Why won't Sega just do it?

>>389819349
>frightful idiots
>suits in charge
>at least half the old team is gone

Sonic 06...

I think they are at least trying with forces though

Sega isn't really in the business of good decisions.

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>>389819349
>xbox one

>>389819349
cuz sonic isnt fun

>>389819349
Who are white sonic and purple amy?

>>389819349
They already did in 2006 and it was a failure, just like it would have been a failure today and tomorrow and next year and a decade from now.

The Adventure series is garbage.

>>389819349
They did
It was called Sonic Heroes

>>389819553
>>389819447
>all post adventure and pre boost games are sonic adventure 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=496&v=qi5ToF3zNj0
TL;DW: Heroes and onward before boost games changed the physics and mechanics too much to still be adventure games.

>>389819604
This nigga gets it

>>389819349
Because the Adventure games objectively suck in most aspects and creating a fully 3D game with the contents of the game not being ass would cost more time and money than Sega would be willing to shell out for a title that could flop from name alone.

>>389819772
You could say the same about Adventure 2 when compared to Adventure 1.

>>389819857
The physics went mostly unchanged, it was the level design that was different.
The video explains this as well.

What the fuck went so WRONG with 3D Sonic games, /v/? How did a ragtag team of fan game makers overshadow a team of professional developers that have worked in the industry for years?

>>389819604
The main reason I was so disappointed with Heroes was because it WASN'T Adventure. An OK game in its own right though.

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>>389819349
You know what people asking for SA3 actually want.

>>389819772
>TL;DW: Heroes and onward before boost games changed the physics and mechanics too much to still be adventure games.

Not really. 06 is mechanically no more divorced from SA than SA2 is. They definitely all share the same basic structure.

It's just not a very good series and never really was, so abandoning it was one of the smarter choices Sega made. Adventurefags are just blinded by nostalgia because they were kids at the time, it's no more complicated than that.

>>389819957
I don't know, I thought Generations was pretty sweet.

Do you really want modern Sonic Team to make an Adventure game?

I just want the actual stories and the blue guys back.

>>389819957
Technology wasn't as good, they actually have deadlines to meet, and they have to make entire games. GHP wasn't even good and Utopia is literally a tech demo. It shows potential but that doesn't mean jack shit if the execution is poor.

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>>389819957
Corporate greed. Suits in charge of "Do we make a good game, or do we make a cheap game?"

>>389820087
Why not? It's not like the original two were any good either.

Where do you draw the line at Sonic Friends, /v/?

Just Sonic, No one else?
Knuckles and Tails to be the Classic 3?
The extended early cast, Amy, Nack, Chaotix Crew etc?
The SA1 cast, New Amy, Big?
The SA2 cast, Shadow, Rouge?
Or do you just say fuck it, bring on the furry friends?

>>389819772
literally reading an outline of a paper he never bothered to write for 60 minutes.
fuck this stupid piece of shit.

>>389820349
I don't care how many are included or created as long as their inclusion has a purpose and they aren't just there for the sake of being there.

>>389819447
>>389819553
>>389820021
>ahaha look at me mom I posted that 06 is sa3 again even though 06 has no more in common with both Sa1 and Sa2 then Heros and shadow do

Either Heros is Sa3, Shadow SA4, and 06 Sa5, or none of them are Sa3

>>389820329
(You)

>>389820040
Generations is insanely overrated. Boost gameplay is meh and the 2d sections are shit

>>389819546

White sonic is Silver, who is apparently some time traveling hedgehog from 06 because shadow wasn't ridiculous enough
Purple amy is I think called Blaze who came from one of the handhelds and apparently wasn't that offensive?

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There are no bad Sonic girls.

>>389819772
>9 minutes 25 seconds
>sonic's speed is never an interactive constant in these levels
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST

>>389820349
What >>389820412 said. I'd also prefer Sonic to have the limelight unless it's specifically a non-Sonic outing like Shadow's game.

>>389820506
Silver is literally Trunks the Hedgehog. It answers most questions about him.

>>389819604

I always knew this and the devs were going to call it that too but they feared alienating the PS2/Xbox crowd since it was their first multiplat Sonic title.

>>389820607
>Silver is literally Trunks the Hedgehog. It answers most questions about him.
He was even designed specifically to be Trunks.

>>389820532
Tikal

>>389820349
For 3d games, only Sonic or Shadow because only their gameplay is enjoyable.
For 2d sonic, knuckles, tails or blaze are ideal.

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>>389820349
I just want Blaze. As long I get her they can add or not add whatever characters they want.

>>389820532
You may be onto something. I hated Lost World, but I still very much would a Zeena.

>>389820490
I love how there's always one autist in these threads defending the Adventure games until his dying breath.

If they were released today they would be universally considered shit by critics and players alike. You know it, I know it, anyone who played them recently knows it, and this fact is never going to change. They're unpolished as fuck and most of the stages are just as tedious as many others of the worse platforming games from that era.

>>389819772
he wrote an outline, then wrote 5 different ways to say each bulletpoint, then read EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.

>>389819349
Because nobody bar two or three dogfuckers want it. Get your shit together, furfag.

>>389820689
best cat

>>389820490
06 has way more in common with SA and SA2 than fucking Heroes, you're just delusional.

>>389820021
sa 2 still resembled 1 enough to be its sequel. Heroes and onward have radically different and more linear level design and sonic had less momentum/control with each new installment.
>>389820385
>>389820559
not an argument, his analysis actually had a lot of thought put into it, you just can't stand to see your "adventure is shit, boost is the future" meme taken away.

>>389819349
They did and it was awful like 1 and 2

>>389820814
I play SA1 all the time and it's still my favorite Sonic game. My opinion of SA2 has dropped a lot, though.

>>389820349
Fuck it.
Just bring all the niggas.
Yes OC and infinite are invited too.

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>>389819505
>sonibronies

sonic adventure is a broken mess

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>>389820349
You don't "draw a line." Sonic has a tradition of introducing new characters since the second game in the series. I'd argue fear of introducing anything new is worse, because it means you have to keep seeing the SHITTY friends over and over.

If you want to lay a "don't" down for Sonic Team, it's that you DON'T cram them all into every game. One or two new characters during their introductory game, and then give them a fucking break unless there's a legitimate reason to bring back.

>>389820929
06 has a gay ass hub world where you can not even find the next level just like Sonic Adventure.

Man, one day I wanna study Adventure fags. Like, I want to understand how a person could enjoy shit so much.

Maybe sit them down at a table with a plate of literal shit to their left and bowl of ice cream to their right and see which one the subject will consume first.

>>389821030
My forces oc will be included too?

>>389821085
Not him but they do still introduce new characters in new games, so it's not like they haven't stopped.

>>389821074
This argument doesn't work unless you think the formula itself is broken, not the physics or something extrinsic that changes game to game.

>>389820993
>Heroes and onward have radically different and more linear level design

There is no "onward", 06 straight up has the EXACT SAME hub-to-level format that made the Adventure games fucking Adventure games. Stop trying to wriggle your way out of this.

And whoever made that video is just being disingenuous.

>>389821209
Who is your control group?

>>389820349
i've been playing sonic since the first game and i really don't care. i never found the existence of any of the characters to offend me. they're all pretty cool in my book. eggman is the only character that is truly essential though.

>>389821315
Eh, the well ran dry for a while there. But that's not really the reason it needs to be said. I said it because anons should stop asking them to stop introducing characters.

>>389821365
So did Unleashed, but that sure as hell isn't an Adventure game.

No chao garden = no Adventure

>>389820329
Weren't they the best rated Sonic games in recent times before Mania came out?

>>389821209
Cringe

>>389821365
>hub worlds are levels
>hub worlds make them the same game
Yea, and I guess mario 64 is a sonic adventure too because it has hub world to level format..
While I will admit this guy can be very redundant, that doesn't make him wrong, please stop replying if you just want to be contrarian instead of having an actual discussion

>>389820814
Most games released in that era were unpolished janky messes.

Hell, most of the issues Sa2 alone gets panned for SM64 also has just as bad or worse (camera and (under rather then over)senstive movement), yet nobody minds

>>389821150
Sa2 doesn't have a hubworld though, so you can't use it as an rguement for it being or not being sa3

>>389821596
To /v/ literally every 3D sonic game is a new version of Adventure.
Sonic Heroes? Nope, SA3
06? Nah, SA4
Unleashed? SA5 baybeeeeee

>>389821820
It's funny because Classicucks have a game just as bad as Sonic 2006, and it's actually named appropriately as the 4th game in the series.

>>389819957
The original sonic games are about momentum, you rarely outright die to a lack of momentum but you get much more options when you have some. People think this means SONIC MUST GO FAST and so they fuck up 3D games by making them narrow speed courses.

>>389821596
Unleashed is literally called "Sonic World Adventure" in Japan.

>>389821809
>Hell, most of the issues Sa2 alone gets panned for SM64 also has just as bad or worse

Now you're definitely going full retard.

>>389819349
They're piss scared and incompetent
Also a bunch of stupid gaijins just made the best official Sonic game in ages so now they're in panic mode

>>389821249
Everyone is invited.

>>389822129
>Unleashed is literally called "Sonic World Adventure" in Japan.

But Sonic 2006 isn't Adventure 3. Why do names matter all of a sudden? :^)

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When is the best Sonic character going to get his own game?

>>389819349
>silver
it doesn't even exist and I already hate it

>>389819349
They will resurrect the Sonic Adventure moniker sooner than later...and it will be terrible.

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>>389819349
>Silver
Fuck that.
Who /masterplan/ here?

>>389822129
And that shitty mobile-tier game was called "Sonic 4." I guess the lesson is put little stock in names.

Why do people pretend as if the Adventure series is good? The only good 3D sonic games are Colors and Generations.

>>389822317
I have a soft spot for eternal torture like that. It's one of my fears.

Fuck Eggman. I'd rescue the shit out of that thing.

>>389822207
I never said they didn't? Whether "Adventure" is in the name or not doesn't have anything to do with my point at all.

Are all Adventurecucks this stupid?

>>389819349
With Sonic Mania winning the hearts and minds of gamers and press alike, a 3D sonic game seems unlikely.

>>389822381
But you're the one who brought up Unleashed's Japanese name. Worked yourself into a shoot ya ding-dong diddly pinhead

>>389822473
Agreed. Only smartdevs know how to transition a 2D success to 3D like that RoR guy.

>>389822317
WOOO HOOO HOOO HOOO OH YEAH

>>389822331
So what would you put stock in, then, if not names? What makes an Adventure title an Adventure title?

Not that it matters I guess since they were both shit games anyway.

>>389821664
>H-He made fun of my precious Sonic Adventure games...

These games are so fucking bad, I legitimately want to know why people want more of them.

You would have to be autistic to enjoy them, and I don't mean that in a mean or insulting way. I mean you would LITERALLY have to be autistic to enjoy them.

>>389822528
I brought it up because you implied Unleashed "sure as hell" isn't an Adventure game, despite it having the same general structure and being intended to follow the Adventure format.

I mean, at this point you probably wouldn't consider something a """true""" Adventure game even if Sega came right out and developed an Adventure 3. Thank god they won't though.

>>389822604
You are a fucking nigger. Like a literal nigger. You are a braindead, worthless, ugly, miserable, disgusting nigger. You fucking disgust me. I want you to be shot dead multiple times until there's nothing but blood and gore.

>>389822604
SEETHING

Seen sunlight ya classicuck

>>389822776
The only thing Unleashed has in common with Adventure is the overworld, which was only in 1 Adventure game anyway.

And Adventure 7 is coming out this year, it has a serious plot with an edgy OC, 3 playable characters, and vocal themes. Only thing it's missing is the chao garden tbqhfam

>>389822558
The gameplay. The design philosophy. Even tone.

I just know someone's going to try and use this to claim 06 is an Adventure game. But really it only has some of that. Otherwise it feels more like a slightly edgier Disney movie.

>TFW you realize Adventurefags are bigger Sonic fans than Classicucks

Adventurfags play every type of Sonic game. Classicucks accept only 1 type, and want to play the same game over and over again. If you think 3/4 of the games in a franchise are bad, then you aren't a fan.

>>389823038
Again, what makes an Adventure game an Adventure game? Because SA2 really has fuckall to do with SA1 by your incredibly vapid reasoning.

There's no singular theme or mechanic tying the Adventures together, they were just simple 3D Sonic games with hub-to-level stage design that happened to be poorly polished. Stop making them out to be something special.

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Can we stop the "Adventurefag vs. Classicfag" meming? There is no reason 2D and 3D Sonic cannot be done well and exist simultaneously.

>>389823105
>I just know someone's going to try and use this to claim 06 is an Adventure game

I'm more baffled that you think 06 DOESN'T have that in common with the Adventures.

>>389822473
Abandoning the majority of your fanbase is a terrible idea anon.

Even if they wanted to it would be a waste since Mania's dev team was so small, it doesn't need all of Sonic Team working on it, hell, ST didn't even do anything. They simply gave guidance.

>>389819349
>Sonic 1 sucked dick but the formula got refined by 2 (also the mobile port fixed it)

>Sonic adventure 1 sucked Major Donkey Dick but the formula got refined by adventure 2

weird coincidence

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>>389823279
FUCK OFF, SONIC CAN ONLY BE 2D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SEGA NEEDS TO FUCKING FIRE EVERY MEMBER OF SONIC TEAM AND ONLY HIRE TAXMAN AND STEALTH!!!!! MANIA SEQUELS ARE ALL SONIC NEEDS!!!!!!

FUCKING ADVENTUREKEKS RRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>389823279
I propose we halt hostilities until the last boostfag is disemboweled.

>>389823247
This was obvious for a long time Anon

>>389823279
>There is no reason 2D and 3D Sonic cannot be done well and exist simultaneously.

You're right, that's why we have Classic and Boost. :^)

>>389823365
It has some surface level similarities, like a few playable characters. But tonally it is really out of sync. It doubles down on Dragonball and throws in a Disney princess and a love story for good measure.

And the objective never really changes, even if the characters do. You're still trying to get from point A to point B, and that's pretty different from Adventure.

I've never read any of the archie comics, how does it portray staple characters like Knuckles, Tails, Amy, Shadow and everybody else?

>>389819349
Sega's probably having a meltdown because the game made by bakagaijins is more well recieved than the grorious nippon games they've been making for the past decade

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>>389823279
Agreed, especially seeing as both 2D and 3D games had some major duds and gems.

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>>389823554
I know people jerk off the comic a lot, but it really does have the best versions of any sonic characters.

The head writer even writes characters well that he doesn't even like.

>>389823845
>CD

Uh oh, prepare for massive classicuck butthurtism

>>389823671
everyone, and i mean literally everyone has garbage taste and wouldn't know a good game if it slapped them in the face. i think at this point nips have realized this and don't give a fuck and will just continue to make their glorious games and do whatever it is that they feel is right.

>>389823856
Are you implying that he doesn't like Bean? I thought he just didn't like WRITING for Bean, because of the pressure to be funny all the time.

>>389823552
The objective thing was literally the only significant difference and any stage in Adventure 1/2 that didn't involve going from the start to the end was objectively worse.

Like I really don't know what you're even trying to say anymore. If Sega came out with a legitimate SA3 today and just ONE thing about it was different structurally, you're kind of suggesting you'd just reject that as an Adventure title too. SA1 and SA2 had some pretty major differences themselves.

Again, there's no special unifying element for these games. They just made some 3D Sonic games and named them "Sonic Adventure" at the time, it's that fucking simple.

>>389819349
Sonic adventure was pretty bad, that's why.

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>>389823965
Oh no, I just don't have any good pages of the Babylon Rogues.

>>389820532
I think Elise is cute, the design is fine it's just the cutscenes don't do her favours sometimes

>>389823845
I don't see how people can think CD is a straight up bad game, it's weaker than, say, Sonic 3 & Knuckles, yeah
But it's still a good game
A bad game has to be overtly badly designed, CD is not

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>>389823923
CD is overrated as hell with shit level design, a poorly implemented time travel gimmick, and buggy physics (see pic related)

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>>389820687
>For 3d games, only Sonic or Shadow because only their gameplay is enjoyable.

I think Blaze deserves at least one more shot at 3D. The only 3D game she was in 06 and that game was broken as fuck (though even then Blaze still often gets called out as being the best character to play as in the game).

>>389820532
Elise

>>389820349
Tails, Knuckles, Amy.
The only three enemies should be Eggman, Shadow, and Metal Sonic.
Everyone else is fucking pointless.

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>>389824041
Eh, it just aged poorly.

But what's baffling to me is that no one will admit it

It actively makes me cringe seeing how far people go to defend Sonic Adventure.

>>389824014
>The objective thing was literally the only significant difference
But, like you've already conceded, it is significant.
>and any stage in Adventure 1/2 that didn't involve going from the start to the end was objectively worse.
Opinions. Don't get me wrong, I hate fishing with a passion. But if the objective is always to get to the end, why would you play anyone other than Sonic all the time? He's the one who is GOOD at getting from point A to point B and in the fastest time. But also you have game modes that challenge you like trying to get lock ons for points, and sure the finishline is there, but your means of getting the best rank are different. I think that's probably the best method. Game modes where you have to do different things along the way, if you care about ranks or unlocks or what have you.

>>389824256
I play SA1 regularly and still love it. I can't help but wonder if those scores are impacted by shitters who somehow manage to fall through loops and floors; feats I've never managed in almost 20 fucking years of playing it.

SEGA doesn't have the right staff to make Adventure 3 anymore.

When they made Heroes it was a huge shift for SEGA in general because they weren't used to making games on non SEGA hardware, it's been a rough road since.

Adventure 3 will only happen if the fans step up and show SEGA it can be done like how Taxman brought back 2D Sonic with the iOS ports/remakes of Sonic 2 and CD that eventually lead to Mania.

The Adventure games also have lukewarm reception, and SEGA never figured out how to make a 3D Sonic that wasn't filled with a bunch of weird gameplay ideas just to pad out game length and justify retail price. Forces has a combination of gameplay styles because of this exact reason, and a boost only Sonic game would be too be laborious for development because of the huge levels it would require SEGA to make.

You don't want Adventure 3, you just want a generally good 3D Sonic game for once. Trust me.

>>389824371
Also, those re-releases came out at the height of "dude Sonic was never goood xDDDD". Mania would probably get a score in the 70s by the standards those reviewers hold Sonic to.

>>389824256
What are you talking about? Loads of people will admit that the Adventure games have aged like milk.

>>389824014
>If Sega came out with a legitimate SA3 today and just ONE thing about it was different structurally, you're kind of suggesting you'd just reject that as an Adventure title too.
You're kind of slippery sloping on me. 06 is a significant departure. If a new "Sonic Adventure 3" came out and it was that different from A1 and A2, yeah I might reject it as "not a true sequel." But the problem comes in that you can't prove that I'd be wrong. You haven't told me what aspect would have changed, or if I'd be wrong to reject it, so this line of questioning ultimately falls flat and you're just being overly dismissive.

>>389824256
Sonic adventure is like a B movie. It's poorly done and constantly shits it's self but it's still fun while doing that. You can have an objectively bad game that's still enjoyable to play

>>389824371
Well I can shed some light here, Sonic Adventure DX for the Gamecube is buggier than the international Dreamcast version.
This is because when doing the remake they used the original Japanese version as a base. Oops.

As for Sonic Adventure 2 I think it was the lack of changes that impacted scores.

And after that 06 retroactively changed how people viewed the Adventure games.

>>389824512
Yes but not enough, or even "they were good when they came out."

>>389824636
I mean, you can't honestly say SA1 is only 2 points (Out of 100!) better than 06. Whatever reason it is, those reviews are total shit.

>>389824636
>And after that 06 retroactively changed how people viewed the Adventure games.

And let's not forget how they affected future games. I recall people bashing on Unleashed and Colors, claiming they were worse than 06

>>389820490
>this faggot

SA3 isn't only SA3, it's the exact SA3 everyone asked for. You only play as hedgehogs. The Adventure games were just as horrifically janky, broken and terrible. HD graphics and loading times in '06 just made it more glaring. Take off your nostalgia goggles.

Because Sonic Adventure and Adventure 2 are garbage.

>>389819349
Because Mania exists and hopefully they realize it's how the series is always meant to be from now on

furfags gas yourselves

>>389824337
>But, like you've already conceded, it is significant

It's not THAT significant though, certainly no more significant than SA2 lacking a hub world compared to its predecessor.

Adventure and Adventure 2 were just names for the first two "proper" 3D Sonic games. That's it. The shift from those to later games in the series like Heroes or 06 is really not much different than the shift from the first title to the second. There's no concrete central element here that isn't entirely fan-driven.

>>389819349
Stealth should be the director, or at least a producer.

>>389820349
Good:
Sonic
Tails
Knuckles
Amy
Tikal
Shadow
Rouge
Espio
Vector
Metal Sonic

Bad:
Big
Silver
Cream
Blaze
Sticks
Marine
Charmy Bee
Jet
Wave
Storm
Deadly 6
Chaos

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>>389820349
Good:
Sonic
Tails
Knuckles
Amy
Shadow
Rouge
Omega
Blaze
Eggman

Bad:
Everyone else

>>389824540
>06 is a significant departure.

No it isn't, and you still haven't explained how it would be any more significant a departure than SA2 was from SA1.

>>389824741
>The Adventure games were just as horrifically janky, broken and terrible.
Adventure 1 and 2 were only slightly clunky, 06 is a nightmare.

In SA1/2 the physics don't shit themselves every minutes, you don't do multiple asinine side quests, you don't get sent through the level geometry frequently, Knux and Rouge never get stuck on walls, and Sonic actually has a sense of momentum.

Comparing Adventure 1/2 to 06 is like comparing the Spyro Trilogy to Enter the Dragonfly.

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>>389824987
>omega
>blaze
>good
People like you should be euthanized

>>389819349
I don't think there is enough story to make a third game. chaos is dead.

>>389825115
>In SA1/2 the physics don't shit themselves every minutes
>you don't get sent through the level geometry frequently
>and Sonic actually has a sense of momentum

Classicfag here, and AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You've got to be fucking kidding me

>>389825171
faggot

>>389825315
fuvk you

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>>389824812
>It's not THAT significant though
Uh huh. Well I guess I can see why you say that now that you noticed it almost gave me a footing.

Even Heroes was a huge departure from Adventure's formula. What changed between Adventure 1 and 2 that is as big as introducing a game changing 3-team member rotating mechanic, slowing down combat to be about arenas and health bars, and always having a team of characters who can do everything at the same time? There really shouldn't have been 4 teams if they all function the same.

All that changed between 1 and 2 was the hub world removal, and choosing a story to play which chose characters for you instead of marathoning the one of your choice. I guess it dropped a few game modes, but all the ones that remained existed in some form in Adventure 1.

You know I've been modding 06 and emulating it on xenia, and its actually not bad once you mame mach sections, snowboard sections, and elise sections, just sonic's regular mode.

The levela become 10x more enjoyable.

>>389825283
You don't though, your sense of perception is warped by what you want to believe. Look at any playthrough of the game.

And yes, Sonic actually does have more significant weight to him.

Spindashing and air dash can be used to gain speed quickly, and that speed lasts. You can spindash off slopes to go really high and far for some nice shortcuts.

You can't do anything like that on 06. In 06 Sonic feels incredibly static.

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>>389820349
Everyone except Big and Silver can stay.

>>389825473

I remember seeing Xenia '06 footage a while back and the graphics looked like a clusterfuck. Does it look fine now?

>>389825482
>You don't though

Not him but yeah actually you do

Playing a Sonic game with good graphics and a story was really neat when I was 11 but they're fucking awful games

>>389820532
The princess chick from 06 and the catgirl from the OVA beg to differ.

>>389825473
>having to mod a fucking atrocious game just to make it better than terrible

the autism of 3D sonic fags knows no bounds

>>389825008
>you still haven't explained how it would be any more significant a departure than SA2 was from SA1.
I have actually. Follow the reply chain, if you wish to join in please.

>>389825445
>Uh huh. Well I guess I can see why you say that now that you noticed it almost gave me a footing.

No, I was actually conceding with your point in regards to it being a "significant" departure, I just don't think it's any more significant than the manner SA2 changed up its stage structure completely from the first game.

They're all still the same basic shit at their core, and if anything 06 actually has some things in common with SA that SA2 doesn't.

>>389825585
You do but it happens nowhere near a frequently as it does in Sonic 06. In a regular playthrough of Sonic's story it might happen to me two times tops.

>>389825549
Yes everything is fine now, theres a special build specifically for Sonic 06

https://youtu.be/Fb0TJT4f73k

Make sure to use the Vulkan patch(cache.arc) and drop it into the right place in your 06 folder.

Also heres the iso:
https://mega.nz/#!vRtgVKhT!h64z453Co7purh6SEB19DP_fF47HsZsQwSZvVmZDk1o

>>389825670
Calm down bettyboy, you got your Sonic Mania game. Go fuck off to your splatoon or life is lame threads.

>>389825728

Damn, nice. Does Xenia improve load times a bit or can I expect this to be "faithful"?

>>389825802
Fuck yeah, load times are super quick.

>>389825482
>Look at any playthrough of the game.

I don't need to when I can just play the damn thing

The physics and momentum are absolute fucking garbage in Adventure AND there's way too many stage-clipping glitches, don't even get me started on the other bugs

>>389825684
>They're all still the same basic shit at their core, and if anything 06 actually has some things in common with SA that SA2 doesn't.
Such as? You better not leave it at "Hub world" because that is superficial as fuck.

06 feels very different from Adventures 1 and 2. Like we've already covered, the method in which characters are handled is FUNDAMENTALLY different. The passing of the baton to run through areas as someone else is asinine. At the very least they should have had reasons to tag in. Even things like Shadow's vehicles felt like they were thrown in last minute just to justify the swap.

I'd argue more on the story side about why it's so different, but few people give a shit about plot in a Sonic game anyway.

>>389825890
What would be your solution instead of complaining like an absolute cuck dunkey?

>>389819546
characters that debuted in adventure 3 over a decade ago

>>389825890
I'm calling bullshit on that

>>389825728
This is neat. Patches and mods could actually fix Sonic 06

>>389825998
>Blaze dubued in 06
At least be knowledgeable about the thing you're trying to shit on.

>>389819349
the only good parts out of adventure series were sonic/shadow + chaos garden from 2

>>389826028
This just made me think, if fans could put out a big mod that polishes Sonic 06, it will likely get covered in the gaming media. It could do a lot to fix the reputation of Adventure-style Sonic.

>>389826028
Yep, theres also a topsecret modding discord that im in, just look up volcano the bat on youtube and join his discord, then once youre in he gices you an invite to the official one.

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>>389825230
>hating on best robot and best cat

Sounds more like you should be euthanized.

>>389820349
I don't care how many friends they have as long as they're fun to play.

Why cant we get another 3D game without bullshit mechanics.
Fuck boosting.

>>389826084
You would better off making Adventure 1/2 hacks.

Honestly, I'm not even joking.

>>389825482
>>389825585
>>389825890
This is literally turning into an "is not, is too" argument. Nobody's gonna make any headway with this.

I personally really want to see a stream of SA1 and 2 where an Adventurecuck and someone who thinks they're trash can argue in real time over actual game footage. This would probably squash a lot of dumb arguments really fast.

>>389825856

Ahh shit, gotta give this a shot. Thanks man.

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>>389826160
>best robot
That's not e102 OR metal sonic
>best cat
That's not Honey

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>>389826160
>best robot

>>389826262
>I personally really want to see a stream of SA1 and 2 where an Adventurecuck and someone who thinks they're trash can argue in real time over actual game footage. This would probably squash a lot of dumb arguments really fast.
Hell yeah that sounds great actually, I'd be down for that.

>>389825964
>You better not leave it at "Hub world" because that is superficial as fuck

Nah, you're just being arbitrary as fuck at this point because deep down you understand that there's no magical underlying element in the Adventure games that other games lack. They were just the first 3D Sonic games and that's it.

Your only real argument so far is "oh but the way they handled the characters is different" but the same holds true for SA2 compared to SA1, where fundamental gameplay mechanics were changed altogether for certain characters to accomodate for brand new ones, not to mention that others (like Big) were taken out altogether.

It's just Sonic Team making new 3D Sonic games, there's not some grand purpose for them deciding not to call them "Adventure" anymore (even though they actually did do that with Unleashed).

>>389826125
Isn't there literally an 06 remake project being built from the ground up in Unity though? A mod seems kind of redundant.

>>389825473
Hi melpronto.

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>>389826160
>Omega and not e102
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2sOpyF1nF4
>>389826285
>Metal and not Mecha

>>389826408
The remake is far from done, this is to tide you over.

>>389826445
I'm not mega-homo-ponytail-man

>>389826363
>you're just being arbitrary as fuck
So you really can't name anything else. Low effort.

>where fundamental gameplay mechanics were changed altogether for certain characters to accomodate for brand new ones
The "new characters" are both clones of existing ones. Explain to me what you think fundamentally changed for Sonic or Knuckles to allow for Shadow or Rouge. If you can't even vocalize your issues I'll assume there are none.

>>389826064
ah sorry i forgot rush came out first

>>389824052
This is one of the few story arcs that make me regret the death of Archie Sonic. Good riddance otherwise.

>>389826329
Once this hurricane business blows over (heh) I'd be down for helping to organize that. Don't know if it'd just be advertised via a /v/ thread, but it's something to think about. What side would you be taking, out of curiosity?

>>389826623
Well, the side that the adventure games don't have frequently occuring bugs like Sonic 06

I want the last game I ever play to be Sonic Adventure 3, and I want to play it on my deathbed as some girl with J cup tits, in a tight rouge cosplay gives me my last blowjob.

>>389826526
>So you really can't name anything else

I don't really need to, honestly. We're talking about central structural elements of the game, so this suffices about as much as "muh objectives".

>Explain to me what you think fundamentally changed for Sonic or Knuckles to allow for Shadow or Rouge.

I actually meant Tails and Eggman, which, again, is all I really need.

Or are you unironically implying that those garbage ass Knuckles segments are what "define" an Adventure game? For fuck's sake, quit grasping.

>>389826742

I don't think you'd need the girl around if the soundtrack alone can do about the same thing.

>>389826896
Don't you fucking talk about my fucking deathbed fantasies anon.

>>389826789
Why are you such a nigger? Drop everything and answer me this

>>389825890
you're fucking wrong.

the adventure 1 and 2 physics are literally perfect. it's a sensible mix of momentum and weight. 06 has so many clunky, slow changes to it that it could barely qualify as the same series.

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>>389826789
>We're talking about central structural elements of the game
>choosing a stage by walking through a door or a button on the menu is the core of the game!
Right.

>I actually meant Tails and Eggman, which, again, is all I really need.
What difference does it make if you play as Tails in a mech, Eggman in a mech, or a robot? This isn't rhetorical. Break it down for me why you thought this difference in gameplay style constitutes the same difference as the fundamental shift of characters running around stages doing nothing but what Sonic always does vs. character having varied objectives, in other words the VERY core of the fucking Adventure games?

>For fuck's sake, quit grasping.
I should break out laughing, this coming from you. But I'm more tired of the bullshit you're feeding me.

>>389820010
Underrated post.

>>389820908
That's not Honey.

>>389826716
Shoot, I'm an Adventurecuck too though. We need somebody who hates them but can also articulate themselves in real time. What service would you like to trade contact info for?

ITT there are two types of people. The first type is retarded delusional niggers that are chimping out because they're braindead and the second type are still niggers but aren't chimping out as much as they aren't as braindead.

>>389824741
>You only play as hedgehogs
Seems you didn't actually play 06

>>389827306
Discord would be fine

I. Fuckign. wish.

>>389819349
Because Sonic Adventure was shit. Try playing it now. Unless it was your first sonic games they're almost unplayable

>>389827137
>Right

The hub world is a significant gameplay element established in Adventure, yes. Adventure 2 lacks this element. Why you're having THIS much trouble acknowledging this is completely baffling and honestly hilarious.

If you want to think varied objectives was somehow the one magical central underlying recipe that makes an Adventure game an Adventure game, fine, congratulations, you found... uhh, *something* I guess. But they obviously did away with that for a reason -- namely that it was trash from a gameplay perspective and detracted from the main reason people played a fucking Sonic game.

Please tell me you aren't trying to insinuate fucking Knuckles or really anyone besides Sonic was remotely fun in those games.

>>389820607
>>389820675
Wait just a fucking minute

>Sonic
>Dumbass protagonist who is best at everything and everyone unconditionally loves
>Goku

>Knuckles
>Black guy, initial villain
>Piccolo

>Shadow
>Edgelord cunt rival
>Vegeta

>Silver
>Faggot from the future
>Trunks

>Tails
>Fuccboi
>Krillin? Yamcha?

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>>389827707
>namely that it was trash from a gameplay perspective and detracted from the main reason people played a fucking Sonic game.
You must be right! Look at how much better of a game 06 is!

>>389827707
Tails and Gamma were without a doubt.

I'm not sure what your deal with Knux is though, it's a good way to use his abilities since he'd be broken otherwise

>>389820349
>Knuckles and Tails to be the Classic 3?

Bitch Amy existed before Knuckles

>>389827842
06 being focused on Sonic's speed-based gameplay from a CONCEPTUAL standpoint isn't at all why it was bad and has absolutely nothing to do with why it was such a shit game. Now you're just being a disingenuous cunt.

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>>389827771
Don't forget

>Chaos
Literally Perfect Cell. Even is called "Perfect" in his final form.

>Metal Sonic (in Heroes at least)
Liquid red eyed creature who "copies powers?" I mean, he said he did, though I don't think he ever demonstrated these "powers."

>>389819349
Why do people want Silver back?

>>389819349
Because nobody wants it. Nobody except you and your five kindred spirits on /v/. It's just a title, anyway. It's not like the current boost style Sonic games aren't just continuing what SA2's Sonic stages started.

>>389827490
Cool. Hit me up at WritersBlah#8147

>>389827771
>character turns yellow, gets spiky hair and can fly once he finds a certain amount of doohickeys
It's no secret that Sonic parodies things from popular culture, mate. Eggman has a death star.

>>389827954
>it's a good way to use his abilities since he'd be broken otherwise
This. 06 completely misused him and Rouge. Honestly, Emerald hunting would be fine with a better radar.

>>389827771
Welcome to Sonic 2.
Super Sonic
7 Chaos Emeralds

>>389828014
Well, personally I say "fuck Hedgehogs" and stop making the same mistake Dragonball did filling up the roster with Saiyans.

But even I have to admit his powers are cool, if they'd just smarten up about how to use them. Flinging crates is fucking dumb.

>>389827771
Guess what studio made the cutscenes for Sonic CD

>>389821596
>No chao garden = no Adventure
An autism simulator that is not at all a significant part of the game doesn't get to be a deciding factor.

>>389819349
The Adventure games aged like complete shit. 3D Sonic needs to reinvent itself yet again. Honestly, I just don't think SEGA is talented enough or knows what the fuck they're doing to pull it off. They really should just hand it off to Nintendo and just get the Mario guys on that shit.

>>389820676
I will fight you.

>>389828007
Disingenuous nothing. 06 has no grounds to say they did away with anything out of good game design decisions. It is flawed on every level. I defy you to tell me they did something the way they did because they were in touch with good game design.

06 is a good game when modded.