This is the ultimate controller.

That version was never released. I can't decide if it would have been better. The trackpad does not work as well for movement as it does for aiming.

It's breddy gud, my biggest complaint being that the d-pad is as close to useless as it gets without being literally non-functional.

I like it but why are all community configurations so shit?

>>389842846
An analog stick is good for some things. It provides more resistance to motion and has a hard stopping point to help you intuitively know where your thumb is. If I were going to make a general purpose controller, I would have a d-pad and analog on the left side.

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>>389842846
>tfw sweaty hands

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Why did Valve give up on it and their dream of being a hardware manufacturer so quickly then?

>>389843509
>>389843509
anon the actual steam controller has an analogue stick where those directional buttons are. op posted a prototype.

>>389843690
how do you know they gave up on it?

>>389843714
I know and I have one. There are people who claim that the prototype would have been the better controller though. I thought it would be best to assume OP knew what image he was posting.

>>389843739
The last time a steam machine was released was like 2 years ago.

>>389842846
I love my steam controller, but i am tired of the interface
the driver is amazing, but the configuration utility is pretty much permanent alpha status

i know i know, it is because they are going to drop SteamU... but that excuse is becoming months and months

I still remember it took more than a year for valve to support flac in the music player. this is in the same fashion

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>>389843447
>turn the d-buttons into a d-pad
>can no longer push all the directional buttons at once
>lose the ability to Max kirby's spark power
Not gonna fool me again, tramp

>>389843895
steam machines weren't made by valve though, they were made by third parties and the 'steam machine' label was basically saying 'this prebuilt can run x y and z and also runs steam os'.

quite a lot of people have been buying the controller and steam link

>>389844087
what the fuck are you talking about? the marketed version doesn't even have direction buttons

>>389843690
If they gave it up, they would stop supporting it.
The reality is a slow expansion, which also draw stuff to steam, since Steams fully featured input mapper gets more expansive.

>>389844603
??? What the hell are talking about? That wall Gabe's IDEA and he paid them to do this.

>>389844769
http://store.steampowered.com/sale/steam_machines
educate yourself
>alienware
>maingear drift
>materiel.net
>scan 3xs st
valve didn't make these. it's the same with the HTC vive. HTC are making it, valve just provided input during the design process.

>>389842846
the software side of the steam controller is too complex for journos or cod dude bros

it is such an amazing device. you can configure anything to do anything you want
you can create custom overlay menus
you can create any type of button combination, or map any combo of keyboard keystrokes to any button

and on top of that, you can define profiles you can toggle on the fly using any key you want

and on the top of that, you can define events for every button event: pressing the button, double taping the button, releasing the button....

since i bought it, i am playing all the games i couldn't because they didn't have gamepad support
>but joy2key
don't make me laugh

as i said before, i will say it again: 2deep4u

>>389844885
Do you think manufactures just build them for Free? Are you actually retarded?

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>>389844963
what is it that you aren't getting? valve aren't paying them to make steam machines. valve is literally just giving them space on a store page and the 'steam machine' brand. why would valve be paying them?

>>389845119
This is naive anon. To sell hardware you have to mass produce thousands of units in the first place. To mass produce thousands of units you need to invest millions of dollars of your own money. Hardware manufacturers won't do that if they don't even know there's a market there. Valve definitely invested money in convincing people to make Steam machines.

>>389845259
>>389844963
Who knows.
There are 2 common practices:
1. You license out stuff, so Valve makes money
2. You bribe a producer to start production, so Valve only earns money from the attachment of actual sales
Valve makes money either way, so long Steam Machine sales keeps on going.

>>389845259
I doubt it, they probably just did a partnership with whoever was willing to take a risk. Companies spend money on risky endeavours all the time, especially tech companies.

>>389843447
>Replace trackpad with analog stick
T. Console babbie

>>389846274
my last console was the SNES
after almost a year playing with the steam controller, the left trackpad is hardly used (sadly)
it is almost impossible to find official or community bindings that use the left trackpad, and i finally ended up forgetting about it

>>389846468
Yeah the only thing it is useful for is cloning the right pad in mouse based games. I would much rather have a d-pad or 4 buttons.

>>389845785
>Keep going
It's been dead since 2015.

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>>389843447
>Steam Controller with a movement stick AND a dpad
There's no fucking point in it being a Steam Controller anymore at that point. Might as well just fucking add another stick and make it a normal controller you fucking animal.

This will ALWAYS be the most retarded opinion regarded the SC. Holy shit you people can be retarded sometimes.

>>389847646
yes, because you still have the dank right touchpad, you absolute fag

>>389847646
The second trackpad is pretty useless.

>>389847765
>>389847808
>No left touchpad
Into the trash right along with your opinions.

Fucking retards

>>389847830
do you even have a steam controller?
i love both trackpads, but the left one is hardly used
every fucking binding use it as the xbox pad, it is not even funny

>>389847830
What exactly do you use the left pad for? I just can't imagine anyone being so attached to it.

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>>389842846
It's really nice for browsing and using a computer "remote" for a couch setup. Having the keyboard and ability to work with 99% of programs off the bat is amazing. Other than that, the touchpads aren't that great for games like Dark Souls, Nier, etc, which are all I bought it for.

>>389847932
this
it is the definitive youtube controller

>>389847876
>>389847912
Off the top of my fucking head I use it in
>Dragon Age Origins as a massive wheels of bindings for the action bar (As you would do in any CRPG basically)
>World of Warcraft
>Any RTS or top down RPG like Torchlight
>Any elder scrolls game
>Dungeon Defenders
>FTL
Pretty much any actual fucking PC game I've run off the controller. Ever.
Just because you're a pleb and dont get the most out of your controller doesn't mean other people don't.
>Lets take a controller that was designed to innovate controllers and saddle it with a 20 year old vetigial input method
Your idea is next level retarded and misses the point of the controller entirely by relegating the diverse as fuck trackpads into exclusively controlling the camera.

You should have a fucking controller off to the side for dpad games no matter what anyway. The PS4, Xbone, and Switch Pro all have trash dpads as well. Just do that and stop suggesting Valve revise the Steam Controller in a way that would fundamentally ruin it.

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This is the ultimate evolution of martial arts.

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>>389847932
Really? I use the Controller for Nier Automata and Dark Souls and I'd never go back
>Bind gyro to the shoot button
>Can aim without taking my hands off of the face buttons and keep attacking and aim at the same time
>SC on Dark Souls makes bows and shit actually viable because you can really aim them.

>>389848104
Vestigial*

>>389848104
The wheel of bindings is the only thing you actually gave us here. Telling us the games you use it for isn't very helpful.

The wheel binding thing is nice but I think a dpad would be much more useful for more games personally.

>>389848104
>Just because you're a pleb and dont get the most out of your controller doesn't mean other people don't.
you are salty as fuck

the camera trackpad is amazing, both the trackball mode or the other one. it is a genius addition

but using touch input for movement is somewhat sketchy. the joystick emulation mode is garbage, and i have already tweaked it a million times. The only config i have found usefull is mapping it WASD. that way and having a deadzone works decent for me.

they have already talked about not changing the design, and just cosmetic stuff, so i guess we will get bigger buttons, better bumpers and textures

i would love that they remove the cross engrave on the left trackpad. that shit is annoying

>>389842846
Do those pads feel like rubbing your thumbs against cheap plastic?

>>389848292
Also, with mode switching you could use the right pad for bindings easily. I don't think anyone is good enough at multitasking that they would miss the ability to select from a wheel and look around at the same time

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>>389848292
>Ok but I'm gonna need an essay with specific citations and evidence of exactly how you use the left touchpad in games
Mostly extra buttons and mouse regions, that's as specific as I'm getting into because it's not worth engaging you.

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>>389848417
>Just mode shift it man
Ok, you're now down an entire physical button for modeshifting and can't use the camera and attacks at the same time genius.

>>389848443
I am just assuming that what you use it for is really minor or could be done with buttons.

>>389848104
>You should have a fucking controller off to the side for dpad games no matter what anyway.

OP said the ultimate controller. That would imply that this thread is from the perspective of a general use controller and not the actual intended purpose of the steam controller. A d-pad is more useful on a controller that would need to be used for everything.

>>389848183
>Dark Souls
I don't completely like it for Dark Souls because of how clunky the d-pad is. On either touch or press mode claw grip will result in more errors than accurate inputs, so if I want to cycle between items/weapons during a fight I have to take my thumb off of the control stick to use it and it bothers the fuck out of me. It also makes using menus while moving nearly impossible, which is really annoying if you're an autist who likes to do speedrun challenges.

>>389848404
They actually feel really good. The rumble moves along with your finger to give the feeling that you are actually moving something rather than sliding your finger over it. It is much better than a laptop track pad or a touch screen.

>>389848530
You don't need to attack and look at the same time on any game where bindings are used.

>>389848572
Like 20 fucking buttons at the same time which the SC can't do otherwise and jumping the mouse to specific regions of the screen with mouse regions. You'd objectively lose out on most of the functionality of the controller

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>>389847526
If thats true, they wouldn't keep doing:
1. Software updates to the client, for the hardware
2. Produce more hardware
3. Sell more hardware
4. Advertise it

the best thing about the Steam Controller is that there are literally hundreds of used Steam Controllers in the market
and they are almost new

i bought mine from a guy that used it for one week. he was so stupid he could not figure out how to configure it
>i don't like it
>i want to play CS:GO and this thing is weird!!

>>389848636
Oh boy, the Steam controller can't do 2d platformers and fighting games which require a dedicated controller to play seriously anyway. But plays every other game better than a normal controller would.

Oh no, what a shame.

>>389848645
>Using default bindings
>Using it like a Xinput Controller
Why show that you are the retard?

>>389848937
i play 2d using both trackpads with onclick enabled
it works pretty good

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>>389842846
*blocks your fukin path*

>>389848806
Right I guess controller the game being clunky as shit where you have to press a button and sacrifice control to use a move it just a nonissue

>>389848887
http://www.pcgamer.com/what-happened-to-steam-machines/
>“Nobody was buying it with SteamOS,” Digital Storm marketing manager Rajeev Kuruppu tells me over the phone. The manufacturer had already been building the Eclipse—which is still available with Windows—when Valve pitched SteamOS, and added a Steam Machine build mid-project. That version has since been axed, and Digital Storm no longer has an active relationship with Valve.

>>389848645
>Claw gripping
>Ever
>Let alone on a fucking SC

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>>389849014
>150 dollars for backpaddles and a not shit dpad
Literally the Beats of the game industry.

>>389849014
Does this thing still break after a few months of use?

>>389842846
Agreed

>>389848848
I don't play MMOs so this is not something I'm concerned about.

>>389848937
That actually would be a shame and I would absolutely not be willing to give that up. I would not give up a d-pad even if it is just used for menu navigation.

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>>389849092
So you are saying:
1. You don't understand what SteamOS is, or what the bundle software is
2. You don't understand how hardware sales work
3. You don't understand how projects of passion work
4. You don't understand what the Steam Controller is, or its ecosystem

>>389849376
Steam Controllers "dpad" is completely fine at menu navigation. It's only movement.

If you care enough about a dpad to still need it on a controller you care enough to go buy a controller with a good dpad as a side piece (A good dpad is not gonna be found on the big 3's controllers either)

There's literally no point in ruining the controller just to accommodate one genre

>>389849031
In a game like Dragon Age it is a non issue.

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>>389849564
>Making the game control worse is a nonissue
You're a literal animal

>>389849109
It served me faithfully for Bloodborne and Monster Hunter, it's just a source of mild annoyance that it doesn't work on the SC since I'll often try to do it out of habit and end up triggering every input on the left pad except the one I wanted.

>>389849525
The only genre the left pad is usable for is RPGs. The dpad would be generally useful for many genres.

>>389849285
No i still have my elite wireless controller since 2015.

I remember the plastic shell on the USB dongle just fell of mine while it was plugged in.
I thought it was super high tech cooling feature and it would close itself at first.
Ended up having to wrap tape around it.

>>389849652
It wouldn't be worse it would literally not matter at all. The game has slow MMO style combat.

>>389849395
Indeed, you don't understand that it's not a thing anymore.

the gyro is awesome for golf games

>>389849706
>Lose the ability to play PC games on your Steam Controller to gain the ability play 2D platformers and only gain 2d platformers
You're clinically retarded. Don't (you) me.

>>389844934
I've never been able to get it to work outside emulating a 360 pad.
Whenever I try to play emulators or something that is not 360 compatible the controller just sucks. Half the time it will open a keyboard menu or close out of the game I am trying to play and press the D-pad and a face button together.

>>389849525
I do have a regular controller to go along with my steam controller. I also agree that they should not change the steam controller to accommodate a specific genre. However, you missed the point I was originally trying to make. The OP said ultimate controller, which implies that this is an argument for a general use controller. From that perspective, the steam controller is not ideal.

>>389849987
The Steam Controller can be used to genuinely improve how other games control. A vast majority of games are best played on the Steam Controller. Not having access to one genre really wouldn't be that big of a deal (Especially when you consider that stick support for modern 2D platformers is not only well supported but sometimes the norm).

>>389849862
Nice job ignoring every argument given to you.

>>389850196
Give me something worth engaging because "dpads would generally be useful for several genres" is not only unspecific and useless. It's also not true

>>389849395
Holy fuck, do you work for valve you salty bitch?

>>389850082
I can only think of a few genre of games where the left track pad would be useful. If you are using it as a way to access hot bar type buttons, a Wii U style game pad would be the better choice.

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>>389849285

>>389850593
Yeah, every other controller has a dpad for no reason. All you have given us is that you use the left pad for RPGs, one of which is fully playable with an xbox controller. Calling people names and saying fuck a lot doesn't add any weight to your opinion.

>>389850715
But I like those genres better than other genres so everyone else is a retard.

>>389849795
Any particular golf game? I've been looking for something of a hot Shots Golf clone on steam.

>>389850802
>Yeah, every other controller has a dpad for no reason
Because console manufacturers need their controllers to be able to handle any type of video game without the need for extra shit. Which is why the big 3's controllers are a jack of all trades master of none situation.
>All you have given us is that you use the left pad for RPGs, one of which is fully playable with an xbox controller.
The left touchpad can be used for up to 20 extra fucking inputs on the controller. Typically two sets of buttons, the first one being gameplay buttons and the second being menu buttons, meaning that you fundamentally wouldn't be able to control the games as well without that second touchpad.

You have zero idea what you're talking about. This is your last (you)

>>389843714
The thumbstick isn't very good on the final version though. Compared to the DS4 which goes for a similar placement it feels less good to use due to the shape of the lower handle.
And I know that because I have the two controllers on my desk in front of me and just now compared holding them (I also have a 360 pad).
I do really wish that grip buttons and dual stage triggers were a standard though because I love those.

>>389844024
Also this. The Steam interface for rebinding the controller is buggy (Will frequently drop mouse support during configuration, etc), unresponsive (Frequently not doing things until several seconds after they have been done), inexact (because you are always dealing with sliders) and lacking in functionality (For instance if you want to mode-shift specific keys or have multiple mode shifts you need to faff around with multiple controller profiles and if you want to change anything else then you have to do so across multiple controller profiles).
This is really bad for a controller that requires extensive configuration and is an acquired taste.
>>389844934
It's useful but it is also garbage.

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>Tfw only one modeshift per input
I just want like 3 fucking left touchpad menus worth of inputs for MMO's and RPGs

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>Dualshock 4
$45
Poor build quality, still using springs for the triggers instead of a proper mechanism, too small, poor battery life even for a 2nd rev.
Need extra bluetooth adapter $15 that may or not work because no one ever released concrete information about it.

>Xbox One S
$45
No rechargeable battery included, need to buy external rechargeable batteries if you don't already own some $15 for cheap chink models or $25 for the official battery pack.
Official Wireless adapter costs $25, risk buying a Bluetooth dongle that may or may not work just like with the DS4 $15.

>Wii U Pro
$40
$16 for the Mayflash adapter that has great driver support and functionality.
No Analog triggers.

>Switch Pro Controller
$60
Don't even works wired, wireless only.
Dinput only, needs extra software to work as a xinput device.
$25 for the wireless adapter that solves the need of extra software and provides xinput and dinput and guaranteed wireless.
No analog triggers.

>Steam Controller
$50
No rechargeable batteries included
Needs Steam or extra software to be usable(big NO NO)

What a bother to be in the position of need to replace your current controller to use on PC, I'0ve been using my Dualshock 3 wires since 2008 and I'm in need of upgrading to something right now.
Even those chink controllers like the GameSir G4s are looking for appealing that the big guys.
$49.99
Wireless dongle included, rechargeable battery, customizable and other stuff like turbo, analog stick with very small deadzone, chink shit so risk getting a defective product but that can happen with everything just look at the Xbox Elite controller.


The Wii U Pro Controller + Mayflash Adapter would be the perfect combination for plug & play and forget since the adapter works as if it was a console even shutdowns the device when in no use for X time and all that jazz, only if it wasn't it because it lacks analog triggers.

>>389852039
>Needs Steam or extra software to be usable(big NO NO)
it works while steam is not running
and while it is running, you get the whole set of features for anything on your pc

the thing is, the software side of the steam controller has absolutely no competition

>>389851407
Only MMOs use that many inputs and they are trash.

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Playing Nier

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>>389852039
You can't have it all on one controller without it sucking at some things, this is the combination of controllers I use.

You can run Steam and add non steam games to it for the controller. You don't need to start giving Steam money. Alternatively if you're a linux bro there's a program that interfaces with the SC on that. I do understand though, I wish it wasn't the case either, but there's actual functionality of the Steam Controller that it relies on Steam to accomplish like controller overlays for trackpad buttons and shit, if that helps at all.

>>389842846
I love it, it's an amazing controller.

It's just a matter of getting used to it. Also, it's great for FPS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW3B0slwCA0

>>389852209
>>389852309
really cool vids
nice that you show the custom menus function

one thing that surprised me during the time using the steam controller, is the amount of people that praise the gyroscope input. I personally use it when sniping, to have a finer grain input

>>389852309
>>389852209
Play the kys game next.

>>389852876
that is a PS4 exclusive, lad

>>389842846
steam controller sucks donkey balls and feels likes its made out of cardboard

>>389852309
how do you get that custom menu?

>>389853185
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsWOzdxaK50

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>>389852309
WOULD YOU LOOK AT THAT

THE LEFT TRACKPAD IN ACTION

>>389852853

The only thing that's been finicky for me with the steam controller is getting different action sets to reliably switch between each other without going out of sync.

>>389853489
Even better

By default its a radial weapon wheel.

when I hold down the start button for half a second it turns into a menu with shortcuts for Raising/Lowering the gamma and QuickSave/Load

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>>389853683
It's almost like replacing the left trackpad with a dpad would be retarded or something.

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>Lost my steam controller dongle
>Bought a new one
>Steam Controller doesn't automatically hook up with the new dongle
>No fucking idea how to make it work
HELP

>>389853815

All they should do is deepen the ridges on the left trackpad, add some dimples or some shit.

I FINALLY got used to noclip touchpad dpad through a playthrough of super metroid

>>389853981

go to big picture and pair it.

>>389842936
>decide
An analog stick is still helpful for racing.

>>389842846
To be honest, my preferred controller is the Steam controller. I used to feel quite differently, however. I had to experiment with the touch settings in order to really appreciate it.

I hated the "trackball" feel, and I've never been a fan of haptic feedback vibration. I turn it off on every device I acquire. Once I realized I could turn that off and make it more like a touchpad instead of a track ball, I fell in love with the smoothness of the controls. Plus, my thumbs didn't hurt after playing for a couple of hours (I'm 34 and my hands don't work as well as they used to). I ended up letting my 5 year old (at the time) son try it, and he didn't need to alter the control scheme at all. For him, it seemed to be extremely intuitive. I ended up giving him mine and buying another one for myself, as well as the Steam Link, which I also recommend getting.

Honestly, I think it is just the controller with the most potential. My son, who is 7 now, and I have both been using our controllers frequently and they still look brand new. It's a solid piece. I've dropped mine on tile a handful of times because I'm a clumsy fuck and it still works beautifully. If you're on the fence, just wait until the next sale. Steam Controller usually goes 35%-50% off, and Steam Link will go as much as 70% off. Don't pay fully price, but any discount on them makes it a worthwhile purchase.

It's pretty good, I've taken a liking to using the trackpad to control the camera in third-person action games like Dark Souls and Nier: Automata.

>>389854097
Thanks senpai. No idea why that didn't work when I tried last night.

>>389843447
>>389847646
>>389847808
>>389848104

I actually do agree with both sides here.

The best option was to make another steam controller with an analog and dpad instead of an analogy and trackpad. So people can choose either. Those that didn't play fighting or games that required a dpad would use the original and those that wanted a more general controler would chose the second/

>>389853815
A d-pad could do what was done in that video.

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>>389854441
The absolute state of you

>>389854441
Only for 8 inputs anon, IF the dpad works properly, which a lot of modern dpads don't.

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>>389854434
>Not an interchangeable analog stick and dpad
trackpad will always be more important than either of those input methods

>>389842846
>tfw no way to disable big picture mode
Love the controller but big picture can go suck a dick

>>389854606
>interchangeable

I was thinking that but interchangeable shit is also prone to breakdown/being defective over time

>>389854806
If that's the case then ditch the dpad.

Any good uses for gyro? Im out of ideas

>>389854676
Turn the controller on after starting the game.

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if it ain't broke..

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>>389849014
>Premium quality
>Still has dpad with travel time and platform elevation
Pick one.

>>389854538
>only 8

>>389855539
the GOAT

>>389855597
If you can do more than 8, that means you can push down more than 2 buttons at the time, and then you most likely have completely fucked up diagonals and possibility of full presses by accident.

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>>389855325
Aiming? What else do you really need it for?
If you're really out of buttons you can bind inputs to the gyro I guess.

A little highly specific, but I use the Steam Controllers gyro to recreate the Wii motion control schemes for the Bit.Trip games so that I can play the games the way they were originally designed but with motion controls that aren't jittery garbage. It's pretty nice,

>>389855539
>That dpad
>The travel time on those triggers
>Eh sticks
>No modern enhancements like backbuttons or gyro aiming
I mean I keep one handy just because I know failing everything else this controller will always be detected and work easily/multiplayer, but I'd never opt to use it.

>>389856115
Why would you need more than 8?

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>>389857405
Hahahahha
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hahaha!

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>>389857405
>Why would you need more than 8?

>>389857528
what am I looking at?

Wanted to get one of these but never felt the need with an Elite lying around.

>>389857528
So it's okay for the controller to be catered to MMOs but not 2D games?

>>389857747
You're looking at more than 8 motherfucker

>>389857747
Somebody forgot to pay their rent.

>>389857867
In what way? How is a radial menu used in this context?

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>>389857405
Did you know that most PC games used to map stuff from 1 to 0(10)? So you need 10 inputs + some sub menu?
Honestly, a lot of RTS games is also playable on a Steam controller, because Mouse Region + mode shifting allows a lot of nifty simple inputs without turning into a hotkey festa.

>>389858423
I have been playing PC games since before you were born.

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>>389858605
Unless you are in your 40s, i doubt it.
Or, if you are, then have fun with your backlog.

>>389848645
>>389849702

do you realize you can rebind every key you like and even change the behavior of the touch pad from touching to hard pressing right? Looks like you are simply too lazy to figure out how to customize the controller properly

>>389843690
Because they are already living the dream, with a high profit and no risk bussiness. Why would they try to build some piece of hardware when they already have the monopoly in PC? They don't have to produce anything nor research it so their costs are minimal, they only pay for servers and customer service and even then, both of these are shit.
That's why they abandoned the Steam machines
That's why they abandoned SteamOS
That's why they abandoned their single player franchises.
The only exception in VIVE and even then they didnt try to monopolize the technology and sell it by themselves, instead they decided to make a partnership with HTC, so they could focus in the service, instead of dealing with the hardware problems

>>389858857
>change the behavior of the touch pad from touching to hard pressing
Whether in touch or hard press mode it just doesn't like to play along with anything but the left thumb from the usual position. The fact that you can rebind it doesn't mean it's wrong to wish that it worked a bit better as a d-pad.

the steam controller is truly the best controller ever made but it has a steep learning curve and i will never recommend it to somebody without the patience to fine tune it

here an example of the possibilities http://www.pcgamer.com/steam-controller-setup-guide/

>>389859408
It is useless as a d-pad those indents have to be a joke.

>>389859460
The main issue with stream controller is:
- Drivers require game to be running on steam to work properly
- Originally hidden behind big picture mode (which is shit and no longer actively in dev), now you get shitty interfaces
- shitty interfaces for everything
- lack of tutorials of the most complex configuration modes
- Bugs everywhere with the current drivers

The hardware is fine, and the idea is good.

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>>389852992
>exclusive

>>389859850
>- Drivers require game to be running on steam to work properly

adding a nonsteam game is quickly enough and not much of an assle
>- Originally hidden behind big picture mode (which is shit and no longer actively in dev), now you get shitty interfaces

you said well "originally", its not the case anymore

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>>389849395
1. Is a fucking Linux Distro that doesn't work like a Distro and doesn't have any advantage besides having Steam pre installed.
2. Companies want money, that's all. Some made an agreement with Valve to launch "console PCs" with SteamOS. But they don't sell, so they're shipping them with Windows instead.
3. Steam machines were a collaborative project between manufactures and Valve. They trusted Valve, and Valve didn't delivered. They lost money. There is no passion here.
4. Is just a fucking controller. It also was a key part of the future of the Steam machines. Now that the machines are dead, the controller lost its purpose on the big scheme of Valve. They're still supported and maybe they're making a profit, but I bet digital hats and chest are a better business.

>>389855539
>asymmetric
It's broke

>>389860456
Please mister Duck, show some restraint.
That is not healthy for any of us.

It has a ton of problems. The build quality on the version I and my friend have seemed poor to say the least. However, the idea is solid. I'd rather have someone competent building it but at least there's now a possibility of quality controller manufacturers making similar devices. I don't like the paddles but I have some fucking mitts on me so that's almost certainly a personal problem. The adjustment required to make it functional without having to run it in SBP, which I believe an anon said is no longer required made it unfun to say the least. However, as is obvious it sure as shit did cursor based gameplay far, far better than a stick ever could. Was pretty ass at anything i'd describe as being mechanically intensive but that's not the point of it and there are much better options for those that Valve and the big three still can't compete with anyways.

>>389855539
Its like 6/10 territory. The good features are nice, but it has a lot of fucked up design features.
The angle of the left stick is the best feature of the controller, and everything else can't really keep up with it.

>>389852209
I can played Automata exclusively with my steam controller.

Of course I didn't use the gyro, I hate that stupid fucking gimmick.

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So Nvidia released an updated version of their controller. It's pretty sweet actually. But it's also complete shit at the same time.

Feels great and the controls are all responsive. But the problem is its under their own software. So it can't work in most games as it doesn't read as a basic controller.

Like the left analog stick will have down and right show up as X and A and the left stick only works side to side unless you fiddle with it in steam big picture as a generic controller or again only play Nvidia supported games..

>>389862081
It's for shield, you're supposed to use it for android games.

>>389862586
Nvidia states its supported on PC.

>>389842846
How many EVO's have been won with a steam controller faggot? Go ahead, I'm waiting

>>389862649
Supported, yeah. It's not the reason they made it and obviously they still need to iron some things out. I am guessing it works much better with a shield.

>>389862649
That just means shitty Directintput something something.
Not real native Xinput.

>>389862698
Zeroes

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posting the next big step in gaming, screencap this

>>389862924
It actually doesn't support either out of the box, they actually force it not to. One guy found out that you can enable it on the first gen controller but not the second.

>>389863636
Are you one of those fat neck beards with those couch tables for playing with that?

>>389863636
This is analogous to having two track pads on the steam controller.

>>389863942
my thighs are fat enough to just use one on each leg

>>389863636
>No movement solution
Attach an analog stick to one of the mice and figure out how to make the mouse movable without chancing you moving the analog stick in the process and we can talk

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>Use a mouse region loadout on the Steam Controller
>Steam controller remembers where my mouse was and puts it back where I left it when I go back to normal mouse movement

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>>389842846
Wrong.

>>389865403
The stick goes in your mouth.

>>389865613
Steam Controller+WiiU pro is really the best combo

>>389865613
If it had gyro, back paddles and six face buttons maybe.

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This is the ultimate controller.

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>>389865845
>Make the best traditional controller of the generation
>Next Nintendo console has the worst traditional controller of the generation
>We will never get controller thats essentially the WiiU pro with a few extra bells and whistle
I will never not be bothered by this.

I like DS4 for being a pretty simple general purpose controller with all the fixings, build quality isn't even bad on the newer revisions. The D-pad still isn't elder god tier but its in a position that makes it actually usable compared to the competition. Plus you have all the options available without any dongles required, ranging from basic Dinput, built in steam support, and a really amazing Xinput wrapper.

Does the steam controller still crash big picture and the game? That's one of the main reasons it's collecting dust for me. That and it hates console ports

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>PC games on a TV
>Linux
>Unupgradeable small form factor PCs
>Touch controller
Did they actually think this was going to sell?

>>389867953
He did it as a temper tantrum response to windows 8 but ended up getting bored and decided to sit and collect dota cash

>>389867953
>Unupgradeable small form factor PCs
You can upgrade them, they are just like any other prebuilt.

>>389867953
The controllers are great. The Steam Link is nice if you have the connection for it.

Steam machines and the OS were a wholly retarded idea though. When you get down to it they're just differently branded prebuilt machines with a proprietary OS. Why the fuck would ANYONE want that?

>>389870564
Steam OS isn't proprietary, it's more or less just a pre-configured Debian.

>>389870979
except for all the proprietary Steam bits.
Linux: DRM Edition

>>389871094
That doesn't make the OS proprietary, just some of the software it comes bundled with.

>>389868169
It wasn't a temper tantrum, Gabe's concerns have been fully justified by the announcement of Windows 10 S, a product that Windows Fanboys have insisted could not exist and would be suicide for Microsoft, yet is now close to release.

Far from sitting back and just letting money come in Valve have taken a step back and have been investing in Linux and open source gaming infrastructure in general at a fundamental level with impressive results.
The Valve backed open source drivers for AMD hardware on Linux are now consistently 10% faster than the official Windows drivers or better.

Valve seems to be the only third party store vendor that will be fully ready for the affects that Windows 10 S will have on the market.