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Why do people use the VATS system all of the time in fallout games? Is it more fun to not play the game? Or is it because people can't aim for shit and need a crutch? Why do people take extra steps to not play the game?
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Hot dog foot
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If a game has a mechanic, people will use it no matter how shitty

Kinda like Sonic Adventure 2 and the Chao Garden
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>>389698789
yeah
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because it runs on the gamebryo engine
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>Aim perfectly
>Dice roll determines you shot didn't hit or did fuck all damage
They're lucky I don't just god mode the whole fucking thing.
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>>389698961
>""They're lucky""
It's a fucking single player gane, you're only making the experience mind-numbingly easy for yourself
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>>389698727
the shooting is fucking terrible, so people avoid it at all costs.
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>>389698727
i didn't want to at first but the more you play the games you realize that the combat was designed entirely around V.A.T.S. even in New Vegas it helps considerably despite being considerably nerfed. when you start taking perks to make you more accurate though, that's when you start crossing into cheaty territory.
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>>389698838
Eat shit gay bitch
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>>389698789
This Tbh
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>>389698961
>Dice roll determines you shot didn't hit or did fuck all damage
that's any game with bullet spread though

but i agree

visible, controllable recoil > rng bullshit spread
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>>389698727
Because the 3D games run on some of the worst engines ever and real time combat feels painfully dull
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Slow motion action cam is fun
It can he handy in tight spots
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>>389699074
as if being shot down to one hp and then pausing the game to heal yourself to max hp is somehow fair and balanced
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The engine is fucking atrocious and as a shooter it sucks dicks
That's why FO4 sucks so much compared to everything else. Has no exploring, no RPG, no interesting setting or quests, no NPCs or choices worth a shit, and it's foucsed only in the shooting, where the shooting also fucking sucks.
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Because the combat is shit.
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>>389698727
I almost always avoid it, but I did a cowboy playthrough in New Vegas once and treated it like RDR's deadeye but even then I rarely used it
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>>389698727
Shooting in 3 and NV is garbage, not to mention you move slower than everything other than humans, so you need to be able to actually hit stuff since everything can just swarm you. Finally VATS ignore the buginess and just fucking does damage even if the enemy's hitboxes are glitching
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Fallout 3 shoehorned it in just so they could get away with calling it fallout and made every gun have garbage accuracy to force it on you. New vegas improved general accuracy but just kept vats because they reused so many assets it's a glorified mod. It's just in the game for show, not because of casuals or whatever.
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>>389699461
>modern fallout games
>tight spots
never happened
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>>389698727
I use it because gamebryo is a shit engine that makes even the most basic gameplay elements feel like shit. It's also the most unoptimized engine in the world pic related
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>>389700220
survival mode can fuck you pretty badly
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>>389698727
because the guns are just reskinned oblivion spells and dont work like they should

also

>10% - 15% higher crit chance in vats
>75% damage reduction (literally tank nades by standing on them and shooting someone in vats)
>normally firing the gun is a dice roll on whether it hits or not anyway
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>>389699471
That's why you enable "hardcore" mode.
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>>389698727
because the engine has inherent acceleration and smoothing and other shit that make aiming inconsistent at best
and dont get me started on grenades with their fucking physics tuning
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>>389699471
>He plays with the insta-heal
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>>389700674
Even then you just stack enough sources of healing that the first tick heals you for like half your health
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>>389700573
The DR is a pretty huge factor considering it's not at all cover or strafing based
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>>389700867
Pretty much this. The mouse control is so fucking bad that it's almost impossible to aim properly.
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>>389698727
I've never been good at aiming. It's more fun when I don't have to aim. Does that make you mad?
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>>389699180
>t. sanjay gupta
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i hated vats, never used it.
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>>389698838
idk what it was about it, but i loved that shit. replayed the game last year and that was mostly what i was interested in, until i realized if the base game is so shit after going through the story levels that im just grinding through everything else for chaos drives then its entirely not worth playing
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>>389698727
Some perks take advantage of VATS. Also you get a boost to critical hits.

Not to mention waiting for some jackass to run around a corner and unloading multiple shotgun blasts into their face before they can blink is pretty neat.
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>>389698961
>try to open up the fight with a sniper rifle shot to the face from a distance
>watch from the scope as the bullet contorts and bends, veering off to the top right
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Everybody likes finger food
Hehehehehahaha
>crypt keeper.jpg
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>>389698789
this
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>>389698727
You said it, I can't aim for shit
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>>389698727
I only used it for shits and giggles. What little I did play of 1 and 2 it had more purpose but since 3 it kind of felt worthless minus hitting eyes maybe in small spots like Mirelurk kings in their eyes, etc etc.
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>>389698727
I want to pretend I'm playing one of the good Fallout games.
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>>389698727
without VATS, FO is just an absurdly mediocre fps
if you're not gonna use VATS you have no reason not to just play some other game
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>>389703792
You mean neo fallout, don't even dare to reply me.
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>>389698727
i had to use VATS in fallout 4 since enemies would just instablock me when i used melee attacks
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>>389698789
ye
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For the mysterious stranger of course
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>>389698789
best post
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>>389700274
>whole world is destroyed
>the water tower still stands
What did gamebryo mean by this?
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>>389698727
I admit it, I can't aim for shit.
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>>389698789
Yee
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>>389698789
Yes, this.
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>>389698789
Gut
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>>389698789
FPBP
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