>guns are extremely underwhelming >combat is boring >anything

Not OP but this game was even terrible in 04

All of the half-life games have shitty shooting, the only good weapons are the magnum and the crossbow. The SAW in OpFor and the Shock Roach were alright I guess, and despite having no fun I liked using the Gluon gun

>>389692304
I agree the weapons lack a bit of oomph. But I loved the game even when I replayed it years later. Hasn't aged as well as HL1 though.

What's your most memorable moment in half life 2 /v/?

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shit taste. go back to playing bioshock , its more your speed

Doctor Freeeeeeemaaan

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>>389692304
>>389692428
>>389692474
*nods*

>>389692304
The vehicle parts were boring and way too long

>>389692523
Killing the Combine at the docks with the car magnet. Good times.

>13 year old game is boring after playing instantly gratifying games with no substance baaawwwwwww

>>389692523
Seeing the dyson sphere for the first time

>>389692658
Only a fedora would blindly love Half-life, nobody can justify the pea shooter that is most of the weapons in the game. Even shotguns feel like they fire beans unless you right click.

>>389692616
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylyCY9srJGw
GOAT VA and scene

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Are we really fucking doing this? Another mongoloid OP who thinks he is being cute with bait thread.

>corny
>boring
>underwhelming
>drags on
>handolding

All of above is subjective, you stupid cunt.

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>Not realizing that Doom 3 is better

Absolute pleb

What is with the recent HL2 hate on /v/? Or am I taking the shit bait?

>>389693104
>Doom 3
You could have said nu-Doom atleast

>>389693248

What? Why compare games that came out more than a decade apart?

I agree i like FEAR better if only as a spiritual sequel.

>can boot up HL1 at anytime and have fun with it
>just feels like a drag getting through HL2

Someone explain to mean the fundamental differences between the games because I'm too low IQ to do it

>>389692304
>>389692474
I'll never understand hating specifically on the sequel's guns when HL1's were way worse. They all felt floaty and clumsy as shit, and the sound quality was overly primitive and distorted as hell. Only the pistol was superior to its HL2 counterpart. The rest?
>shotgun with literally no kick whatsoever; the OpForce version literally having a garbled square wave as a "gunshot"
>MP4 sounds like an aluminum can being tossed around and the "recoil" feels like waggling a Wiimote
>grenades have the physics of hallowed out foam
>rest are a bit better since they don't have superior equivalents but they're so poorly balanced you hardly ever use them anyway

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>>389693536
HL1 is designed like a Japanese game.
HL2 is designed like a western "game".

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>>389692523
From the top of my head
>getting a gun for the airboat and returning fire at that cunt helicopter
>murdering combine soldiers with a crane
>THE BRIDGE
>the lighthouse battle
>assaulting nova prospekt with antlions
>the final strider battle
>the citadel core, dark tunnels, hospital, and trainstation strider battle in Episode 1
>almost the entirety of Episode 2

>>389693701
Looks like it's time for the third nuke.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpCv12q6fFI

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>>389694210
Maybe if we drop it on the US it can finally be more like glorious Nippon!

The atmosphere in HL2 was god tier

>>389692304
I agree. Played 2 hours of this game just enough to get the cards and it was very underwhelming. Never booted it again.

>>389694375
Yes, let's nuke the weebs.

>>389692304
I love both games but it's just obnoxious to see so many people always trying desperately to shit on Half Life 2 with the same 4 or 4 purposefully obtuse reasoning to justify their hipster positions. Nobody has anything interesting or insightful to say other than "its bad" and the conversation still manages to be brought up again and again.

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>>389692523
Trying not to touch the sand for that one cheevo

Are these threads just trolls trolling trolls or do people actually post shit like >>389692957 and think it's criticism? "Shit SUX" is not a fucking contribution

>>389692304
Oh look it's this thread again etc.

>>389692523
Something about that fucking bridge makes my balls shiver even just thinking about it. Definitely my favorite part

>>389695548
This post reeks of sheer fanboy asshurt. Cry moar you literal cuckold.

>>389693701
old western games > old nip games > current nip games > current western games

>>389692523
Water Hazard. Boating along a river and stopping at places like barns and dams was honestly the most interesting chapter in the game.

>>389696247
>stock weapon animations

>>389698831
That was the last thing on my mind when playing that session to be honest with you.
>>389698459
Highway 17 was the same thing, wonderful chapters.

>>389692523
"...Time, Doctor Freeman?"

>>389692523
Do the Episodes count?

Definitely the final part of Episode Three where you sail the Borealis through time and space into the Combine Staging Point only to realize you're about to die for nothing.

>>389699008
just go on gamebananna for some reanimated weapon models and it will improve your experience 1000%.

>he hasn't completed a pacifist run of HL / Blue Shift / Op Force yet.

What's your excuse?

MUG MUG MUG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpCv12q6fFI

>>389694445
What does weeb mean?

>>389694353
Get out of /v/ you stupid retard and stop posting your god damn video in every thread.

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>>389693536
HL2 was designed to show off freshly discovered physics and what all could be done with them. Mark my words, HL3 will be a massive fucking VR circlejerk.

>>389699683
>pacifist run
>in hl1 you must kill tentacles and nihilanth
>in op4 you must kill pit worm and gene worm

>>389700231
as pacifist as you can be obviously; it's funny when you finally come across the guys complaining about you "killing all their buddies" when you haven't pulled a single trigger thus far

>>389692958
FFS, Episode 2 got me so hyped, WHy did Ep 3 have to die?

>>389700325
>i'm a pacifist except for that time i murdered some guy
aliens are shit kill them all

>>389693701
>HL1 is designed like a Japanese game.
What a retarded post.

>>389700461
You can go the entire game without killing any humans

>>389700145
But the VR meme is already over. Not even kinect died that fast.

>>389696247
Awful.

>>389700569
You are indirectly responsible for killing everyone in the game.

>>389700579
I wouldn't be so sure. Valve has been pretty keen on it for a while and Bethesda has been jacking off over it lately, trying to get Skyrim and Fallout 4 up and running on it.

>>389699768
Why do these kids try so hard to sound mad?

>>389700602
What did you mean by this?

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>>389700145
There's been hints and leaks that a VR game set in the Half-Life universe is already in development.

>>389700764
You're so close minded. You didn't even watch the video. You opened it for three seconds, decided that your confirmation bias was worth more listening to someone with a slightly annoying voice, and then closed it. You are no better than an animal. You are a chimpanzee.

>HL2 is bad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcDyJBjvcc8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KBP6qPtV6Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlD5uvOt_Sw

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>>389700145
>will
Anon...

>>389701007
Sorry mate but your video is shit and so are your arguments.
>wahhhhhhhhh why do they keep referencing Half-Life 1

>>389692958
Dr. Freeeeeeeeemaaaaaaannnnnn

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holy fuck I'm bored

>>389692523
>Time, Dr. Freeman?
>Is it really that time again?
....
>in the course of...well...I'm really not at liberty to say..
I love that monologue

>>389693609
>Only the pistol was superior to its HL2 counterpart.
Not even

>>389701103
>your video
>implying

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0d6yBHDvKUw

What did he mean by this?

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>>389692304
The game by itself is shit but I never played it vanilla, always modded the guns to be cooler. And Alyx to be Zero Suit Samus. Somehow those small improvements made the game more enjoyable.

>>389701248
>>389699386
I love how he emphasizes "time" during that monologue.

>>389701364
Yeah I'm gonna assume it's gonna be your video, because no one else would link a vid with barely 10,000 views starring some faggot kid bitching about video games seriously.

Half Life 2 is overrated shit. Half Life 1 was superior in every way. It's like comparing GTA IV to V. Only retards who dickride Valve with HL3 CONFIRMED xD think otherwise. Episode 2 ended on a meh note as well. I never liked that faggot and the only thing that makes me interested is the ship.

>>389693701
You know you're a weeb when you say a fucking first person shooter is designed like a Japanese game.

>>389701557
Did it ever occur to you that maybe, just maybe, the dude that made that video posted it earlier and now other people are sharing it?

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>>389701450
FULLY

Why should I play Half Life 2? I will make a counter response to every reply.

>>389701719
But why? It's not even funny, it's just bad.

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>>389701939
That plug...

>>389701870
I will agree that the video is poorly produced, however that is not a debunk of any of his arguments. Half Life 2 at its core is just awkward.

>>389701719
To be honest I'm gonna backpedal for a second here and say the main reason I suspected you were the vid creator was because you got defensive over me saying that vid sucked.

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>>389701870
he's kinda right on a lot of points though.
he's not completely right though.

It's funny how easy hl2 is to fix though with SMOD. You don't really have to include all the crazy weapons either. It has plenty of normal weapons that fit perfectly in the game.

>>389701548
The voice acting is simply amazing. It wasn't until much later after I beat the game that I learnt people were unhappy with the cliffhanger nature of the ending - I thought it was chilling and fit well.

>beloved game series dies and gets lots of threads about it
>/v/ hates it just to piss of its fans
never change

>>389702075
>v is a singular entity
r u retarted? all of the hl2 fans are finished, now all of the people who didn't like hl2 are speaking their minds

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*smacks lips*

>>389702028
>>389702064
What "arguments"? All I hear is bitching about stupid inane subjective shit and not any actual criticisms.

>>389702075
/v/ has had threads like this for years. It's BOTW and Bloodborne that stood the test of time mostly thanks to ass ravaged DOOM 3 fanboys

>guns are extremely underwhelming

the only underwhelming guns were the sub machine gun and the pistol. The rest were some of the most satisfying guns I've used in games. Even the pulse rifle. Especially the shotgun.

>>389702339
Well everytime I come to an hl2 thread I ask "what does it do better than Hl1 or any other FPS for that matter" and all I get is falsehoods and radio silence. Basically, Hl2 is a mediocre game with decent marketing, it's like Destiny.

>tfw we will never find out about the true intentions of the gman
I think it's better that way. Some things should stay mysteries (see space jockey).

>>389702075
>/v/ hates it just to piss of its fans
i genuinely don't like hl2 as much as hl1 and don't think it deserves most of the praise it gets.

>>389702479
Maybe because no one wants to get into an argument over stupid shit?

>>389702479
Scale for sure. Memorable art direction. Otherwise what that guy said about SMOD fixing things is true.

>>389692918
fuckkkkk

>>389702556
What praise? all it gets are it's shit or it was good for its time

BADDA BING BADDA BOOM, AYYSHES.

>>389702564
Well if you can't sell a fucking game to me, well I'm not gonna live forever and I have hundreds of over games I could be playing. What makes Half Life 2 special?

>>389702545
Say that HL3 came out - I wouldn't mind finding out what his immediate goals are, but the character in general should remain a mystery. Trying to make everything about him explicit could only end up a disaster.

>>389694353
>entirely right
>that dislike ratio
goddamn pcbros

>>389702696
why sell a successful 13 year old game to someone who isn't interested?

>>389692304
Yeah I loved HL1, was hooked almost instantly. HL2 I dropped at the boat part, I just didn't care for it as much. Even the anticipated ravenholm was boring.

>>389702665
There are still people to this day who will say it's an amazing 10/10 masterpiece.

>>389692304
>tfw got to the highway
>got to the rocket launcher and uninstalled when i had to get back onto the buggy
>reinstall a couple years later
>after what feels like forever it's still not over
>uninstall again

By far the most boring vehicles ever.

>>389703020
Download the original launch version and bunnyhop sprint everywhere.

>>389702591
>scale for sure
What the fuck does that even mean? Halo's pretty big in terms of story. Level design? Pfft, games from 1995 have more open and larger environments.
>Memorable art direction
The only thing I see when I look at Half Life 2 is a low texture resolution gritty mess. Everything looks like it was rubbed in shit, even then, the viewmodels looked like plastic, some of the shit doesn't make sense like the airboat. I'll give you sound design, though.
>>389702908
Answer ONE of the following questions:
"Half Life 2 was the first game to do ___"
"Half Life 2 perfected _____"
"Half Life 2 was good because _____"
"Half Life 2 was different because ____"

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>>389692986
All criticism is subjective though

>>389703116
>What the fuck does that even mean?
Did you play Half-Life 1? Then you have your answer.
>The only thing I see when I look at Half Life 2 is a low texture resolution gritty mess
Then you are blind. There is no game out there that looks like Half-Life 2 except for the Dishonored games and that's only because those games have HL2's lead art director.

>>389700231
>>in op4 you must kill pit worm
nope
You can use a satchel charge on the steam release platform to jump behind it

>>389703221
Get SMOD.

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>>389703669
>DUDE JUST GLITCH AROUND IT
just fucking open the console and teleport yourself to the last level if you want a true 'no kill' run

>>389703116
>Half Life 2 was the first game to do ___
Apply actual physics in a FPS
>Half Life 2 perfected _____
The Gold Source engine.
>"Half Life 2 was good because _____"
A solid FPS with fun, unique level design
>"Half Life 2 was different because ____"
The physics, the setting, and having lots of story and exposition with zero cutscenes.

Are you dumb?

>>389692304
Cool.

>>389703463
You literally just nothing of substance. Half Life 2 looks like Gears of War combined with Barbie and flood lights. Find me a mulatto that looks like Alyx. Yeah I played Half Life 1, but that was Half Life 1, from 1998. Why should I play Half Life 2? Because it's the sequel? By that logic, should I play Halo 4, Turok 3, Unreal Tournament 4, Modern Warfare 3, Hey you love 1, you love em all, right? Half Life 2 doesn't deserve the Half Life monicker. It sickens me that HL2 is even mentioned when discussing Half Life. If you made a dystopian shooter and said it was inspired by Half Life, I'd be more impressed.

>>389703897
Fuck off
I was just telling you a neat trick I found to skip the worst part of the game

>>389704034
kill yourself autist.

>>389703221
what do you think that cremator head smells like?

>>389703956
There were literally dozens of other shooters that did physics before HL2.
At the end of the day, Source is just Quake.
Last time I checked, Solid meant 8 or 9 out of 10, not holy trinity of FPS.
fun unique level design? Here is how a section in Half Life has worked since the first game.
"Who do I shoot"
"Okay I shot them, where the fuck do I go?"
"Okay, there's the doorway up there, I gotta get there somehow."
"Oh I see, I just gotta jump down from that spot unto the platform".
That's every level of Half Life 1 - Ep 2 described in 4 sentences.
>the setting
orwellian ayy lmaos
>lots of story and exposition
You mean awkward cutscenes that were horribly mocapped to fit in the Quake engine? I'd rather have a skip button.
And yes, I AM DUMB. Eat your own insults.

>>389704034
>Half Life 2 looks like Gears of War
It actually does not. Not sure how you made this comparison.
>combined with Barbie and flood lights
???
>Find me a mulatto that looks like Alyx.
What? Why?
>Why should I play Half Life 2?
I'm not saying you should. I don't actually care what you do. I'm not the other anon.
> It sickens me that HL2 is even mentioned when discussing Half Life
Lol prepare to get sickened even more you overly dramatic nancy.

>>389704427
The format of your post gave me cancer that I'm not even going to bother reading it. It's probably just as retarded as everything you said so far.

>>389704427
>There were literally dozens of other shooters that did physics before HL2.
Not like Half-Life 2.
>That's every level of Half Life 1 - Ep 2 described in 4 sentences.
Cool. Now what is the issue?
>orwellian ayy lmaos
>Cool. Now what is the issue?
>mocapped
???

>>389703956
breakdown did the hl2 cutscene model a few years earlier, except you actually had choices sometimes instead of jumping on chairs till people stop talking

>>389702069
>>389702269
>>389701548
>>389701248

>We will never know who the g-man is

Suffering

>>389703454
Unskippable cutscenes are the literal definition of a fucking OBJECTIVE failure in design. Go back to gaia or facebook or where ever the fuck you dick riders are coming from.

>>389704536
Why are you bringing up Breakdown? Read: Why are you comparing apples and oranges?
>>389704984
Lol.

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>>389704432
>>389704521
See pic related? Why would the Vances rub the gravity gun in dog shit, why is it rusted? Why the fuck is every thing covered in either rust, dirt, or previously mentioned dog shit? I'd rather have the other extreme that we are seeing in modern games where everything is covered in KY jelly. Also, almost as low poly as TF2.
>Not like Half Life 2
For a game that boasts about its physics, it sure does lack a concept of real walking speed, or anything to do with animating the viewmodel for that matter. I'm more impressed with how a viewmodel is animated rather than how accurately I can push a crate by walking straight into.
I apologize, what I meant to say is clumsily coordinate animated scripted scenarios.

>>389704984
>adhd

>>389705134
>Why would the Vances rub the gravity gun in dog shit
It looks like a metal device. What are you talking about?
>Why the fuck is every thing covered in either rust, dirt
Are you actually asking the question "why is everything in a post-apocalyptic future covered in dirt and rust?"
>I'd rather have the other extreme that we are seeing in modern games where everything is covered in KY jelly
This is a preference and not anything objective to talk about. You're actually saying "I don't like dirty things in my game therefore it is a mark against it."
>it sure does lack a concept of real walking speed
Everyone walks the same way at the same rate?
>or anything to do with animating the viewmodel for that matter
What a bizarre thing to complain about.
>I'm more impressed with how a viewmodel is animated rather than how accurately I can push a crate by walking straight into.
Okay.
>I meant to say is clumsily coordinate animated scripted scenarios.
What's clumsy about them?

You didn't even bite back when I asked what's wrong with the level design you described , nor what the issue is with orewellian ayys. Don't you have anything better to do?

>>389705454
>what genre of video game is this

>>389705134
You sound like a tremendous faggot.

>>389705553
Not for you, maybe fallout 4 is more of your speed, bethesdrone.

No one's denying that HL2's weapon selection sucks dick, right? And the enemy variety?
I mean I guess you can like the game (and have shit taste) but you can't deny that lack of variety.

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>>389705134
Here, got the mod just for you.

How to fix HL2:
>Give Gordon a voice. He doesn't have to talk a lot, but not voice at all is retarded.
>Inventory Tetris
>Weapon upgrades
>Ability to aim down sights, but without changing movement speed
>Improve enemy's AI

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>>389705704
Finally, a smart game for smart gamers

>>389702896
didn't watch the video but disliked it just for you :^)

>>389693609
>>389693701
will these two things get posted in every fucking half-life thread

>>389705991
Okay, I don't really give a shit
aint my video

>>389705134
>Why the fuck is every thing covered in either rust, dirt, or previously mentioned dog shit?
have you ever been outside in your life

>>389705754
What kind of upgrades would you give each weapon, out of curiousity?

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>>389706151
>I DON'T CARE
>I'M GOING TO REPLY TO YOU TO TELL YOU HOW MUCH I DON'T CARE
kek, going to sign into my second account and dislike it again

>>389692523
The Street to Street urban fighting in HL2 as I tried to keep my groups of resistance npc's alive was great

>>389706358
ok
What is your opinion on hl2

>>389706227
>what is visual noise
>what is visual design
>what is beauty and disgust

>>389705708
needs more bridges

>>389703454
wrong

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>>389706558
the opposite of whatever your shitty video said

>>389705754
>Improve enemy's AI
Literally the only correct thing you said.

>>389697823
Go back to /pol/ you virgin.

>>389692523
carrying physics items for leagues just to see if they can chop combines and zambies in half

>>389706716
ok

I hate how we're supposed to ignore awful shit in half life 2 for some reason
The way everyone sucks your dick is so annoying and forced
>GORDON FREEMAN???!!! YOU'RE AWESOME DUDE, WOW A LEGEND
Yea fuck off

>>389707043
>>389705559

yeah I never liked half life 2 either it feels more like a theme park ride than a game

Where are the fucking alien guns
yeah there's the pulse rifle but its just a machine gun with a special alt fire

>>389707076
Great argument homo

>>389692304
i agree HL2 is shit

>>389707139
It was FPS design dujour from right around then 'til very recently. Thank then blame Call of Duty (depending on the year you're in and how fresh the take is over Doom's maze model that permeated the genre before then).

HL2 was just one of the theme park shooters of the day. Honestly still holds up imo.

>>389693701
>I can only like something if it's related to/has qualities pertaining to Japan

Get a load of this fagzilla

>>389692304
It was mainly about the new physics, the improved vehicles, the better facial animations, and the better graphics. It was an entirely new engine at the time, so you have to think about it like that. I agree that HL is better than HL2 if you play them both today, but that's because all the improvements that HL2 brought aren't new and exciting anymore.

>>389707698
CSS was the first game to use Source

>>389702075
/v/ has always been mostly underage kids who have never played a game made before 2010.

>>389707362
I grew up on quake duke 3d and doom so I was pretty pissed off at that era of fps I missed my secrets and open ended levels

>>389708191
I'll admit I enjoyed it when it was fresh but I didn't really see the mazes going away. And then they did.

Hindsight I guess.

>yfw Black Mesa improves Xen so much, it becomes the best HL game

>>389705704
that plank

>>389692304
Who cares?

>>389692523
most of /v/ today is too young to appreciate hl2 or have any memories of them playing it

>>389710169
>SHADMAN

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>>389710169
>those terrible perspective lines
He truly never had an iota of talent.

>>389710169
I remember this from way back in the day. Shadman has really been at it for a long time. Hasn't improved one iota.

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>>389692304
Fuck off nerd, HL1 has aged worse and you know it, Black Mesa is a boring setting (Doom 1 had more interesting environments) the compressed sounds are awful, and the gunplay was never that good. Truly the nostalgic hipsters choice

>>389710440
>>389710796
iota

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>>389708438
>walk into portal to alien borderworld
>land in the ocean
?

>>389705708
i hate modders so god damn much

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>>389710169

>>389705754
>>Ability to aim down sights, but without changing movement speed

join the masterrace.

>>389692523
Ant Lions

>>389706262
It always makes game more fun to be able to even slightly improve weapons. ROF, damage, reload speed etc.

>>389693104

>Doom 3

I love Doom 3, but Far Cry and Butcher Bay also came out around the same time.

>>389695548
Saying that most of the weapons feel unsatisfying to use is a legitimate criticism. Dismissing it with a picture of someone wearing a fedora is the real lack of contribution.

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>>389692304
lol what? the guns in hl2 feel amazing, specially the pistol, crossbow and shotty

I do hate how Fucking loud the smg is despite how satisfying it is to fire.
it's just way too goddamn loud compared to anything in the game, it blankets and overwhelms whatever noise is currently playing in a very annoying way.
it's why I barely use it, the loudness just pisses me off.

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I feel like Half Life is actually more replayable and fun than Half Life 2.

Do HL2 mods work with HL2 Update?

>>389692523
Everything at the beginning before going to the sewers, ravenholm, the upgraded gravity gun.

I find the vehicle sections really boring, I want to shoot actual guns and do physics puzzles than drive, plus everything feels like it's dumbed down and made easier to kill because you're sort of restricted.

>>389712930
but Xen though
there's nothing in hl2 that kills replaying the game this hard.

>>389692557
To be fair it does impact the game. Throwing the ball at the nigger gets a different dude to give you some stuff while throwing it at the mistache man gets the couple to.
Just sayin

>>389713305

Xen sucks, BUT

You can just stop right there, and be content. Half Life 2, however, is slow as fuck in the beginning, and that whole ant lion pheremone bullshit segment is also pretty fucking shitty.

>>389705754
I actually prefer not having ads in hl

>>389712839
Pistol is a fucking pee shooter and is garbage, Shotgun is generic, Crossbow I'll give you but its rarely useful.

>>389713610
>that whole ant lion pheremone bullshit segment is also pretty fucking shitty
I liked it.

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at the end of half life episode 3 gordon actually start to talk narrating the letter he was writing while showing scenes of what happend during the events
while sitting in the shore
and the old half life 1 ending theme slowly start to play

>>389703221
>pete hines tries to play a videogame

>>389716832
who?

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>>389713610
>that whole ant lion pheremone bullshit segment is also pretty fucking shitty.

no accounting for shit taste I suppose

>>389713610
Xen is fine people just get pissy because they run straight into the middle of a room full of the strongest enemies in the game and die.