Will we ever get to play as Blaze Again?

Dont you talk shit about Big you uncultered fat fuck.

>Amy was close to being in Mania
>Whitehead likes Rush and has said he will consider any modern characters depending on the time and resources they're allowed.
Trust in Whitehead. Who knows what kind of logic Sonic Team runs on.

>>389754670
She and Metal were part of the Mania team "GO TOO FARR"
Iizuka and others at Sega are legitimately too afraid to branch back out to other characters.

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>>389754670
>Whitehead likes Rush

Did not know this. Awesome.

>>389756576
Do you blame them after gaming journalism started the "FUCK SONIC'S FRIENDS" meme?

It's literally why Werehog/Wisps/Pintsize happened. Sega feels like they need filler to pad out otherwise-short Modern Sonic games but they're afraid to use other characters now.

Thanks Taxman for making Tails/Knuckles able to play through a full Sonic game for the first time since Advance 3 in 2004 (Jesus Christ Sega).

I sometimes wonder what exactly goes on in Iizuka's head.

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>>389757904
Something like the Infinite theme song playing on infinite loop.

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>>389758208
>gloveless sonic characters

Maybe in a spin off. I'd kill for a Sonic fighter with her playable. She'd be real fun with delayed fire projectiles, spin kicks and maybe a hover ability.

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>>389757510

Fucking Penders.

>>389754670
Amy in Mania would've been fun. Make her play like her SAdv 1 version plus give her the high hammer jump from SA1.

>>389760145
She already had the high hammer jump in Advance.

>>389760746
Oh right. Man it's been years since I last played Advance 1.

>>389753936
>>389754670
Amy had an interesting moveset in advance 1, but how would you make blaze playable? she was just purple sonic with most of her differences being tied into sonic rush specific mechanics

>>389754670
>Whitehead likes Rush and has said he will consider any modern characters depending on the time and resources they're allowed.
Please don't make shit up.

>>389760850
Her 'spindash' acts entirely different from Sonic and she has jet hovering boots
She's also a bit slower I think but can get more air

>>389760850
Native double jump and hovering, but low jump height like Knuckles.

>>389760850
I was thinking about a permanent fire dash (like the one Sonic does with the fire shield) but you can aim it in any direction with the d-pad, even upward.

>>389753936
Maybe they should make Sonic Rush Mania

>>389753936
No because shitty """fans""" cry about anyone but Sonic, Tails, Eggamn, and Knuckles being in games ever.

>>389760850
I'd rather she play like she didn't in advance 2

>>389762409
like sonic but shitty?

>>389762495
i meant to say like she did in advance 2

she sucked dick in 1

>>389762613
>She sucked dick in one
Only if you're not well versed in how to use her. Amy's got a lot of cool tricks for getting around quickly with hammer jumps in 1. I do think being able to roll like in 2 would be nice though; but she should totally have her hammer stuff from 1 if she ever comes back. That shit's fun as fuck.

>>389753936

Because people kept complaining about how many characters there were in the Adventure era so SEGA/Sonic Team just said "fuck it, Sonic only" from Colors onwards.

>>389762613
nah

advance 1 amy was interesting because she was slower and couldn't ball up so running around stages was problematic, but her multiple ways to jump real high, her shitty spindash replacement being able to be used on slopes or without coming to a complete stop and the huge hitbox on her hammer meant that amy was great for platforming/vertical levels, slopes and boss fights.

She had actual niches that let her approach the same levels in a different way, which is the entire idea of having non sonic characters in the first place. in advance 2 amy is just sonic with some shitty hammer moves that got nerfed like crazy instead of the useful stuff sonic has

>>389762613
>>389762780
I liked that Advance 3 basically gave you the option to use either style.

>>389762780
can go into ball on ground and jump, very slightly slower and knuckles tier jump
both ground and air hammer, can hammer while running for higher jump at max speed and can hammer springs for higher spring
air tricks please they are so cool both in a stylish sense and a mechanical sense

>>389757510
Does Penders actually own cowboy Knuckles?

>>389763140
No, but he had the hat in his shit ass future storylines.

But I think what killed OVA from all canons was when Archie Sonic referenced it in a page for it's 100 issue without Sega knowing.

>>389762918
Indeed. And the problem with that complaint is that it was literally just media buzzword bullshit. The friends were the scapegoat, when the actual issue was the half-assed nature of the alternative playstyles in most of their iterations. One of the greatest aspects of Sonic 2, S3&K, the advance trilogy, and even Adventure 1 was being able to go through the same stages in different ways that made interesting use of the characters' unique abilities. It's what made stages like red mountain in SA1 so great as well and the absence of this which makes Sonic Heroes a slog at points since that game just made every type of character almost entirely the same as every other.

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>>389763140
I've heard rumors of a weird situation where even though Knuckles's hat is from Sonic OVA and Penders didn't invent it, he's told Sega he'll sue them if they use it.

>>389763015
Yeah, Advance 3's partner system was fucking amazing.

>>389763545
Too bad the actual game was a way worse CD.

>>389763507
I've clearly not kept up with this thing because what the actual fuck is that.

>>389763641
Yeah, advance 3's level design was some serious fucking jank a lot of the time. I'd really like to see that kind of partner system implemented in a better game someday though.

>>389763427

Actually, I have to disagree. Once you got to Sonic Adventure and more so in SA2 and beyond, Sonic stopped being the main character and was really just along for the ride with the brand new characters being the only thing really driving the plot. Adding a grand-scale story to the Sonic formula really just served to unfocus things to such an extent that it became actively detrimental to the games.

>>389763641
A Ken Penders OC.

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>>389763641
>worse CD
>worse

>>389761759
No one likes OCs introduced in every new game in 2000s for the sake of OC centric edgy plot. They don't contribute to the gameplay or bring anything unique whatsoever, they're all just reskins but added for gayass reason. Name a single character with unique gameplay other than Tails or Knuckles. (Advance 1 Amy can pass.)

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>>389764119

>>389763882
I kinda feel that works for sonic (to an extent; 06 went too far and basically had him as an entirely irrelevant non-factor to the core plot). Sonic even at his best has almost never really been the "core" of a narrative, so much as the one barreling into it and fucking shit up. I actually think SA2 probably balanced it best though, wherein Dark story had all the big plot developments, while Sonic was blazing through with one-liners, dropping in meeting the president, and being an action hero in his side's story.

>>389764119
Blaze, Silver, Shadow (Battle and 06 expanded his moveset to flashy and neat chaos powers). Omega's moveset in 06 was fairly unique as well.

>>389763507
Can't they use generic cowboy hat, not the OVA one? Or maybe in different color.

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>>389764119
Vector has an eight way dash and can climb walls. It'd honestly be really cool to have Vector back or another character with a dash just to see the balls to the walls speedruns.

>>389764119
> Name a single character with unique gameplay other than Tails or Knuckles.
blaze, who plays like a slower sonic with worse jumps but has a bunch of flying abilities that basically make her a middleground between tails and knuckles

>>389764964
>Vector has an eight way dash and can climb walls.
So he's knuckles but better? The problem with all the chaotix characters is that if they were in a game with real level design they'd be too good compared to the original trio. even mighty is just sonic + a wall kick

>>389764119
blaze is cool though
and cream's mom is hot

>>389764119
Silver

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>>389764561
>>389764964
>>389765523
>>389765803
>>389765621

>Battle
Spinoff doesn't count. It's different genre.
>Blaze, Shadow
Those are exactly what I'm talking about. They're barely different from Sonic or just Sonic.
>Silver
Not really fitting for Sonic game, but I'll admit he's unique. He should just jump on enemies and use telekinesis for platforming.
>Vex
All chaotix were akin to Knuckles except Charmy being OP and Mighty being Sonic.

>>389766438
nice reddit quoting

>>389766438
>They're barely different from Sonic or just Sonic.
tails is LITERALLY sonic but he can fly/swim in every genesis game/mania, at least knuckles has a shitty jump and different levels or bosses sometimes

>>389765612
Replace the drop dash with the wall kick :^)

>>389753936
I never liked any sonic characters except for Metal Sonic and Blaze

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Can Joker be the new Sanic friend?

A two-button game (not including the super transformation button) could be used to make characters all kinds of unique.

>>389766659
I'll label you retarded for saying flying is nothing.

>>389753936
Her shoes are really cute.