Morrowind is infinitely better than Skyrim. prove me wrong. protip:

everybody knows that, people just shitpost to get replies

>>389853253
Skyrim doesn't look like absolute shit

>>389853401
That's true. Doesn't make the game any better.

>>389854454
It does if you're chad. Only autistic beta faggots care about RPG elements.

>>389854535
>play an RPG
>don't care about RPG elements
t. skyrim fag

>>389854630
t. autistic beta faggot

Skyrim don't have
>*miss*
>*miss*
>*miss*
>*miss*
Skyrim>Morrowind.

>>389853253
Nah the lore in Morrowind is way too inaccessible, otherwise it'd be goat.

>>389854701
yeah, that's what i thought. you're fucking retarded, mate.

>>389854725
so you don't like realism? okay, go back to playing cod

>>389853253
Sure I can't
Thanks for the protip, OP
Bye

>>389854798

>missing 4 in 5 hits on a mudcrab
>realism

>>389853253
It's "better"
Yet somehow manages to be less fun

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>>389855250
>being able to lift a warhammer and kill 12 men with it instantly
>realism

>>389854701
Stop RPing you dork

>>389855250
fyi, the webm you're referring to is bait. it gets posted in every morrowind thread and immediately debunked, yet there are retards who still think it's legit. sad.

>>389853253
Morrowind combat
Lvl 1 Git Gud
Lvl 20 Oh shit ya gut 2 gud.

The real fatal flaw to Morrowinds combat isn't the shitty start (as bad as that is) it is it offers no challenge after lvl 20.

>>389855383
This pretty much

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>another "prove my opinion wrong" thread
that's not how it works

>>389855383
>>389855525
>>389855551
t. losers who like Skyrim
I bet you say SKYRIM BELONGS TO THE NERDDDZ XDDD

>>389854798
People trained in sword fighting don't miss. They get parried, blocked, or dodged, sure, but they don't straight-up miss.

>>389855480
>RPG rewards you for working on your character instead of being a constant level scaling bore

how dare it do that????

>>389855872
>trained in sword fighting
>literally a bum who got arrested

>>389855984
You literally train in swordfighting though. I mean I don't think anyone's complaining about sucking at fighting if that's not part of their build.

>>389855647
Yes i even audibly say exdeedeedee

>>389856103
not at the beginning, which is usually when you miss

>>389856257
You are, and in any case even without that you miss an unrealistic amount of times.

Although it's worth noting none of these games are really realistic at all (and I don't mean in the dumb "lol this game has magic why are you complaining about realism" shit).

>>389855904
Making a game you can expect to play hundreds of hours in boring after 10 is a good design decision to you?

If so we have very different tastes in games.

>>389853253
i prefer skyrim's controls and animation but other than that morrowind is superior if you want an rpg

>>389855984
It's really not that hard to hit a stationary object with a sword.

What's a good complete overhaul for Skyrim?

yeah but morrowind is only fun if you play a magic user because the magic system has so much depth to it

skyrim solved that problem by making magic almost as shallow as melee

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>>389857812
Enderal
https://sureai.net/games/enderal/

>>389858105

>lets rip-off the mass effect plot XD
Fuck off

>those graphics
>too much nerd reading
>boring, overly-complex stats
umm, no sweaty.

>>389854454
>looking like shit means nothing
So play a text based RPG. Goddam.

>>389858420
>those graphics
better than ME:A
>too much nerd reading
is reading a challenge for you?
>boring overly-complex stats
as opposed to no stats?
lel casul

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OP honors the Sixth House and the tribe unmourned.

>>389858585
>better than ME:A
Stopped reading there.

>>389853253
Morrowind
>6 bagillions uncessary skills
>can't hit anything in front of you
>unreadable wall of text for dialogues
>everything look dull and gray and blocky
>boss is some faggot with a golden gimp mask
>sex mods are poor quality free trash

Skyrim
>Only 18 great skills
>you can hit everything all the time
>dialogues are cut to two sentences per characters for better understanding
>everything look epic and you can even climb that mountain
>boss is a massive fucking dragon
>bagillion of buyable high quality sex mods

>>389859503
dagoth ur's mask is amazing

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>>389853401

>Skyrim doesn't look like absolute shit

All Bethesda games look like total shit, bro.

>>389853253
>Miss
>Miss
>Miss
>Miss

>>389859674
it's immersion, unlike being able to lift a warhammer and kill 12 men with it instantly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c598kuusepk

Morrowind has much more interesting setting which I consider a huge advantage, however otherwise pretty much everything else is better about Skyrim. To me they are about equal.

>>389859652
I don't talk with liars.

>>389859779
>master swordsman can't lift and hit a stationary horse with an axe
>immersion

>>389853253

Agreed. Morrowind is my personal favorite game of all time. Love the world, love the story, love the gameplay, love the charaters (Divayth Fyr's awesome, and you get to meet fucking Queen Barenziah). The weapon system is better (spears and thrown weapons still exist, and weapons are actually divided into proper categories), any kind of enchantment can be placed on any item, Night Eye doesn't look like shit, Mark, Recall, and Levitate were still a thing, Daedric equipment was properly rare and properly valued, making it feel like it was as powerful as it should be, the beast races (Argonians and Khajiit) were properly anthropomorphic, the Daedric Crescent was awesome... I could go on for days.

Everything becomes way too easy once you hit the 15~20ish range. Even the highest scaled enemies offer no challenge. This is also thanks to the horrendous AI, which can't pathfind for shit, and will flee in terror and glitch out if you jump sorta high.
Combat is more mindless and boring than Oblivion and Skyrim. You just swing at things until they die; weapons have different values for Slash, Thrust, and Chop, but there's no real reason to use anything other than the best type for your weapon. Magic seems deep at first as well, but there's never any real reason to not just use your damage spell of choice, a lot of options are completely pointless as well (Sound? Drain Skill?)
Quests are garbage. Almost every quest is the same as Skyrim's radiant quests. "Go talk to this person", "Go fetch me this item", "Go kill this guy". This is all you ever do.
The only things that make Morrowind stand out is its interesting lore and setting.

>>389860186
>>>389859779 (You)
>>master swordsman can't lift and hit a stationary horse with an axe
>>immersion
he's a swordsman, he doesn't know how to use an axe

>>389853253
Typical quest in Morrowind
>go to tomb X, kill monster Y, retrieve item Z
>on the way you get harassed by cliff racers

Typical quest in Skyrim
>go to tomb X, kill monster Y, retrieve item Z
>on the way you inadvertently pick up 5 other side quests, unlock 3 new shouts, level up 5 times and get new perks that actually affect the gameplay

>>389860823
He might not know how to use it properly, but any idiot can pick up and swing an axe.

>>389860823
If you can swing one weapon well, you shouldn't be completely helpless with another one.
Though a better comparison would be
>Have 100 Long Blade, so I can swing longswords just fine
>Have 10 Short Blade, so if I use a shortsword that's 3 inches shorter, I can't hit a stationary crab

>>389859593
He is wearing a plate on his face.
You are easily amazed.

>>389853253
I want a morrowind remaster but of course no never same with no Vegas. Just so buggy even with patches I adore these games but they are so darn dated. Yes they are better than skyrim by a country mile but skyrim is more accessible so as a result people will praise it more and their praise will drown out yours.

>>389853253
skyrim has unlimited quests tho

>>389855450
It IS legit. Nobody who has played the game for 500 hours will build a character that way, but it's a legitimate flaw that a new player (especially if you're starting Morrowind after playing Oblivion, like I did) can build their character in a way that makes the early game unplayable.
Yeah it's easy to start over as a Redguard swordsman born under the Warrior and have 80% hit chance at level 1, but when a game promises that you can build any kind of character you want, and all but a handful of builds are absolutely worthless, that's a flaw.

>>389855984

>swing three foot sword at enemy one foot away
>*miss*

My 15 year old brother can swing a sword better than most starting characters in Morrowind.

>>389853253
Morrowind shoves itsself into the corner at a retarded resolution that cuts off the top bit of the screen.
Skyrim doesnt.
Past that tho yeah morrowind shits on skyrim.
>missmissmissmisslolololol
>Not making a ring of 2 shock damage with 300 uses and going full vietnam on shit.

>>389861739
They're not worthless. They just have an initial hurdle.

It took me countless tries but I finally got into this game. It's a trip. I've been fucking around in Balmora for a while doing Mage's Guild and Fighter's Guild quest but I want some powerful artifacts. Where should I go next? I haven't even talked to the dude I was told to report to in Balmora.

>>389858732
yo nigga i wanna FUCK that dunmer

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>>389862271
For more info, my character is me trying to do light RP as the faggot on the right. I'm playing a dunmer that uses a spear and some magic.

>>389862271
Do the first quest Caius offers you, it's another fighter's guild errand but it's pretty good.
Go to the Tribunal temple and join(and buy the intervention teleport spell), their first quest is a pilgrimage all around the world that you can get done bit by bit.

You've seen Hlaalu in Balmora, check out Ald'Rhun and the Telvanni coast and think about which house you like best.

Avoid the expansion content until you're a higher level though.

>>389862271
Chat up Caius before you get ahead of yourself, so you don't just steamroll the early main story quests.
If you're interested in spears, then I *won't* tell you to explore Vivec's sewers.

>>389862651
>Go to the Tribunal temple and join
That doesn't count as a great house right? Are you talking about the temple in Balmora?

>>389862717
>If you're interested in spears, then I *won't* tell you to explore Vivec's sewers
Oh?

>>389862984
No there are only the three great houses. You can do everything else without it being mutally exclusive.

The temple in Balmora yes. That's the Tribunal or Dunmer temple. Imperial Cult temples are different and are usually located in the Imperial forts.
Oh and you can join the Imperial legion as well.

>>389863117
Ah, okay. Thanks for clarifying. Without giving too much away, can you tell me if there is a clash between the Imperials and the Dunmer? I'm RPing as Dunmer supremacist. So I wouldn't want to join the Imperials right?

>clumkly
>blocky
>horrible SXF
NO.

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>>389863160

Do you guys ever add music to Morrowind?
I don't dislike the music in the base game by any means, but I like some variety after playing for so long.

>>389853253
skyrim is funner, has better graphics, and more/better music

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>>389863328

>>389861739
this is how retarded you are.

>play as a mage
>surprised when you suck with a two handed weapon

>>389863268
You wouldn't in that instance. I also guess stay away from house Hlaalu.

Daggerfall and Skyrim are the only TES games where politics and cultural clashes play a central role.
Though the Tribunal expansion for Morrowind has some political stuff.

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>>389863536

>>389863667
it may be terrible by olden standards, but imagine how they would review skyrim

>>389862480

Only beta virgins play as dak elves irl btw. Chad would play default nord.

>Want to play Morrowind
>waiting for Open MW

Open MW when?

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>>389853253
>good game
>has worse floor collision than Sonic 06

>>389858328
>>lets rip-off the mass effect plot XD
Just like Mass Effect ripped off Star Control 2

>>389853253
dunmers are shit
the combat is shit
the graphics are shit
can't be modded

there

>>389864267
with the name still prisoner

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>>389864762
>can't be modded
>mfw
seriously though, it has mods before you were alive

>>389853401
Vanilla Skyrim looks horrible. Morrowind has a nice aesthetic.

>>389854779
>>389855432
seething

>>389864267
Have you considered Chads aren't really bright?

>>389854752

'Huuuuurr Duuuuuuhr. Caaaaaan't reead.'

>>389862365
If you finish the MQ of Morrowind you fuck every dungmer.

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>>389859503
>everything look epic and you can even climb that mountain
Only with ENB and texture mods
>boss is a massive fucking dragon
That was severely undervalued for one that is considered as a concept of time, along with having every other wyvern be an oversized cliff racer.

>>389863621
Political conflicts
>Imperial vs Nord Separatist
>Thalmor vs Talos worshipers
>Nord vs Forsworn
>Nord vs non-Nord immigrants
>Hlaalu vs Redoran (on Solstheim)

Cultures in Skyrim
>Nords in most of Skyrim
>Imperialized Nordic like in Solitude
>Dunmer in Windhelm and Solstheim, Azura and Boethia shrines
>Orc strongholds
>Reachmen camps
>Giant camps
>Ancient Nordic in the ruins
>Ancient Falmer in the Forgotten Vale + Calcelmo's texts
>Dwemer cities

There is certainly is cultural diversity in the game. Cyrodiil felt too homogeneous.
Little on the Colovian/Nibenesse distinction. Only the Ayleids were the forgotten culture.

>>389865392
everyone gets fucked except in arena

>>389863621
Okay thanks a lot my man

>>389864267
n'wah

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>>389863160
>>389863328
>>389863667
Daggerfall autists are a marvel to see. They got so buttmad when their glorified buggy dungeon crawler actually got turned into a handcrafted RPG, that they started spouting how Morrowind got dumbed down, because 90% of the copypaste got cut out. But somehow they forget that the amount of unique stuff increased tenfold.

>>389854798
>Sword physically hits entity
>MISS

My issue is the lack of visual feedback and the shitty animations. I agree everything else is superb in Morrowind

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>>389858585
>better than ME:A