QUIET, BROOD WAR'S ON

>>390032781
I don't like star craft.

>>390032781
I like star craft.

>>390032917
I see why you like star craft but I prefer games like RA2 and such.

>>390032969
I like both red alert and starcraft, so I'd be happy to watch either.

I'd probably watch command and conquer if it was played at a professional level.

>>390033048
I don't think CC lends itself to competetive play anywhere near as well as starcraft does. But know what I like it, it's just a nice simple casual game where you get into and turtle. Really chill.
What did you think of Wargames though? For me it was the first truly interesting RTS that's not a battle simulator like graviteam

>played wc3 for the first time in like five years today
>only able to do like 10% of what I used to

Holy heck I got bad.

>>390033217
>play siege
>git insanely gud and rek everything in a few months
>take half a year break
>come back play like copper

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>>390033217
>watch starcraft pros do cool tactical plays
>attempt anything they do against opponent online
>fail miserably at it to the point where my opponent doesn't actually really know what I'm attempting to do

Well fuck
Guess i should go back to practicing mechanics first before trying tactics

>not neet anymore
>this shit is on at 5am and I have class in 3 hours
fugg. what happened in the previous matches?

>>390032781
did you make these pictures yourself? I like the doodle in the top-right.

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>>390033487
lol cheers, I'm a drawfag for work

>>390033460
forget class, korea time is far more important

Shit, what is wrong with effort's hair? The guy looks like gohan from the namek saga

>>390033460
Shit still at the beginning
Last match yesterday was pretty good, Last got a huge lead early on but Stork managed to overcome it with sheer protoss awesomeness

is tasteless greek now?

>>390032781
Thanks for always making these threads

wtf last is already out?

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>>390033773
maybe. I always thought day 9 looked like a greek cherub, so maybe there's some greek in the plott brothers

>>390033898
Watch the game vs stork, it was awesome

>>390032781
OP you should check out with the
www dot twitch dot tv/afreecasuccdeeca guy if he intends to stream always. Then you could add it to the OP incase for people who can't run afreeca

>>390033898
He won't be the last one standing this time

>>390033898
Yup, he got fucking STORKED last round.

Stork will go on to win the tournament or on my granny's grave I will go to korea and streak the grand finals

eff0rt is going all out with the alien look today

>>390034029
do eet

>>390033979
Is he going to continue restreaming it on twitch? If he doesn't get shut down I'll definitely add it in, I'd much rather watch this on twitch.

>what kind of hair you want myfam?

oh this is remaster? its not very nice looking, but its still much cleaner than SC2.

>>390034138
rude!

>tastosis confirmed for gay threesomes after casting

>>390034138
Yes, although both players are playing with the old graphics

>>390034187
he's not wrong though, some of the units look over-animated and they really shat the ball with the Toss Potraits

>>390034297
death animations are garbage as well

Lazy pls

what games do I watch from the first 2 days?

>>390034523
Last one from yesterday

>>390034486
Lazy too Lazy
these fucking matchups
>Lazy vs Effort
>Mind vs Rush

>>390034523
Last v Stork

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Which players still stream with the original graphics and english voices?

>sea kicked out because of fake news
wtf korea

god i hate these commercials

>>390034709
Yeah they're fucking awful.

>watching e-''sports'' in 2017

>>390034709
yea I'd rather have Titty Sambo or Chicken Wing commercials
>>390034771
>wasting his time to post something he could ignore

Who's favored to win this TvT?

Anyone know the song they play in the begining of the match?

tfw still no tvt bo

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>>390034858
probably mind, he's the more seasoned tournament player

>>390034830
man, those chicken wing commercials were fucking godtier. Nothing has ever made me want chicken at 3am so bad before. Bring them back.

>>390034858
Blue terrans are Raynor's boys

>>390035051
>the thinking man wins against the brute

Tastosis laugh is a treasure.

>>390035167
Tastosis is the best casting duo in the history esports.

Nice hold by Rush

>doom drops

>>390035454
also a sweet fucking ambush on that dropship convoy, that might have decided the game

The hare beat the turtoise

RIP brainlet

rush looked really good at defense

>name yourself Mind
>get called the Brain Terran
>double embarrassment whenever your opponent just outsmarts you

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>mfw rush doesn't look like korean tidus anymore


I miss his orange hair from last season.

how do you decide when to stop making wraiths for dropships, their goliath count?

I love today's tastetosis banter

man that flank was rough

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>Effort had one job
>Rush doesn't use his brain

LURKERS

HOLD!

HOOOOLD!

HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLD!

Holy shit Effort is good with lurkers.

Is effort going to win this season?

>>390036717
it was more moving out without detection

i hlod lurker

Effort rused his way to victory with hold lurkers. Shame that won't work against Flash but I wasn't expecting him to get out of the group without so much of a fight

>>390036719
we all know flash is going to take it

Seeing Zerg dismantle Terran is the most satisfying thing

zero effort

>>390036717
how bad can Rush be falling for the same trick twice

>>390036839
watching a protoss aoe kill hydras is the most satisfying

Nice broken ass bugs that should have been patch, is friendly hold mines legal too? If not then why the fuck zerg and protoss allow to abuse game breaking glitches.

>>390036903
I don't know, watching a protoss pop hydras and tanks with storms are equally satisfying to me.

Perfect reaver pops in the middle of an SCV line are also an honourable mention.

>>390036717
Cheap broke tactics = good

>>390037101
hold lurkers are such an old tactic that calling them a bug is stupid. they're part of the game the same as the other bugs, like Muta stacking and probe shenanigans.

Someone explain what hold lurkers are

>>390037398
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Hold_Lurker

>>390037398
if you group lurkers with an overlord and hit hold position they wont attack enemy units when they come in to range

you can let enemy units walk over the lurkers and deal better splash damage this way

cc this early seems so dangerous to me id die to early pressure

>>390037256
Why is friendly mines hold still illegal then? Turns out undetectable death traps are broke as fuck.

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>>390037101
>cheap
>moves out without scans
>despite knowing the enemy has lurkers

>>390037398
you lay a trap of hidden lurkers. let terran walk over you, then spine them to death and they can't escape.

>>390037487
Can't you detect them with uhh detection?

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>carriers

>CARRIERS
AY LMAO

gook

>carriers
lo

>>390037604
ANSWER THE FUCKING QUESTION WHY IS HOLD MINES STILL ILLEGAL

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lmao 2 base!
lmao 2 base!

can lurkers detect units

>>390037685
>Holding position =/= ALLYING THE ENEMY

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>>390037685
Because you can't do it just by issuing orders?

>>390037792
Hold lurkers Is not a natural order either

>>390037776
Using a bug, is just as legit huh

>Le carrier running around for nothing man

0-0-1 vs 2-3

It was gg long before this push.

that gg timing

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>Final match is a TvT on fighting spirit

we in for the long haul boys, better piss now

Terran is so lame
>see enemies coming at you
>press e
>win

>>390038431
why is it so pleasing to see the happy Neanderthal face

>>390038448

Mech is also slow as fuck, so if you do counter drops with dts or reavers he has to either have good cover or split up the army.

>>390038537
1-2 siege tanks with a few mines and missle turret will repel any harass drop.

>too hard to type with one hand
what did he mean by this

These colors are so hard to tell apart right now.

>>390039042
His other hand is broken.

Do we even have moderators anymore?

Anyone got twitch-vods?
ASL isn't working. ;_;

>>390039165
>His other hand is broken.
Oh. Also what does koreatime think: Should BW casts display food/supply?

http://www.strawpoll.me/13914732

>>390039313
2nd most watched BW stream on twitch brosu

>>390039313
they upload it to youtube afterwards

>>390039340
I think they should give us their fog of war view sometimes.

I like these TvT games with tank lines. Its fun to see them fighting for map control in a whole other way than the other matchups

http://play.afreecatv.com/aslenglish2
alt stream, no tastosis

How come they dont spam Ghost Lockdown?

Battlecruisers when

>>390039830
cause youd need the covert ops
and barracks
and cloak
and lockdown
and ghosts

>>390039830
I'm guessing it's because it's not worth it with the micro it requires plus the gas for research and ghosts.

TvT is the most difficult match up in all of starcraft. I get a brain fart so early in this match, I just don't know what to do once the Mexican stand off begins.

How long has this been going on holy shit I love it

fucking hell is TvT is going to mine out the map

I haven't seen a trrech warfare this good in a while

>>390040102
Endgame ZvZ is harder

>>390039923
its been used successfully before and there might be room for it to succeed again but yeah its very costly for a niche

>>390040252
trench warfare thats gonna end in BC's


also anons gotta say im not minding this remaster. it has problems but id say its mostly beneficial

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>>390040286
>endgame ZvZ

>brown vs orange
can't see shit

>>390040286
Doesn't exist in modern Era

will they even have the economy left for BC warfare

>>390040373
We had one last season and it was amazing.

>>390040508
>last season
>shine chokes like a bitch
it hurts to live

Aah the old "shit I have to go to the toilet lets just drop in the middle of his base and end this one way or the other" play.

Holy fuck, Rush's lightning siege-up in Mind's base was god tier, that might have been the play of the game

>>390040508
I know, but the chance to see a ZvZ endgame is usually so minuscule its ridiculous

>>390040541
Well it's not really choking when Flash's fundamentals are so solid you can genuinely surprise him and he'll damage control into a decisive advantage.

>>390040508
which one was that again? what round #?

ydont they type show me the money

>Hail Mary BCs
sheeet

why can't chinks make web sites with good design? every line of text is a clickable link what the fuck

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BATTLE

FUCKING


CRUISERS

WE'RE AT THE LAST PUSH NOW

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>tasteless will never unload on you

So are those three mineral patches in the middle the only ones left yet?

>>390041284
12 o clock has a few patches left

>99% of the map mined out
How long has this match been

>80 minutes no rush
TvT is actually good in this game

>>390041332
they are nearly empty
so pretty much neglible
these low Supply counts are more scary

mind's apm has been ~200 for a while now

>>390040678
I want to say 16, either Shine or ggaemo vs Hyun

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>this game

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>Haven't got time to watch live right now
>Mfw reading I've got a long tvt with bcs to look forward to later

uhhhh rush

>dude dropships lmao

good game
>47 minutes

WHAT A THROW!!

I'm salty

...wot

what the fuck where did rush's army go?

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>hail mary BC's WORKED

>>390041463
yeah i missed the first half of the game, the fuck caused the drop ship EXPLOSION?

GEEEGEEEE
E
E
G
E
E
E
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should have gone for the destroy all buildings win condition instead of fucking with the center

>>390041561
BC vaporized them in the middle

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>it's over

>>390041561
BOOM BOOM BANG

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fucking hell.

I can't believe how/long that TvT was. The most entertaining one i've seen in years.

I thought Rush played a little better than Mind, but still, they both did so damn well to keep that up for the length.

Shit.

Alright, I'll catch you guys next sunday to see


JAEDONG, SHARP, MINI, HIYA

>>390041597
I assume he was trying to copy Flash who can do some magic with dropships. Of course even Flash has lost because he went with dropship trickery and some macro faggot just went with battlecruisers.

J DDDDDDDD

Time for bed

Goodnight bros

>>390041674
>he
they both went for 10+ dropships

>>390041674
Rush threw when he gave up mid to save mined out 12 o clock base.

Any of you gents know if these matches are going to be commonplace going forward? I love watching Brood War (Remastered too, obviously), but I'm not a fan of Starcraft 2. Just curious if these will stop once the hype of the remaster dies down.

>>390041664
MONDAY MONDAY MONDAY MONDAY
> MONDAY MONDAY MONDAY
MONDAY MONDAY
> MONDAY
MONDAY MONDAY
> MONDAY
MONDAY FAGGOTS

>>390041821
this is season 4, honestly i have no clue especially with the jewry blizz is pulling with licensing fees

>tasteless will never be your big hairy manly bf

>>390041752
Yeah but Mind didn't remake as many after initial losses.

>>390041664
okay, scrap that, the schedules got changed, I'll see you on monday for

BEST, MONG, AMPLE, RAIN

so when is the next match? tomorrow or next week?

>>390041982
Would make sense that whenever Blizzard accidentally does something good, they'd fuck it up in some way.

>>390041664
They both had a bit of spaghetti but it was really entertaining because it kept seesawing back and forth

I just got here, how do i rewind this dumb afreeca video?

>>390041821
I think these small tournaments will continue as long as you have flash, bisu, and jaedong to draw in crowds. After that I don't know. Also I think the overall skill level drop since 6 years ago as these are more hobbyist players than actual sponsor players now.

>>390041821
ASL started up even before the remaster was even in development, the love for Brood War in korea is strong enough to build tournaments whether it was remastered or not. Whether or not we get an english cast with the huge fees blizzard has imposed, debatable. But we'll find out after this season, at tleast this one will be great.

>>390042061
say ahh
http://vod.afreecatv.com/PLAYER/STATION/25817826

>>390041821
they've been going on for a couple years now man

nobody likes sc2

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>>390034029

>>390042061
http://vod.afreecatv.com/PLAYER/STATION/25817826

here's the link to the vod if anybody missed it. It starts meh but gets insane towards the final match.

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>>390042145
>>390042257
Thanks

>>390042257
>rush running over hold lurkers twice
L M AO

So now that the game is 19 years old, can casters click on shuttles and such and see what units are inside?

>>390041821
Well Afreeca launched the ASL more than a year ago, and it's been making a streaming comeback with high viewership for various popular korean pro-gamers. Guys that have been popular for many years. The audience is there, and I honestly don't think they care too much about the remaster. Blizzard is just bad at manufacturing hype and managing community relations without going full jew, that's why SC2 is dying. Brood War stayed alive without Blizzard's support though, even after they essentially tried to assassinate it. I'm confident koreans will keep playing. Foreign scene is anyone's guess. I hear a lot of interest from old nerds but Blizzard does seem intent on screwing things up the same way they have with the whole Overwatch team buy in debacle.

>>390042452
Overwatch league, already made blizzard 200 million from just buy ins so their greed is going just fine.

Why does everyone prefer SC1 to SC2? I've heard all this post-obvious drivel about how micro intensive Brood War was, as if SC2 has no micro in it. What does SC1 have that SC2 doesn't, and what does SC2 have that it would be better off without?

>>390042742
Sc2 can be just as micro with all the spell casting units it has. Is just the balancing has never been great, good pathing and unlimited hotkey control has made deathball tactics incredibly strong and come back potential almost non-existent. BW battles are just more interesting as big fights require immense control and cover a lot more ground.

>>390042742
Well micro alone, SC2 has deathballs where as SC1 most units refuse to even walk in a straightline without spamming the move key over and over. Also SC2 has bigger control groups where as SC1 terrans and zerg are begging for more control groups because 10 isnt enough for them due to the limited units they are allowed to have in them.

>>390042637
short term sure, but if OW e-sports never get off the ground for real then that's all they get

>>390044231
That's more than the most games will ever get with just sales. Besides their cancerous lootbox system is making them fucking bank .

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>>390042742
Simply put there's a way to play SC2 perfectly, so everyone tries to hit that flawlessly timed push with a perfectly grouped and pathed deathball while hitting every macro step. Whoever gets ahead just tries to let it snowball. It feels like it's more about the player's sheer mastery of the game in executing pre-planned strategies, and less their ability to think on their feet and really outwit their opponent in the moment.

Brood War can't be played perfectly, there's just too much to control and pathing corrections to make. Everyone is always mistakes, trying to decide on what to prioritize. Because of that it's always a battle of minds, trying to catch the other player off balance while keeping your feet on the ground. You can be scrappy and unorthodox and make it work even (especially) at the very highest level and comebacks through sheer improvisation are not uncommon.

>>390044878
I'm sure but it wouldn't compare to the money OW could make in the long term if it becomes a real e-sport. Literally burning billions to make millions.

>>390033968
depending on when his family immigrated to kansas here, he's probably mostly german