>Fallout 3 is trash, New Vegas is so much b-

>>389805629
-etter

>>389805706
in ways that don't really make a better game. FO3 is a 6/10. NV is a 6.5.

The only reason New Vegas is better than 3 is because having 20 mods loaded doesn't crash New Vegas like it does 3. And since it's a Bethesda game, mods are required to make the game good.

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>>389806047
They're built on the same shitty base, but NV somehow came out as a much better game than it had any right to be, FO3 was trash on every metric.

New Vegas was great because the story and characters were better.

Fallout 4 was trash because the story and characters were worse.

>>389806047
Internally consistent writing don't really make a better game? A better RPG?

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>>389806314
> And since it's a Bethesda game

>>389806431

>Fallout 4 was trash because the story and characters were worse.

Not to mention the worse everything else besides maybe shooting, but even that was hampered by a shit gun selection and a retarded weapon mod system that made Borderlands look good.

>>389806597
Game was written on bethesda code, game was published by bethesda. It's a bethesda game. All that obsidian did was give decent dialog.

>>389806806
>Made by contracted developer that isn't Bethesda
>It's a bethesda game.

U w0t m8. You also can't talk about Bethesda being a publisher and also say it's the same one that developed the engine, as they're two different entities. It's being intellectually dishonest

On the topic of NV, are there any mods that make the strip interesting? Like adding a bunch more npc's or something like that?

>>389806806
Game was based on bethesda code, but all the characters, dialogue, quests, locations, world, weapons, lore, new mechanics and tons of other stuff was all Obsidian. It's as much of a Bethesda game as Prey is.

>>389807072
>It's being intellectually dishonest
Do you know where you are?

>>389805629
>I don't know what a double deadbolt is
Okay fine there needs to be a kick/blow the door open mechanic then.

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Fallout 1 >= Fallout 2 >>>>> NV > 4 >>>>> 3. I was almost about to put NV = 4 because the map is actually fun to explore and the game doesn't play like ass.

>>389805629
just cause it has a broken window doesn't mean the lock is shitty

>>389807129
there's mods to add more npcs to make the place seem alive, its a must have if you are RPing as a prostitute with all the LL mods.

Vanilla NV is good but the actual DLCs are pretty poor

I can't in good conscience say that I enjoyed any of the DLC beyond the additional dialogue they provide

>>389807456
This. All the dlc's are equally dogshit. 3 is my least favorite fallout game and point lookout alone shits on all of them

>>389805706
/thread

>>389807278
>has bad opinions
>likes Cucklave
Huh.

>>389807590
I think Dead Money is the worst of them since it's also a pain to PLAY through

>>389807456
>>389807590

Old World Blues was great

>>389805629
I remember when I had never played a fallout game and a friend of mine said "its like TES but with guns" so I thought cool and grabbed one (NV) when it was on sale on steam. I of course loved it and played it to death.

And then at a later sale I see fallout 3 and pick it up because its praised as iconic best fallout game and I didn't even end up beating it and didn't enjoy nearly as much.

>>389807805
It's just a bunch of fetch quests and a """"stealth"""" section that can be done in the same way 4 times that doesn't take longer than 5 minutes total

Loved the idea though and the dialogue was great

>>389807805
This. Aside from the obvious meme bait dialogue it's pretty fun to play.

>>389807392
>its a must have if you are RPing as a prostitute with all the LL mods

How the men of our society have fallen

>>389805706
fpbp

>>389808109
>not getting knocked up 15 times by random strangers

>>389808109
>>389808109
>>389807392
Any recommendations for other games where I can prostitute myself?

Preferrably non-modded

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>>389807805
>Legendary Bloatfly

>>389807129
I think there are a few out there, but I don't remember exactly what they're called.
I know there's one that removes loading gates, so that may help, one that fixes up all of the buildings and streets to make it seem more maintained and actually used unlike the vanilla game, probably a few that some new shops

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>>389808414

Fuck you for reminding me

>>389807189
aside from using a bethesda-made engine and relying entirely on their code, textures, models, and various assets that they themselves did not create, sure whatever

>>389807625
>has bad opinions
But he rated Meme Vegas where it belongs, with the other 3D Fallouts.

>>389805629
name one game where you can overcome obstacles like this door in a creative way aside from following the games structure
ill wait
not really

>>389807278
Nah.
Fallout 2 > F:NV > Fallout 1 >>>>> fallout 3 >F:Shelter > F:BOS >>>>>> F:Tactics > fallout 4

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>>389807625
NV is better than 1 otherwise correct
Say that to me in real life and not over a computer

>>389806329
That doesn't make much sense considering it didn't really do much else different.
>muh writing
Not really all that better, just Shakespearen levels of dramatic exposition and unnatural dialogue without the actual depth. Everyone spills their emotions and beliefs when a random stranger asks them "how's it going?" That's retarded.

>>389808803
>NV being above or even close to 1 and 2
Spotted the NV fag

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>>389808652
Yes, aside from that. That stuff is very minor compared to all the stuff they DID do.

>>389808819
>NV is better than 1
Incorrect

>>389805706
We're done here. OP's gigantic shitpost is finished.

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>New Vegas has better writing and quests than fallout thr-

>>389809117
-ee

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>>389809117
cherry picking: the post

>>389808914
Wrong. The only reason anyone should play f1 is to give F2 context

>>389809117
>Cherrypicks the most complex FO3 sidequests and puts unmarked quests on FONV

LOL

>>389806329
NV came out slightly better because it came later and was built off of 3. I don't know why this is a concept so many here struggle to understand.
It's easy to improve something that came before and has already been analyzed and critiqued.

>>389809471
Then why is Fallout 4 so shit?

>>389809293
>that pic
He nailed a lot of it on the head tbqh. Thanks for the pic

>>389809294
>The only reason anyone should play f1 is to give F2 context
What? People, atleast me play Fallout 1 because it's a great fucking post apocalyptic game. It's the only game in the series to truly give the dark sense of atmosphere that a nuclear wasteland would. Fallout 2 is fucking fantastic but the setting is far too developed for it to be anywhere near as oppressive as Fallout 1 was.

Reminder that Bethesda originally wrote for Fallout 3 that you couldn't send your fucking supermutant companion into the radiation death chamber because 'it's your destiny'

>and was built off of 3

Nobody says NV is better because it improved in any way mechanically though. It improved in ways that are largely irrelevant to being the game coming after Fallout 3 and in many ways went back to being more like the original Fallouts

>>389809539

This. Despite having NV for reference, 4 somehow managed to do just about everything worse. Even if you argue that the shooting was better, that part is still hindered by a worse gun selection than NV.

>>389809367
>unmarked
They're not unmarked. An a large majority of NV quests are more linear than not

>>389808976
which was the writing, and...
that's it. that's all Obsidian created on their own, was the story and dialogue.

>>389809539
Bethesda didn't piggyback off of NV the same way NV was built off of 3. 4 is more distanced from 3 and NV than the latter are to each other.

>>389809117
This is probably the biggest shitpost I've seen on /v/ in a long time. Well done.

Why does Fallout cause so much shitposting?

>>389809954
Fan-base is too diverse.

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>tfw you enjoy Fallout 3,NV,and 4

>>389809954
The fan boys of new vegas shitposted and generally acted arrogant for years and lately they've been losing their stake here.

>>389809293
I'm baffled that someone not only took the time to make this but that they believed that anyone would take the time to read all of that

>>389809696

Still, are you really going to hold up Tenpenny Tower as an example of a good quest?

>>389809724

Story and dialogue are very important parts of an RPG and can easily bolster subpar gameplay.

>>389809954

Because 3 acted as a Final Fantasy 7 for the series, in that loads of people started there, based their entire knowledge of the series from that one game.

>>389809293
The problem with this picture is that it's implying that 3 is better than NV when both are equally shit. 4 with it's garbage RPG mechanics is somehow a better and more enjoyable experience than both.

>>389810084
I wish I could enjoy 4 past the original playthrough. The first 10-15 hours are actually pretty great because you're exploring a whole new area, but once you realize there's half as much to find as in previous games you start to lose interest.

>>389806692
>Borderlands gun mod system is bad

Uwot?

>>389810140

>4 with it's garbage RPG mechanics is somehow a better and more enjoyable experience than both.

4 is a cheap Far Cry clone on an engine that can't handle ladders or verticality beyond 3 stories, tacked on to a shitty Sims minigame that ironically would have worked better in an isometric camera view like the old games.

>>389809724
>characters, dialogue, quests, locations, world, weapons, lore, new mechanics and tons of other stuff
Come on, anon. It's obviously more than just writing. Even still, writing is easily one of the most important parts about an RPG like fallout.

>>389810124
Tenpenny tower is a good quest.

>3 acted as a FF7 where loads of people started here
New Vegas fans included, hell a lot of NV fanboys started on NV and never played 1 or 2, they just pay tribute to it to blend in amongst NMA fags.

If NV was just so obviously better than 3, everyone would unequivocally agree, but they don't because each game has its positives and negatives over the other one. But you retards don't see that, you see "this person disagrees with me so they must be retarded". More proof that you're all a bunch of idiotic children

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>>389810084
>enjoyed FO3 because it was my first entry in the series
>have trouble going back to it because it's not as good as I remembered

>enjoyed NV when I played it initially, but didn't initially enjoy it as much as I enjoyed 3 initially
>go back to it years later and end up enjoying it a lot more than I ever enjoyed playing 3

>tried to give 4 a chance
>couldn't play it for more than a few hours because it felt like more of the same of Fallout 3, even more so than New Vegas, but also somehow lesser in most ways other than maybe how it feels to shoot guns

Fallout 1 and 2 were pretty fun.
Don't think I'll ever care enough about Tactics to ever play it

Does anyone else think Larian studios would make a great Fallout 5 in the classic crpg style? DOS was amazing and I'm looking forward to DOS2 as well.

>>389807456
Did Honest Hearts earlier today. Little bit tedious. All the DLC has going for it is the survivalist.

Started Dead Money. Dean Domino is a fucking cocksucker and I'm glad I'm going to have to kill him. How can I get out with the gold, anons?

>>389810694
>the gold
Fucking worthless, I can get 10x more from the casino.

>>389810576
>play fallout 3 at release
>love it
>100% it on 2 run throughs
>go back to it years later
>still pretty fun

>play New Vegas at release
>was bored and often annoyed by its story and the many glitches
>still 100% it
>tried to go back to it because I felt I was maybe too harsh
>still feels like a boring slog

Don't know what it was, maybe u was fatigued by the time I reached New Vegas? It just didn't grab or retain my attention as mych, even with the more interconnected story.

>>389810694
>>389810828
fucking unrealistic, why does 10k worth of caps weigh 35kg

that amount would easily be worth 10 times as much

>>389808652
>muh engine and models and animations
Yes, they used all of Bethesda's resources better than Bethesda did, that's why the game was better than FO3.

>>389810828
No you can't. The gold bars equate to nearly 400,000 caps. You barely get above 50,000 from the casinos.

>>389810932
try playing KotoR 1 and 2 back to back, I'm certain you'll feel the same way

it's not a question about which game is better but just a state of mind the game creates within that you enjoy more

>>389810694
>Gold when you can get pre war money
12k pre war money is around 120 000 caps, by the way.

>>389811174
But I've gotten over a million from the casino.

>>389810569

>If NV was just so obviously better than 3, everyone would unequivocally agree

Popularity =/= quality

>but they don't because each game has its positives and negatives over the other one

Most of the perceived positives for 3 are negatives for anyone who actually played the other games.

>>389811174

It's still pointless, since without specific mods almost no merchants in the Mojave Wasteland carry enough caps/high-value items to make the gold worth carrying. They're cool to decorate a safehouse with, but not worth carting around for commerce.

>>389811242
That`s how I played KotOR, besides 2 being buggy and being forced to play as my under-levelled companions I quite enjoyed them both.
Enjoyed both 3 and NV as I played them, but it`s clear that NV is a better fallout game.

>>389811317
Do you propose I just farm the shit out of the vending machines, then?

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>>389810932
I had a similar experience, but with Fallout 4.
>Get Nuke Edition F4 at release
>It has many shortcomings, but I put at least sixty hours into my frist character
>Go BoS first, try Minutemen next
>Get halfway through the game. Lose interest
>Reinstall NV and slather it with mods.
>Play it again and have a better much time

With all the drama around paid mods and the season pass I can't even muster the energy to play F4. Even now.

>fallout 3 was released 10 years ago
Are bethesdrones just not-underages nostalgiafags ?

>Replaying Fallout 3 through TTW
>Level scaling is painful, the only things you battle at lvl 50 are Super Mutant Overlords (scaled to level 50, with 20k health), Albino Scorpions and Ghoul Reavers

>>389811517
i agree completely

i think it's all just a matter of perspective though, there's never true objectivity in terms of what is better than something else in a video game besides how the game runs

>>389811579
Farm the shit out of the vending machines, then bring some of the ingots with you. You don,t really need all of them.

>>389811579
Don't even need to farm. You get 1 pre-war money per 1 chip.

If you have Barter, you can get even more for the money too. Honestly, the gold bars are a meme.

>>389811335
So just because New Vegas is popular on /v/ doesn't make it better either. The fact of the matter is saying "New Vegas is better than 3" is an opinion, not a fact, and that's something you'll need to accept
>but some opinions are more educated or better than others
Yeah no. When we're talking about 2 games that are virtually similar outside of setting and story, it's not the case.

>but they're negatives to people who have played the other games
I've played the other games, and I still enjoy 3 and see the positives as positives still.
>but you're just one person, more people agree with me
Ad populum

>>389811819
Your opinion doesn't matter, bethesdrone underage.

>>389811745
No, some games can be better than other games and easily comparable games like the last gen fallout games can be compared, NV is the game fallout 3 should have been.

>>389811740

Welcome brother

>>389811819

>So just because New Vegas is popular on /v/ doesn't make it better either.

/v/ is a tiny subsection of the gaming population and their opinion is overall unheard. Outside of /v/, 3 is lauded as the best in the series, riding on adulation of ignorant people who don't understand Fallout.

>Yeah no. When we're talking about 2 games that are virtually similar outside of setting and story, it's not the case.

Might as well argue that DMC2 and DMC3 are virtually similar as well, since they're arguably the same game outside of story.

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>>389811949
And here I thought I was dealing with a reasonable person. Should've known better tbhf

>>389812001
As I said, all a matter of perspective

You can't "improve" upon artistic choice because it's an opinion, not fact

>>389812224
Well my opinions are facts.

>>389812224
Games aren`t art, there are many variables that can be compared in a game.

>>389812113
Depends on scope, in both situations the popular opinion obscures the minority.

>>389812397
Art isn't art, there are many variables that can be compared in art

>>389812378
oh never mind me then

>>389811819
>saying "New Vegas is better than 3" is an opinion, not a fact
that's what you think as a subjectivist. some things are just superior to others objectively

>>389806692
>maybe shooting
>maybe
delusional

new vegas is OBJECTIVELY better than 3, you can personally enjoy 3 more but that doesn't make it a better game

it's not like arguing about ice cream where it just comes down to personal preference, video games have actual quantifiable reasons as to why one is better than the other

>>389812586
those quantifiable reasons come down to overall performance, polish and price

everything else is completely subjective

>>389812524
We're talking about video games you mongoloid, you will never be right in this case. Accept it.

FOnline 2 is the best Fallout.

Russian hell isn't that bad, honest.

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>>389810140
>Zelda Cycle niggers trying to fool anyone that 4 isn't the worst in the series with "muh gunplay" despite every other aspect being a step down from even 3

>>389812586
Then define "better".

>>389812572

The only advantage it has is that you're less reliant on VATS to hit shit at range, but even then NV's ironsight system worked fine enough and there were enough diverse guns to shoot. 4's arsenal was basically just "hardware store pipe that fires varying rounds" and "beam thingy with a crank".

And even worse, that all comes at the expense of roleplaying options.

>>389812785
some things have inherent qualities and value. some have more than others. in this instance, NV is objectively superior in a number of qualities to 3.

>>389806597
>cuckzaki
fuck off and die

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>>389812521
>Art isn't art, there are many variables that can be compared in art
Not true, there are different styles and qualities, quality is a work in progress and styles are genuinely very hard to compare.

>>389812772
>everything else is completely subjective
No, some games just have better writing/world building/stories/themes.

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>>389812113
>Outside of /v/, 3 is lauded as the best in the series

Only by consolefags and "journalists"

>>389812958
I'm just gonna go ahead and save us the argument
>better writing
Subjective. If you were to say New Vegas puts more emphasis on grey morality and faction relations, then I'd say that's objective. If you were to say you prefer that over Fallout 3's more heavy handed good vs evil that's driven more through emotion and relationships between individuals entwined in the story, I'd say sure, whatever. To say one is better than the other is subjective.

This is really the only major difference between the two.

>>389813370
>This is really the only major difference between the two.

General dialogue and worldbuilding actually making more sense, along with more involved quests isn't major in an RPG?

>>389813370
The only subjective thing is the person`s opinion on a badly put together theme park with nonsensical characters making a series of poor decisions which luckily leads to the game being over.

>>389813174
Why are there two NVs?

>>389813135
>just have better xxx

Name 3 things in your particular mind that NV does objectively better than F3, where 100% of all people on this planet could agree

>>389813370
like i said, you're a subjectivist, this is what you think. i however do know that any given aspect of two things inevitably has one which is superior to the other. for NV and 3 these include but aren't limited to:
companions characters
companion backstories
companion mechanics
quest complexity
amount of content
writing (all)
respect to wider universe lore
moral complexity
faction depth
skills and their impact through mechanisms like dialogue
DLC quality (all of the above)

>>389809117
what do they eat?

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>>389813370
>This is really the only major difference between the two.
NV has a far superior weapon pool and choice for ammunition.

>>389813745
all of these are subjective though

for instance, someone doesn't like a particular companion in game x
in his opinion he will find this character inferior to others in game y

how can you argue that his opinion is wrong because YOU find said character to be better than whatever he prefers

>>389813370
>reee my twilight fanfiction is just as good as shakespeare cause writing's subjective!

of course sweetie

>>389813721
If you use people as a metric then nothing is objective.
New Vegas does have better world building.
New Vegas does have better themes.
New Vegas does have better dialogue.
These things can be considered subjective only by window lickers.

>>389813927
Even better, Emil will be the lead writer to every Bethesda game.

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>>389813927

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>>389813927
Fuck you, Todd.

>>389813497
The world building wasn't that impressive in New Vegas. The way the world was constructed in both games is completely different. In NV everything tries to relate back to the Legion vs NCR. In 3, while emphasis is put on the water purifier the rest of the locations and people you meet are, for the most part, separate, almost anthological. Again, one isn't inherently better.

As for dialogue, that too is heavily subjective. I can get why people initially perceive NV as being better, but in the end NV's dialogue comes off as preachy and unrealistic. In NV a stranger asking someone "how are you doing?" results in that person spilling a bunch of superfluous info about their emotions and their philosophies. Sometimes that's good because it gets more information across, but at the same time it's unnatural and a bit much. Regardless, we can cherry pick examples all night of good and bad dialogue from both games, but at the end it will prove nothing.
>>389813539
What?

>>389814016
i'm not talking about his opinion. you're a subjectivist and you reject the basic idea of value talk which makes it a pain to try to talk to you, because you mongs will try to pull your euphoric carpet pull of "uhh that's just SUBJECTIVE"

i'm making a statement of fact that NV is better, in fact it's better in every way except for the little vignettes you can find in 3 but not NV. you should read "the abolition of man" it might help you understand this wider issue

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>>389813927
Give it back Todd!

>>389814057
Ironically that is true. I read Macbeth and it seemed almost as awful as the game based on its "themes" FF15 given that it has ridiculously fast pacing and no proper sense of build up

>>389813745
Calling me a subjectivist doesn't make your statements any more closer to being truth. I get that you strongly feel these opinions are true, but they're not. That's why they're called opinions. This isn't an ideology, this is fact. You can try to distort reality in whatever way you like to come out on top, but in the end you're the one doing the mental gymnastics not me.

>>389814403
Delete this right now.

>>389814268
>>389814483
>B-BUT IT'S JUST SUBJECTIVE
No it's not
Off yourself already, you worthless fencesitting piece of human refuse

>>389814057
Nice hyperbolized analogy anon. You really got me there

>>389814620
The quality of writing is subjective though, anon. Just like the quality of vidya. Especially when we get into the madness that what you may think is bad design someone else loves. And what you may hate, someone else thinks is good design.

>>389814657
>make logical extrapolation of your argument to illustrate it's absurdity
>"b-b-but that's hyperbole!"
uh huh

>>389814620
>stutter posting
>off yourself
>fence sitting
Lol, I'm sorry for attacking your ego but that's what you get for investing yourself so heavily into something as stupid as which game is better.

>>389814738
>The quality of writing is subjective though
No
>Just like the quality of vidya
Again no
>Especially when we get into the madness that what you may think is bad design someone else loves. And what you may hate, someone else thinks is good design.
So I guess nothing is ever bad and nothing is ever good then. Everything is just subjective.
Actually kill yourself now if you legitimately think this

>>389814825
>stupid
But that's subjective :^^^)

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Reminder that this kind of clingy dialogue is extremely common in NV.

>>389805706
FPBP

I don't know why they bothered locking it, the robot opens it for you anyway.

>>389814743
Have you even read Shakespeare? A lot of it doesn't really hold up too well, and it's shit just you read in high school. A better analogy would've been, idk, something like the good the bad and the ugly vs a fistful of dollars. Two of the same series with completely different tones and writing styles

>>389815069
[Intelligence] So you shitpost in Fallout threads by posting out of context screencaps.

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>>389815069

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>>389815004
Here's your last (You). Spend it well.

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>>389815115
>Have you even read Shakespeare? A lot of it doesn't really hold up too well, and it's shit just you read in high school.

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>>389815069
>>389815161
>fallout cringe
>cringe 2
Todd...

>>389815160
>out of context
There is no context for this.

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>>389815225

REMINDER THAT DEVSHILLS POST ON /V/ AND THERE ARE NO OBJECTIVE UNBIAS OPINIONS.

>>389815069
>Reminder that this kind of clingy dialogue is extremely common in NV.
>clingy
Well, I guess Doctor Dala is like that towards the Courier. I thought it was kinda sexy cute to be honest.

>>389815204
If you wanted anotehr (You), all you needed to do was ask, bubby. Now go neck yourself

>>389815208
What's the last Shakespearen title you read.

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>>389815234
calling me todd wont make this game any less cringy, i have been playing it all week and have over 175 hours logged in this playthrough. I love the role playing playing but holy shit the writing in this game is réddit tier cringe

>>389814884
>>The quality of writing is subjective though
>No
Rate this writing:

And so, despite his weighty armour, he lived in fear. Of a delicate thing, little more than a girl.
Where fire resideth, shadows twist and shrivel. But in the Abyss, there are shadows none.
Fear not, the dark, my friend.
And let the feast begin.

One poor girl slew her own kin, but even so, was embraced, enveloped by the Abyss.
Twas a comfort that neither moon nor sunless sky afforded her before.
Fear not, the dark, my friend.
And let the feast begin.

And so, she lived in fear. Of the dark, of the things that gnawed at her flesh.
And yet! The Abyss hath yet to produce any such creature!
Fear not, the dark, my friend.
And let the feast begin.

One was a wayfaring knight, on an endless, forbidden search.
Only the Abyss granted closure, if not reunion with his beloved.
Fear not, the dark, my friend.
And let the feast begin.

Of all the Fingers, he alone was embraced by the Abyss.
For he was human, and ne'er a grub.
Fear not, the dark, my friend.
And let the feast begin.

One met the dark with learning. But in the end, learned his knowledge was wanting.
The world began without knowledge, and without knowledge will it end.
Dost not this ring clear and true?
Fear not, the dark, my friend.
And let the feast begin.

I rate it 7/10

>>389815225
>>389815310
No one has ever complained about wacky humor in any Fallout game

2 had a goofy Scientology parody and talking cows

3 had Tunnel Snakes and the Fuck You door

NV had this and Fisto

>>389815442
I'm not going reread a bunch of Dork Souls 3 conversations.
Not even sure what point you're trying to get across by posting this.

they are both about equal. equally shit. new vegas has a great build that culminates into a wet shart into a fucking empty toilet bowl of clear water. at least fallout 3 was consistent. consistently shit

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>>389815405
King Lear, a few months ago friend.

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>>389815416
>cringe
You know how cliche Nineties parodies have characters say "Radical" and "That's so fly" non stop? Cringe is this generation's version of that. Please stop using it so excessively, thanks.

>>389815469
The tunnel snakes were not nearly as cringey as this shit. Do not even compare this monstrosity with the older fallout games. obsidian fanboys will really just try to justify anything.
>its ok if obsidian does it

>>389815558
You should. You must rate it 7/10 too or else the quality of writing is subjective.

>>389815558
probably to distract you long enough for him to find an actual response.

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>>389815643
>s-s-s-top using that word to describe my favorite game don't you know how offensive that is!
>t. paid obsidian shill

>>389815668
I still don't see your point.
Did you lose it somewhere or did you even have one to begin with?

>>389815643
Radical and fly are positive statements. Cringe is a negative one. Thus cringe will never wear out or seem dated. Dark Souls 2 is WACK

>>389815645
> tunnel snakes.
> not cringey.

Literally a group of edgelords who come up with their own super special secret club.

>>389815720
The quality of writing is subjective

>>389815765
>t. obsidian shill upset that bethesda actually had good writing in 3 while nv is god awful

>>389815710
i'm not even that guy and I think you're a cuck.

>>389815610
What would you rate it? Especially amongst his other titles?

>>389815861
It hurts to see the truth of your favorite company huh?

>>389815860
Actually I think both are shitty. Good job on your black and white tunnel vision you fucking retard literally the cancer killing the industry go fucking off yourself you idiotic piece of shit.

>>389815645
FO2 has objectively the silliest jokes let's be real, it's so early 2000s it hurts. You don't remember Spice Girls and Not-Tom-Cruise?

>>389815442
Is that locust quotes?

>>389807189
Isnt Arkane fully owned by Bethesda?

>>389815936
read; >>389815938

You CUNT.

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>>389815860
Do you have any arguments besides muh Obsidishill

>>389815951
2 was 1998 you shit-spewing parrot.

Ahh, our gracious Lord...Isaac.
Make Londor whole again.
Make us whole again, Isaac.
Make us whole.

>>389816072
I think we broke the bots.

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>>389816091
I'm getting old

>>389816210
And yet you continue to hold shit-tier opinions. Well done on not only being a faggot but also an outdated faggot to boot.

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>>389811740
>Fallout 3 was the first Fallout game I played
>71 hours on Steam, had a fucking blast playing this genre I've never experienced before.
>Hesitated to play NV; I don't usually play with mods and NV looked like it was just modded FO3
>Thought it was gonna be trash and I didn't want to ruin my experience
>Finally decide to try out NV
>Oh fuck
>189 hours on Steam, still playing
>mfw I thought FO3 was actually good
>mfw I didn't know what "good" was until I played NV

>>389815442
i rate this a 3/10, would not read again

>>389815559
i rate this a 9/10, gave me a laugh

>>389816270
>And yet you continue to hold shit-tier opinions.
You'll understand when you get older yourself. The difficulties of changing.

>tfw the final boss of DaS3 is on its cover

Why the fuck did they do this?

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>>389816072
>cant defend terrible dialogue other than "w-w-w-well other games were cringey too abloo bloo bloo"
Typical shill. been playing this game all week because of how often you cucks shill this game on here and i have never been more disappointed. I keep forcing myself to play it hoping it will get better but jfc the writing is atrocious.

>>389816363
> when you get older.

I turned 30 this year and i've fucked three different girls. Change is awesome. Embrace chaos and JOIN US IN THE MAELSTORM OF FURY THAT IS BORN OF THE HATRED OF A THOUSAND WHITE HOT SUNS OF BURNING FURY. THEN YOU WILL KNOW THE TRUTH OF NEO-/V/.

>>389816526
>i've fucked three different girls
So either
1. You are lying and still a /v/irgin, which is typical for someone like you. or
2. You aren't lying and have only had sex with 3 women at the age of 30.

Either way what the fuck is wrong with you? I am a fucking trap and i still managed to have sex with girls in grade 10

>>389816439
You need to understand that if you are correct you are your own worst enemy you thoroughly detestible mong.

>>389816629
> focusing on the sex.

Underage detected.

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>>389816308
>mfw trying to go back to 3 after pumping 200 hours into NV
>suddenly I see
>the writing is horseshit
>the perks are all "you get +5 skill X"
>have to reload because Lucas Simms clips into door
>uninstall and reinstall NV
Halfway into my House run, just finished up Honest Hearts. Couldn't stop Joshua Graham from going full psycho, sweet loot though.

>>389815817
So I guess here's the response you wanted

The flymen's abyss dialog is more compelling and interesting than anything said in Fallout 3.
Most of 3's writing consists of really obvious morally black or white characters and lines of dialog. Villains are practically cartoonishly evil, while good guys are almost cartoonishly heroic.
The level of thought put into the story of Fallout 3 is not that high, as a lot of plot elements are either ripped straight out of Fallout 1 and/or 2, like the GECK, Vault 101's purpose, the Trouble on the Homefront quest, Super Mutants, although those were retconned into being just a bunch of dumb idiots compared to the earlier games and even New Vegas were some Super Mutants actually are intelligent, the FEV virus, etc., or just some ideas the that didn't get thought out enough, like the Dad character being the character's main goal and eventually his death being the driving force of the story, even though he isn't around that much and doesn't have enough time to establish a good connection with the player before he gets offed, we're just supposed to care because he's the dad of the player character, not because he's a good or interesting character.
As a whole it really isn't written that well, partially because it just half-asses a lot of ideas from the previous games, and the main conflict centering around needing to get clean water when the people in the wasteland have somehow been surviving for 200-some years seemingly just fine without it is also just kind of dumb.

But whatever, just greentext my entire post and then type subjective after it or whatever

>only examples he has of "bad" writing in NV is from the think tank
>a set of characters who have been driven literally loopy to juxtapose the appalling things they've done
this is cute

>>389816754
Numbers make for wonderful writing material you know.

>>389816759
I'm not really on either side of the FO writing divide. If I could remember enough FO3 dialogue I might agree. Also I think the main reason so many normie people care about the FO3 Dad character is because he's Liam Neeson.

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>>389816526
I agree, once you made it through twenties alive and intact things get better. Also you stop giving a fuck what strangers think of you which feels like cheat mode enabled tbqh.

>>389816734
>get caught lying
> y-y-you're underage
Actually im in my 20's and telling you right now anyone who brags about how much sex they have had when it was completely irellevent to the subject at hand is just straight up lying. Kys faggot.

How are you so pathetic that a fucking beta male trap like me has gotten laid more than you?

>>389816830
>we made them cringy on purpose: the excuse
This is cute

>>389816754
>>the perks are all "you get +5 skill X"
To be fair to Fallout 3, there were a bunch of perks in the earlier games that just gave you a generic buff to your stats, but Fallout 3 really pushes it, yeah.

>>389816980
> implying i've been caught lying.
I see you do infact enjoy talking shit. Your reality does not influence that of others and you are not special.

>>389812792
Wesan?
is that you?

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>>389816980
>beta male trap
How you doin

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Its Simple its all about modding.
Fallout New Vegas had an excellent modding community.

With great lore friendly quest mods like The Someguy2000 series, Autumn Leaves and a few Great mods coming such as Fallout: New California and Fallout: The Frontier

Fallout 3s modding community wasn't as great but there were some good/decent mods that came out like
FO3 Wanderers Edition That fully overhauled the game. Or Quest mods like Cube Experimental Or Mothership Zeta Crew Which expanded and added so much more content on an otherwise weak DLC

Fallout 4s Modding Community has Brought in a whole slue of modders for better or for worse. I personally Dont like the Community of modders behind fallout for but the mods that do come from them are decent. Thate are even some great Quest mods out now like.
Outcasts and Remnants Or 50 Ways to Die at Dr. Nick's and even some mods that are coming soon
Fallout: Lonestar and Overhaul set in the Lonestar State around El Paso
or Fallout: Cascadia A mods set in Seattle, This overhaul mod plans to return the Skill system and Dialog system from Fallout Newvegas
and Even Fallout 4: The Capital Wasteland That plans on remaking Fallout 3 in Fallout 4 from the ground up so much as to create new models

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>>389817229
>tfw best mod was never finished
Niner was such a bro I got mad af when I heard that the dev basically skipped town.

>>389817123
im good how are you
>>389817091
I only come to /v/ to talk shit desu. its the shitposting board.

>>389817468
you're a boring little cunt really aren't you.

pics or gtfo.

>>389817565
needs a timestamp idiot.

Also my girlfriend's are bigger.

>>389817752
Your gf is probably biologically female and has been growing hers for over a decade, i have only been on hormones for 2 years silly.

im not timestamping for /v/ unless more than 1 person wants to see it and i already have done before so i would just post the one from last time.

>>389817929
can i see ur feet pls

>>389817929
>probably.

Nice presumption you hate-enabler.

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>>389817929
>>389817565
>>389816980
>tfw no trap GF that likes fallout
>tfw when i only have a real gf that like fallout
Why live

>>389818067
i mean if she isn't i would be extremely surpised, my breasts are pretty big compared to other trannies

>>389817992
i dont have any pics of them and the light in my room is burnt out. ask me tommorow when the sun is out

>>389818242
I have a chubby shortarse as a girlfriend. her tits are enormous.

>some tranny starts attentionwhoring
>nobody tells them to go slit their wrists and fuck off

damn, nu-/v/ really is shit...

>>389809293
>reddit
>fallout new vegas

lol

>>389818340
didn't you know like 70% of /v/ is full of fags?

>>389818328
ah. im about 5'5 and a half but thats only short for manlets i guess.

>>389818340
i will fuck off then buh bye.

>>389818242
i'm sure fate will allow me to find you in a random thread i hope

>>389818340
Caring about trannies and not talking about the real issue here

>>389818397
it didn't use to be like this...

>>389818530
it used to be 90%. 4chan as a whole is full of trap loving faggots.

>>389805629
Wow it's almost like the robot opens it up for you anyways so it's barely an issue.

>>389805629
I unironically love moments like this on PC. Because I feel justified using console commands to noclip through a door like that.
On consoles it's incredibly frustrating.

>Fallout 1
>Start with 8 luck because whatever
>Get done with the Radscorpions quest for Shady Sands and head for Vault 15
>A MOTHERFUCKING SPACESHIP WITH AN ALIEN BLASTER
I'm never underestimating luck builds ever again.

>>389810694
There should be a video or two on YouTube about it

>deathclaws are mutated jackson's chameleons
>the chameleons are only found the desert
>they somehow made it to the east coast

>brotherhood of steel are basically just organized raiders with access to technology and they aren't immediately hostile on sight to outsiders. neutral at best
>they are now "good guys" and have made their way across america too and are super friendly with everyone that isn't a designated story bad guy

Why does Todd insist on having it be a complete wasteland 200something years later and everyone lives in rundown shit with rubble lying around everywhere?

>>389819071
To be fair, Besthesda can handwave those two by having them migrate west to east.

>>389805629
>game is trash
>same game reskin is better

>>389818752
>get 10000 caps and the Red Ryder LE BB gun right off the bat because lolluck
Yeah, luck's pretty cool

>>389819440
>>389818752

You guys realize combat wasn't really an integral part of the gameplay in early roleplaying games?

It's where pacifist run throughs come from. You don't need the alien blaster to complete the game. LK just gives you a new perspective on the game.

>>389819867
What the fuck are you going on about?

>>389810694
>find body
>dismember the head from the body
>carry head with you to the chambers
>stuff all the gold inside the head
>walk out with your head full of gold
>???
>PROFIT!

How is this hard for anyone to understand?

>>389820064
If you play with a LK build you're going to get a LK game.

>>389816629
>I am a fucking trap and i still managed to have sex with girls in grade 10
This actually makes you sound worse, fucking degenerate.

>>389818672
fucking this.
Not to mention an average lock is pretty much a gift of xp

>>389815973
Bethesda the publisher, yeah. Not Bethesda the game studio, which is what people mean when they say "bethesda games"

>>389817565
Fuck off with your disgusting fake manboobs, fucking degenerated lunatic. Eat shit and go kill yourself!

>>389805629
There is no point.

No matter how many objective issues with New Vegas you point out, the rabid fanboys will cover their eyes and shitpost relentlessly instead of ever acknowledging them.

It's really quite pathetic.

Holy fuck i love bethesda's cock.

Tarvesin: /video games and video game culture/

>>389805629
Fucking enough with this stupid fucking - bullshit, if you have a problem, how about you state your problem like an actual fucking adult? Or is that too lacking in memes for you, you raging fucking retard?

>>389808976
>The engine is very minor

>>389805629
Just get the robutt to open it for you.

>>389822154
How i'm supposed to know that ? that's the problem with obisdian, they never explain nothing.

>>389821602
maybe there are dumb fanboys who only like NV for superficial reasons but there are legitimate reasons to prefer it over FO3 and FO4.It's not a perfect game but I liked Obsidian's approach and design philosophy so much that I can't enjoy Bethesda's two games nearly as much.

>>389821296
If you think thats what manboobs look like then you are pretty delusional and need see some actual breasts for once.

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>>389811624
God I love Joshua

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>>389822042
Butthurt much?

Anyone know a mod that makes fleeing npcs stop being hostile? I feel bad everytime an npc starts running like he doesn't want to fight and I just have to shoot him in the back.

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House is objectively, definitely the best choice for the Mojave and humanity as a whole.

>saved what he could of Las Vegas by disabling/shooting down nearly all of the nuclear warheads
>intelligent and ambitious, wants to further technological advancement and colonize other planets
>massive robot army directly controlled by him to enforce law and order like no other faction can, not even the Legion
>autocrat, doesn't want to control anyone's private life while also not controlled or slowed down by bureucratic governments and councils
>research into longevity/immortatily, could share this technology with the Courier and other outstanding individuals

Other factions?
NCR
>good intentions but plagued with corruption, NCR citizens and traders suffer under heavy taxation, paperwork and martial law in most places

Legion
>heavy-handed dictatorship with backwards beliefs
>rejection of modern medicine and technology
>slavery, crucifixations
>will eventually get defeated by NCR anyway due to being heavily outnumbered by reinforcements from the West

Independent
>courier usurps Mr. House but not with nearly as much control over the area and citizens
>Vegas and surrounding lands swarmed with junkies and raiders
>depending on courier alignment this may turn out in various ways for New Vegas but even with good intentions, cannot come close to copying and achieving House's technological knowledge and ambitions

>>389825741
As far as I can see it the only real choice in the game is between House, and a benevolent Courier. House is House, but the Courier has access to a few resources that would be beyond even House's own reach, like the Boomers, the Think Tank, and perhaps even the Sierra Madre, which all together would make the Mojave a very defensible state.

>>389826182
The Courier can recruit the Boomers for House and otherwise act as his agent beyond his reach to provide him those resources, which is what he already does in New Vegas by upgrading the robots at the Fort and convincing other factions to join him.
The Courier is exceptional at combat, diplomacy and the sciences but he doesn't have the resources House does, most importantly being wired to a supercomputer, and cannot run a city on his own.

A House ending is better for everyone involved, courier included. By becoming his protege, he can do jobs that Securitrons cannot do while still having relative freedom and enjoying the benefits.

House with a full good courier as his 'right hand man' is the best outcome. In any ending you pick the courier ends up doing most of the work anyway provided you aren't a kill everything speedrunner, so independent is useless and the other two are mediocre temporary solutions.

>>389826182
Courier route is there so people can refuse to make choices, not as a real viable canon ending

It's like the Minutemen in Fallout 4