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Which games feature fun support characters?

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Which games feature fun support characters?
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>>389786271
A little game i like to call heroes of the storm
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>>389786572
It is hard to get into like league of legends or easier?

please elaborate on the support aspect
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>>389786271
define support
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>>389786271
Grover and mal damba are far more fun.
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>>389786921
It's pretty easy to get into. There are various support characters in the game who can buff, debuff, stun, help lane push, and help positioning. The overall mechanics are pretty easy to get, but knowing what talents work best against which characters help out.
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>>389786271
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>>389787174
healers basically
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>>389787274
This and Sharla
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>>389787358
>Sharla
>Fun
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>>389787334
oh, then none
people will always blame healers for their own failures
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>>389787213
>Grover
>fun
Probably the most boring
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>>389787358
>Sharla
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>support
>your role is to assist retards

not fun
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>>389787334
oh yeah not all supports do heals in heroes
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>>389787479
>sniping with axes
>not fun
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>>389786271
>shooting people with your own semen
>lifting them to see under their skirts
>hovering no to touch the same ground as those filthy peasants
>kamehameha ulti
10/10 support.
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>>389786271
Dirty Bomb
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Mercy is a support fun to play, a very intensive and hardcore support easy to play but very hard to master, she's very engaging :)
overwatch character btw if you wanna play her
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>>389788321
she is dogshit boring ,sadly zen is bad and lucio is dodge bullets simulator
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this bitch is too much fun to play as
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>>389790460
>army of clones wipes the point
All supports are kinda fun in Paladins imo
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>>389786271
Awesomenauts
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>>389790630
>a whole 1000 damage per clone set
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>>389790630
>>389790865
>people that exploder their clones instead of letting they heal
There's an special type of hell for you.
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>>389790460
Seris is literally perfect
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>it's another "crossboards from /vg/ come to shill their game" episode
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>>389791296
>it's another video game thread on /v/
When is that going to be a bannable offense?
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who /support/ here

>destroys waves
>destroys towers
>destroys carries
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>>389791191
>not knowing when your clones are about to expire and when it's time for them to go kaboom
Pleb, play some more.
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>>389792414
Sorry, I don't play second rate supports.
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WOW IS THIS THE NEW TEAM BASED COMPETITIVE MULTI PLAYER SHOOTER WITH TWO SIDES AND HEROES?

HAHA WOW SICK!

HAHA WOW CANT WAIT TO PLAY NIGGERMAN600 WITH HIS ABILITY "SEMEN SUCKING 500 RAPE THE FAGS" HAHA WOW WHOA
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>>389787174
Not just healers, but (de)buff bitches as well. People designed to make everyone else better.
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>>389790630
I actually don't like Ying that much, she doesn't have a lot going on. Mal'Damba is cool but I suck shit at him.
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>>389786271
HONESTLY? I really enjoyed Reyna from Battleborn when I played during the beta. She wasn't just a healslut, she set shields sort of like Zarya, only the shields lasted longer than one eighth of a second.
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>>389792827
Man dawngate had such good characters.
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HotS and this guy.
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>>389792586
git gud
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>>389794228
Came here to post this. This right here is how a monk should play.
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>>389792827
Dawngate was the only moba in existence where everyone wanted to be support and nobody wanted to be the carry.

>make it so that """supports""" earn just as much gold as the people they're supporting by deathmatching/poking and ignoring everything else
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not Vadasi tho. Support Aisling is also fun but you miss out on those jump attacks.
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>>389794821
That's because all the carries were boring.
Meanwhile support had Renzo, Desecrator, fucking Cerulean. Why WOULDN'T you play support?
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>>389794821
>>389792827

Dawngate died way too young.
It had its ideas fucking down.

Carry and support in its traditional dota meaning is stupid. It doesn't work because support isnt nearly as fun or rewarding.

Making everyone work the same in terms of "Gold" and "Level" gain, but some heroes are dedicated to damage and others are dedicated to buffing and debuffing or disabling etc. makes so much more sense
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Battlefield 3 and 4
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>>389791256
>that tum
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>>389787213
>Not playing Grohk
>Deniying yourself the opportunity to be THE thunder god AND be green at the same time
>Not cancelling BK's bullshit stun, Torvald's Kamehameha, Zhin's Final Smash and Seris thingy
>Also doing insane Overtime, allowing your teammates to respawn and come to finish the push and/or annoy the fuck outta the enemy team

Grohk is love, Grohk is life.
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>>389790460
>>389791256
Clutch champ for baddies, Damba is objectively better.
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>>389795603
*shots you totem*
heh...nothing personnel.
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>>389791256
>>389790460
i agree
the overwatch team should release 2 hero/month like paladins used to because they're seriously lacking in interesting character.
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>>389786271
Stukov is pretty fun once you unlock the talent that spreads your HoT indefinitely
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>>389795752
I recon maldamba is probably better at some situations, but grohk is fun and I have only seen him used like 3 times in comp (Im level 90)
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>>389796069
Grohk is a damage dealer with some sustain, compare him with Soldier from OW.
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>>389796045
Oh man hots was great, seriously too bad they didn't listen to the pros at beginning and didn't start making character faster enough. A moba with a pitiful roster is unacceptable. They're doing it but seriously seeing all those promos with OW and shit it seems like it's not going good for them..
the same is going to happens to overwatch i believe. Just like Smite is to Hots (better and more populars), how surprising would it be if paladins has a better competitive environment than it? And it's happening, OWL league is so cancerous while the paladins league is actually going really well, like the team that retired from the OW league actually have one in the paladins league, it's insane. OW competitive future is very unsafe atm.
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Mal Damba > Ghrok > Grover > Jenos > Ying > Seris > Pip
In terms of fun to play.
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>>389796368
Pretty sure HotS is doing better than Overwatch by now lmao
Overwatch is so fucking dried up its not even funny, meanwhile HotS has had a pretty decent release schedule and a big re-launch event. Chests are way more lucrative than in Overwatch too. Its doing pretty well right now, for what it is, so no harm in picking it up again.
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>>389793093
I really liked the idea of Beatrix in Battleborn since she's a support that doesn't necessarily heal, I wish games could come up with more "supports" that actually support in other ways than simply healing.
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>>389795785
We're gonna start getting alot fewer champs now
IIRC they wanted to get to 38 by the end of the year and after that it'll be even slower.
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>>389796498
Yeah Pip is ass, he is supposed to play like a flanker but his cooldown is too long for that shit.
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>>389795603
Grohk is great if there's a Ying on the opposing team, because her illusions are an easy conduit for shock pulses
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Mal damba is such a great character, at first I didn't like him at all, not only he looked kind goofy he felt too weak and weird to play, but with time he became one of my favorites characters in any game, it's incredible how much he rewards player skill and mastery.
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>>389796686
Medivh is pretty much a support that relies solely on utility and well timed invulnerability-shields, not a single heal in his kit. He's so finicky to play that he's classified as a "specialist" even though he's obviously a supporter.
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>>389796498
>Pip
>Not fun
All they have to do is let him heal during Weightless and keep the camera in first person during.
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Step into the light
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>>389796785
it's 1 champ a month now, really it's still very fast. I haven't seen how much is the time between new gods in smite but honestly at this point when you have more than 50-60 character it's okay to slow it down a little, but it's normal in a MOBA to expect a tons of playable character to have huge counterplay potential to any meta, like if X character is unpicked maybe Y meta will rise and X character will be found out and picked against this one creating a dynamic meta as character that counter it are being experimented by the community.
i also say that because i FUCKING HATE MIRROR MATCH REEEEE THERE'S TOO MUCH MIRROR MATCH IN OVERWATCH IT IS MAKING ME CRAZY I HATE PLAYING AGAINST MY OWN CLONES IT'S BORING WINSTON VS WINSTON IS TERRIBLY BORING STOP IT
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Sometimes I wonder how good HotS actually is. I'm kinda tired of Dota's bland cast of heroes, are HotS's heroes better at being more diverse?
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>>389793947
Battleborn is fucking dead, I literally can only play with bots.
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>>389796986
Same with Barik, those fuckers will get zapped by the lightning chad
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>>389789198
>Zen is bad
Maybe if you can't aim for shit. He has one of the highest DPS in the game.
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Fine I'll say it
YING GOT SOME BIG TITS WHERE ARE THE GOOD SFM/BLENDER ANIMATION
there i said it
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This is now a Paladins thread
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>>389795676
damb is alright, but you can just spam dem seris orbs down a hallway to keep faggots at bay

also i love her soul charge shit, exploding an enemy to get extra health or to stun them is amazing
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>>389797503
>are HotS's heroes better at being more diverse?
Well I haven't played Dota myself but I can say that HotS has really interesting and fun heroes.

At the danger of being called a shill; HotS is still HotS, the playstyle and gamefeel is still the same as it always was, more about planning and strategy and less about clutch excecution and adrenaline rushes. But once you get used to it you'll start appreciating the gameplay more. Its not really worse than anything, just completely different design philosophy, so I don't know how well you'll transition.
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Strix is going to be nerfed to shit next patch. Goddammit Low-Rez.
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>>389797503
there's a hots character that requires two players to play. One player controls the movement, the other is a turret.
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>>389797937
Damba has a stun on demand with almost zero downtime.
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I WANT TO GET STEPPED ON AND HUMILIATED BY LIAN.
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>>389790460
>tfw I'm better at her than Grover, but she still reminds me of an ex with the exact same body type right down to the insane hips
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>>389791670
I build Dagon on every support I play and I'm convinced it's the only way to play the game.
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>>389786271
>3 nerf and still going strong
So this is what it feels like to be a god.
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>>389798203
sure but it has limited range

meanwhile seris could stun someone from across the map as long as they have 4 soul charges on them
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>>389798207
*BRRRAAAP*
Smell it nasty little vermin!
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>support character is just the pipe in the cog that makes the enemy team suffer
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Who's the best tank in Paladins and why is it Ash?
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>>389786271
Why does he use the warframe symbol?
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>>389786271
>lifting some dirty flank shitter in the air and watching them get blown out of the sky
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Rubick is the most fun character I've played in any moba.Shame he was pretty overshadowed by the other supports when I quit dota
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>>389786572
>>389786921

Heroes of the Storm is a love it or hate it flavor but I appreciate that they have heroes who specialize in MAD PUSHING and if your team plays around it and you're decent(i.e. you help when the team fights matter and don't get distracted pushing/mercing or get picked off a lot) you're a good slot. And don't start with Abathur, he is a very challenging acquired taste.
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>>389786271
Garden Warfare
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>>389798452
>could stun someone from across the map as long as they have 4 soul charges on them
Sounds very situational, damba with a stunbuild can even be used to shut down ults on reaction.
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>>389798691
You are subhuman trash who will never fulfill your goals.
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>>389795583
amen brother
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>>389798265
Grover is MY tree my dudes. He's.. so.. damn.. fun to play. Like, when i was a noob i was thinking "geez he's only a spam your axes character" but then i finally used the vines and discovered the path to fun. A mobile as fuck character where vertical height count for his damage scaling that can outsnipe Kinessa and Strix a root that can fuck with anyone even if they have resilience, the stop is enough to put them at a disadvantage with the three hundred HP damage that also gives me a speed boost with a my deck, decent heals to not wait for the aftercombat heal to pop in that happens to heal your teammate but get shit on by cauterize but it's okay because you can vines away and heal without cauterize on you.
not only that, but he's a tree throwing fucking axe, as if he was saying "TAKE YOUR DAMN AXE OFF MY FRIEND YOU ASSHOLE" i thought it was wrong for him to throw axe and incoherent but now i see it more like him killing his enemy with their own weapons, hence the vines on the axe too.
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>>389799147
*PRRRRRRT*
Enjoying the smell you little swine?
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>support fill picks Jenos or Pip
>immediately pick a support myself

I dunno what it is but those two never fucking heal their team
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>>389799314
>
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>>389799283
The tree really is the best sniper.
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>>389799515
Jenos has shit healing and people think Pip is a flank.
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NO ONE ESCAPES ALLAH
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>>389799639
>Jenos has shit healing
Lol check out this silly man.
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>>389799639
>Jenos is the second best healer in game
Fixed
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>>389786271
Why is Paladins so much fucking better than Overwatch
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>>389798879
Because it's actually rockmom
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>>389799880
>>389799923
Find a worse healer than Jenos.
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>>389800119
Anyone that isn't damba. This is a fact.
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>>389799973
Overmeme is about spamming team killing ults and parasitic healing.
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>>389799973
>Paladins isn't designed entirely around counters countering counters with counters, you just pick the guy you want to play as and fucking play as him
>card loadouts and the credit/item system add some flexibility to how you can play, and make it more viable for individual players to stand out by doing well
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Cassie is S T A C K E D and most people didn't know the extent of it until summer
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>>389800193
>Jenos has better healing than Grohk, Grover, or Seris
???
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>>389790846
>not yuri
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>>389800324
Also overwatch allows you to switch heros anytime and basically rock, paper, scissors to an extent.
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>>389799973
Freedom of design, to the point where many mistakes are made, but some miracles like BK and Damba as well.
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>>389799639
> Jenos has shit healing
Oh right, that's why he has been nerfed exactly 4 times consecutively, this patch and the three other before.
>>389800362
Grover is not a healer, he's an hybdrid between a damage champion, he just happens to have an healing ability. Just like Pip. or Grohk.
Seris healing force her to commit for it, that's why she's a decent healer but can't be called "best" healer because she's not DPS and Healer like Damba and Jenos.
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>>389799741
Retribution activated on (you), anon.
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>>389800362
Why do you think they nerf him 3 times in a row if it isn't true?
>6600 heal over 12 sec for 3 different target
>this is without his healing legendary card
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>>389800646
Oops I meant 2600
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>>389800575
>>389800646
What did they nerf?
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>>389800949
Everything about him. in his backstory he's supposed to be a delusional guy pretending that he's a god with shit about stars and space itself, but he really was a god below Damba when he cames in game. I'd say DPS wise he was worse than Damba and healing wise was on par with him with only 1 healing ability as opposed to Damba's 2. He also have HUGE MOBILITY.
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>>389800575
>Grover not a healer
>just happen to have a healing skill and healing ult which is a more than the most supports
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>>389800328
So is ash under her armor
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>>389801171
He can heal through walls, that's big.
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>>389801224
He's like Pip in grohk in the sense that he's healing is not enough. It's been a while but i now forgot the terms off-healer, so yes, he's a offhealer like Grohk (he's relatable to Zen in overwatch). But if you play grover, you cannot play him as a healer, his heals is not enough and as a poster said, his healings are ENTIRELY negated when the enemy have cauterize that also applys to his ultimate.
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>play Overwatch
>Hanzo main refuses to switch and never gets on the objective, then whines about his "shit team" when we lose
>play Paladins
>Sha Lin main throws a tantrum because I was healing the tank instead of him when he was nowhere near the objective, ends the match with less objective time than anyone else on either team
Why are bow characters such fag magnets?
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>>389800324
The itens also create a sort of flow to the game, the pace of the match accelerates as characters become stronger.
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>playing Inara
>3 supports on my team
>retarded enemies pick wrecker
IMMORTAL
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>>389801829
Sha Lin is a sniper tho
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>>389801859
>3 supports and a low damage tank

how are you supposed to kill the enemy then?
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>>389802596
Some supports can be build to dish out a lot of damage tbqh
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>>389802596
You don't need to kill them if you never die anyway. They will end up getting nicked to death eventually.
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>>389802596
The enemy team was dumb enough to have auto buy on or consciously buy wrecker, he's probably fighting brainlets who will do no damage regardless of class.

A better system then ELO when?
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>>389801991
So is Hanzo
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>>389802596
The one damage/flank on the team.
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>>389801991
No he isn't
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>>389801991
Actually he's much better played as a midrange character than as a sniper.
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>>389802871
But he can switch. Sha Lin should only touch point for overtime.
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>everyone says Skye is the worst hero in the game
>she's the only flank I can kind of play
How do I git gud with flank characters, /v/?
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>>389786271
Heroes of the Storm before they nerfed the shit out of every good healer.
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>>389803231
Learn to aim.
Skye is a pubstompers, so get on the game and start playing another character if you wish to go high in the ranking. Otherwise she shit on silver and bronze and maybe gold a bit.
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>>389803231
The first (obvious) step is to keep to the namesake and actually flank their team. Some have it harder then others, but a lot of the time you'll see the really bad flanks tickling the frontline from the front.

Second is to prioritize targets.

Third >>389803492
Most flanks are pubstompers when played by someone not stupid or against stupid people.
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>>389803231
Learn to aim, flick and read the enemy team. Look for their weakness and only go in if you can actually kill someone.
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>>389803896
>>389803817
>>389803492
I'll complete that by saying that Androxus and Lex are the best flanker in this meta where Flank are sadly weak, so if you really wish to flank and be efficient, pick them. For lex, don't forget that his spread go to shit after the third bullet.
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>>389803492
A really good Skye is a nightmare in higher tiers too. She can quickly suicide dive your healer and fuck shit up
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>>389804128
>Androxus
>good flank
Unless you have heads will roll and can get headshots 100% of the time, he's pretty fucking shit.
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Sombra is pretty fun.
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>>389804316
Umm this is a Paladins thread now. Don't post Overmeme gibberish here.
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Honestly, kind of a meme answer, but Overwatch supports are pretty fun. Lucio used to be boring as shit but he's actually fun since the rework, and Mercy is going the same way. Zen's fun, Ana is kinda frustrating since the damage nerf but fun, and once you get to non-shitter tiers, you can start playing Sombra as support.

>>389794950
Aisling and Sven are REALLY fun. And Voden even thought he's kinda ass and not a real support.
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>>389804523
Mercy is objectively boring and not fun. Stop pretending her "rework" will be making her any more skillful or engaging to play, because it's not going to do that. It's making playing her even more braindead and give her another free escape after Guardian Angel that magically fix her positioning if she fuck it.
Press m1 and occasionally hop around with your guardian angel to avoid ult and damage: the character
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>>389804453
Oh. I was just making supports, my bad. Is bomb king a support?
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A little off-topic, but are these cards good?

(1/2)
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>>389804523
As a Damba player I can't fathom the level of boredom of playing a healer that just stays back and locks on to its targets.
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>>389805028
Is this a screencap for ants?
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>>389805028

(2/2)
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>>389804750
Yeah Mercy is utter ass right now, but it's pretty clear you haven't actually played the rework. She needs to get in close for res now and has actual positioning challenges and decision making now, instead of just hide and seek. There's going to be a lot of shit mercies getting punished for mistakes now which almost never happened before.

>>389805048
Mercy's whole design is a mistake, but you can blame Tf2 for that.
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>>389805141

>1024x768

The resolution here is fine, but the cards are:

Savagery 3
Street Cred 1
Patch Up 3
Walk it off 4
Chase 1
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>>389804270
All flank are shit but at least andro can still be picked at higher play.
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>>389805185
Medic is infinitely more enjoyable and fun than Mercy.
I played the new Mercy. It's the same garbage except that res is now on a 30 sec cooldown that can get reset with ult and continue otherwise. The only decisionmaking she has to do is who to rez up.
It apply to everyfuckingcharacter at different scale damn it, why do mercy mains act like positioning, timing, decision making is only something THEY have to do? Do you know how hard it is to play Winston and not get shredded instantly after your dives, continuing to tickle or not, chasing or not, using your ult or not, What is the best position to dive in so you can escape if it's getting confusing? Or Sombra? Or Torbjorn? Or junkrat? Fucking hell, Their scales of decisionmaking and brain nerves necessary are superior than Mercy for one.
This bothers me because
- Mercy main get in GM, my town
- If their shitty character is already picked, they pick another character they have not played, be it two days ago or never, so they actually play likes bronze.

PLAY ANA YOU SCRUB
PLAY FUCKING ZEN AND LUCIO
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>>389806504
It's hard to be an Ana main with the nerf.
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