TONIGHT IS THE NIGHT! Team Fortress 2 thread. Tonight probably

I claim this first post in the name of pyro
Gibus spies need not post

I haven't played tf2 in 3 years or so, but I just read some of the recent changelogs. Why the fuck did they nerf spy? Wasn't the class already shit?

>>389970904

I've been trying to pair up the Airstrike and buff banner lately. My thinking is that with the bigger magazine after a few kills, i'll have a much better potency off the banner despite the lower damage. Thoughts, improvements?

>>389972265
>I haven't played tf2 in 3 years or so, but I just read some of the recent changelogs. Why the fuck did they nerf spy?
Spy has been trash for a while now. It's been a really long time since I've felt challenged by any spy. As long as people spy check every now and then they aren't even a threat

>>389972265

In the right hands he stomps shitters who have no spacial awareness, so they want to make him so easy to kill a 3 year old holding W on Pyro can manage it.

Dead Ringer change however feels fair, I refuse to use that shit. Stock watch is really all you need to get around.

>>389972278
You would probably deal more consistent damage with the parachute. The BB would be good on defense tho.

>>389972265
>Why the fuck did they nerf spy? Wasn't the class already shit?

SPy received some very useful buffs, the more noticiable one is the improved movement speed.
They are nerfing the Dead Ringer because it is a free out of jail card so one spy can simply be a consistent annoyance at all times since all he needs to get invulnerable again is a ammo box.

The ambassador nerf was also necessary since getting headshots with it wasn't so hard and getting sniped from across the map by a spy was quite shitty,so now hitting head shot with it from long range will be much harder.

>>389972278
the parachute would be better but the banner ain't exactly awful with it.

I hope they buff the RS even more. The BB and RS are all I use on pyro. My primary is only used for airblasting players into RS range and the salt people have for that combo is beautiful

>>389972558
>with it wasn't so hard
how often do you ever see someone actually getting headshots across the map with it
I only ever see anyone doing good with it in about 1/300 spies
The weapon is difficult enough to use to merit its reward
lets not forget to even get to that level you need to practice the weapon just doesnt hand you free headshots across the map like the huntsman

>>389972265
Their hardest counter has been neutered for a while now. I don't think spies have ever been stronger.

>>389972915
>I hope they buff the RS even more
(you)

Please help it's 88 degrees in my house and I have no power

>tf2 devs nerfing items with high skill/high reward
Wouldn't be the first time, won't be the last

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TF2KEKS WILL NEVER, EVER GET THEIR UPDATE

>>389973307
They'll deffinetly rollout balances. I really doubt they are adding new weapons and maps.

>>389973015
by reloading you pretty much reset the spread and can easily hit head shots at mid range and it is not hard to hit headshots on stationary targets from afar. Just becausemost spies are shitters doesn't mean good spies don't take advantage of that. Same deal for the Sandman + cleaver combo

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>tf2
/v/ server when?

>they changed a viable demoknight sword into a quarter-zatoichi
>they thought it was a good idea

>>389974105
>they thought demoknight was a good idea

>>389973743
>can easily hit head shots at mid range
I dont think you understand that nothing about that weapon is easy
and if someone is just standing still then i dont think double headshotting them is OP if they arent even smart enough to use their keyboard

>>389973804
some euroguy usually makes a party van thread with a bunch of user maps and shit.

i havent played tf2 since it went f2p
it looks like shit now but is it worth jumping back into?

>>389974235
>I dont think you understand that nothing about that weapon is easy
i don't think you understand that the problem they are trying to fix is being able to hit headshots at long range. the nerf will barely affect spies while they use it for close or mid range fights, the nerf will only really affect spies that sit on a corner who try to headshot engineers, heavies and unaware snipers without actually risking himself.

the nerf is fair, much like the dead ringer nerf.

>>389973804
You don't want one. The last one was filled with furries and bronies.

>>389974653
i think ti is much better to pick one server that is empty or has a few players and just fuck off there for awhile.

>>389974874
Not I bad idea. I might get a party van thread going when I get home

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JUNGLE BOOGIE CONFIRMED
>JUNGLE BOOGIE CONFIRMED
JUNGLE BOOGIE CONFIRMED

>>389976094
www.teamfortress/jungleboogie/.com

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>>389974874
>>389974653
>>389974256
>party van died
anyone got an empty server?

>>389972127
Pick up a wheel class

>>389976273
>>389976094
do you have no fucking idea how to type a url

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>>389976273

>>389976320
Nemu usually has a empty server with random map rotation.

>>389976382
>Every class is either A: tank enough to out gun a wm1 pyro OR B: capable of escaping
>And players say the PYRO is for noobs when they can't do either

>>389977023
I say the Pyro is for noobs when I see retards stacking three of them and piddling around in the middle/bottom of the leaderboard, always sans microphone. The average Pyro's usefulness is somewhere between a Market Gardener and a Friendly Hoovie.
t. topscorer who wants a good time

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>>389977508
>300+ hours as pyro
>100 hours in dodgeball servers
>Enemy teams fw rockets, grenades, and arrows are back in there face

>All this Dead Ringer hate

Haven't played in a year or so when I left it was the best spy watch. What happened?

>>389978115
It still is, that's why. Assholes use DR + spycicle and won't die once the whole game, but have zero usefulness.

>>389978105
that's cool but I'd rather have a soldier with 100 hours in a jump map. hell, even 10 hours in a jump map.

>>389978115
>6 spys trying to out dead ringer eachother whilst not caping the payload
its good but its the fedora of tf2

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IT'S HERE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtQXmUolktk

how much of tf2's filesize is cosmetics at this point

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Hey /v/,
yore
ugleh

>>389980020
>Backburner
>+50HP
what were they thinking

>>389974263
Despite Valve's best attempts, it's still fun. A lot of community servers are ded though.

Vaccinator medic is the only true Medic

>>389981035
>Sandman
>Stuns ubered players
What were they thinking?

>>389982887
>FROM ANY RANGE
ahahHAHAHAHA

>>389980815
probably around 6gb or so.

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>>389983654
>using edgy effects and stock taunt cutaways on a boring kills

>>389970904
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qI9XzgJt1Ds
You don't know how to ease my pain.

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>>389984020
How have you not seen the full video, dumb newfig?

Why does the game both look and run worse than it used to

>>389984289
The game's been bloated to all hell with cosmetics, unusual effects and more. 2007 TF2 had none of that shit.

>>389984289
way too many cosmetics and effects.

even after the supposed downgrade the game still runs like shit in computers that used to run it normally.

>>389984289
Too many cosmetics/effexts and Source is an old ass engine.

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Post retard filters
>b-but muh clip size

>>389985137
>reloading twice as often
lol

>>389985137
the DPS on this thing has been tested and confirmed to be less than the pistol and the damage increase doesn't justify using it for burst damage. Unless something like the damage increase was increased dramatically its main idea of being a good weapon to finish off injured but retreating enemies is pointless, and the jump height increase is not only largely pointless on the scout but that stat isn't even related to the main point of the weapon. It is literally in any way inferior to stock pistol.

>>389985137
man what an ugly model

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>>389985137

Does the vaccinator count?

>>389985653
yeah

Is The Furry Pound still active?

>>389985137
I use this with the Soda Capper to jump everywhere. It may be weaker than the stock pistol, but I like being able to fly.

>>389985343
>jump height increase
>largely pointless
LMAO

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>mfw TF2 is a fairly niche game now

>>389985845
during the day in american hours

>>389986025
yeah, the most niche game in the top 7 most played Steam games.

>>389986025
not sure if it can be considered niche when it is one of the most played games on steam

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>>389986278
>i hate something because its popular
FUCK OFF!! you're kind always talk garbo about good games (that i enjoy) and ALWAYS act smug about it, well you're time has come bitch, i'll kick your ass you shrimp wristed faglord, give me a fucking address and ill make you squeal for having such shit taste, i'll make you suffer, when the door knocks. OPEN IT NUTSACKGARGLER

>>389986732
I don’t give a fuck who you are or where you live. You can count on me to be there to bring your fucking life to a hellish end. I’ll put you in so much fucking pain that it’ll make Jesus being nailed to a cross in the desert look like a fucking back massage on a tropical island. I don’t give a fuck how many reps you have or how tough you are IRL, how well you can fight, or how many fucking guns you own to protect yourself. I’ll fucking show up at your house when you aren’t home. I’ll turn all the lights on in your house, leave all the water running, open your fridge door and not close it, and turn your gas stove burners on and let them waste gas. You’re going to start stressing the fuck out, your blood pressure will triple, and you’ll have a fucking heart attack. You’ll go to the hospital for a heart operation, and the last thing you’ll see when you’re being put under in the operating room is me hovering above you, dressed like a doctor. When you wake up after being operated on, wondering what ticking time bomb is in your chest waiting to go off. You’ll recover fully from your heart surgery. And when you walk out the front door of the hospital to go home I’ll run you over with my fucking car out of no where and kill you. I just want you to know how easily I could fucking destroy your pathetic excuse of a life, but how I’d rather go to a great fuckng length to make sure your last remaining days are spent in a living, breathing fucking hell. It’s too late to save yourself, but don’t bother committing suicide either… I’ll fucking resuscitate you and kill you again myself you bitch-faced phaggot. Welcome to hell, population: you

tf2 is just overwatch for babies

>>389986898
choke on my ass nigger, i fuck many bitches including you honey. next time i call to yo crib you gonna get destroyed when i rape you're ass in a 1v1

>>389985137
Only good for maps you know you are going to stalemate a lot on to get in position to deny bombers, if you actually want to play the game and kill your targets use the pistol.

>>389987235
Okay please don't hurt me

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>>389987206
Really cool babies.

>>389987206
Both take less skill than Lawbreakers

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>>389987327
GIVE ME A GAME RIGHT NOW!! MY WHOLE FAMILY WORKS AT VALVE! IM GONNA OWN YOU! BITCH BOY

>>389970904
If it's not out by October 10th it's never coming.

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>>389987691
we still need to wait maybe one month for it.

I can't even imagine how much we will need to wait for the Heavy update.

How would you nerf the crossbow?

>>389990346
it is already planed to be nerfed.

I believe the nerf is quite fair.

>>389990527

How are they nerfing it?

>>389990852

From their original blog post.


Medic
Vita-Saw
Ubercharge on death is too valuable of an effect to be passive
Goal: Change the weapon in a way that requires skill and risk in order to gain this effect
Changes:
Added "Organs" collecting concept (... you know, hit someone with a saw, and out pops a vital organ which you then take, and hold). Each hit with the Vita-Saw harvests the victim's organs (shown on the HUD).
Added: On-death, preserve 15% ubercharge per Organ harvested. This effect caps at 60%.
Crusader's Crossbow
Bolt healing is very high and significantly out-heals the Medigun when the target is in combat. This might be okay given the trade-offs (risk-vs-reward of ranged shots hitting and the opportunity cost, no overheal). However, it's also the fastest way to build Ubercharge - under the right conditions (e.g. corner damage farming with the Medic behind cover).
Changes:
Ubercharge gain rate reduced in the same way that the Medigun's healing (and therefore, Ubercharge build rate) is - based on the last time the target was in combat
Reduced by a third when 1 - 10 seconds outside of combat, and scales up to normal over 10 - 15 seconds

>>389991038

Are those the only changes for medic, I'm really hoping they don't screw up the vaccinator like they already did once.

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Just came from Harvest

How did I do?

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>>389991247
We don't know.

Those are SOME of the proposed changes.

Every class is getting changes, the most noticeable ones are the spy nerfs

Spy
Ambassador
Players that are head-shot from across the map are expecting to see a Sniper in their death-cam, but they sometimes see (more often that we'd like) a Spy with a revolver
Goal: Reduce the effective combat range to something more reasonable and expected with the Spy
Changes:
First-shots are no longer perfectly accurate. Bullet-spread is instead reduced by 50%. This makes head shots less reliable at long range, while still very viable at close and medium-range.
Dead Ringer
Feign death is an interesting effect, but a good Spy can use it extremely frequently making it frustrating to play against and reducing the risk of using it nearly constantly
Goal: Rather than make it less interesting, let's make it more predictable to fight against by removing methods by which Spies can reduce its cool-down. This should create more of a rhythm to fighting against a Spy using this and introduce a little more risk to player using it.
Changes:
Ammo kits and dispensers no longer refill the Spy's cloak meter
Your Eternal Reward
This is the least-used Spy knife (technically, the reskin is, but anyway...). While silent-kill and rapid-disguise-on-kill are good, the downside on this knife is extreme.
Changes:
Removed: "Cannot disguise" penalty
Added: Non-kill disguises require (and consume) a full cloak meter
Backstab-based disguises are still free
Increased cloak drain rate by 50%

>>389991409

Ah gotcha, I'm just hoping they don't do anything drastic to the vaccinator, it's the main reason I still enjoy TF2 so much.

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>>389991396
that score difference is really big.

also

>Teams are unbalanced. Asking team BLU for volunteers

That shit gets on my nerves. Just auto balance that shit after the round ends valve, holly fuck.

>>389991534
If i had to guess it will probably get a change or some sort of nerf since people on the competitive scene don't like the vacinator too much.

>>389991396
So reporting does nothing, right? I've came across the same aimbotters a few times.

>>389991738
Don't know about other people but it's been doing nothing to me for a little over a year

>>389991734

A little change I can live with, it's just when they had the gun mettle update I believe it was they made the vaccinator practically useless, then it got rebuffed a few months later. It's a weapon for me that makes medic many times more enjoyable and I just don't want it to become useless again due to bad balancing, I'll agree it can be a bit strong in the right hands, but I hardly ever see the average player use it.

What is the best gun in the game and why is it the loose cannon?

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>>389993134

>>389993479
I'm baffled that, assuming that there are no more unseen balance changes in the update outside of Pyro's, they would nerf crutches like Dead Ringer and Danger Shield but keep this piece of shit untouched.

>>389993479
i really wish they would split the direct hit into 2 different rocket launchers, like they did with the equalizer.

Being able to destroy sentry and most classes instantly is fucking stupid.

>>389972482
>in the right hands
everybody can stomp shitters you mongoloid, kids play this god damn game

>>389985845
>tfw many years ago I accidentally joined a furry pound server
>somehow didn't notice it was furry pound
>friend gets on steam
>"anon why are you on a furry server"

>>389993479
why don't we see this weapon being used in comp play? I'm serious

>>389994951

Well just speaking in general the loss of splash damage is pretty big deal for the rocket launcher, I think it's a great sidegrade to the RL, but I feel there are situations where the regular rocket launcher does better.

>>389994951
because comp is not a pub and being able to juggle enemies with splash damage is much safer, people only play 2 scouts, 2 soldiers, a demo and a medic so there's really no point in using the direct hit.

>>389995151
>that meta
you mean 4 soldiers a demo and a medic right?

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>>389994367
>purposely join furry and mlp roleplay servers to murder

>>389994367
I remember joining a Saxton Hale server and staying due to how many custom bosses there were (this was before Freak Fortress was a thing). Only much later did I realize it was a barneyfag server, with most of the bosses being ponies.

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>>389993479
>DH remains unchanged and one of Soldier's best side grades since inception
>Loch n Load went from Demo's best side grades to one of the most useless weapons in the game

>>389970904
I wish someone would just nick tf2's code, and create a clone game ala eldewrito and balance the shit that valve neglected

>>389997953
but its a great sentry buster and has more range then the grenades.

your just mad cuz no insta kill scout

>>389998091
Isn't the direct hit also an instakill for a scout?
AFAIK getting a hit with the loch'n'load is much harder than it is getting one with the DH.

>>389998420
No, I don't think so.
I remember it doing like 111ish on clean hits. Sometimes it even does like 30, for scathing hits, which is in fact worse than default.

>>389998091
It was a great sentry buster before and actually had a chance of killing the engy repairing it thanks to the high damage it previously had. Used to help deal with Medic combos too, but now they just rush you down without even batting an eye because you cap at 100 damage each shot.

>>389998649
100 damage a shot is a tremendous amount you fucking monkey

That's the most non crit damage you can do with one shot except for like, a fully charged sniper shot.

>>389998420
It instakills scout at about 256hu well with in close range whereas LnL had no falloff. Another thing to note is LnL lack of a projectile spin made it faster than it was actually listed.

>>389999234
I'd be fine with the nerf in damage if they kept blast radius it originally had. Even if it's only 100 the ability to damage surrounding enemies or rack up decent damage to a Medic shoved up someone's ass is a decent trade off. Loch n Load was a damn good crowd controller, that's why I liked it so much.

>>389991734
Sauce?

Here's my brilliant idea to make the game infinitely better
>Increase max FoV to 100