Why Forza 7 at native 4K will look visualy dull and mute one

1.) Cars in Forza 7 just don't look all that great especially the Nissan under weather, it looks very flat. The lighting on those cars and the environments are just not convincing or impressive even in daylight when you see all the cars group together the materials and lighting just don't come well together and everything including the environment is affected with the same issue.

2.) Lots of low resolution textures; under the canopies, distanct mountain/hill textures, very low and weak ground + road textures and foliage/grass on the tracksides that even suffer from close pop-in. If the game is to so use many weak textures, it's only obvious that it would be highlighted at 4K. However, what's most grating is that it's easily noticeable in motion, there is something very strange going on with it's lod. It seems that foreground textures are ok whilst the car approaches but even before the car passes you would see minimized and smeared texture detail. The transition from ok textures to smeared textures as the car races across sidetrack detail is very abrubt and quite visible in motion and it's not MB which I'm describing here. It looks like a cost cutting measure which is strange, because XBONEX has all that ram. You would think textures and higher lod would be a no brainer.

2/3

3.) 4k and 60fps in-game are highlights but the game uses 30fps reflections, mirrors and intros which are alot of compromises but the issue is that with 30fps intros is there's still a lot of aliasing, lots of shimmering, so it's not strange that you will notice A LOT of IQ issues at 4k 60fps while playing. There's lots of aliasing in gameplay along thin lines, side track detail and on many parts of the cars. Lots of shimmering in the foreground and on distant oblects, it's especially noticeable when a whole lot of cars cut a corner or even one car for that matter. The thing is, all of this is easily noticeable in motion. One of the biggest IQ detractors you'll see is that fences have a very distracting moire noise pattern. The tech guys on this video try to beef up the EQAA method over PC's MSAA but you should not be convinced it's all that effective for Forza's needs, there's a lot it's not covering and TAA would be much more effective.

4.) No headlights in tunnels in the pitch of black. Does the headlights kill performance? Why? This has been an issue since Forza 4 and if that is so we can be sure this is not a big either.

Generally

The idea that the XBONEX version of Forza 7 somehow eclipses the PC is dishonest. Looking at the texture issue, effects quality and the lod issue we spoke about, I can't imagine these things will not be better on PC, including EQAA. If EQAA is better than MSAA in this instance, despite some of the coverage issues we've highlighted above, you should be pretty sure the option will be on PC as well. We forget that there are AMD cards out there, especially the recent Vega cards and even the older Polaris, I'm sure they will handle EQAA just fine.

Bottom line: Forza 7 looks kind of bad and cheap since it was put together so quickly purely for 4k without having the assets and tech truly ready for the reoslution and framerate.

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>Meanwhile on PS4

NEWSFLASH: CONSOLES ARE SHIT AND RELY ON GIMMICKS INSTEAD OF ACTUAL QUALITY

>>389680482
>>389680531
>>389680626
you expect me to read all this gay shit?

>>389681152
wow look at all those jagged edges. imagine paying money to look at that.

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>>389681152
Watch

GT Sport
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-VueX0EJhY

>>389681484
>Still looks like garbage
kek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLVh2P87-z8

>>389681484
It looks very 2014ish PC racing.

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>>389681940
>>Still looks like garbage
It looks near photo realistic, Project Cars looks amazing but if I wanted to go for pure looks I'd play Driveclub

>>389682091
>>389681484
This looks absolutely terrible what are you talking about?

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>>389682091
>Near Photo Realistic
Nice try, shill.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7Xq91L7FQw

Playing 4k games on console

>>389681152
>>389682091
>consolebabbies think this looks good

>>389682091
The cars look good but everything else just looks flat and like, PS3 tier.

>>389682260
PC is my main platform and i still think it looks good
breathtaking? obviously not, but good nonetheless

>>389682447
Maybe good for a game from 2012 or so.

>>389682383
Yeah there are some limtations to the foliage and stuff but it still looks pretty good imo.

>>389682532
maybe i'm not enough of a graphics whore to think that
besides, what PC racing games actually DO look good?
Project CARS looks way worse than that
new DIRT games aren't really spectacular either

I didn't read any of that shit but damn is this thread proof that One X got fuckers shook? God damn

>>389682662
The cars just clash so clearly with the rest of the world, they're the only part that looks good, the rest just looks simple and flat..

not even meming, that looks like a PS3 game.

I agree, consoles aren't ready for 4k. Most PC users aren't. Most people playing games don't care.

Why is the 4k meme being forced?
Why is this gen such a joke?

godbless forza for saving the pc racing market from horrendous indie trash like project boats and asscords

>>389680482
The xbox one struggles with 1080p 30fps.
Did really someone think that the xbox one x can handle true 4k 60fps?

Enough about visuals. Can we talk about how fucking AWFUL GTsports audio is?

https://youtu.be/2HEQg46rTso
>that switch back to GT at 1:40
What have they even been doing this entire time??

>>389680482
The game looks way better than 6 and Xbox One X version has high/ultra settings.

>>389684060
Forza is 4k 60fps though dumbass

>>389684060
x IS a substantial upgrade GPU wise, shitposting aside
shame the CPU is still an underclocked laptop counterpart

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>>389682773

>>389680626
>There's lots of aliasing in gameplay along thin lines, side track detail and on many parts of the cars. Lots of shimmering in the foreground and on distant oblects, it's especially noticeable when a whole lot of cars cut a corner or even one car for that matter. The thing is, all of this is easily noticeable in motion

xbox version has less shimmering and aliasing than the PC version at 4k so please fuck off

Source is DigitalFoundry

>>389681152
Ewwwwww

>>389684360

hey i can run all my pc games at 120 fps 4k if i turn all the settings down to low, 4k's a meme right now your console isnt powerful enough to do 4k without huge compromises

>>389684643
>digital cuckory

>>389684817
It literally looks better than 6 and uses high/ultra PC settings on Xbox version.

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>>389682091
>All that pop in and jaggies

Cant even imagin playing this game for hours whil lying to myself that there are no better looking games. Forza shits all over this

>>389684517
that..genuinel looks worse than GTA V
not really proving your point here

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>>389684643
>PC version is gimped by MS the publisher of the game so they can shill the Xbox 1x

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>>389685024
Wroooong

>>389681152

Delet this

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This is the footage in question from DF I believe.


Direct Feed gameplay footage from DF of Forza 7:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HveHnJ_CGuY


The cars look fake as fuck and the physics look terrible

Forza list:
- only fixed-ratio center differentials are simulated, no viscous, no active systems like in a Lancer or Impreza for example
- ground effect aero effects aren't simulated (stronger the closer the car bottom is to the surface)
- ABS and TC is non-adjustable (it's just ON/OFF and the same slip ratio starting point for all cars if set to ON)
- cockpit adjustable brake balance not present
- cockput adjustable anti-roll bars not present
- brake balance adjustability in the garage is tied to having carbon-ceramic brakes, older race cars are non-adjustable entirely in FM
- no correct caster, camber toe settings taken from IRL production cars (edit: spring rates are also not original, just what feels good and believable)
- dampers only have one setting, no "fast bump" like modern race car dampers have
- can't flash the lights for overtaking blue-flagged cars
- no simulation of torque vectoring differentials
- no simulation of brake-disc heat warming up the tires
- no brake fade or overheating brake discs
- no engine cooling simulation
- no engine damage from over-revving or overuse of high-end revving
- no adjustable turbo pressure in race cars (for many 70s and 80s car really important)
- no passive or active rear wheel steering in cars that have it
- no manual DRS use
- incorrect simulation of hybrid drive systems
- no battery charge with kinetic energy recovery
- no settings for recovery mode
- no distinction between gasoline motor enhancing and wheel-driving battery power use
- doesn't apply battery power to the correct axle if different from standard driven axle

I'm sure I could come up with more and for the record, Assetto Corsa for example simulates all of the above and most of it pretty well. Also, that was only the car-simulation, didn't even go in the general simulation aspects like flat spotting, correct DRS zones and rules, Push-to-pass (with rules), wind direction, air density with temperature... actual sims do all of those.

>>389685050
more like xbox version takes advantage of the latest amd tech while PC is fucked forever because of nvidia.

>>389685282
>The cars look fake as fuck

Forza never went for *REALISTIC* graphics.
It always had very vibrant colors which made it look more game-y.

>>389685531
>F-froza is just an arcade racer now it was n-never trying to be a sim

Stop trying to revise history cuck, you made your bed now sleep in it xgroid. The horizon spinoffs get a pass but it's time to admit the mainlime games are pretenders with bad mechanics, physics and graphics.

>>389685691
>F-froza is just an arcade racer now it was n-never trying to be a sim

Graphics have nothing to do with whether the game is arcade or sim you retard.

based sony shill spamming this thread daily

>>389680482
Are you braindead? Everyone here knows 4k is nothing but catchphrase. It's nothing but hoopsidy doopsidy resolution scale. Nothing else. If you've hardware to power it, and great engine, it can look well, if not it's just more pixels.

>>389685691
not them but all FORZAS have never been sims.

>>389685439
Funny enough, Gran Turismo does none of that yet there are people trying to claim it's a sim in this thread. Really Activates the almonds

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>>389681152
Literally looks like a last gen game.
I ran pic related on a fucking HD 5770.

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>>389685691
>Neogaf formatting

>>389685441
You know games have been using EQAA on PC for like, 6 years now, right?
The game in >>389687375, Grid 2, uses EQAA.
Which, by the way, is pretty shitty.

>>389680482
bait

>>389687565
Nope. This is why they always lose the polls.
>>389677237
>>389680706

>>389680531
>Lots of low resolution textures
I thought the Forza 7 download was over 100gb because of the 4k assets though
Weak bait

>>389688324
oh so you're a sony shill. fuck off retard. gt sport looks like trash and drivecuck is even worse. anyone with a brain and neutral knows forza is by far the best racing game on the market right now and also the best visually. nothing has come out yet which has changed that although pc2 can but remains to be seen.

off yourself paid sony nigger shill

>>389684360
>Forza 7 on Xbox One X
i can turn down all graphics to low and get 4k 60fps on any game. whoopty fucking do. doesnt mean 4k 60 is anything to brag about when everything looks 8bit nintendo era

>>389685282
fuck me this is beautiful.

day one buy desu

>>389688568
Lol retard I'm calling OP out

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>Meanwhile on PS4 Pro

Its insane that Sony still doesnt have a good first party racing sim out

>>389688960

>Its insane that Sony still doesnt have a good first party racing sim out

They haven't had one in 18 years.

>>389689483
GT3 A-Spec came out 16 years ago, senpai. Still somewhat pathetic GT just gets worse and worse with each installment though.

>Autistic GTfag and sonygroid
>>>/neogaf/