That one character you NEVER choose in Smash. Who is it, /v/?

Wario

>>389749787
Everyone because Smash is a casual party game.

anyone that isn't Olimar or Shulk

>>389749892
>he hates fun

>>389749787
>>>389749787
ii fit trainer

The Mii Fighters because half the time they arent even playable.

>>389749787
Sonic. I hate his moveset and I hate the people who play him. Nothing against the character specifically, but his playstyle is just obnoxious. Everyone else I've played a decent amount of.

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Falcon and Falco because they control like hot garbage in 4.

I like 4 but those two characters will always suck ass to play with no jump momentum

>>389749787
Lucina, because I hate her guts.

>the Pits
>Olimar
>Wii Fit Trainer
>Duck Hunt
>Palutena
>Wario

the ones i both never play and have basically never seen on For Glory or playing in random places with friends/college

>>389749787
>one
luigi
peach
bowser
rosalina
bowser jr
palutena
robin
duck hunt
greninja
rob
villager
olimar
shulk
all the costume changes
Maybe the biggest reason tr4sh is so bad is because there are too many "literally who" characters.

>>389749787
Jigglypuff

palutena, really slow smash plus she isn't that fun to play in general

>>389750893
If you think most of these are literally who then you must be hiding under a rock. I haven't played about 50% of the games the roster is from but I still no who everyone is.

>>389749787
In Smash 4? Good gameplay, because it isn't even there.

The DLC characters
I don't have them

Dark Pit

>>389750893
>there are too many "literally who" characters.

yeah these character "represent" nintendo but in a vacuum theyre thematically lame as shit and also play like shit since crafting a believable moveset for them may not lend itself well to being fun

/v/ will outpour saying they loved these characters but if shit like WFT/Miis/Duck Hunt/Palutena were gone in Smash 5 very few would give a shit

pikachu

too light, annoying voice and hitbox and I hate his recovery move

>>389751087
see >>389751228

>>389749787
Shulk. I don't why but he feels weird to play as.

>>389749787

Pit.

Strictly shittier than Dark Pit.

>>389750346
Pretty much all characters feel bad and floaty with no momentum jumps. I agree though, I feel bad for people who are newer to the series and don't know how great it feels to be able to position your character at any place in a moment. Hitboxes and priority is also just dumb in the newer games.

>>389749787
Palutena, Shulk, Olimar

samus and wario

>>389752447
>>389752707

Learn to use your Monado arts. He may not be the best competitive character but he's the most versatile.

>>389751228
More like the characters are bad so even interesting ideas are no longer interesting. That and the game promotes camping or setplay, making mediocre characters even more boring to play. Bowser is pivotgrab spam, Platutena is dthrow and bair/dash attack, WFT is runaway with ftilt thrown in, Duck Hunt is just run away can/frisbie/gunman spam with the occasional throw combo.

Pit I guess? Theyre all pretty fun.

>>389752865
I didn't know spacing bair over and over and over while occasionally trying to nair into grab was versatile.

>>389749787
Yoshi. I've never liked playing as yoshi in any smash game

>>389749787
Miis, ROB, Olimar
To be honest I feel like a total asshole when playing these characters anyways.

>>389750893
>luigi
>peach
>bowser
>rosalina
>bowser jr
>palutena
>literally who

Any character who is built around running away
>yoshi
>bowser jr
>link
>Tink
>Samus
>robin
>Duck Hunt
>ROB
>Villager
>Olimar
>WFT
>Sonic
>Mewtwo
>Cloud
You could make cases for others. Hardly anyone fucking approaches in this game, and even if it's a character like Marth, almost everyone just does a fading aerial into a roll because they want matches to take fucking forever. Or you get to play vs someone like a Luigi that just spams fireball and then tries to dashgrab. If he whiffs, he will just try to grab over and over until he gets one.

>>389749787
I main the Question Man, so I play a little bit of everyone.

fuck jigglypuff
fuck Ness

>person who airdodges everytime they jump
zzzz

>>389749787
Marth
Pit
Palutena
Robin
Fox
Falco
Shulk
Dark Pit
Lucina
Roy
Cloud
Corrin

These should all be deleted

>>389752906

Duck Hunt in a game with good physics would be fun (also less boring specials, maybe)

his big ass jumps and spacing with normals would be fun if jump momentum existed and you didnt float around like an idiot

>>389754754
You forgot Ike

Ganon
Wario
mr G&W
palutena
pikachu
both pit wish dark pit had some of the weapons from uprising

A majority of the roster surprisingly. Weird thing is I like playing megaman and wii fit trainer even though I could probably play some of the guys from my dont touch list better. I want to play the game too but the fucking game play counter and game start counter irks my autism so I try not to start games without playing them for a good long chunk of time. Wish I had it on sleep mode on my 3ds.

>>389749892
FGCuck mad that traditional shit is dying.

>>389751157
top kek

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No "projectile fags" for me besides the occasional Dedede. I hate bullet hell tactics with a passion and only really main Ganon and C. Falcon.

>>389749787
Ryu

sheik and lucario roy too

>>389749787
Dark pit.
I don't think he is bad or anything, but at no point in my brain i see any reason to play this character.

>>389749787
Bayonetta

>>389749892
You say that but I'd bet everything that I'd kick yer ass at it scrub.

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>>389761856
Then why did you buy her?

Dedede.

Fuck those that spam Gordos.

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>>389762186
I didn't

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>>389762225

>Dedede

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>>389749787
I used to use Bowser a lot in Sm4sh, but fuck that game.
PM is where it's at.

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>>389749787
>That one character you NEVER choose in Smash.
>Who is it, /v/?
>>389761856
>Bayonetta
>>389762186
>Then why did you buy her?
>>389762307
>I didn't

>>389749787
corrin, rob, ness, lucina, dark pit, lucario and toon link

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>>389762225

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Wario
Zelda
Robin
Rob
Olimar
Shulk
Dark pit
Mega man
Sonic
Cloud

>>389762420
I haven't played Lucas, Corrin or Roy either.

Cloud

He feels gross as fuck to play as just because he's too good

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>>389749787
Cloud because hes boring as fuck and every single faggot online plays him. Clobbering faggot yugioh haired boys and girl marth gets boring after a while

>>389749787
>pic
>Bayonetta, Cloud, Pac Man, Sonic, Mega Man, Ryu
>Corrin
For fucks sake, could at least chosen Link or Pikachu.
I don't use any DLC but Mewtwo, Ryu and Cloud, don't use Palutena I guess, same goes for the shit clones.

>>389763412
>every single faggot online plays him
Don't you mean Mario?
>Approaching Dair
>lagless landing
>grab
>dthrow
>uptiltuptiltuptiltuptiltuptilt
>upairupairupair
>upB
>70% HP
>spend the rest of the match endlessly throwing out high priority dairs, instantaneous nairs, too-powerful dairs or sliding across the stage spamming upsmashes
>sure to be fludded or caped off stage recoveries
It's not that I can't beat them, it's that they're fucking UBIQUITOUS and they all play like they watched EVO recently

Robin
Pit/Dark Pit
Olimar

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Peach
Bowser
Yoshi
Rosalina
Wario
G&W
Samus
ZSS
Ike
Kirby
Dedede ever since the infinite was patched
Meta Knight
Pikachu
Charizard
Jigglypuff
ROB
Villager
Pacman
Mewtwo
Bayonetta

So basically, half the entire roster I don't even play as.

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I despise playing against these characters online, so that's part of the reason why I don't use them. I played my fair share of battles too.

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>>389763934
How many is "fair share?"

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>joins your 1v1 match

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>>389764379

From an online standpoint? Quite a bit. More focused on my mains though.

>>389764379
>twenty thousand matches+
Yeesh

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>>389764379
>Cloud in front of Shulk

You disgust me.

Olimar and Bowser Jr.

Lucina is literally pointless with Roy in

>>389765761
I played him a lot when he was released. Hadn't played a fighter with Cloud in it since Ehrgeiz.

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>>389750893
>greninja
>Literally who

Friendly reminder that his trailer is LITERALLY the most viewed Smash Wii U/3DS character trailer on Youtube and that Pokemon is nowadays arguably the biggest Multimedia IP yet. You people are delusional and retarded.

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>>389749787
In all my matches with friends, i don't think i've ever seen anyone pick Sheik.

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>>389750893
>literally who
>the most famous Nintendo classic icons like Duck Hunt and R.O.B.
>the most famous sidekicks and villains of the most popular franchise that Nintendo owns, all from previous iterations of Super Smash Brothers, like Luigi, Bowser, Peach,
>the most famous contemporary Nintendo product rival protagonists that -literally- acquiesce to fan demand like Sonic the Hedgehog, Megaman, Cloud
>all the costume changes "wah, Samus has different suits that reflect her different suits from the Prime series!!"
You are an enormous queer. I bet you never played with custom movesets on, either, have you, nancieboy?

>>389755095
butthurt Roybaby/waifufag detected

>>389768141
>16% to 249% and instant KO off counter
geez

>>389749787

There are 3 I never pick. Villager, Olimar and Sonic. Villager is too campy, Olimar is too weirdly designed and Sonic is a scrub character.

>>389763412

>It's a FG Cloud does up air, up air, up air episode

>>389749787
>Robin
>Lucario
>Mewtwo
>Charizard
>Palutena
>Shulk
Mainly because I suck at using them.

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>>389768424
I love custom movesets. Custom equipment is fine, but I absolutely wish there was a For Glory mode that allowed custom movesets, just no equipment.

I wonder how many forget the game even HAS custom moves? Everyone except DLC characters have 12 different specials they can pick from that range from mildly altering its properties to wildly exchanging entire attacks. Characters like Megaman or Palutena become insanely different, characters like Ganondorf or Bowser gain all the things many ask for and characters like Charizard and Lucario become unpredictable calamities.

But no. Sm4sh is "limited" with "clones" and "literally who's" or people can't not use equipment to bounce around at the top of the screen as Jigglypuff for 6 minutes.

>>389749892
This is why you don't have friends, think about it

>>389769139
My problem with them is that they are a pain in the ass to unlock them all, I wish you could use the game money to buy them too instead of just having the purpose of playing the trophy minigame and special orders

>>389769139
Any other webms?

>>389749787
the only fire emblem character i like is ike and i don't care for any of the "princess" characters
i don't like shulk or olimar either

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>>389770030
Yeah, that is kinda true. Some are from the awful board game stuff or pretty much luck-based to get and I wouldn't be surprised if there are customs moves I still don't have.

>>389770051
yeah

>>389749787
duck hunt, was a piece of shit.

>>389770318
Ain't nothin' gonna hold me down
>Ain't Nothin' Gonna Hold Mii Down
okay, fine, show m

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>>389770629
Oh no~! I've got to keep on moo~vin'~

>>389770778
Is that a mii of Ridley in Aliens? I've never seen that costume. And aren't you picking on Peach, there, c'mon.

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>>389749892

>>389749787

Blue Space Peach, or whatever her name was

>>389750349
This

>>389749787
Little Mac.

>>389749787
Wario, Duck Hunt, Olimar and Wii Fit Trainer.

>>389768767
Villager is my guilty pleasure. I've had so many great fights killing goes with trees. To the point one of my buddies just gets triggered from the sight of Villager.

>>389749787
Probably Robin, never really could get a good hang of the character as I could with some of the others.

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>>389750349
>>389771460

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>>389771585
Robin is the reason for my favorite Sm4sh webmFG really has some easy folks

>>389771971
What the hell was that bounce???

Kirby

No one likes that piece of shit

>>389749787
Mega Man
I just can't get used to the jab being a shoot

>>389749787
>Peach
>Little Mac
>Lucario
>Ryu
I've pretty much never touched these guys

>>389749787
LUCARIO

I just don't understand why Ike is included in a Nintendo All Star game. Radiant Dawn was a disaster for IS. It'd be like if the main character from Spirits Within showed up in Dissidia.

>>389772230
DK got hit into the wall and missed his wall tech

I like the game, but I've barely touched a lot of the fighters. I have a strong predilection to the sword-users, short of Cloud, who I don't think really fits the game's aesthetic. Dark Pit is also a lot of fun. He has a much cooler Side-B.

Dr Mario, Lucina, and Dark Pit.

>>389772823
At 47 percent, from a move that should be for recovery and nothing else, as a very heavy character, in the direction opposite the the angle of incidence instead of bouncing off the wall logically

Seeing as how I only play Gren, Ike, Megaman, Falcon/Dorf, and Dedede there's more than one character I never pick.

>>389773153
>Smash is silly and a lot of things that happen make no real sense
WHOA STOP THE FUCKING PRESSES GODDAMN

>>389749787
>Luigi
Too floaty and not fast enough for me, not enough OOMPF to his hits
>Rosalina
I just can't get my head around her playstyle
>Bowser JR
Fuck this kid, he sucks
>Olimar
Eh, just don't care enough
>Palutena
I honestly don't understand how there are people who can play her, she's trash.
Every other character I've played and actually know, if just loosely, how to use and play.

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>>389772230
>>389772823
>>389773153
>>389773729
Lucina has quite the hitbox.

Miis because I hate being myself and have no friends either

>>389772817
He's the most popular character in the franchise. Even Lucina, who they tout alongside Marth, as the flagship of the series for the past ten years, falls behind Ike's popularity.

And Smash is a popular nintendo character fighter.

>>389773968
>I honestly don't understand how there are people who can play her, she's trash.
Her customs can make her, undoubtedly, the best fighter in the game.

>>389753552
>>389767107
>>389768141
>can't see quotes
Many of these characters bring nothing toward the game except the novelty of "FUCK YEA, [character I like] IS GETTING IN SM4SH
Brawl brought 2 random guys and both were interesting additions that made the game deeper, not cheaper.

>>389772817
Same reason Captain Falcon is still in even though he hasn't had a game in two decades. He's got good character design

>>389775392

>good character design
>dash grab, dash grab, dash grab

I'm in the minority that thinks Falcon is a scrub character. I mean, not like Cloud or whatever, but I just don't really respect Falcon players. It's all flowchart shit. Dash grab, down throw, then they try the knee. If you're off stage, they're guaranteed to try and d-air you. It's all the same shit. No Falcon plays different. Not in Smash 4 anyway.

>>389749787
Rosalina. Can't fucking stand her. I play some cancer characters myself but nothing pisses me off like Rosalina.

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>>389749787
any character who isn't manly or cartoonishly cute

>>389749787
Bowser Jr.

>>389775692

Who do you play? I guarantee you they are more cancerous than Rosa. I don't main her, but I think she takes the most skill of scrub characters

>>389751228
Duck Hunt is fucking cool though

>>389776060

There's nothing cool about that campy ass character. Fuck him and anyone that uses him.

>>389749787
duck hunt

>>389775514
>Misinterpretation 101

>>389767107
Pokemon is the biggest media franchise, by revenue

In second is Star Wars iirc

>>389776147
I mean, in concept its genius.

>>389775030
>2 random guys
Please tell me, who were those "2 random guys" you spoke of? I'd be happy to see the two characters in Super Smash Brothers Brawl that were brought in "randomly" and made the game deeper, not cheaper.

Who were they again? I forgot!

My biggest problem with smash4 is the fucking ceilings
Why does each stage extend so fucking far up

>>389749787
Flautuna

Olimar
boring garbage character

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>>389775632
Nice

>>389777098
Im assumming sonic and snake
But ya honestly brawl added the last of the "must have" characters: Wario, Dedede, Meta Knight, etc.

I cant think of many characters who would be necessary at this point. Aside from Inkling of course and maybe Spring Man.

>>389777312

T o a d

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>>389777312
>sonic and snake
>not deeper and cheaper

>>389749787
Lucario and Sheik. Shitty ass characters that could disappear from the next installments in favor of others.

>>389778007
Sheik is like top-tier behind Fox bro lol

>>389749787
I will never not be mad on how bad they fucked Ness and Wario

Most of the females, for some reason. Just don't like their playstyles
Peach, Samus, and I guess Wii Fit are pretty alright though

>>389749857
Literally my main you faggot.
I don't pick Pokemon (Except Jigglypuff) or Fire emblem characters.

>>389777098
Sonic and Snake were pretty out of place, that's why I said random.
Sonic had flaws but was still fun to use.
Snake had all those explosives that felt satisfying to use.

Only a well liked Nintendo character should get in smash with a couple guest characters at a time. Tr4sh has them make up half its roster and it feels like a bloated, lifeless mess.

How has no one said mario yet

>>389775825
Duck Hunt and Dark Pit. I've been called many things for playing either of them. I also play some less-hated characters like Ike but that's irrelevant.

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>>389778142
Ness is fine?

>>389772230
There are lots of janky edges in this game (teching is janky as well). The more you know about the game, the less you will like it.
>There are untechable situations based entirely on RNG

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>>389749787
>Shulk - nice gimmick but inferior to Waifu Emblem-ers.
>any Zelda characters - usually only played by beginners and spammers
>Wario - 'cuz he's ugly

Also typically the final Pay2Win trio unless the other player frequently does so.

>>389778540
Buffs to his PKThunder FSmash are ok but his Dair suffered greatly

>>389778175
>Only a well liked Nintendo character should get in smash
Didn't you mean "only a PERSONALLY well liked Nintendo character"?
>with a couple guest characters at a time.
Melee more than doubled in size, adding 14 characters
>Tr4sh has them make up half its roster
Referring to "guest" characters? because that's...4 characters? 3 if you count Bayonetta since Bayonetta 2 was a Wii U release. Or maybe you refer to not "well liked" characters, which is 100% subjective nonsense.
>bloated, lifeless mass
It's not bloated and "lifeless" is a laugh if you've ever seen 4chan, EVO, current online or the idea of a Smash 5 coming any time soon. Hell, I bet you think it's "lifeless" because Mario, Cloud and Shiek show up in bigtime events.

Wii Fit Trainer.

At the time they were announced and post release I thought it was funny and Sakurai was a master troll, but as time went on the joke outstayed it's welcome.

>>389778142

Ness is way better than he was on Melee and Brawl.

>>389776316
Not really. His mistake is not realizing that every character in the game is flowchart shit. Some characters just have more effective flowcharts than others. Falcon gets dthrow into either nair or uair, percent specific knees, and then it turns into 50/50 stuff. That's his entire gameplan. The game doesn't reward stray hits with any real conversion so setplay goes in.

Shiek
Boring design, boring moveset, there's just nothing to have fun with about her to me. She's even boring to fight against.

>>389778963
I think the idea of lifeless is how similarly a lot of the cast plays with the whole gameplan of a good portion being throw->aerial because movement is restricted and besides silly stuff like footstools, jablocks, or utilt spam, there aren't many combos that aren't part of grabs.

according to the in-game stats, it is olimar by a long shot. even jigglypuff is much further ahead of him. makes sense though because i despise everything about olimar's play style.

>>389779541
meant for >>389778963

>>389780665

Olimar is great for trolling people who don't know what they're doing.

>>389780248
So, the entirety of the Smash series is lifeless to you?

>>389749787
i can't think of a character i didn't try at least once, i mean i literally tried out the entire roster when playing online even if i lost most of the time

>>389780665

where did you get this info, because i want it

i guess i got spoiled by other games in regard, but im hungry for usage and win statistics for characers in this game

i guarantee its fucking dire, with a pretty sizable chunk collectively not played at all (olimar, WFT, duck hunt, wario, pits, etc.)

>>389780982
Only Brawl and Smash 4 are that way due to the changes in DI, dodges, movement, and landing detection.

I don't play weeabo cunt with a sword.

My main is bowser.

>>389781234
That's because balance is terrible. The pits probably do okay, but characters like WFT have shit for shit and ones like Olimar involve a bit more knowledge with the trade of having to pivot grab and slam around on the c-stick.

>>389781315
>only brawl and smash has throw-->tilt or aerial combos
>not 64 or melee, they have momentum!
????????????????????????

>>389781563
They have way more options than just small amounts of setplay stuff. Are you being willfully ignorant here?

>>389749787
Wii fit trainer because it's the stupidiest idea for a fighting game character ever

INB4 "not a fighting game"

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>>389772634
This. Most of my friend moved on to Greninja and we haven't used Lucario in ages. Shame that they ain't gonna get rid of him.

>>389781691
>They have an direction airdodge
>They disallow ledge trumping
I dunno, pretty even, I'd say.
>BUT WAVEDASHING AND EDGEGUARDING
are gay and only about 3 of your roster wavedash well

Rosalina because i was not born with Dabuz' turboautism

>mfw my main is Wii Fit Trainer

>>389781963
You know the stupidest idea? What's the smartest idea? I don't need a name or vague requirements, and it seems you know specifics and whatnot, since Wii Fit Trainer embodies yoga posing and graceful movement with everyday objects and that's the stupidest idea.

>>389769139
>Instant kill counter off a simple n-air
>Retards actually think this is a good thing
No. Fuck off.

>>389773153
Look closer my friend. The part of the stage that he hit was not perfectly flat. It was a little corner sticking out from the wall.

>>389777157
Play Dreamland on sm4sh

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>>389749892
This guy knows

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>>389784098
They have massive statboosting equipment on. On top of Ike's "Power Counter" special.

my least played characters are wii fit, g&w, and miis, olimar, and Ness.

>>389749787
I only choose Charizard and Bowser, everybody else is for retards who like to throw random shit and not be punished because of low cooldown and small hurtboxes

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>>389784879
hear hear

hello.

fuck all niggers

Shiek, Olimar, Duck Hunt, and Samus

>>389785264
I laugh when some retarded Bayonetta does some stupid shit hoping it will hit but then I Flare Blitz them and kill them, online Bayonettas can't block

>>389749787
just realized ive literally never willingly played pikachu (aside from events) in any of the smash games except in 64 like once

How come there isn't another Sm4sh /v/eekend thread up like yesterday, yet?

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>>389786278
Charizard is my go-to to stuff Marios and Bayonettas. They can't do shit against a flamethrower or armor.

Dr. Mario
Dark Pit
Lucina

Palutena, little mac, ddd, meta knight, lucario and villager are easily my worst characters since I never play them.

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>>389784879
but Charizard and Bowser are grab to win flowcharts unlike honest Ganondorf.

>>389751228
maybe you're better off playing function vs function or mugen

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>>389787779
>Charizard
>grab to win flowchart
no

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I never played ike or marth.

Any tourney fags around here? What region?