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DX:IW isn't THAT bad

>>389992657
DMC2 is a pants game, but it has some really nice animations.

>>389992657
deadspace 3 is a solid coop experience you faggot

invisible war is still a lot better than most modern games

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Here is another game to add

>>389992657
I'm replaying DA2 now and I actually like it, I decided to lower the difficulty because of the endless spamming enemies though.

>>389992657
I really really enjoyed FF2. Fuck you lets fight

>>389992657
I played Invisible War many years ago on the Xbox and I enjoyed it a lot. I never played a game quite like it before, in that it was a first person shooter RPG hybrid. I should give it another try because I only ever hear people talk shit about it. On the other hand, Human Revolution gets quite a bit of praise but I wasn't all that impressed by it. I haven't played Deus Ex 1 or Mankind Divided yet.

Also, I've seen threads that vehemently defend Sticker Star and I really do not understand how. There is so much about that game that is just downright awful.

I've seen people defend DaII

It's total fucking trash, It made me so angry playing it and i sunk like 40 hours into it.

>>389993796
>DMC2 is a pants game, but it has some really nice animations.

and better than DmC

>>389994387
No

>>389992657
Invisible War, Other M, and DMC2 aren't bad games. Mediocre games, yeah, but they only get shit on as much as they do because they don't live up to what cane before them.

I enjoyed DE:IW when I played it back when I was 13

and I dunno, DA2 is a shitty game and not fun to play but I liked what they seemed to be trying for with the story

>>389994259
Man, what was it about this game that sucked? I think it was the level design but I don't know; it just didn't have the same charm. I played the original soon after and then I settled on the fact that the sequel was just bad, but I couldn't quite nail down why.

>>389992657
I also enjoyed many playthroughs of Human Revolution. However that being said it was the first Deus Ex game I owned and I like the first one way better and have played the first one way more

>>389992657
Final Fantasy II >>>>> Final Fantasy VI

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>>389994432
Yes

>>389994434
Other M was downright shit

>>389994387
That's debatable. I'd still say that DmC is better but not by much.

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As someone with 3 playthroughs of DA2 and whom is a Bioware fanboy? I can absolutely confirm that DA2 is one of the worst games in human history

DA2 wasn't the spawn of Satan that everyone makes it out to be. Yes, it was a step back in almost every way from DAO, but it still wasn't a bad game.

>>389992657
I can totally see some people claiming to having had fun with Assault Horizon or Dead Space 3.
I can also see people claiming the same with Other M out of sheer contrarianism.

Also, you should probably add No Man's Sky at this point. It has earned it's place.

>>389992657
Invisible war had a good main story. Dead Space 3's dlc was good. Dragon Age 2 had a good story that was marketed poorly.

>>389994549
You can post your shitty meme image all you want. Most of that is opinion and the rest is not enough to make it a bad game. It's mediocre.

>>389994710
>but it still wasn't a bad game.

Yes. Yes it was a bad game. If you don't think DA2 was a bad game than I'd like to hear what you think a bad game is because your standards are perhaps the lowest of any person I've ever met.

>>389994807
just because it proves you wrong doesn't make it a meme image

>>389994710
I tried to give it another shot a few months ago, having beaten it on release. Gave up on that tedious shit after the prologue. It's bad, desu. Weep for its wasted potential if you must, but let's not deny the obvious.

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Hey, I remember this thread from last time!

It was a good thread with lots of defending, but the only game that literally nobody defended was Assault Horizon. It's like the Xbox One of hated games. At this point I want to see a single person that liked it just to prove those people exist.

>>389992657
DA2 > DAI

>>389995342
Soundtrack was alright. But every other AC soundtrack was better. Meaning it is irredeemable trash.

>>389992657
Battleborn and dawn of war 3 arent up there

Also plenty of retards defend DA2. I dont know if theyre trollig or not

I actually defend AC:AH wherever I participate in an ace combat thread. I usually don't becuase those threads usually end up with just being RPing and meme spouting. The last decent one I was in was actually on /k/. It actually tried something new in the rather stale ace combat formula. Now, they didn't do a great job, the helicopter missions in general are fucking terrible, but at least over all it's a playable game that's enjoyable to a degree. It's not the gigantic dogshit that ace fags say it is either.

Acefags like to scream "muh strage real". Strage real was never a real thing until ac5, and AH wasn't the first, nor the last, to do it's own shit outside of stragereal either.

Of course, this is coming from someone who actually likes 2, 3, and 4 more than the so called "holy trinity" of 4, 5 and 0.

>>389994463
play it again with the sound on

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>>389995342
I'll be that faggot.

Assault Horizon was alright. Every other game in the AC franchise is better, but it wasn't as bad as people make it out to be. Sure, the plot is a cheap Tom Clancy wannabe novel, but the plots of normal ACs are just as bad being poor Gundam plots to begin with, and in some cases more retarded (Inb4 Dance with the Angels)

Specially compared to the other true flight game garbage that is out there like pic related.

Love DAO to death
Played through Inquisition (non DLC) recently and just felt super exhausted from that specific formula, although I felt like it was a complete different experuence than what I had with Origins
Is DA2 even worth playing?

why is DMC2 so hated? is it just bad compared to the others or what?

>>389996383
The plot is the least of AH's problems

>>389996464
It's just all around a downgrade compared to 1. Weak levels, lame combat, lame characters, etc.

>>389996443
Imagine Inquisition but worse

>>389992657
>Dragon Age 2
>Final Fantasy 2
Why?

>>389996464
Everything is a downgrade along with it being piss easy.

>>389996472
Gameplay was the least of their concerns. that shit was just as tight as it was with your average AC, just with rock instead of the usual soundtrack cause "Muh COD" was the meme of choice at the time.

Unless you're one of those people that think the destruction engine and the Assault circle were bad additions, which baffles me since you didn't have to interact with them in the least.

>>389995739
>Also plenty of retards defend DA2. I dont know if theyre trollig or not
I will genuinely defend DA2 only for its combat. The combat in DA2 is a massive improvement over DAO, particularly regarding the time between activating an ability and having it actually fire off.
All the god damn time in DAO I'd hit an ability and awkwardly dance around my enemy for 3 seconds, then finally when its about to activate the enemy is already dead from ranged dps.
Also the AI customization is improved a fair bit too, with more trigger options, more targets, and more actions.

In every other aspect, DA2 was a travesty. But the combat was good.

>>389996443
Well it's much better than Inquisition that's for sure

>>389994463
You heard it was bad before you played and have developed preconceived notions of it being bad. When you actually played it you became confused because you liked it.

>>389995342
I had fun with it, but I've literally never played an ace combat game before. Going into dogfight mode seemed hype as fuck and let cool things happen on the screen while you focused on fucking a dude up, meaning you'd get a cool stupidly-low-to-the-ground chase while fucking dudes up.

It's main problem was that dogfight mode was clearly the main way of fucking people up, so launching missiles or shooting otherwise was pretty pointless.

>>389992657
I really want to play Other M because I love that Samus design.

>>389996749
>actually prefering korean mmo combat over crpg

I'll stand for sticker start, I'd so much fun playing this game, it made my 2 hours daily commute a lot easier.

>>389996443
DA2 was so bad it had it's future expansion cancelled and merged with DAI.

>>389992657
I love FF II, at least the PS1 and PSP versions.

>>389996472
If you're going to say DFM, outside of a few set pieces, it's not required. It's a little hard to play the game without it on higher difficulty, but it's still doable.

Now, other games have gimmick set pieces as well. Some are skill based, like tunnel runs or altitude limits, but some are pretty dumb as well like boss fights in 3 or 0. Or just gimick mechanics in general like the whole screen kill in 6.

>>389993994
kunkka did lol drawings?

doesnt really fit with his style, look at that ridiculous big head mummy

>>389996539
>>389996758
/v/ please

>>389996875
lmao i kinda want to see the trainwreck for myself

>>389992657
I WILL DEFEND FINAL FANTASY II FROM ALL THE PARROTING IGNORANTS AND MORONS WITHOUT GOOD CRITERIA UNTIL THE END OF TIMES.
Now seriously, although the character progression was flawed, it was a nice try and if it was based in time and money management for studying/ practicing, instead of hitting yourself, maybe now JRPGs in particular and RPGs in general would have ditched the AWFUL XP system for the far superior realistic one.
And character progression aside, it's a great JRPG for its time and the first quintessential FF: the first one with chocobos, Cid, ultima, an evil empire with an even more evil dark power behind being fought by rebels, the first dragoon etc.

>>389992657

I'll defend Other M honestly

I think its not a bad game at all

>>389992657
I'll always say that despite fucking up the story and intrigue from the previous games, Dead Space 3 is still a decent game.

The weapon customisation I always thought was amazing, also it at the very least attempted to make co-op feel like its part of the game unlike RE5 where it didin't add anything.

>>389997332
Okay. Mind elaborating?

>>389992657
Final Fantasy 2 gets way too much hate, the skill and stat upgrading systems work fine and the game gives you lots of opportunities to mess with the mechanics
if you spend some time grinding intelligently you can literally walk to the last town in the game and get great spells and equipment
FF2 is definitely better than FF4 (the most boring "rpg" I've ever played in my life) and FF13 (somehow even worse than FF4)

deus ex invisible war also gets too much hate
yes it's not as good as deus ex but it's still a pretty good game that gives you choices on how to deal with problems
i'm not sure how it still has so many haters these days because it's a million times better when it comes to player freedom than most modern games

>>389992657
fuck you I loved FFII

>>389997183
Both DA2 and DAI sucked. Maybe one did something better than the other in some places but in the end they were both shit

>>389993994
there are more people on /v/ who like LoL than there are people who like DOTA 2
even if you excuse the fact that league is a much better game, it's so much more popular that it obviously has more fans here
the only reason it never has threads is because of extremely angry dotards who get defensive whenever any other game in the same genre has threads on /v/. they will go out of their way to do anything they can to shitpost and ensure the thread gets deleted because their autism makes them incapable of accepting that some people like another game more than their favorite game.
everyone gave up on making league threads here and moved to /vg/

>>389995153
It doesn't prove anything. As I said it's largely opinion and had very little facts.
>soundtrack is bland/bad
Opinion.
>environments are ugly
Opinion.
>mechanics are imprecise and unwieldy
Opinion.
>world is unimaginative and dull
Opinion.
>combat is clumsy
Wrong.
>and dull
Opinion.
>queen boss doesn't hint at using power bomb
Wrong.
>Phantoon fight is bad
Wrong.

The only thing it's correct about is the linearity and authorization bullshit.

FF2 isn't a bad game. Broken as fuck, yes, but not bad.

>>389998068
>>mechanics are imprecise and unwieldy
>Opinion.

wrong

>queen boss doesn't hint at using power bomb
>Wrong.
dead wrong

>>389998060
All MOBAs are shit
I'd rather have everybody trying to copy OW/PUBG like they are now than everyone trying to make a MOBA clone like years ago.

>>389992657
Other M is actually a good game, just not a good 'metroid' game.

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>>389996791
>Heh you don't actually have this other opinion. You just tricked yourself into having it *tips*

Anon I have some bad news for you......

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GOLDEN
SUN
3

TRY TO DEFEND IT /v/ I DARE YOU

>>389998593
TWO

SCOOPS

>>389992657
Dead Space 3 wasn't that bad. I thought it was pretty interesting actually I just don't like coop

>>389998457
I played Other M.

It wasn't even a good gae

>>389997328
FF2 was fun for me just because of how broken you could make the characters. By the end of the game literally nothing could hit my physical fighter except I think the final boss and magic barely did anything to her unless it was like a Level 16 Flare or something.

I like how >>389997332 never responded to >>389997525.

Seems when Other M "fans" get called out to defend the bad game, they run away like cowards

>>389998301
There's nothing imprecise about the game. If you had trouble it was user error on your part. Sad too because it's such a pathetically easy game.

>>389992657
Dragon Age 2 had a better web of choice and consequence than the other DA games. Its short playtime lends itself well to replaying the game to find out new stuff, like Varric getting sad about your sister dying.

>>389998619
It's trash and you made me sad by reminding me that it exists.

Ace Combat Assault Horizon is alright if you forget it's a Ace combat game.

Also the soundtrack was pretty good

>>389999049
>If you had trouble it was user error on your part

the controls were poorly designed

>>389998619
Music was nice

>>389999180
They weren't ideal but they were in no way unwieldy or precise. The biggest issue was sideways wiimote simply isn't comfortable to hold.

>>389999043
It's just Dobson shitposting.

>>389994434
I dunno about this, anon. DMC2 has pretty broken AI. I enjoyed it as a kid, and I love Dante's design plus the music, so maybe you're right in that it balances out into being "mediocre," but that gameplay is pretty far down in the dumps.

>>389999323
>It's just Dobson shitposting.

figured as much since no one in their right mind would defend Other M

>>389992657
>>389992657
Dead Spoace 3 wasn't terrible, it just wasn't good. It was alright with a coop buddy because it was designed around coop for some dumb reason.

>>389999554
Is this the new xv-kun scapegoat? You have zero arguments so better blame whatever faggot is convenient.

>>389999554
>>389999323
more likely ACFag

>>389992657
DMC2 is better than DmC
Other M isn't actually bad it's a mass concentration of butthurt primefags being obnoxious and samefagging like their lives depend on it.

>>389994549
>stock mad primefag image

fuck off get gassed, get perma global banned from the site you goddamned disease.

>>389999043
Oh you mean just like...
>primefag gets called out on shitfest fps halo clone
>meme posts with nuh uh and no you and meme cherry picker pasta pictures and youtube links

Really not helping your case.

>>389999651
>Is this the new xv-kun scapegoat? You have zero arguments so better blame whatever faggot is convenient.
to be fair, he and Movebob both whiteknighed the fuck out of that shitty game.

Everyone was either Neutral or Negative towards Other M. Those fucks chose to defend Other M to look different.

and the arguments against Other M are in >>389994549 and it doesn't even include the abomination known as the story cutscenes you CAN NOT SKIP

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>let's take this subtle, clever, extremely atmospheric and mature horror series and turn it into a dumb cartoony co-op dungeon crawler
>should we at least make it a passable dungeon crawler on it's own merit?
>fuck no

Ninja Gaiden 3 Razor Edge.

Faggots on /v/ assume the game is bad.

>>389992657
I like Dead Space 3 up until Tau Volantis.

>>389999815
DMC2 is absolutely not better than DmC, and I fucking HATE DmC. Judging each game purely by it's individual quality of design DmC is far more competent and if it had regular Dante nobody would disagree.

drakengard 2 and stalker clear sky fit right in

ff2 wasn't bad at all just weird

>>389999651
ACfag/Dobson/MovieBlob is code for I HAVE NO ARGUMENT AND GIVE UP PLEASE FUCK MY FACE

XV-Kun for FF15 and Marketer-kun for RE7 are both legitimate shitposting shills though.

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>>389999815
>DMC2 is better than DmC

>>390000143
>>390000172
Tameem samefagging

frog fantasy 2 isn't bad on the gba

>>390000027
Fuck off Dobson, your shitposting sucks ass.

>>389992657

I like Dead Space 3.

It has great environments, and some awesome set pieces. The DLC is also has the best spooks in entire series.

>>389999815
>DMC2 is better than DmC
I have a feeling people spouting this shit haven't even bothered with the game and just say this because it's still part of the original series. Look, I hate DmC's existence as much as the next guy, but this is objectively and factually wrong when DMC2 has the inclusion of motherfucking water levels, as well as flying bosses that only allow you to wittle multiple health bars down with only your guns.

>>390000274
DmC is still a pile of irredeemable dogshit but purely judged as an independent game it is far, far better than DMC2.

>>390000382
thank you for proving this anon right.
>>390000157

>>389998323
I don't mind them game play wise. It's usually the community that makes me not enjoy them

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fucking british cunt

>>390000428
>>390000437
DMC2 added to the series and introduced mechanics that are still used in 3 and 4.

DmC did nothing but take things away as well as serve as a political statement for an egotistical faggot who thinks he's an artist.

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>>390000027
>>390000157
Tonight on Unsolved Mysteries, virgins defend a garbage game and shit all over a really good one. But why? And what if the two virgins are one in the same.....

>>389992657

>2017
>still thinks ff ii is bad

The nes version can eat a dick, just stick to the remakes, its flawed yes, but is it fully bad? not really

>>389998323
>>390000550
MOBA as a genre is inherently fucking awful
>spend 70% of each 30 minute match doing absolutely mindless grinding

>>390000157
>ACfag/Dobson/MovieBlob is code for I HAVE NO ARGUMENT AND GIVE UP PLEASE FUCK MY FACE

they are legimate shitposters and their fanboys love to parrot their shitty opinions

>>390000629
>DmC did nothing but take things away as well as serve as a political statement for an egotistical faggot who thinks he's an artist.

and add shitty wubstep

>>390000491
>calls Prime a fps halo clone
>gets called a shitposter for obvious bait
>plays the primefags are bad card
You're not even trying Dobson, kys.

>>389992795
i agree, its pretty decent. the loading times are a pain in the ass though

>>390000629
You are proving me right. I keep saying that judging each game independently in a total vacuum, DmC is better. DMC 3 and 4 using things from DMC 2 well means absolutely nothing to the quality of DMC 2.

>>390000629
In the end, DmC is still the better product compared to 2

Dead space 3 actually had nice exploration and I did enjoy the side missions that weren't locked behind coop. But yeah the story and writing in general was shit

>>390000683
2 is without a doubt the only objectively bad FF game ever made. Say what you want about the holy trinity of bad FFs being 2, 8, and 15 but only 2 is legitimately bad to the point of being nearly unplayable.

>>390000823
Wasted.

>>390000721
>they are legimate shitposters and their fanboys love to parrot their shitty opinions

You just described the same 5 primefags that have daily circlejerks.

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>>390000157
ACfag is really easy to identify though
And I still haven't seen anyone use him as a scapegoat

>people defend DmC
>people defend FF2

I share a board with these mental midgets...

>>390000793
>I keep saying that judging each game independently in a total vacuum

except DmC carries the DMC name meaning that they are right in judging DmC against the rest of the series. The devs also said in pre-release interviews that it would be on par with the main series (turned out to be a load of shit)

>>389998619
good graphics

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>>389992657
dead space 3 still had excellent sound design

DMC2 has the best outfit for Dante ever.
Also that boss who was supposed to be a rival to Sparda was badass.
I like the music for when the Demon Helicopter is chasing you too.