Wargame: Red Sale on Steam

Can also anyone give me tips on this game, since it looks like there's an Everest-high learning curve?

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>>389971893
If you have /k/ommon-sense the game shouldn't be too hard. You have to learn the meta units however.

>>389973113
I think I lack /k/ommon sense, as in every rts I'lltry to attain air superiority by darkening the sky with my aircrafts, but here I can't for obvious reasons.

What I'm having a lot of problems with right now is finding a way to open up the match, I don't know which units to take and which to not, well except recon, I never begin a match without at least a recon squad

>>389971662
>Why isn't this game more popular?
Because nobody knows how to fucking play it.

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>>389973571
But by bearly playing 10 hours I improved from a lot, and I'm not even that skilled with vidya

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tips :
1. use a lot of recon (at least with very good optics)
2. having a lot of anti-air in forward positions is important (especially if you want to push and survive panic-bombers)
3. use infantry in forests and towns
4. don't leave towns undefended (they're basically fortresses)
5. don't play 10v10s
6. keep your units in cover
7. buy cheap defenses for your CVs
8. don't use helo CVs
9. usually, always get the high-end version of a unit unless it's infantry or a tank
10. move forward your mortars and MLRSs so they have a tighter radius
11. don't pair up your choppers or else they'll take more damage

>>389973441
Infantry are your bread and butter units in forests and cities. Tanks are your main units everywhere else.

Your tanks are only as strong as how well they're supported. They need recon to see enemies to shoot at (at least very good optics). They need anti-air to survive against ATGM helos and ATGM planes (hard-counters of tanks).

Ground ATGM units are useful at their max-range and to defend towns. MANPADS are good in cheeky forward positions like towns or hidden behind a mountain peak.

If you need to push, have A LOT of AA ready in forward positions and cheap recon to support your push. Get some ASFs hovering near the front line. Try to panic enemy positions by using MLRSs first. Don't send all your troops at once. Send cheap units like infantry and low-cost tanks to begin the assault and have your main units cover them from a safe position. Once you have a foot-hold, send your main force.

Attack helicopters are best used as defensive rapid-response units. You can also rush the enemy base with them if you're a fag.

If you want to get to good positions first at the beginning of the game, pick a coalition with a good AA helo and do a helo drop at the middle of the map (preferably on a town).

>>389971662
>Why isn't this game more popular?
contrary to popular belief, you don't draw in newcommers by complex competetive MP, but by good story-based SP. Longer you can keep them entertained with SP, better chance they will try MP. And if campaign or/and tutorial can teach them enough to not get smashed by meta fast enough to not learn a thing, then you have a winrar.

>>389974997
I see that the SP campaign is not exactly a strong point of the game, being simply revisiting, albeit with some simplifications the various wars at the end of the last century.
The tutorial, oh God almighty, it's an abomination.
I read it for the sake of certainty, but it doesn't give you even the roughest idea of how to behave in game.

>>389971662
>TFW I couldn't get into Wargame
I tried so hard to like it but I just couldn't, whether I played 10vs10, 2vs2 or even 1vs1. I think I'm too stupid to play anything this complex, just went back to playing Company of Heroes.

>>389974798
Thanks m8, really appreciate the help

more tips :
12. turn-off your long-range radar AA unless you see a plane to shoot at
13. you can rely on non-radar AA and ASFs if you can't be bothered to deal with SEAD
14. baby-sit your super-heavies (your most top-end tanks) so they don't die to ATGM planes or get side-shot
15. if you're pushing on open ground, try to smoke off enemy positions or create for yourself a patch of smoke to use it like you would a forest (basically to hide your heavy tanks from ATGM planes)
16. sending a cheap scout with good optics on the flanks nearly always pays off, have it kill high-value targets like arty and CVs or have it spot the enemy air-spawn and units
17. if you're playing destruction, spamming mortars and recon while keeping your main forces away from the front lines is very effective
18. always move your SAMs, arty pieces and atgms after they fire
19. cluster MLRSs are very effective at doing counter-battery
20. learn the meta units

>>389975756
But how exactly do the SEAD work? The missiles auto fire as soon as they're in range and follow any radar-producing signature?

>>389974997

Honestly the game is good with friends, having some people playing by your side, playing alone is too stressful and can make you frustrated as fuck

Complex games are always doomed to certain type of people, just like Chess or Go, many people can say they know how to play, but how many of them really know? they just know the rules, very few like games were you actually have to know the metagame a little to be competitive, wargames shines once you know the fundamentals, it's too overwhelming at the start

Also wargame has the same problem of Go, the feedback about how you are doing is too little, it's really difficult to see where you are fucking up

>>389975756
>meta unit
Not him, but what are the good units to roll with these days? Haven't played since they introduced Israel.

>>389976030
Maybe at high levels, but I can see I A LOT better with just a little bit of practice.
Hell, when I just started I couldn't even finish a fight in the First Korean War campaign without incurring in phyrric losses!
Now I can keep at bay the AI even when undermanned and without many resources!

>>389975928
>The missiles auto fire as soon as they're in range and follow any radar-producing signature?

Exactly. That's why you keep your radar units turned off unless you want to fire at a plane. (Or you're sure your opponent doesn't have SEAD in his deck.)

A common effective tactic with SEAD is to use it with a 1-2 seconds delay after your bombers/ATGM planes. A lot of SEAD planes have stealth too, making this tactic even more effective. The enemy turns his AA to fire at your attack planes, unsuspecting the SEAD just behind them.

Be wary of this tactic when defending against SEAD.

>>389976206
the 15pts finnish APC with a bushmaster 2
drugs
all crotale clones
recon tanks
the ripple-fire finnish ASFs
yugo infantry in general

a lot of the old meta-units are still good, these are just the new ones

>>389976542
Shit, that's why I hear everyone saying that you either use SEAD or you are a noob, I can't believe it's so damn strong! Thanks for the tip!

Naval warfare is pretty lame desu.

Is there any better tactics besides spamming?

>>389976030
>wargames shines once you know the fundamentals, it's too overwhelming at the start

if you like military-stuff you already know the fundamentals

if you know the role of the real-life counterpart of the units in the game and understand basic real-world tactics you're already better-off than 99% of the noobs

>>389976712
Be wary that some of the DLC factions have long-range AA that don't use radar. Yes, it's a bit P2W. Also a lot of people don't bother using radar AA at all.

>>389976918
nobody plays naval, redfor has a strong advantage because they have better ships

>try to join a game
>everybody player tries to get on a team where the other players have more playtime
>one team always have >100 hour players while the other team is full of newcomers
>battles are decided before they even start

Why I stopped trying to learn the game even though it's really interesting.

>>389977387
That literally is almost more than half the battle, the set up phase.

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>>389977424
If you're new, play noobs-only matches.

Also, play ranked or 1v1s. You can't blame your teammates if you're the only player on your team. 1v1s are the best way to learn the game.

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Also if you got shat0on by a good player, watch the replay so you can learn from your mistakes

>>389977424
This is a personal preference.
I'm always been the type "Retreat when necessary, never surrender!" So even in the face of unsurmountable odds I'll try to fight to the bitter end, thus also learning some new tricks trough the old and honored tradition of "watch and learn"

>>389977596
The problem is tha, at least in the EU server, there aren't a lot of noob matches

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>>389977859
Who's the sick fuck that enjoys seeing little girls suffer?

>>389977941
The artist is K*rean, it's to be expected.

>>389978024
Goddamn pseudo-chinks, apparently a war wasn't enough for them

>>389977859
>>389977387
These are my favorite things.

Who /NVA/ here?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kN9H-YET6k

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If you guys want in on a laugh, I highly recommend this youtube series. It's some of the best players on the game (top-25 of the ladder) casting matches of noobs and cheesy players in 1v1 ranked. It's some of the best content ever created for wargame.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-toGLhI5zs&list=PLg-omYUS4wBrZmq8dSUH1WOw0C28DFDrD

>>389977840
>The problem is tha, at least in the EU server, there aren't a lot of noob matches

10v10 are always cancerous and imbalanced, you can't avoid it.

>>389978308
Who doesn't love the Nighthawk?

Okay so I played the absolute shit out of RUSE and loved it, but I remember playing Airland Battle a few years ago and not even being able to get past the tutorial. Should I give the series another shot?

>>389978531
yes, but keep in mind that the first name of the game is Wargame, the second is Unforgiving

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>>389978531
yes

>>389977596
>>389978401
>>389978645
What's the tang of WG:RD?

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>>389978826
Juche

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>>389978817

>>389979432
Jesus Christ how terrifying

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I'm done dumping.

All jokes aside, steel division was fucking awful.

>>389979971
your dump was appreciated anon

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>>389971893
THere's a 200 page guide on the steam community hub. Start there.

>>389979890

hahhaha e xplosion!! xDDD kabloom!!!!!