How are you supposed to know what to do?

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Iizuka was way too subtle which is ironic considering the fanbase makes him out to be an idiot

Back then, games were made for people who weren't idiots. Try exploring your options, retard.

>>389911850
>explore your options
>do this thing never done in the series before
>implying people weren't shit back then

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>>389911850
dude, Carnival Night act 2 is NOTORIOUS for being the part of the game most kids gave up because of these barrels. Iizuka even apologized for it years later

>>389911962
>Up normally makes you look up
>Down normally makes you look down and you need to press down in order to spindash
>While on the barrel, up and down don't make you look in directions, so obviously something is different about their function
>Whoa, pressing up and down actually moves the barrel because the game gave you a cue that pressing up and down don't make you look up and down while on the barrel

>>389911647
Is this objectively bad game design?

>>389912245
why would you press up or down while on the barrel?

>>389911647
try all the buttons

>>389911647
Bubble Barrier + Turbo Controller

>>389912337
Because you can't move left or right, all the buttons accomplish the same thing and jumping never gets you anywhere. By process of elimination, the only two options left are up and down.

>B-B-B-BUT JUMPING MAKES THE BARREL MOVE SO IT MADE ME RETARDEDLY THINK THAT I COULD SOLVE THE PUZZLE BY JUMPING!
You can't jump on the barrel in a consistent pattern due to the way jumping off of it works, and even if you could, you won't get below it by jumping.

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>>389911647
used debug mode to beat the level

>>389912613
you can't move left/right/up/down on normal spinning platforms, that's not special to the barrel and gives you no unique feedback to solve what the issue is

>>389912245
So tell me about how the loss of up down function changed in hydrocity when you're atop similar spinning cylinders?
Just having the thing not move unless you're only hitting up and down would've made it worlds more clear. But if you're fast enough and have a bubble shield you're able to get past by jumping. So the feedback isn't, 'this isn't working lets try something else' it's 'this isn't working, I need to be faster or keep my shield.'
Hell to this day I can button mash like a beast because I thought that was how you had to do it until age 10.

>>389911647
common sense

>>389913032
I beat the game about 30+ times growing up when it came out and I genuinely thought the only way past was jumping up and down real fast until the meme about it started.

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>literally nothing else in the game used this mechanic before or after this part
>fags saying its common sense
Nah fuck off, all of you got stuck just like everyone else

>>389911647
>jump
>nope
>down for spin dash
>nope but the barrel moves
>down followed by up to build momentum
It wasn't that difficult.

>>389911647
>be 9
>stuck here
>do a spin dash : nada
>jump on it : no progress
>press EVERY button on the controller
>pressing down on the d-pad makes the platform moves
>"neat"

>Now
>retards everywhere complaining

>>389911647
The real idiots were the ones that solved this honestly. Pressing up and down on the barrel without moving is a braindead solution that only s retard would think would work.

I didn't play Sonic 3 until my late teens after playing the genesis Sonics my entire childhood and this dumb barrel fucked me over. Terrible godawful game design

>>389914004
>I was a little retard, so everyone must have been stick there

t. The videogame journalist

>>389914089
>>389914098
the barrel moves on its own, and pressing down during one bounce cycle does not make a noticeable change in how far down it goes.

>>389912443
You can, in fact, time jumps with the shield and use momentum to get through.

>>389914272
I just bounced on it with the bubble shield until I was able to sneak through the gap. I don't think I ever beat that stage with more than a couple seconds left on the clock.

>>389914390
You can also use Tails' help using flight to the same effect. Or Super transformation. But if you suck so bad you couldn't figure this barrel mechanic, you probably didn't realize you only collected the BLUE spheres and kept trying to grab the red ones too, so you didn't have any emeralds.

>>389912793
It does give feedback. The Sonic Games have a very specific kind of speed and momentum based on movement. Experimentation on the barrel shows that moving up and down has tactile response. Players that aren't numb will notice that their movements are moving the barrels.

>>389914810
If the solution to the problem is "mash buttons until you notice one has an effect", that is indefensible bad design

>>389914103
>only retards can solve this

So what does that make (You)?

>>389913032
>So tell me about how the loss of up down function changed in hydrocity when you're atop similar spinning cylinders?
Those spinning cylinders move up and down on their own, why would you try to experiment on them? Just face the fact that you're a fucking idiot that lacks basic problem-solving skills.

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I found a picture of the retards that couldn't figure out the barrel in this thread.

>>389911647

I played this shit first when I was like 11, got stuck but eventually found out how.

Played this game a couple of weeks ago, completely forgot how this shit worked.

> Pressing up and down is the bane of the Sonic fandom
No wonder this series attracts autists and furries.

>>389911850
>>389912245
>>389912613
>>389914810
t.Iizuka
Nice try.

>>389911647
You aren't, now please call the Sega game tips hotline.

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>>389914967
>literally no way of knowing this was a mechanic or ever used in any other part of the game
>same as lacking basic motor skills with giant instructions assaulting your eyes

>>389912245
everyone assumed the barrel was a jump pad. because it was acting like one, it just didn't give enough lift.

I ended up jumping it anyway back then (or just got lucky), and only figured out how to use it years later.

>>389912613
i got past the barrel by jumping

>>389914967
I think you guys should stop with the witch hunt before /pol/ gets involved.

>>389914881
I'm JUST saying. I didn't say it was great, but people saying there's nothing are objectively, factually wrong.

>>389914887
Dumber than a retard.

>>389914967

He wouldn't make it passed the first act of Angel Island act 1 BEFORE it goes up in flames.

>>389914881
>experimentation = button mashing

No wonder you suck at gaming.

>>389915392
>it just didn't give enough lift.
Which should clue you in to the idea that maybe, JUST MAYBE, what you're doing is wrong.

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>>389914913
If you read past the second sentence you'd find out that I did solve the problem.
I was able to get past the barrel by getting gud at not losing my shield from the beginning of the stage and mashing.
Also stop using present tense, I got the game when I was fucking 9. I had that problem when I was a 9 year old. Of course the shit is obvious now. I learned about it right after my birthday, but I still have the ability to mash it out.
But if it is that important to you, yes. You, whenever you figured out the barrel, was smarter than me at age 9.
Grats.