The only three types of game this country can make are: >JRPGs

rhythm games

>>389722087
Good games

text based adventure
gacha
relationship simulator

fighting games
porn games

>>389722087
Don't forget, lewd games

>only three types of games
>lists 4 types of games

>>389722087
head-patting simulators

>>389722087
Fighting games

Rhythm games. Next question, kid.

>>389722087

Nah, you're right.

Those are also the only genres worth playing though, so what's the issue?

>>389723023
>amercan education

>>389722087
They literally created the genre of Souls-like just a few years ago. The west has been trying to make a decent game in that genre and failed again and again (Looking at you Dragon's Dogma).

3rd person shooters
Puzzle games

>>389722087
>[something inflammatory]
>refute it with [something extremely specific]

>>389722087

Fighting
Racing
Rhythm
Puzzle

there's probably more that I'm not thinking of

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>>389722087
Porn games.

>>389722087
Fighting games
Rhythm games
Racing games
Visual novels
Puzzle games

ero games
Bunny black 2 is better than any RTS and turnbased game

>>389723872
It's a bait thread my laddy

>>389722087
>only three types
>names 4

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>>389722250
/v/ is too casual to appreciate rhythm games

>>389722087
Anything that isn't shitty western genre with muh open world to compensate the shit gameplay

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Those genres are nice though. I don't really play anything else honestly.

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>>389722087
pachinko.

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>>389722087
Fighting games
Survival horrors
sidescrollers shooters/beat em ups
metrovanias

Better question: Is there a genre that they don't do better except for the ones they don't bother making at all like FPS or RTS?

>>389725283
japan can't make any sort of strategy games so all their games are pure action skill or mindless grinding

>>389723979
>Visual Novels
>games

>>389725283
They can't make any genre that offers complexity.

>>389723979
VNs are not games you fucking retarded weeb

>>389725452
>>389725373

just fighting games offer way more complexity and mechanical depth than 99% of the typical "wide as an ocead but shallow as a puddle" western games

>>389725678
mechanical depth isn't strategy

JRPGs aren't one type of game, you fucking retard.

>>389725373
>japan can't make any sort of strategy games
Not true, their strategy/tactical RPG are solid, but yes it's action where they outshine the west easily

>>389722087


The Nips make the best
>JRPGs (no shit)
>Shmups
>Rhythm games

Burgerclaps make the best
>FPS (we made Doom, no arguments there)

Brits make the best
>Racing games

Eastern Euros make the best
>WRPGs

Japs and Brits are neck and neck for best platformers


Chinks and Ruskies are neck and neck for best bootlegs

>>389722087
how the fuck do you even miss fighting games?

>>389725969
>Eastern Euros make the best WRPGs
The Witcher 3 is one game you meme loving fuck

>>389725969
>Japs and Brits are neck and neck for best platformers
kek it's not even close, japs wreck anyone there

>>389725969
Fair points. He didn't say best though and Japan does do well at a lot of genre. Hell at least they still make a variety of genre that about wins by default.

>>389725970
White people don't play fighting games because they're shit at them.

>>389726173
t. DeShawn

>>389722087
Japs can't make good RTS, city builder, and mech sim games (they only make mech arcade games) so I'll give OP that much credit. Then again those genres are dead in the west as well so it's a moot point.

>>389726241
Never thought about RTS in those terms. You would think that would be a popular genre in Japan given Shogi and Go.

Horror games. Silent Hill 2 is still the best.

>>389726120

>Forgetting that Rare is based in Bongland

They made some of the best platformers for the SNES and N64 amigo. Cmon.

>>389726241
>RTS
They pretty much invented the genre and Westwood followed

>city builder
Some of the memorable old Sim city were adapted by Nintendo

>they only make mech arcade games
good thing, mech sim is shit

>>389722087
Uh, that's four.

>>389726580
maybe in 3D the west is a bit more on par (never cared much about 3D plats), but in 2D the japs fucking wreck it

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>>389722087
You forgot fighting games

>>389723879
>Dragon's Dogma
>Western
It was developed by Capcom and directed by fucking Itsuno of DMC fame you silly fuck.

>>389726580
They peaked on Battletoads. No shame in that it was a damn fun game.

>>389726824
Pleb didn't even got Pushed by the Wind I bet

>>389726961
Didn't even drink his Anodyne.

>>389726241
You forgot
>RPGs where you actually roleplay, or where the RPG mechanics extend to the plot in any way, shape or form
>FPS
>puzzle games where you have more than one set and very specific solution
>Stealth games beyond the one series they have (MGS)
>adventure games that aren't just VNs with puzzles crammed in

>>389725678
Fighting games offer no complexity at all. They just offer depth.

>>389723879
The West "literally creates" tons of genres, but those never count 'cause muh superior japan.

kek at weebs saying japs are good at making puzzle game. Spacechem is a decent western puzzle and that single game game have god-tier puzzles than literally all jap puzzle game combined.

>>389726605
>They pretty much invented the genre
No they fucking didn't, the Herzog series literally ripped off a spaniard RTS a year earlier .

>>389722087
Literally the only thing japan is great at is making the best A games. Anything else sucks dick.

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>>389726241
>Japs can't make good RTS, city builder, and mech sim games
>mech sim games

There was once an anon.
He was an imbecile of epic proportions.
He tried to bait people.
He failed.
And got his family harassed on Facebook.
The end.

We'll send you more horse cocks, dear Lee. Don't worry.

>>389727168
Tons? m8 nearly all vidya genres were invented by westerner. The weebs don't want to admit that because it actually disrupts the narrative. They are after all the embodiment of CNN: online autist edition.

>>389723979
>Fighting games
This generation got BTFO by KI and Injustice 2. Last gen Skullgirls was the most complete fighter.

>Racing
Project CARS and Assetto Corsa are the best racing games on the market, nothing comes close to Assetto Corsa's feedback

>Puzzle games and Rhythm games
Not even worth mentioning. Nothing from Japan is amazing and they're going against shit like Audiosurf and Portal.

>>389725963
>their strategy/tactical RPG are solid
No they aren't. Their strategy games are shit compared to the west. Fire Emblem and FFT are a joke compared to any 4x and even nu-Xcom is better.

>>389727510
Audiosurf isn't even a rhythm game you retard.

>>389727510
Lmao Audiosurf.

>>389727232
>kek at weebs saying japs are good at making puzzle game
They are though fag, west might be good at "home" puzzle game like Spacechem or Portal, but japs are excellent at arcade puzzle games.

>the Herzog series literally ripped off a spaniard RTS
Which game? they most likely didn't even know the existence about that shit, and Herzog Zwei expanded over anything made before which is why it's the main inspiration for westwood

Is Rhythm games even an argument? It's a niche genre and the only game that really relies on rhythm alone is the Rhythm Heaven series.

>>389727406
I can't think of genre the west didn't invent. Even JRPGs forked from old DnD video games. The west was at it years before Japan got started on games. Its not really any different to how Disney inspired anime which later inspire at resurgence in Disney.

But the OP was about making good games in genre and Japan hits most genre pretty well save for a few. And most of those are fairly dead in the west too sadly.

Ideas are usually built of the work that came before. Rarely can one person or place claim invention since often the idea is there long before, but the materials or culture or some other aspect that will give rise to it comes later.

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>>389727510
there is no reaction image that could possibly mock you enough

>>389725452
Define "complexity."

>>389727908
>>389727732
>>389727647
>Retards BTFO

Get rekt weebs. Go back to your Persona 5 VNs.

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>>389722087
>The only three types of game this country can make are:

>>389727860
>It's a niche genre
Yes, and?

>>389727406
>m8 nearly all vidya genres were invented by westerner.

M8, Japan literally invented modern gaming. Game companies, game publishers, games with stories, games pushing hardware, consoles, handheld consoles, mobile gaming,...
Western gaming fell apart back in 1983.

>>389728010
japan only invented console gaming, and even then they're falling behind in that

>>389727946
haha gay

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The best rhythm games are from the west though.

>>389727942
Hard to learn and even harder to master.

>>389727769
>japs are excellent at arcade puzzle games.
AHAHAHAHAHA oh man this is funny. Alright let's see those excellent arcade puzzle game. I have a gut feeling you're going to post one of those le fast Tetris meme, showing that they actually can't made puzzle game for shit.

>Which game?
Nether Earth you fag. Here's a short description
>The player controls a flying machine which can fly over any part of the play-area and is used to command the player's bases and robots. In essence it replaces a mouse cursor, but it can hinder the robots' movement. The player must build robots and give them orders to seek out and attack Insignian robots and capture neutral or enemy factories to increase production and thus aid the war effort. Once a robot is issued an order it will keep being active until all its targets have been conquered or destroyed, the robot itself is destroyed, or other orders are received. The ultimate objective is to capture or destroy all the enemy bases and thus win the war. Everything takes place in real-time with the action being ongoing rather than turn-based. Because the player's view of the battlefield is limited to where their flying-machine is, much of the front-line fighting is left to the machines whilst the player concentrates on building more robots. However the player can choose to take direct control over one of his/her robots and effectively use it in a commando style to capture factories and bases and to destroy enemy robots. The game is displayed in forced-perspective isometric graphics.

Also my mistake it was made by the eternal anglo not a Spaniard.

>>389728059
Japs were pretty fucking good at arcade gaming too, while americans gave up like in mid 80s and the only thing they had in the 90s was some lackluster Midway games

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>>389728072
This is unironically the most innovative and indepth game in the genre

Weeb games are terrible. You have to be an autistic subhuman to enjoy them.

Taiko's a rhythm game

https://youtu.be/qaB8xEik488

>>389728059
>japan only invented console gaming
Nah m8, a kike invented that shit.

>>389727946
have you ever played DDR or was it too intimidating the first time you saw it? are you physically capable of playing?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhythm_game
>audiosurf is not even mentioned on this page

can you even pass 5.1.1. on IIDX? i don't care if you have rhythm, can you even play the game?

persona is boring as shit who likes to grind?

rhythm games are about muscle memory and perfection. playing a simple game over and over and absolutely mastering it. like becoming a tetris master

you probably don't even play tetris well so why am i bothering...

>>389728059
Console gaming invented most of the kinds of games and genres popular today.
FPS is one of the very few genres that didn't get their start directly on Japanese consoles. The other is simulators which jumped from arcades to PC.

RTS games are just real time TBS which is a console genre. modern RPGs are all derived from the console RPGs. Racing games are obvious as they couldn't even be made back in the Atari days. And so on and on.
The whole notion of PC gaming doesn't really start until GPUs come into play and their sole purpose is to allow you to play console-like games on your PC.

>>389722087
>>character action
This is not a genre.

>>389728010
>Game companies
Activision (1979)
>game publishers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_game_publishers
Sort by est.date
>games with stories
Text adventures
>games pushing hardware
Literally the first computer games
>consoles
Magnavox Odyssey (1972)
>handheld consoles
Microvision (1979)
>mobile gaming
If you mean ios/android games, it all started even before Japs stopped using i-mode phones

>>389728267
rhythm games are the stupidest, most degenerate genre of video games out there

>>389728332
only because you are casual as fuck

>>389728267
>Audiosurf is a puzzle/rhythm hybrid game created by Invisible Handlebar,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audiosurf

>rhythm games are about muscle memory and perfection. playing a simple game over and over and absolutely mastering it
Good thing I play fighting games that have that with combos plus some actual depth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GswrlNpfDTo
>b-b-but western rhythm games are good!

>>389728284
>RTS games are just real time TBS which is a console genre
this is such a stupid statement on so many levels
RTS games are nothing like turn based games, and turn based games existed on computers and as board games for millenia before electronics were even invented

and PC games existed for a long time before GPUs and gave root to alot of the console shit people play today, like RPGs

>>389726173
I moved to Australia and there is NO fgc here and when you ask anyone it's because they get too angry about losing.

>>389728137
>le fast Tetris meme
What's the matter faggot, too shit execution and reflexes to play real puzzle games so you have to rely to slowass shit?

>Nether earth
Looks promising but still archaic as fuck due to shit hardware, not as fresh as Herzog Zwei

>>389728365
I enjoy do things more mentally demanding than tapping in tune with a rhythm, like playing actual music for one thing

>>389725969
> (we made Doom, no arguments there)
I got an argument. Doom came out in 1993. What has Burgerland done in the 21'st century? Nothing special. You need to use the past tense, not the present tense. Because NOW Croatia makes the good FPS.

Rapelay

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>>389728127
A-train games are harder than transport tycoon and it's clones.

>>389728319
Which part of "modern" did you not get.
Yes, there has been some shit you could kind of class as this or that but it amounts to nothing because it was a dead-end and everyone picked up the Japanese models instead.

Da Vinci drew up robots, helicopters and all sorts of other shit. That doesn't make him the inventor of said shit, it makes him someone who had the same idea but it never went anywhere.

>>389728480
MOBA? MMORPG?

>>389728476
PLEASE post some music you made sempai

>>389728531
Which part of "invented" did you not get?
Japs can't think of anything by themselves, they only rip off what's been done before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLENLNaTYt0

>rhythm games are just "tapping to a beat"

>>389722087
And what about my anime tiddy gaems?

>>389722087
fun games

>>389728613
is your post meant to be ironic because that's exactly what's happening in that video

>>389728628
god forbid

>>389728428
>RTS games are nothing like turn based games, and turn based games existed on computers

RTS games were made with a single idea in mind. The TBS games are grand as fuck but why not make them move?
Go look into interviews with Westwood staff, or Blizzard staff or even as late as Ensemble staff. All cite the same reasons.

Turn base shit existed on PC but turn based strategy games were generally a console thing. Likewise, the RPGs that existed back then on PC were actually so different from a modern (console) RPG that people made up new genres to put them in solely to differentiate them. Rogue-likes, Legend of Grimlock clones and so on.

>>389724181
you could attribute it that if you want, i wont stop you

but i dont play rhythm games for the same reason i dont play guitar hero shit

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flight simulators

>>389725392
>>389725598
t. reddit

>>389728672
you probably think professional athletes are all hacks too don't you

>>389728414
That's weak shit anon. Here watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qhJ_LoJAM4

>Games I'm not good at aren't complex!
>Games I don't like aren't complex!

>>389727376
I've still got mine

>>389723862
>JRPG
>Worth playing

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>>389728765

>>389728743
Turn based strategy games were one of the first types of electronic games and they existed on PCs well before the NES. The PC has always dominated in strategy games cause they don't play that well with a controller. And it doesn't matter what inspired westwood and blizzard, the end result is so different it's meaningless to compare them

>>389728943
Look mom, I said it again!

Yakuza's a beat em up right?

>>389728950
>we live in an age where no new Nicolas Cage memes appear anymore
Why even live?

>>389728414
>can't even keep the rhythm of the song

lol

>>389728456
>What's the matter faggot,
AAHAHAHAHA fucking predictable. Is this the power of weeb education? Literally if you take a puzzle game and speed it up to DBZ level and put a time limit on it it's going to be physically demanding game just like any genre you imbecile. That just shows that the jap can't design good puzzle if their life depend on it.

>Looks promising but still archaic as fuck due to shit hardware, not as fresh as Herzog Zwei
Of fucking course a game 2 years older than Herzog Zwei isn't as fresh because it's not new. That doesn't matter. What matters is that the gameplay in HZ is 98% identical to Nether Earth right down to controlling your robot and fly around and pick up other robots and shits.

>>389728843
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49gLC9yiGOg

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>>389729052

>>389722293
close thread

>>389729103
Haha, I've grown to like the taiko version I posted instead of this.

>>389729103
>can be completed at 10 FPS
not hard, just shit performance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XETgkWyB1RY

>>389728672
you realize he is playing on his feet and has to turn his body throughout this entire thing right? it's not like when you play flash flash revolution on your school computer at all

>>389725452
some of the old games they made were too hard for the average shit westerner so they had to dumb it down cuck

>>389729175
The taiko version isn't being a massive troll though

>>389726578
Outlast is Canadian but still western, and scary as shit

>>389729269
difficulty isn't complexity, and japan doesn't care what the west thinks of their games

>>389729269
difficulty isn't complexity. Super Meat Boy isn't a complex game despite being fairly difficult

>>389729325
Even better, but I just like the drums.

>>389729269
Compared to having absolutely no market for complex games but a huge one for visual novels.

>>389729326
>Canada

Montreal.

>>389729421
VN are complex cause you need to crack the code to fucking the girls

nvm Nekopara was on easy mode

>>389722087
JRPG is not a genre though

>>389729096
>muh only slow shit that trivializes reaction time and action can be puzzle games!
Indeed you are predictable as fuck you dumb faggot, guess you hate fast chess too due to your garbage reaction.

>What matters is that the gameplay in HZ is 98% down to controlling your robot
Complete bullshit, the concept may be somewhat similar but all the mechanics around it are differently made, your argument is just as retarded as saying Defender is a Space Invaders clone just because you are a spaceship destroying shit, you dumbfuck.

>>389729548
>cracking the code
>do I look cute in this dress
>Yes/No
>pick yes
>take me here and now senpai

>>389729567
>Space Invaders

Is EDF Space Invaders but 100x times better?

>>389722087
gacha

>>389729637
try doing that in real life without being fucked in the ass by someone named Tryqueserenoen the 3rd

>>389729269
Japan thought FF3 and FF5 were too hard for Americans when the games were easy as fuck and were baby tier compared to Wizardry 7

>>389729894
DMC3 haha, normal was actually hard right?

>>389729894
Westcucks still complain that early FF games are very hard and require grinding though.

Rythm, fighting, visual novels, party games, puzzle.

>>389729930
DMC3 American normal was Japan hard because Americans bitched that DMC was too easy.

>>389729984
That's only your run of the mill low IQ weeb. Western RPGfags hated FF and called it a game for simpletons.

>>389729567
>Indeed you are predictable as fuck you dumb faggot, guess you hate fast chess too due to your garbage reaction.
The fuck you on about bitch, I didn't say I hate fast reaction game, I just say that the japs are lazy as shit and are shit when it comes to designing a puzzle game because they prefer to take existing puzzle game and sped it up when any retard could've done that easily. You mentioned fast chess, funny. If you take a Civ game and made it 100x faster you don't call that a good game design. It makes the game more physically demanding sure, but ripping your moms vagina is also physically demanding but it doesn't make it good sex.

>Complete bullshit, the concept may be somewhat similar
No it isn't bullbitch, similar is something like Diablo and Nox. Herzog and Nether Earth is completely identical like Diablo and Titan Quest.
>mechanics around it are differently made
OK let's see those differences then. The only thing that's different is the way you produce your unit. NE functions more like Metal fatique while HZ is like Starcraft. Everything else is completely identical.

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>>389730013
Haha

>>389730306
It's true

>>389730306
http://devilmaycry.wikia.com/wiki/Difficulty_Mode
>It should be noted that originally the western difficulty was shifted by one, making Western normal-Japanese hard. This was fixed in the special edition with very hard being the original's Japanese Dante must die.

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>>389730431
>>389730516
Yeah I know! it's great.

>>389724083
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>>389722087
>character action games
What the fuck does that mean? An action game that has characters? That's the most unhelpful, unspecific genre I've ever heard.

>>389722087
>JRPGs
>character action games
>types of game

>>389730726
He means 3D beat'em ups like DMC and Bayonetta.

>>389730832
is Mobster a beat em off?

>>389728480
Nothing has honestly topped early iD in the genre though.

Also if you are referring to Serious Sam that is pretty god damn old as well.

>>389730224
>they prefer to take existing puzzle game and sped it up
It's not only speed you stupid fuck, TGM implemented more sophisticated rank, level, scoring, modes, goals that differentiate heavily from old Tetris turning it into an actual competitive game, your pea brain may think this is easy but balancing all these stuff and pushing the human limits for the game isn't easy. Also there are there are a fair amount of good original games, Puyo Puyo, Puzzle Bobble, Money Puzzle Exchanger etc.

>If you take a Civ game and made it 100x faster you don't call that a good game design
Yes because it was never designed as an arcade game nor for competition to begin with you retarded fuck.

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>>389725392
VISUAL NOVELS ARE FUCKING VIDEOGAMES
I AM FUCKING TIRED OF READING THEY ARE NOT
YOU MAKE CHOICES THAT AFFECT THE OUTCOME OF THE STORY BY CLICKING A FUCKING BUTTON, IT'S THE SAME SHIT AS PONG WHERE YOU MOVE YOUR FUCKING PIXEL AND DETERMINE WHETHER YOU SCORE A POINT OR NOT

>>389722087
日本 has everything and more. They don't make FPS/RTS games because TPS and turn based is a hundred times better.

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>>389731116
They're video games anon it's alright.

>>389731116
It's apparently okay when shitty western companies do it though, yeah I'm talking about Telltale.

>>389730224
>Civ

Ripoff of Daisenryaku.

>>389722087
Who gives a shit how few genres they make when they're the only genres worth playing?
>MUH SPORTS SIMS
>MUH WALKING SIMS
>MUH CAWADOODIES
Any other genre I didn't mention there (muh RTS muh grand strategy) are completely dead and not worth bringing up. The bottom line is that if you don't like Japanese games, your taste in vidya is normiecore and you should probably be jacking off on facebook instead of here.

>>389731095
>It's not only speed you stupid fuck
You're proving my fucking point you dumb bitch, taking an existing game and adding physically demanding shit isn't a good sign of game design. It just shows you're creatively bankrupt. CoD also have a version that makes you go fast, have elaborate scoring system, modes and all other competitive elements. That doesn't make the game good. Holy shit I have to knock your head a thousand time for you to understand this.
>easy but balancing all these stuff
Is fucking easy you goddamn bitch. Tetris has a simple but deep puzzle design but it was never design to be competitive in the first place.

>good original games, Puyo Puyo, Puzzle Bobble, Money Puzzle Exchanger etc.
Like I said, the jap can't do puzzle game for shit if these iphone tier shit is what you consider good.

>Yes because it was never designed as an arcade game nor for competition to begin with you retarded fuck.
You retarded bitch, just because it was designed as a fucking PC game doesn't mean it's not competitive. Fuck, later Civ game introduces multiplayer ffs.

>>389731434
>Daisenryaku.
Daisenryaku is a fucking wargame series not a 4X. It didn't helped that it fucking ripped of most contemporary western wargame at the time like Gary Grigsby's game.

>>389731608
>(muh RTS muh grand strategy) are completely dead and not worth bringing up

Strategy games get more releases than fighting games or shmups each year.

>>389731434
>Ripoff of Daisenryaku.
This is the state of weebs

They dont waste their time making FPS games like muricans because they know its a shitty ass boring genre which are made for normies.

>>389732465
Is that why PUBG is popular over there and CoD and Battlefield sell more than most Nip games

>>389732295
Western puzzle games are just played for completion by casual shitters for a couple weeks while Tetris grandmasters have played for years and keep improving themselves at it? it just rly makes u think. On a casual westie game you can just find solutions by watching fucking videos, you can't get good at TGM watching a video you fucking retard

Having garbage capacity to think fast must be suffering, I pity you.

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>>389732295
fuck fucking shit bitch retarded dumb

>>389732539
your statement is based on what? jap doesnt even know about murican games here it just marketing propaganda. As far as I know, only underage kids play CoD and Battlefield.

>>389733358
mediacreate sales data and the fact PUBG was featured in an anime

>>389732556
>Western puzzle games are just played for completion
Oh wow, it's like they're video game or something.

>Tetris grandmasters have played for years
So do CoD and LoL autist but you will never call those good game you bitch.

>casual westie game you can just find solutions by watching fucking videos
Thanks for confirming that you're actually a casual shitter.

>you can't get good at TGM watching a video you fucking retard
You also can't do that in Civ or in any competitive game you bitch.

>Having garbage capacity to think fast must be suffering
I rather have the fast thinking handicap than a complete utter bitch that haven't think in his life like you. Arriverdeci fag.

>>389722087
These are the only genres worth playing these days.
First Person Shooters, RTS and western RPGs are all either dead or shit now.

>>389733538
It doesnt prove anything, japs probably never even heard of it, western stuff makes anime looks cool thats it. I dare you try google any top popular games in japan and find your so-called murican games in it.

>>389735171
http://nintendotoday.com/top-20-best-selling-japanese-games-in-2016-revealed/
[PSV] Minecraft
[PS4] Battlefield 1

http://kotaku.com/the-biggest-selling-games-in-japan-of-2015-1751536748
18. Call of Duty Black Ops III (PS4)
November 6, 2015
259,732 copies
12. Minecraft: PlayStation Vita Edition (PS Vita)
March 19, 2015
404,070 copies

Minecraft Vita has been a best seller for 2 years

>>389735086
>I rather have the fast thinking handicap
lel the fag finally admitted it, that's a first step baby

>>389735086
>blabla muh cod muh civ
Too bad we are talking about puzzle games, retard, come on bring all those western puzzle games that are much better , they all are casual shit played casually compared to TGM

>>389729447
That is in Canada anon, as much as we make fun of French Canadians quebec is still part of Canada

>>389735653
Yeah okay. 1/20 of the list. 1 in 20 people play those games if you dont consider rankings. See my point?

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>Japan makes a TPS
>It's literally the best TPS of all time

>>389737149
I'm sure they think Quebec it's their own country.

another Japan vs the rest of the whole world thread, huh?
pussies

>>389737490
it started as OP being wrong.

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>>389736127
You don't even have an argument unthinking bitch.

>>389736523
Those are just examples to illustrate your retarded point. If you actually want objectively 100x better puzzle design than japshit then I recommend:
>Infinifactory
>Spacechem
>TIS-100
>Uplink
>Hacknet
>Nethack
>Talos Principle
And if you wnat le ebin competitive simple puzzle game then there's Enigma or Oxyd

>>389737283
I don't recall the japs made Mag Bayne.

>>389737490
If you want we can do the Western world(North America and Europe vs East Asia(China,Korea and Japan). You still find the east severely lacking.

Japan makes fun games. The west makes boring games. It's that simple.

Ok, I will bite
Japan doesn't have black MC.

>>389727510
Yes, Japan has lost their touch with racing, but they were ruling it one day, with Gran Turismo being THE sim back in the days and F-Zero GX still staying as THE arcade racer.

>>389722293
Everything of value in this thread ended with this post

>>389722087
hentai games

When will they come back as one of the greates video game developers? The west is outclassed them.

>>389741027
engrish

>>389724074
>>389723872
He starts his indexing at 0, like he should.

https://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/EWD/transcriptions/EWD08xx/EWD831.html