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>play fantasy game where LITERAL Gods and magic exists >there

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>play fantasy game where LITERAL Gods and magic exists
>there are still some atheist characters running around
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>>390046861
was this supposed to be an example of said atheist? hating the gods is not the same thing as not believing they exist
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>>390046861
that character isn't an atheist though
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>>390046974
This. Obviously.
If she hates god then she must believe they exist.
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>>390046861
>claims to be a literal god
>can die or be subjected to any sort of events

I'd be skeptical too, I'd just call them very powerful beings, not gods.
To me God has to be omnipotent.
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>>390046861

>be me
>live in a world where gods and magic don't exist
>there are still religious characters running around
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>>390046965
>>390046974
If you redditors actually played the game you would know the rest of her dialogue. Now, shoo. Begone faggot casuals.
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>>390047157
>unironically plays Reddit Scrolls
>calls others redditors
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>>390047101
this
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He's right tho. Gods are a bunch of fucking faggots
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i don't see why he would have to stop hating gods just because they exist

i hate ann-marie at work and she also exists
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>>390047217
>he
Oh the wonders of Oblivion.
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>>390046861
Bad example. That character doesn't believe in the Aedra, which is understandable since they don't often interact with mortals outside of Events. Daedra lords however...
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>>390047293
I'd be upset about gods if I looked like that as well
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>>390047193
>Reddit Scrolls

Ohhh that rolls off the tongue good. Im gonna use that from now on.
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>>390046861
The Aedra are practically dead, anon. And the Daedra aren't quite gods; they're more like high level demons who more often than not are massive bellends.

True divinity implies some hand in the world and it's creation; something the daedra lack - the aedra however laid it's foundations.
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>>390047428
thanks. I spent days working on that one
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>>390046861
An actual example is Sakuya from Touhou, who says she doesn't believe in gods despite the fact they're at every goddamn corner
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FUCK YOU MARISHA RAY
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>>390046861
>live in a world where gods and magic CLEARLY not exist
>still believe in them

really makes you think
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>>390047504
weeb faggotry and its shit writing needs not apply
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>>390047157
>guise i am hardcore oblivion player lol xd
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One of my favorite little D&D gems.
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>>390047157
She could have an argument with her whole "when you go to the Daedra, you directly talk to them and they give you shit, but with the Aedra you never actually know what's going on" thing.

In a world with normal enchantments that can be applied to rocks (Welkynd Stones, the Fingers of the Mountain quest, any floating rocks in Ayleid ruins, etc.), it is plausible that the 9 Divines are bullshit and priests just enchant stones to give people "blessings".

This is obviously BTFO by Knights of the Nine, but normal people aren't going on ancient pilgrimages too often. From her perspective, you can see how she came to that conclusion.
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>>390047504
>Reading the dialogue in touhou games
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>>390047447
They're both pretty much the same shit my man, they're all just from before lorkhan tricked some of the deity races (name escapes me which is shameful) into making Nirn and becoming aedra after ''''dying''''
Also elves and humans are the descendants of the races that stayed on nirn (whereas Magnus and some noped the fuck out leaving the hole which is the sun and distant stars, upon seeing what making nirn would do to them)
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>All the gods are hateful warmongering assholes
>Except that one
>And maybe that other one
>Cult hates all gods and wants them either killed or removed from the world
>This is somehow unreasonable
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>>390047157
>types like a redditor
go back to lurking
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>>390047157
She's a Daedra worshipper you fucking idiot. Iirc, she's even a member of the Mythic Dawn.
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>Play game where gods exist
>They just watch as the world burns down around them and do nothing to support mortals

I'd be a god hater too if I lived in Tamriel to be honest.
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>>390048091
>Live in cyrodiil 3E
>He/She doesn't worship Talos
?????????
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>>390047157
But nothing gets more casual than bethesda shit.
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>>390048475
>Talos
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>>390047157
:( downboat for you
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>>390048475
Never said I'd be an imperial. There are nine divines son and Zenithar is the best one
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>>390048679
But the Thalmor do think he's a god, which is why they're hell bent on him not being worshiped, because theyre massively butthurt their tower and chance at getting back to their former glory got BTFO, and some human(s) have managed to do that (and more)
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>>390048797
I wonder who's behind this post
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>play fantasy game where LITERAL Gods and magic exists
>there are still some atheist characters running around
>there is a god of atheism
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>>390046861
She's closer to a satanist than an atheist.
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>>390046861
I don't even know this character yet I know precisely his voice and how he talks. Oblivion is a mess.
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>>390049120
>The god looks like hitchens and goes on expository rants about the failings of the other gods, clearly being a voice piece for the mentally stunted developer.
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>Bishop in NWN2, where there are tons of gods and clerics that interact with them
>becomes atheist, even though rangers need to have a god to get their magic, game lets him cast his divine magic anyway because why not
>dies, gets punished by god for not being a theist
>why, why you trying to faze me like this, bro?

NPCs should have to play by the same rules PCs do
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Don't go ANYWHERE near Nehrim or Enderal.
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Atheim in fantasy obviously isn't the same as real-life atheism. In fantasy fiction it is the rejection of the gods and what they represent rather than some statement about their existence. There's a difference between believing in the existence of a God and putting your faith in it.
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She does have a point, OP. You are involved in your quest and have actual contact with Aedra influence, but for the common folk, their altars are just potions in a barrel.

Unlike Daedras, that talk to you if you offer something, the Nine divines can easily be mistaken as a myth by a normal person.
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>>390046974
/thread
>>390047157
>bethesda game
>oblivion of all fucking choices
>not causal
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>>390049412

you underestimate the power of the fedora
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>>390049685

But the Nine occasionally have avatars walking around and when Else says "all the gods" that means verifiable real ones like the Tribunal as well.
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>>390049958
The Tribunal are false gods though. Immensely powerful sure, but not divine. Only the Aedra had a hand in the creation of the world and have a proper claim to that; the Tribunal are simply immensely powerful beings who stole their power from an (arguably) divine item. They're dead and gone by now; Sotha Sil was even dead before the Heart was destroyed.
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>>390046861
we are all living in a reality where LITERAL gods do not exist
and yet there are millions of people ready to die for them and live their lives based on their "teachings"
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>>390049958

>Tribunal
>gods

They were common folk that used magic to get imortal, they're not gods in the way of the nine or the Daedra. They don't have their own dimension, they don't dominate or represent something, they are only immortal people. They even lost their imortality later on.
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WHY
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>>390050750
WONT
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>>390050825
YOU
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>>390050864
DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>390047428
Yep. We have a winner boys. Reddit scrolls it is.
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>>390050943
atta boy boys, we gonna make it bra
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>>390050916
I HAVE SEEN MUBCRABS MORE FEARSOME THAN YOU
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>>390046861
Well the Aedra fucked themselves when they were tricked into pouring their power in the creation of Nirn, so they are dying and don't even interact anymore.
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>>390047157
>play game where people of divine power are dickheads
>be surprised that people don't worship them
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>>390046861
I really don't blame her. Aren't like 99% of the gods in elder scrolls absolute dicks
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She isn't an athiest you dingleberry, an athiest is someone who doesn't believe in deities, hating something requires belief, wouldn't you think?
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>>390047193
>>390047428
>>390047193
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>>390046861
>>there are still some atheist characters running around
Gods have as much influence as you want them to have.
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Daily reminder that Tiber Septim murdered his liege in a naked power grab and that he was only able to conquer Tamriel with the aid of the Numidium, a profane automaton powered by the life force of the vizier who ascended him to imperial rulership, who he also murdered in cold blood. Talos is a god of traitors and schemers.
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>>390048679
Around elves, watch yourselves
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>>390052378
Was it him or Uriel that fucked the kid and made her coat hanger it?
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>>390052378
Talos did nothing wrong, the Elves deserved it for being pricks.
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>>390046861
There are athiests in Dungeons in Dragons, of all things.

Bad things happen to them after death.
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>>390052846
Tiber ofc my man, that was also queen of Morrowind
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>>390054124
I don't really get that. The only reason I don't believe is because we have no contact with any sort of divine. If god was doing cool shit all the time I'd have no problem giving him my sunday mornings.
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>>390046861
she's a dumb antifa cultist, what do you expect
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>>390046861
>be irl where LITERAL NO Gods and NO Magic exist
>there are still some theist people running around
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>>390050545
>>390050671
No, the Tribunal had access to the Heart of Lorkhan, that was their divine spark, they were Gods, at least as gods go in TES, until they weren't
And Vivec himself is a different much more debatable story
Elves were dietys once
Humans too
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>>390054628
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>>390054628
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>>390054628
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>>390046861
Yeah, I never got this. If I knew there were actual Gods I would be burning people at the stake for lack of faith
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>>390056926
Why? If there were actual gods they could do it themselves.
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>>390046861
How stupid are you OP? Atheist doesn't mean you hate god it means you don't believe in their existence. This guy obviously believes in their existence but dislikes them for whatever reason.
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>>390058313
Read the thread, apparently you are wrong for some reason
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>>390046861
She said she hates gods, not that she doesn't believe in them.
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>>390046861
She didn't say she didn't believe in gods, just that she hates them.
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>>390058482
>>390058884
two retards or, same poster reformatting their insight?
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>>390059441
Nah, must be a common sentiment.
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>>390059559
fair enough, some sort of synchronicity. my bad, my bad
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>>390046861
hating gods count as worship.

>How I know

Hatred is the polar opposite of love, hatred polarizes into love, which is then transformed into worship towards a deity.

Deities that are fueled by hatred can't be loved of course, so the love polarizes into hatred instead.
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>>390059804
wow really makes u think...
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