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What if there was an MMO where all beings and their environments were governed by that which is more divine than them, with humans at the very bottom; but faith in a being determined that being's divinity?

Then every player is a divine being, attempting to gain followers, and crush other religions.
Powerful players are perfectly capable of creating and destroying all life.
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>>389819886
alternate dimensions confirmed by bible!
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A fighting game centered around the Bible has been released! Who do you main?
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>>389820001
Archangel Michael
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>>389819959
Are Djinn are bros or foes?

What if we're in competition?
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>>389820178
>>389820027
>In the middle east, there is a common belief of the djinn
I bet I'd never have a friend like them
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>>389820001
I main a throne.
Beep beep motherfuckers
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>>389819886
So what/who exactly are Nephilim?
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Piss off Reddit
>>>/r/atheism
>>>/r/Rick&Morty
>>>/r/Catholic
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Anyone else gonna get the SMT clone El Shaddai sequel next year?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2UeTSFr_aE
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Asked too late in the other thread

I nneed help asap anons.

I have a series of really painful headaches that only last a few seconds. I only get them when close to my cat or lack of light while I'm on my computer

But I also get them when I think about certain things or something. I notice that whenever I think about religion and Christianity specifically, I get these headaches and they get more frequent when I focus on religion or specific like God and Jesus.

That's the only thing that I know that causes these headaches by thinking. I sometimes get them when I think about other stuff but I don't know what thought triggers them other than religion.
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>>389820274
These angels of peace are getting out of hand!
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>>389820338
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>>389819886
>Flaming, rotating rings covered with eyes.
That's terrifying
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>>389820338
You're so stupid it hurts.
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>>389820328
They are the children of women and the sons of god (angels), who broke the rules and decided to impregnate human women. And later were cast down and became fallen angels.

In the bible, they were said to be a race of giants. But some say "giants" is a mistranslation. And it really is supposed to be "powerful", so I guess they're super-humans.
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>>389820470
>>389819254
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>>389820536
Is that what the weird stone giants in Moses were?
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>>389820001
Leviathan, unless Moses can throw frogs like pikmin.
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holy shit seraphim are fucking faggots
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>>389820416
why did they tone down the gay
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>>389820593

>>389820121
>>389820325
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>>389820619
You mean in the movie Noah? Yea, I suppose, but they weren't exactly accurate because in the movie they were just fallen angels that became weird golems.
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alright so which one is the most powerful class
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>>389820486
>>389820530
>Dude religious MMO's lmao
Again
>>>/r/atheism
>>>/r/catholic
>>>/r/Islam
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old thread
>>389801943
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>>389820001
SAMSON
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>>389820536
>And it really is supposed to be "powerful", so I guess they're super-humans.
Yeah I think another line said they were the "heroes of old" or something like that.
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>>389820001
Time to smite these edgy Lucifer shits with Michael
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>>389820762
>one of the most interesting threads on /v/ in quite some time
>"lol you're all reddit because you're talking about religion"
end your life as soon as possible please
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>>389820762
>>>/r/the_donald
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>>389820001
I'd pick Ziz.
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>>389820621
What were the Leviathan's abilities again?
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>>389820536
This begs the question, were the human females raped or did they want it? This is very important to me.
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>>389820762
>being this stupid
Also isn't reddit the site known for being filled with fedorafags, and edgelords? You'd probably fit in there.
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>>389820001
The Demi-urge
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>>389820536
Sounds like a version of guys like hercules in roman mythology.
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>>389820869
>Yeah I think another line said they were the "heroes of old

really reminiscent of Hercules and other demigods.
Doesn't surprise me if the Olympians were fallen angels, they were petty and vain creatures.
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>>389819886
What do these guys do all day?
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>>389820975
Tsunami and Blizzaga
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>>389821045
Yep, could be the same phenomenon but observed through different cultures if true.
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>>389821092
Praise God and guard???
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>>389820998
>Maining the boss character
So you're gonna be THAT guy?
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>>389820536
if they were so powerful how come they are dead
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>>389820001
God's right hand man and personal prosecutor of humanity, El Satan
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>>389820963
I want to ride Ziz!
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>>389821240
God decided that they were faggots and smited them
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>>389821092
I knocked on the pearly gates
Neatly side-stepping the long queue
Waved hi to St. Peter
Who checked my card and let me through
I smiled
Threw my hands in the air
Laughed
And got arrested
The said 'hey man, you're in the wrong place
You behaviour is a disgrace
Here we pray every hour
On the hour
Read extracts from the Bible
And look solemn
What says I, no party
No party
Let me out
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>>389821136
>not mabufudyne and sea of chaos
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>>389821240
I think they say somewhere that they were hunted or genocided because they were atrocities.
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>>389821240
Does death even exist? In Christianity you just respawn somewhere in the afterlife
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>>389821159
I expect every religion with gods to have a concept of half-gods. It's an easy leap to make.
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>>389820892
>>389820906
>>389820991
I'm sorry, is this /v/- Religion
No, it's for video games
Fuck off with your shit
>>>/r/atheism
>>>/r/catholic
>>>/r/jews
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>>389820975
He's big
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>>389821351
>it's for video games
/v/ is only good at off-topic threads and it applies to every board on here.
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>>389821351
We're talking about how to make an Old Testament game, why don't you go complain about the waifu threads instead.
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>>389821348
Difference is, angels are not gods. You could even argue that the greek/roman pantheon were not gods either. Because even within their own hierarchies, existed omnipotent singular gods. They were deities, I think it's a more appropriate term.
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>>389821348
Gilgamesh was half god.
Jesus was half god.
the hero of the Volsung saga was half god and also he nailed his sister.
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>>389821445
>>389821445
>>389821445
>>389821445
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>>389821351
Do you actually come to /v/ for the riveting console war debates?
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>>389819886
>another game where god is the final boss
How many of those do we have now
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>>389820619
the nephilim would have been the children of those things with women
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>>389821347
technically you stay dead till the rapture where you're judged
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>>389821092
Whatever God tells them to do. Angels are only semi-sentient.
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>>389820001
Metatron, with a pocket Horseman of Conquest. Babylon is shit waifu btw
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>>389821605
Not enough
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>>389821535
>Jesus was half god.
well, according to most christians. Jesus is 100% human and 100% god.
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>>389821347
Pretty sure Death and the Grave are actual legit spirits.
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>>389820536
what about the children of man and daughters of god? tell me that's a thing
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>>389821347
You don't die. Only your body dies.
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>>389821693
That's 200% you cumguzzler
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>>389819886

So what do thrones actually do? What does it mean by 'contemplating gods power and judgement'?. Like they just hover in place forever thinking to themselves "Gee, God sure is powerful and judicious"?
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>>389820990
Angels are literally a level above us and shapeshifters, so they probably did.
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>>389821502
Angels are gods by the definitions of most other religions. They're not that different from the roman gods. Paranormal superhuman entities.
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>>389821347
Heaven and afterlife is a new testament kind of thing. In the old testament and jewish religion you just die.
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>>389821693
Sounds like Christcucks can't into math.
>>389821750
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>>389821750
You can be fully God and be fully human.
Nowhere does being God require you not to be human. It's just that none of us meet the conditions for being God.
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>>389821747
Yeah exactly, so if you get killed by god you just respawn somewhere else in the afterlife>>389821750
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>>389821750
He was God in human form. God's CaC.
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>>389821750
>>389821826
He's aware of this. Many Christians believe Christ was fully God and fully man. 100% both
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>>389819886
nah, what would be better is a post apocalyptic game where you survive the tribulation( the seven seals, seven cups, seven trumpets and seven bowls) and at the end you get to choose whether to fight with or against jesus
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>>389821823
Mormons are less funner than jews.
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>>389821750
>>389821826

>That's 200% you cumguzzler

I'm aware, I'm just passing on information.
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>>389821494
Yet /a/ does not have this problem
>>389821501
>why don't you go complain about the waifu threads instead.
Because waifus are apart of a videogame, a collection of books aren't video games faggot
>>389821548
Sony and Nintendo are vidya, whatever your beliefs or concepts aren't
Fuck off redditors
>>>/r/atheism
>>>/r/catholic
>>>/r/jews
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mormon shill ama
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>>389821881
That doesn't make sense you can't be above 100% of something.
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Would God have multiple battle forms?
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>>389821924
what stats do the magic panties gie you?
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>>389821884
>Hopeless boss fight
Nah
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>>389821823
Interesting how the christians came to discover the existence of an underworld around the same time they were conquered by the Romans.
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>>389821924


What kind of planet do you get after you die? Can other people visit them?
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>>389821765
God feeds on prayers. The more people pray and believe in him, the stronger he is. This is a recurring trope on mythical deities like the monotheistic God of the abrahamic religions. One of his commandments is that you will love him above everything else.
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>>389821917
>>389820416 Then what is this?
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>>389821941
God would be a cutscene boss where you lose automatically.
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>>389821932
>100% God
>100% human
>"you can't be more than 100% of something"
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>>389822032

Correct you can not
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>>389821605
Not exactly.
In the described game, the top player would be fundamental to reality.
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>>389822032
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How much would you have to anger God, to have him put you on loopkill forever?
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>>389822017
A videogame which isn't the OP
You realize his right reddit?
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>>389821823
That's not true, is it? What about Sheol?
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is it true that god hangs out with satan and they make bets for giggles?

is he a drunkard?
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>>389821917
you and those like you are the reason /v/ is so shit
get ye gone
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>>389822032
The math checks out if God = human
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>>389822032

100+100=200
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>>389822053
but you can be 100% a son and 100% a fag dont you
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>>389821978
>Hopeless
are you saying you can't kill a god?
cause I think that has already happened
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>>389822092
It's a videogame about religion. Also why does this discussion trigger you so much? Unlike most daily threads people are actually discussing something.
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>>389822132

Does that make Jesus a fag and son?
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>>389822123
Suppose you have a brother.
You can legitimately claim to be 100% the son of your father and 100% the sibling of your brother.
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>>389822123
1/1 x 1/1 = 1
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>>389822123
wow its almost like god is an infinite being and exists outside our comprehension and doesn't have to abide by the scientific laws governing out universe
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>>389822142
>implying killing someone that wants to die is the same as killing someone that is literally omnipotent
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>>389821998
>God needs prayers to be strong
>he creates a race of barely sapient beings who can only pray to him
>this ensures he will never be powerless
God found the loophole
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>>389822101
When the Hebrew scriptures were translated into Greek in ancient Alexandria around 200 BC, the word "Hades" (the Greek underworld) was substituted for Sheol. This is reflected in the New Testament where Hades is both the underworld of the dead and the personification of the evil it represents.

If you go by Jewish scriptures and the old testament, there is no afterlife. The concept of a hell, underworld, limbo, etc, came from the intermingling of religions.
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>>389821445
What game is this?
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>>389822191
no i dont think
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So since jesus was a god, and jesus died, that means we can kill gods, right? I'm aware he was resurrected by another god, clearly need to kill both within a time frame to prevent circlejerk rezzing.
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>>389822101
that's just the rubbish tip where dead bodies are thrown to be burned
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>>389822107
>Book of Job
god bets that Job will succumb to the temptation of satan just cause
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>>389822110
No, it's you stupid redditors who want to start shitflingging over non-vidya shit on /v/
Fuck off
Fuck off with your shit
>>>/r/atheism
>>>/r/catholic
>>>/r/jews
>>>/r/islam
>>>/r/mormon
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>>389822195

You can't be both mortal and immortal at the same time.
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>>389822101
Sheol is more like Hades. Everyone goes there, and it's just sort of dark and quiet.
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>>389821889
Mormon purgatory is a planet two galaxies over that way.
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>>389822265
enjoy your ban you autist
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>>389822268
schrodinger's god
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>>389822217
One could make it interesting and thing of his angels as a failsafe in case humanity revolts against him.
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>>389822265
Where's the shitflinging anon?
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>>389822268
Who says that being mortal is a necessary component of humanity?
Adam and Eve were immortal until they sinned.
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>>389822239
Jesus was God but God wasn't neccesarily only Jesus. God was still in heaven while Jesus was alive. Not to mention that God is basically the overreaching logic of the universe so things would get very fucky if you even tried to kill Him.
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>>389819886
>MMO with that much power disparity between players.
Nah, it wouldn't work out. Unless of course the power that the players have is all window dressing and they don't actually get world-rending abilities.
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>>389821487
>shitty sleep paralysis bullshit
That shit is no joke man, I saw a tall dark figure standing in my room's doorway. he wore what appeared to be a trench coat and hat but I couldn't make out his face. The one thing that struck me aside from not being able to move was that he looked soaking wet, as if he'd just come in from out of intense rain. That was 2nd most terrifying moment of my life.
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>>389822293
>Hey buddy, I think you got the wrong afterlife. The mormon purgatory is two galaxies down.
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>>389821976
+3 protection
>>389821995
your planet is your dominion, i don't know the relation of your planet and it's place in the heavenly kingdom, and I don't know. I do know that you share heaven with your family if you had been sealed together in a temple.
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>>389822314
>Ban faggot redditors who are talking about non-vidya subjects
>Or someone who is telling tards about their off-topic shit isn't /v/
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>>389822376
>he wore what appeared to be a trench coat and hat
sounds like a shadow person
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>>389822268
But your body is what makes you mortal, if you do have a soul, you will exist after you die because it is not matter and therefore not limited by time and space
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>>389822265
we are discussing cool lore we can rip off and jam into our early access crafting survival devil may cry ripoff we are going to make in unity tomorrow night we have our own irc and everything how about you come by I will give you ops.
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>>389822363

They didn't sin it was predestined to happen. As god created everything and can control all as god is all powerful.
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>>389822376
A fedora?
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>>389822454
mods have been banning people like you for being obsessed with reddit, y'know
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>>389822235
Mamatoto. Don't be fooled by the screenshot, it's not actually a card game
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>>389822364
The fuck kind of definition of god do you have, holy shit
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>>389822457
>duurrr everyone i dont like is reddit
That's you anon.
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>>389822484
if god took a bite of the apple would he have become mortal?
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>>389822376
scary af dude, how did you snapped?
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>>389822542

If god willed it.
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What are some games where cool angels are my allies?
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>>389822457
Wrong guy. >>389822523
>>389822454
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>>389822364
>Jesus was God but God wasn't neccesarily only Jesus.
Exactly. Jesus is God, the Father is God, the Holy Spirit is God, but God is not Jesus or the Father or the Holy Spirit.
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>>389822484
It was only destined to happen thanks to the influence of Lucifer, exploiting humanity's latent power of choice and determination of destiny to contaminate them with sin.
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Ok, but where does Demonphobia fit into all of this?
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>>389822454
How is this Reddit in the first place
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>>389822542
i believe God wanted us to bite the apple, but not just yet, we needed to learn more
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>>389822484
God can control all but doesnt, He's where we get our free will from. no god = no free will.

>inb4 omnipotent
seeing the future isnt the same as causing things in the future to happen

also genesis isnt really meant to be taken literally but still
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>>389822374
You can actually have balanced games with immensely powerful players.
Simply have all players start as servants of a powerful player.
They can compete with each other, but the powerful player can't compete with them because that would be stupid.
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>>389820620
For one, Lucifer is a latin word not a name, it means light-bearer. Which was latin translation of the hebrew word הֵילֵל hêlêl which is a verb "To shine".

In fact lucifer was a word used to describe Jesus himself at one point. It became popularized as a name as others have noted from Dante's Inferno.

Now as an adjective the word Lucifer means "Light-bearer" or "light-bringing". But as a noun it means "Morning star" or in poetry "Day" They use the word in reference to these, and referring to the actual Morning Star in the sky at various points. But doesn't refer to a fallen angel at most points.


Satan comes from the Hebrew word שָּׂטָן (pronounced "satan"), meaning "adversary", "accuser", or "enemy". The original Hebrew term is a noun/verb meaning “obstruct, oppose,”. It is almost always accompanied by the prefix "ha-" in Hebrew, meaning "the" in English - thus "the adversary", "the accuser", etc.

The word "devil" comes from the Greek διάβολος (diabolos - "accuser" - literally "one who throws across"), which is a fairly accurate translation of satan. It's used throughout the New Testament as an equivalent term for Satan, who by now has a proper name.

Lucifer, whether Isaiah was writing about the Devil or not, was clearly an enemy of God and His people - so he would have been "ha-Satan", the enemy. If Lucifer is in fact the Devil, he is both the enemy by the Hebrew definition and Satan as we know him.

So maybe Lucifer is the Devil, but there's nothing saying he is. And satan was most commonly just a 'title' given to those sent to test people in the bible. It wasn't always the same person. A satan was sent to obstruct/oppose individuals and test their faith.
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>>389820328
Donte and Vorgil.
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>>389822376
Could you at least scream?
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>>389822292
>The inhabitants of Sheol are the "shades" (rephaim), entities without personality or strength.[2] Under some circumstances they are thought to be able to be contacted by the living, as the Witch of Endor contacts the shade of Samuel for Saul, but such practices are forbidden
Sounds depressing.
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>>389822513
God is the supreme force of the universe and is responsible for all the "logic" within it. Everything that acts as it "ought" to does so because God determines what if "ought".
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>>389822597

If god is all powerful why did god give choice to to others unless the choice was gods will being all powerful means anything you have power over all including choices of others.
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>>389822542
eating the fruit didn't make them mortal, it just made them aware of their own mortality
knowing of good and bad, like god, means knowing enough about your own existence to experience existential dread
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>>389822637
it isn't
it's just that retarded kids trying to fit in blame reddit for everything, from why their toast burnt this morning to why no one likes them
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>>389822713
It's all part of his 13e57 degree plan for us all.
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Do angels have a limit to what their form can be?
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Have any of you ever read Casca?
It's about the Legionare who stabbed Jesus on the cross. He's forced to wander forever as a mercenary until the second coming.
It's pretty neat, and written by a green beret.
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>>389822793
The only limit is what God made them to look like or what God permits them to look like
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>>389820536
>sons of god (angels)
Literally every time the Bible mentions the sons of God (plural), it's talking about humans who believe on Him. Genesis 6:2 is referring to righteous God-fearing men who married heathen women, and had children who became legendary heathen kings and shit. There's nothing supernatural about it

also Matthew 22:30 and Mark 12:25 say that angels neither marry nor are given in marriage.
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>>389820470
I get light pressure in the front of my head between the brows when I meditate.
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>>389822713
>Free-will is the cause of its own movement, because by his free-will man moves himself to act. But it does not of necessity belong to liberty that what is free should be the first cause of itself, as neither for one thing to be cause of another need it be the first cause. God, therefore, is the first cause, Who moves causes both natural and voluntary. And just as by moving natural causes He does not prevent their acts being natural, so by moving voluntary causes He does not deprive their actions of being voluntary: but rather is He the cause of this very thing in them; for He operates in each thing according to its own nature.
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>>389822793
No, they're formless basically. It's a mindfuck to look at one and even worse to see the face of God
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>>389822457
>>389822673

I dont care what he was, that shit was terrible. I could see and hear everything going on around me. My brother was one room over playing videogames and I could hear him perfectly. I wanted say something but the only body parts I could move were my eyes.

>>389822572
It likely didnt even last that long, because I remember not being able to blink. Eventually I did and he was gone and I regained movement.

The whole situation was really disorienting.
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>>389822873
If it is in their nature it is truly free will?
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>>389822793
they're not matter so they're not limited by time in space, so no
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>>389820001
Metatron
Time to cleanse putrid casuals with the mere sight of my playstyle
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>>389819886
What the hell is with all the stupid bible threads lately
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>>389822656
But that's still giving one player so much more agency than another. in an MMO, I know I wouldn't like to know that the second I enter the game world, I'm doing work for another player who gets to reap benefits instead of working for myself for personal achievement.
It works in guild settings since you willingly subscribe to having a guild leader and the guild leader doesn't effect anything outside of the guild, really.
If a player has servants, and suddenly decides to fuck around, then they're ruining the game experience for a ton of other people.
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>>389822873
Aquinas, right?
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>>389822849
thats just your ajna chakra tingling. it means its working
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>>389822834
>>389822894
>>389822951
Also what is an Omni-Directional sword, some anon mentioned it earlier. What does it do?
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>>389822376
I had that once not long after a friend told me about how it happens to him daily, it seemed like it was more related to my heart to me though. It happened during a period where my heart felt uncomfortable and bloated as I tried to fall asleep and then right as I was drifting off it would suddenly pump harder and wake me back up. It was the standard experience for sleep paralysis though, paralyzed and suffocating and there was a definite figure standing over my bed but I couldn't make out any real details.
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>>389822949
If you control your heartbeat automatically, do you still control it?
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>>389823041

yes
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>>389822824
>eternal torment for one mistake
Basically the entire reason why God is actually an evil entity.
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>>389823021
its a sword that looks like its made of fire, that can strike from any direction
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>>389821351
God damn you are fucking autistic. This is an interesting thread about how to make a God of war type of game based on Christianity and the lore behind it and you keep spamming newfaggy Reddit btfo. We need an hero.
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>>389822967
we're having an interesting discussion m8.
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>>389823031
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>>389823021
judgement cut level 3.
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>>389822949
Free will only exist if there is a God. By claiming there is an infinite God who exist out side of whats observable and knowable, we are claiming there are components about Him we will never understand (ex: three persons in one God, 100% human AND 100% divine) If there is a God it would be possible for someone to have a certain influenced nature while having at least some free will.
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>>389822849
That's where I get my headaches which is usually around there. Sometimes, the pain is slight but there are also times where it's really noticeable.

They always occur around evening-night and I get very vivid dreams if I start having the headaches when I go to bed.
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>>389822707
That's heretical.
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>>389823086
So I could be standing directly infront of the user, and I'd still get stabbed in the back/destroyed from behind?
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>>389823153

Does that mean you could go against your nature?
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Thanks for the information about the Leviathan and Aquinas, anons. Time to write my story about a lewd leviathan monster girl
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>>389822590
so who created the universe? the alien father that is not god because jesus not born yet?
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>>389822967
what's with all the dumb frogposters lately
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>>389822085
Be a chaosfag
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>>389823201
something like that, yeah
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>>389823265
God made the universe
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God is a man of flesh and blood
Jesus Christ is his son
There is but one church, the church of jesus christ and latter day saints, for it was the church jesus himself instructed man to create, unlike any other. the apostasy is over because of this. there are twelve apostles and a prophet and they are the head of the church. The catholic church is the whore of the world and is full of idolaters and hedonists.
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>>389823076
Well a religious person would say that God's punishments are always just, and that we marely cannot understand them from our mortal vantage point.
But the realist in me looks to the story of Job and I have to think that God isn't a wholly good entity if he let a man suffer at the hands of satan to prove that the man would love God even after.
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>>389823289
>lately
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>>389823265
God as we cannot concieve of him. The God that is beyond our understanding.

>>389823190
How so?
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>>389822970
>gets to reap benefits
What benefits?
They're more infrastructure if anything, able to command all the laws of reality that you are subject to but unable to single-handedly manage all the fine detail.

It'd be pretty sweet being an angel working for a super-powerful demiurge, you get to run around killing cultists while they have to do stuff like carefully shape spacetime so that a demiurge in another universe can't have their angels or whatever fuck everything up.
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>>389823076
it really sucks, you didn't asked to be born and you have to suffer in hell all eternity just for not accepting Christ a saviour, not just pulling the plug and turning all dark but burning forever, sucks
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Which book would make the best video game?
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>>389822376
Christ's name hurts him.
Use it, and believe in it.
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>>389823356
The fact that he fell for such an obvious ploy by the devil that ends in the destruction of a just man's life proves in every single way that the christian god is just as flawed, if not more, than humanity.
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>>389823240
don't forget the horn engravings. one says "meanest in the sea" and the other says "300 miles long"
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>>389823228
To some extent, yes. Note how the quote I used not only says God made your actions natural but also voluntary. However, because of how the brain works. I would say there are some things you couldn't necessarily bring yourself to do or not do (ex: addiction)

I've struggled with the question of God and free will for a long time and don't claim to completely understand it, so what im saying may not be exactly right from a Theological perspective, but its just what I currently understand to be most true as of now
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>>389823104
>Boo Hoo Hoo, I can't fling shit with my off-topic crap like others
Play Dante's inferno then faggot, stop with your bullshit Reddit fedorafag bait
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>>389823402
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>>389822376
It was a spic who tried to steal from you.
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>>389823595
the Mahabharata
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The more you hear about sleep paralysis, the more likely you are to experience it.
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>>389823595
Exodus would make a good kind of city management type game where you played as Moses trying to establish the worship of God after escaping Egypt.
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>>389822978
yeye
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>>389823712
peppa that not truth
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>>389823635
God didnt fell, humans fell
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>>389823181
Somebody's third eye is opening.
Keep pushing anon.
Practice meditation.
Or
convince yourself that something is wrong.
Your choice.
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>>389823697
>looked soaking wet
Should have gone with wetback
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>>389823749
Yeah, humans are the only ones in the relationship trying to climb the cliff, god is just sitting at the bottom throwing rocks at the people trying to become better.
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>>389823526
>powerful player decides to PKing against another powerful player
>every weak player just starting out gets pulled along for the ride without ever having a say in the matter because the game forces them to follow a player who may be temperamental as fuck.

You also fall into the trap of the game becoming something entirely different once you ascend. I'd rather have NPCs have carefull constructed conflicts and clear goals rather than trying to force players into responsibility when they can't even reliably keep guilds together long enough to clear raids.
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So does omniscient mean all knowing?
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>>389823665
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>>389822912
>>389822376
I think that was the thing that plagued me a lot as a kid. I would have a horrible nightmare and wake up, completely paralyzed in my bed, unable to do anything, not even breathe. Felt like I was trapped inside my own body. It would cease eventually and I would go back to sleep afterwards, but it scared the shit out of me, there was one time where I really felt like I was going to die suffocating.

Nowadays, it happens very rarely, and doesn't scare me as much, since it only happens when I take quick naps and become more aware within my dreams, so when I get paralyzed, it feels more like just a nuisance.

Never saw anything weird when I woke up though, at least, not that I remember.
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>>389823851
I think it's more along the lines of being aware of everything ever than "knowing everything"
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>>389823534
see fate of the unlearned and some reading in the CCC

Pretty sure you won't be punished for not believing in God just because you can't logically conclude there is one.

To my understanding, you have to knowingly and completely reject God and his teachings, or knowingly and willingly live a life filled with sin without ever seeking repentance

I'm Catholic, so I'm only really speaking for Catholics
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>>389823784
Are you serious, anon?I always thought it had to do with allergies since my doctor said that or light.

But what gets me is that certain thoughts triggers the series of the headaches. The only thought that I know that triggers it is religion. I also know that a certain specific thought involving friendship triggers it too but I need to find the one that causes it.
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>>389822032
this is legitimately an early christian heresy isnt it? about whether jesus was half human half god or something like that
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>>389823824
well not everybody can make that climb, if you think it's too hard, maybe you arent worth for reaching it
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>>389823997
I dunno, but you'd probably get stoned
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I hear anons saying god was there at the start, but how? It hurts my head to think about it.
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So demons are just fallen angels, right? So what kind of angels rebelled? What do they look like now? If the ring-with-eyes things rebelled and had their angel status rebelled, would they still retain their physical appearance?
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god did not create the universe. He was born in it. he understands it perfectly.
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>>389823971
Your doctor isn't going to tell you that you're on a spiritual path, as that is outside of is probable scope of knowledge.
Read into it, and you'll find the truth.
If you read about meditation from yogis, you'll find that they describe something similar to what you are talking about.
However, I don't know the total detail of your situation, and it very well could be allergies.
Find out for yourself.
And practice meditation, as it is the bridge of connecting knowledge and experience.
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>>389824089
The Universe created God so God could create the Universe
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>>389824089

What created god?
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>>389824031
No, you see, I'm actually trying. God ain't shit. He's awful and worse than all of humanity, but like hell is he going to let any of us try to be good people.
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>>389823997
There are many Christological heresies.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/standingonmyhead/christological-heresies
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>>389824154
Wouldn't "The Universe" then be God, by definition?
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God is the universe and we are all a part of Him
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>>389824089
The fundamental attribute of God is that God exists.
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>>389824089
God decided the universe should exist and brought himself into existence after it did.
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>>389824248
What existed before god?
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>thought these threads were just a fun what-if thing like Deep Sea, SBURB, and KotH online threads
>realize it's just crossposters trying to convert more people in Christfags
God damn it.
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>>389824276
How do you draw a square circle?
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>>389824276
God.
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>>389824331
What created god?
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>>389821998

Wait, was God not always thought to be omnipotent? If you're a being of unlimited power you've no need to feed and can't become more powerful anyways.
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>>389824318
stop that.
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>>389824153
>very well could be allergies.
The only part that bothers me about that is that thoughts trigger them and it's not allegory season.. If I dwell on one thought deeper and think about it more, the headaches gets intenser

I also just started getting them 2 years ago. Honestly, my best bet is going on /x/.
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>>389823325
>>389823404
so it's the alien and not the god or at least not jesus god since he's not there yet. so how many god christian worship again?
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>>389823971
If anyone in this thread is serious, I'm killing myself tonight. I'll livestream it.
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>>389824349
God.

Nothing created God. His name is literally "I Am"
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>>389824218
The Universe is all of us or something.
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>>389824089
So according to the laws of motion, objects at rest tend to stay at rest unless acted upon by another object, while objects at motion stay in motion. Something had to put those objects in motion.

Also, matter and time HAVE to co-exist according to Quantum mechanics, and even Atheists like Hawkins admit that matter and time could not have always existed (you can't infinitely regress)

So something that exists beyond matter, which is limited by time and space, also has to exist beyond time and space.

Because this "something" exist outside of our idea of time and space, and therefor our comprehension, it has to be some form of higher power, also called God
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>>389824314
You missed the other threads that were like that
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Fuck the guy in the other thread
This is the thread's theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qO6LWQhvzRw
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>>389823997
Yes; Nestorianism is the heresy that jesus has two distinct natures, divine and human that are separate. Then there's another heresy which is te opposite; Jesus has one nature is divine and human combined.

The stance of the church is a kind of a have your cake and eat it too; jesus is one person in two natures, but those natures are essentially identical. Don't question, its a divine mystery that you wont understand till you die and see god in person
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all these RP fags posting shit like
'god created the universe'
'god feeds on prayers'

cringe material right there.
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Why is this thread auto saging do mods hate this thread?
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>>389824409
Those are all the same God, just in different aspects of Himself as we cannot comprehend Him as a whole.
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>>389824417
>>389824451
I don't think my human mind can comprehend that. So I just won't dwell on it too much.
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>>389824525
It's like thinking about what exists outside the universe.
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>>389824380
/x/ can get messy.
Just read up on third eye openings, try not to take it all too seriously, work on lowering your stress levels, exercise, and meditate.

Here's how I started meditation about three years ago.
Find a comfortable position, preferably sitting up (though laying down is fine, try not to fall asleep), close your eyes, and breath in through your nose and out through your mouth. Keep your attention on this breath.
Do this as long as you can without stopping.
Try and do it for 10 minutes.
Set an alarm if you need to in case you start to fall asleep.
Good luck anon.
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What the fuck do I need to read to get more of this crazy Old Testament shit?
I need to know.
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>>389824645
check out te book of enoch
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>>389824501
The red x is at the top of the page for a reason, dipshit.
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>>389824645
The Old Testament, Aquinas, etc.
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>>389824525
Its like the laws that dictate a three-dimensional universe (x,y,z axis) wouldn't have to dictate something that exists beyond the third dimension. So God creating the universe from nothing is possible because he exists outside of the third dimension. We can't think what a 4th or 5th dimension would be like, but we know I can exist thanks to math. Some Indian mathematician proved there were at least 27 dimensions but I forget his name.
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>>389824481
They're not identical. Jesus' humanity and deity are united without mixture or confusion.
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>>389824732

Srinivasa Ramanujan I think
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>>389824502
Mods are fedora tippers
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>the collection thread had its OP picture nuked for no reason
>this thread's been put on the autosage

The fuck's up with the mods today?
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>>389824950
It's not like this is a particularly good thread, anon
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Fuck i missed the other thread and this one's autosaging now
I mean, it's not too vidya but /x/ is fucked and everybody knows it
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>>389825013
>>389820750
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>>389825045
What's the fucking point if i can't join to the discussion
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>>389825175
Start a new one
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>>389824276
God-God
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>>389825212
It would just get nuked again
Maybe tomorrow
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>>389824318
you start with parallel lines that intersect and go from there
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>>389823076
If you honestly think that a human only has made one mistake in their lives you are only lying to yourself. We fuck up too many times, anyway, I can't believe it took a chinaman making a odd "game" to have a good thread on /v/
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>>389824350
YHVH was originally the god of righteous war in a pantheon, but he cannibalized the rest of the pantheon and used that power to retcon himself into being the creator of the universe
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>>389824645
the apocrypha
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>>389825359
There's nothing you can do that exists within human limitations that you can do to deserve ETERNAL torment.
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