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Everyone on /v/ always argues over which Dark Souls game is better

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But which is the best Souls-like game?
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>>389812237
die by the sword
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>>389812237
Lords. Better art design. Code Vein will rape, though.
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>>389812237
Bloodborne.
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Just finished the surge, was hyped AF since I really like sci-fi games

Not crap, but really repetitive and unoriginal. I'll play DS3 again way sooner than I'll play the surge
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>>389812326
Is Ashen a souls like? I got the vibe off of it but I couldn't really tell by the trailer.
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Bloodborne for my personal pick.

>>389812552
Is that game ever coming out? I heard it's xbone exclusive and lost all interest.
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Sonic Mania
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Nioh
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>>389812491
I'm playing The Surge right now and it could use polish, but I really like a lot of the stuff it did like the limb targeting system and how you use it to gather resources.
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>>389812552
How the fuck am I supposed to know? Why'd you pick me?
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>>389812754
Yeah. That's the best part.
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>>389812754
How far have you played it?

There's like 3 enemy types the whole game, one of them being the humans with I guess five different weapon styles that make barelly any difference, and that's it.

And the last boss was a joke. Got him on the second try.

I liked it, but like "meh". Could have been playing something else gladly.
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>>389812825
Because Code Vein reminded me of it because they're both co-op
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>>389812689
Yeah I'd say Nioh too actually.
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>Ghost in the Machine Achievement
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>>389813064
Don't reply to me.
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>>389813057
Third area. Yeah the lack of variety of the enemies is getting dull.
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>>389812754
That's pretty much the only good part. The game itself is shit. Glad I pirated it.
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>>389813275
why not?

what's the meaning of life?
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Other Souls-Likes just try to copy Souls. Nioh takes the formula and adds to it.
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>>389813350
To procreate. :^)
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>>389813275
Why?
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>>389813376
Main character looks like a faggot. Shit armor design. Lords is better.
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Nioh's cool. Probably the best one to come out so far, but kind of overstays its welcome. I would like to see a sequel or another game with similar mechanics by the same team, though.

I thought Salt and Sanctuary was an okay attempt, but had it a lot of problems I noticed part way through my first playthrough and during most of my second playthrough, like the lack of a map in a game where a lot of the in game environments look similar, how weapon upgrades worked, how mechanics sometimes aren't well explained, a bunch of platforming in the later half of the game, instant kill enemies like Spindlebeasts, etc.

Only played Lords of the Fallen for a short while, but I could not stand it.

The Surge looked okay, but I haven't touched it yet.

Let it Die was pretty tedious and I never got too far in it because of that.

Code Vein looks neat but I'm still kind of disappointed in the art style because the teasers got my hopes up that it would look something closer to Dorohedoro instead of what we got, but whatever

Not sure what other ones are out there.
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>>389813405
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>>389813449
Fuck no. LotF was trash.
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>>389813449
Problem is lords have shitty floaty combat so it fails to even be a decent souls clone
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>>389812552
ashen is an open world passive multiplayer survival soulslike.

There's an open world with caves, dungeons and bosses, you can meet other players randomly and either kill or help them in coop. It's also got dark souls style combat, and traditional souls style dungeon crawling and bosses.


I'm pretty excited for it actually, it's the only soulslike not made by fromsoft that looks like it's any good.
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>>389813538
What? You just described Souls. Lords has weight and momentum.
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>>389813397
why haven't you procreate yet anon?

Is your penis malfunctional?
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>>389813397
Then Im truely sorry for you
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>>389813648
Oh I see. You're trolling. Very well, carry on anon you rused me
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Code Vein is way too beltan zipper.
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>>389812689
>30 fps shit game
lmao
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>>389813717
Not an argument. How the fuck does Lords have floaty combat? The movement feels like you're legit wearing heavy armor. Like you're legit swinging a huge weapon.
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>>389813720
>He doesn't enjoy edgekino the most.
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>>389813313
That's what really got me. There's the humans with different power armors and the five styles I mentioned, the few droids wearing the proteus armor, some kind of crystal things you meet at the end, and the odd robots on your way.

I obviously exagerated when I said 3 types, but it tops around 10, and that's counting with the weapon styles. Plus like 5 major bosses.

It got dull fast, since it's kinda short, and when you get some variety it's the last chapter already.

I liked it, but I'm in doubt if I'd recommend it to someone or even call it anything above an averagely good game
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>>389813784
>30 fps
what
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>>389812237
dragons dogma cause its actually fun
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>>389813970
Lords is much better, although flawed. The Surge controls good, but feels rushed. Also, fuck that stupid country song.
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>>389813784
It runs at sixty.
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>>389814038
Nope. Not even close to being a Souls derivative. Shit up another thread.
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>>389813784

Game literally runs at 60 fps you fucking moron.
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>>389814115
I haven't played anything besides souls games (all four) and the surge. I didn't even get my hands around BB yet

But yeah, that fucking country song... and for some reason it seems bugged in ps4 since I could never shut it off. Had to turn music volume to 0 to stop listening to this crap.
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>>389812237
Nioh, Salt & Sanctuary, or EITR
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>>389813784
Inb4 MERELY PRETENDING
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>>389813784
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>>389814353
Lords gets shit 'cause it's not floaty like the Souls games. Souls fans drop it after five minutes. You move like a 6'3" dude wearing armor. You gotta time your swings. The heaviest weapons are a bitch to use.
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>>389814650
>it's not floaty like the Souls games
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>>389815071
Not an argument.
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>>389813376
>720p
>enemy radar
>loot radar
>boring level design

Everything else is great, but those things really drag down the game a ton.
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>>389812237
None of them because they're all fucking shit.

>>389812326
Lords is literally the worst of them all.
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>>389815501
>>720p
Why didn't you buy a Sony PlayStation 4 PROâ„¢, anon?
>>enemy radar
>>loot radar
Literally only works if you have skills that activate it
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>>389815667
That's your worthless opinion, though. I'm 90% sure you enjoy e-celeb faggotry. That means you don't get a vote.
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>>389814650
Shortsword + shield ftw. Never learned to time my strikes with the heavier weapons. Had the same problem in The Surge actually, used the twin blades in that one since blocking is useless in that game.
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>>389812326
lords is shit, surge was better in lots of lots
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>>389815224
>LotF
>Not floaty
This is either bait, or severe delusion
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>>389815930
>blocking is useless

Not at all. You pretty much can't block charge attacks and others if you sustained block for a long while like 5s or so. Other than that, it's kinda OP actually

>t. Used Pax from first boss on
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>>389815930
I got stupid good at Lords. Clocked like two hundred hours. I can massacre a room with daggers. The nice thing about Lords is how many weapons there are. I'm gonna do a difficult challenge run soon.
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>>389816137
Well, guess I'm a fool then, played through the game without blocking once. I played it the way Bloodborne plays, with emphasis on dodging.
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>>389816135
Again, not a fucking argument. Watch some footage. Souls is quick and floaty; Lords has weight and momentum. Don't lie just 'cause you're triggered.
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>>389812237
Nioh is the only 3D souls-like that's comparable in quality.
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>>389816293
Me too desu, only after I started using block near the end I saw how usefull it was

Dodging is still less risky though, but blocking is really good too.
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>>389816137
Same. That weapon's dope.
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>>389813784
>>30 fps shit game
That's pretty soulslike alright.
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>>389816285
I enjoyed Lords a lot, but it had the same problem Surge had, the bosses. Way better than The Surge had, but the only ones that I didn't beat on my first try were the Lost Brothers and The Beast. Also the one in the graveyard, but that was only because I played that drunk and it took me a while to figure out how to avoid his Kai-o-ken blast.
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>>389816394
Lords is indeed slower than souls but the movement still feels floaty and wierd.
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>>389816394
>not a fucking argument
Fuck off, you don't even know what "floaty" means
Running and rolling in LotF feels like skating in butter and weapons look like they have no momentum and are swung in jelly
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>>389816534
Yeah. Lords is way too easy.

>>389816586
>>389816592
You played for five minutes. Nobody with a brain actually thinks that.
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>>389816685
>You played for five minutes
Not an argument. I played this shit for 11 hours hoping it'll get bewtter. It never did.
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>>389812326
i got lords because my mates said it was good and that id like it.

they say dont play it if you get mad when you die, but the artificial difficulty is off the charts, complete bullshit. the way the enemies are designed to kill you the first time you encounter them because of all these cheap bullshit they add to basically make you go OOOO OMG SO HARD!

not to mention all the heavy shit the game shoves in your face to get you to use them knowing very well going full rogue and running circles around your enemy with a dagger or gauntlet to insta kill everything or how you start with a buckler and its the only shield you can parry with, turns the game into a fkn breeze.

no. fuck lords. half assed bullshit. sad fucking game coated in a pretty shell.
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>>389813376
Yup, it's gonna be hard to top Nioh. Combat, movement and general mechanics are almost immaculate, I actually prefer it to any of the souls games. I'm also a huge weeb so that factors into my love for the game overall.
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>>389816685
I played 4 hours, beat that wierd graveyard guy before I quit. It's just not as good as a real souls game.

On paper it's good but it doesn't have the magic glue that makes a souls game a souls game.
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>>389815501
I thought the radar was fine because it only shows stuff like enemies and treasure on the map with certain abilities active
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Anti-Denuvo, Fromdrones and weebs are mad as fuck that a sequel will undoubtedly be confirmed. It's a better, Western take on the Souls formula with greater than Japanese production values that blows Bloodborne and Nioh out of the water.

>A LOOSELY Souls style game with INSANELY better graphics.
>Motion-captured animations.
>Westernized/European aesthetic and ideals.
>Dynamically placed, ambient music cues
>A FULLY REALIZED, immersive story with a set character that's actually voiced.
>FULLY voiced audio notes
>Mouths actually move when characters talk
>Stops at NG++.
>Much harder, REALISTIC fighting.
>Metroid/Castlevania style exploration.
>Crafting
>Don't have to worry about retards interfering with your game
>A much MORE rewarding Level-up system that emphasizes risk versus playing it safe.
>No retarded marathon runs to get back to a boss
>Boss weapon drops are dependent on how you battle/kill each of the five bosses, making strategy VERY rewarding.
>It's on PC
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>>389818026
Shill-sama, you have to come up with new pasta sometimes, you can't just rehash one forever
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>>389812237
>Souls-like
This is an awful fucking buzzword and I hate that it's catching on
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>>389818298
Can't stop it now.
I also hate that Soulsborne caught on as a term because it sounds so fucking dumb
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>>389812237
None of them. They are all shit.
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>>389818373
I blame journalism calling everything the dark souls of x and almost every time a game is called """souls-like""" it's nothing like dark souls
And I don't fucking understand why Dark Souls needs its own genre, it doesn't, if a game is taking obvious inspiration from Dark Souls it's a rip-off or inspired by situation and that can happen with any fucking game
What's next? Mario-likes? Zelda-likes? Mother-likes? Fuck's sake.
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>>389818515
Well we had Doom clones before this, so it's not like Souls-like is the first of its kind
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>>389818626
And no one used a faggot tier term like Doom-likes, which is my point. It's a stupid term. Just call them clones like you would with any other god damn series
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>>389812237
Nioh by far.
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>>389812237
Crash Bandicoot.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Db_A8w84Tcw
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blade of darkness is the best souls like long before DS
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Anyone have that webm of that boss I believe in lords just spinning repetitivally to the player not even near him?
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>>389813191
It's a reference to the Asimov novel, not GiTS
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