What makes Persona 3 miles better than Persona 5?

>>389634815
It's our first Persona game.

5 is playable even if its shit , 3 has 200 floors of nothing

>>389634815
Your delusion.

>>389634815
nostalgia

>>389634815
10 years and 2 numbers

>>389634815
What makes SMT miles better than Persona?

Mitsuru desu

Persona 3 is the original, so its faults are excusable.

It's older and less popular therefore I"m smarter if I like it therefore it's better.

No feminist bullshit

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>>389635231
Correct

Cute brown athletic tomboy waifu

>>389634815
It didn't completely dispense with the grit of P2 for shitty slice-of-life anime cliches.

>>389634815
You played it first.

>>389634815
Nothing. It wasn't very good.

>>389634815
The music. The story. The final boss. The main party having growth even without your interference. AKINARI.

>>389637737
Also, the ending.

Can't we just love each game without having to compare?

>>389637886
No, P3fags have become like P2fags and are in a desperate attempt to stay relevant

>>389637886
Do you just not want people to have opinions?

I finished FES a few weeks ago. I liked most of the main cast in this one which I imagine is the make-it-or-break-it factor here. 5's core gameplay was definitely stronger (the whole point of turn-based combat is that it's the best method for one player to control a small group of 3 - 6 characters, P3 tried to be innovative I guess but it fucking missed this point completely) but I found almost all the main characters really annoying personally which killed the experience for me.

>>389638403
In 5, which members of the main cast did you find annoying?

>>389638403
>I guess but it fucking missed this point completely

YOU FUCKING MISSED THE POINT COMPLETELY

The AI controlled party members were intended to make the other characters really feel like individuals. And it worked, for the most part, but brain dead herpaderps can't get over the fact that they have to play a little differently.

>>389638792
>And it worked
Making the game shitier to play maybe.

>>389638649
By Okamura's dungeon and beyond, pretty much all of them barring the characters who had next to no presence most of the time anyway like Yusuke or Haru. I did think the initial 3-4 person group were fun to follow during the first two dungeons though.

>>389638792
Other characters in rpgs already manage to get that personality across through their skill set though. You don't need to remove player control completely to do that.

>>389638403
Should have played P3P instead nigga

>best MC
>second best cast
>best OST

The only thing P5 has over IS, EP, P3, or P4 is the combat and the art design.

>>389639015
That's stupid, p3's best aspect it is story and p3p ruins its presentation, fes plays to the games strength. The game is also balanced around the ai combat, it isn't that hard at all to begin with so why would you sacrifice what makes the game good just so you can have an easier time in an already easy game.

>>389639015
Heard that has it's own issues too though?

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>>389637813
asspulls make for good endings now?

>>389639254
P3P has the hardest difficulty setting.

>>389639495
>the P3 ending is an asspull
The opening of the game says explicitly that you're going to die. The entire theme of the game is death and accepting it. MC dying is what literally any intelligent writer would do. The only surprise is that Atlus had the balls to do it.

>>389639597
I didn't mean the MC dying. That part I give points for because it was ballsy as fuck and I loved it. But the scene where Ryoji tells the MC "Hey I know I said about a million times that there was no stopping this but I think you're really cool so here have Messiah" is pure nonsense of the "we drove ourselves into a corner plotwise" variety.

Nostalgia.

>>389634815
story, characters, music and that final boss
but i dont think its miles better, just better in different ways

>>389639761
>but I think you're really cool so here have Messiah
Literally what? That's not a thing, you only get Messiah from fuzing Thanatos and Orpheus. The only reason they succeeded was because of the power of the MC's bonds creating The Universe, which had nothing to do with Ryoji giving him something.

>>389639761
watching persona 3 movies was a mistake

>>389639562
This isn't about the difficulty, it's that p3p presents the story way worse and it doesn't do enough better to justify it.

>>389638941
>>389639002

You people are hopeless. AI control was the right move, and instead Atlus listened to little shits like you.

>>389634815
Absolutely nothing. P3fags are just desperate for some attention.

Everything was just tonally different than the other two. Whole other vibe, different style of music, characters, etc. You can always say the games are different flavors for different people, but something about 3 is very cohesive in a way the other 2 modern Persona isn't .

Also whether you think 3 or 5 is better, they both really paint P4 for the valley it is between the high points of 3 and 5. It's not miles shittier, but it's not on par with either as a whole package.

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>>389640090
*aren't

>>389634815
All persona games are bad in their own way.

a shame though, the concept has potential.

>>389634815
Nothing. It's a boring slog.

>>389640182
They're all bad because of the calendar system killing the pacing.
>>389640213
The calendar system didn't treat P3 kindly.

>>389640367
No, they're boring cause the characters are mostly plain and boring, the story is shit and the combat is bad

>>389640491
Oh, that's only P3 then.

>>389640161
>ree P4D is stupid
>P3D and P5D happen
>silence

>>389641612
>ree why isn't P3DAN canon
It's pretty funny when you think about it.

>>389641781
noncanon fanservice games > 'it happened between games because of time travel and nobody remembers it afterwards but trust us it's canon'

>>389634815
Persona 3 is a terrible, terrible game. If Persona 5 is legitimately somehow worse than 3, then the Persona devs have some issues.

>>389641891
Sure, but canon games without time travel involved > meaningless milking

>>389634815
P3 has Mitsuru
And both games are good

>>389642245
>Persona 3
>good

>>389642328
>Your taste
>good

>>389639761
The Universe manifested because of MC's strong bonds and willingness to do anything to protect those bonds, not because of Ryoji
How did you even get that idea?

>>389642431
Well you already showed me your shit taste in vidya, it certainly can't be worse than that.

>>389634815
extremely fucking boring dungeon where basically all you do is grind til you can beat the next section boss
you fight palette swaps of the same few enemies for the entire game
instead of having a logical explanation for how you acquire new personas, like holidng up enemies and convincing them to join you, its relegated to a shitty mini game at the end of battle and is never acknowledged in the actual story
you barely get to know the main cast and only have s links with the female members
there is nothing to do at night other than two s links and going to tartarus, everything else is stuffed into the day cycle

>>389634815
It let you play the high school/dungeon crawler simulator without eating up days for cutscenes every other week.

>>389642615
yeah instead you just get random swaths of time where you can't do most s links, like before exams or most of december/early january

>>389642614
>there is nothing to do at night other than two s links and going to tartarus, everything else is stuffed into the day cycle
At least this let's you explore Tartarus at your own pace. P4 and P5 punish you heavily for not doing Palaces in one go.

>>389642719
Beats dealing with 5 hours of
> muh shitty adults
> hurdurr I'm retarded what are the palace keywords
> HEY GUYS WHAT ARE WE, AS PHANTOM THEIVES, GONNA DO NEXT?

>>389634815
no shitty effing adults

>>389634815
The gameplay is objectively worse

The story is arguably the best in the series

>>389642823
that's a good gameplay mechanic though, it rewards people who go into dungeons prepared so they have more time to fuck around. the tartarus segments were trivially easy to get done in one or two nights, but then again that's mostly because you could heal on the first floor which wouldn't be included if they made it more p4/p5 style.

but still, it would be nice if there was a few more options. i never really went to tartarus more than once a week, so after maxxing out my social stats by like july, i spent so many nights either going to bed early or walking koromaru

>>389642896
the scenes were fine, its just dumb you couldn't do anything at night afterwards due to being too tired

>>389634815
More actual time for dungeon crawling, better narative and pay off, and say ehat you will about having no control over the party, but having ai teamates and ordering them via tactics really does put you in the role of party leader while your team feels more like actual teamates and not just another character you control.

Persona 5 is more edgy, but 3 LOOKS edgier

>>389634815
Persona 3 has a very emotional ending and good character arcs due to the characters not being reliant on their social link to progress. Not that characters in 4 and 5 don't have arcs, they just aren't as pronounced. Also 5 tries to be 4 without any of the fun events that make 4 amazing. Also also, 5's final boss is great, but the pacing of the rest of the ending is shit, the final cutscene isn't that good of a send-off, and the stars and us is not as good as memories of you and never more.
Also also also, persona 5's dunfeons do not have much replayability, tartarus is better than mementos, and persona 5's villains are both cartoonishly evil and don't get progressively more evil due to the standards set by Kamoshida.

>>389636637
What a bitch

>>389643023
>it rewards people who go into dungeons prepared so they have more time to fuck around
And it punishes people who don't enjoy playing the dungeon part without a break.
Then the actual reward is 6 hour period of social sim until you can go dungeon crawling again. The social aspects may be fun, but with the way they handle dungeons you have these 3 repeating phases of
>1 hour cutscenes to unlock the next Palace
>2-3 hours of dungeon crawling
>5-6 hours of social sim
If you play 2 hours a day you can go almost 4 days without ever seeing the actual JRPG part of the game. That ruins the pacing.

>i never really went to tartarus more than once a week
And in P5 you visited dungeons once a month and that's it.

>>389642823
>At least this let's you explore Tartarus at your own pace. P4 and P5 punish you heavily for not doing Palaces in one go.
Tiredness

>>389643868
You can go take a piss or go to the spa in Paulownia to get rid of tiredness though.

>>389644050
>>389643868
And being tired gets you a courage boost from edogawa.

>>389643868
What's your point? Tiredness becomes a non-factor after 2 months, doesn't force you out of the dungeon and can be dealt with by letting your teammates rest for two days. If you're in the mood for dungeon crawling that's like 15 minutes of social sim until you're good to go again.
And as already said, you don't lose out on much if you don't do the next Tartarus segment in one night. In P4 and P5 leaving a Palace early means losing 2 fully packed time slots. Same with Mementos. You only ever go there when you collected a bunch of Rank 7/8 missions and can't progress any other Confidant. You never go there when you just feel like doing some dungeon crawling because it'll fuck with you time management in the long run.

Persona 3 is great because of it's strong cohesive theme that permeates almost every aspect of the game, from the music, to the social links stories, to the color palette, to the way the world changes
All of this culminates in an extremely powerful ending that concludes the arc of a seemingly characterless character in a satisfying way

>>389645376
4 and 5 also have cohesive themes. 5's is definitely on par with 3, 4 and 5 are just slightly less universal.

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>>389634815
Played-First bonus and nostalgia. I can honestly admit it.
That being said it was slightly better in some aspects, most importantly characters and story. Soundtrack is debatable.
Persona 5 is probably objectively superior just for demons alone but P3 is still my #1 in my heart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmnjomYjP7k

>>389645597
4's theme is really muddled and doesn't come up all that much to be honest
5's theme is alright but the payoff isn't anywhere near as good as P3's

>>389645827
The theme of truth definitely appears in the main plot of a mystery, along with the social links through a lot figuring out what they really want.

But death is way more universal and easier to tie to everything. And rebellion is easy enough to do but I agree there was some stumbling in 5's execution.

>>389634815
you were a highschooler/teen back then when it comes out

literally nothing, persona 5 is a better game than 3 and 4 by a fucking mile in every way

>>389646272
explain genius-senpai

>>389645376
>muh memento mori
>chidori survives thanks to magic flowers
>Shinjiro survives thanks to some dumb pocket watch

At least P4 stuck to its self-improvement theme. Even Marie stops being retarded by then end of the game.

>>389646272
The ending really isn't that good and 4 has the best social sim parts due to having decent trips.
P3
Beach is boring, dumb pick-up chicks plot
Fireworks festival boring, only two things for characters to comment on, can't even go with mitsuru and aigis
Culture festival cancelled by hurricane
Trip to kyoto generally boring except for hot springs scene
New years is somber
P5
Bathouse scene is only between joker and 2 party members, both guys
Fireworks festival rained out
Trip to tv studio only for purpose of plot
Beach has dumb pick-up chicks plot
Fireworks festival rained out for no reason
Hawaii fails to be interesting even with how much potential it has
Culture festival has shit atmosphere
New years in jail
P4
Trip to the mountains, get to see girls in swimsuits
Trip to city, making the city regularly visitable, but with dumb pick-up chicks plot that you can drop out of instead of failing
Decent beach scene
Three fireworks scenes with more content than the other two games
Concert scene
Trip to persona 3 island, shiws the school part of the trip, has a ton of references, club escapade scene is legendary
Culture festival with fun atmosphere, immediately followed by typical bath house scene
New years is fun
Ski trip

>>389647354
>New years is somber
>told you're going to die
Yeah wonder why

>>389637737
This desu

>>389647531
I like p3's plot but don't tell me 4 isn't more fun than 5 and 3 combined if we are talking purely atmosphere. Persona 3 has a depressing theme that makes sense, persona 5 ruins all its side content for no reason.

there is something special about teenagers putting a gun to their head and pulling the trigger

>>389647237
He said persona 3 not persona 3 portable.

>>389634815
Nostalgia, literally the only reason

>>389647680
I can agree with you there. It does get boring towards the end when you've done practically everything, you've acquired your bitches, made money, and got OP. I pretty much slept through the final few months, apart from maxing out Aigis's social link.

>>389647821
this
the story you can argue is better, but you can't deny the gameplay is infinitely better in P5. The overworld activities in P3 are repetitive, the social links aren't particularly strong, tartarus is god awful, and not being able to control your party members can be needlessly frustrating. Great music and aesthetic but that doesn't make it a better game

>>389647354
>P4 is the best because there are more scenes that provide nothing but the characters being anime stereotypes

>>389648062
The characters act like anime stereotypes in all 3 games during these scenes, but persona 4 actually lets the scenes play to keep things lighthearted while 5 has everything fail and suck for no reason. Persona 3 is forgiveable both for being older and more depressing with purpose. Persona 5 has a better combat system, persona 3 has a better plot, they both debatably have better music, but persona 4 is the most consistently fun.

>>389635294
>Persona 3 is the original
>3
ok

>>389647784
Because chidori doesn't come back to life in FES, right? Or are we going to pretend vanilla is the superior version now?

>>389648876
I never saw her come back to life in fes. I haven't finished the answer though.

You're not forced to go to sleep.

>>389648915
You probably missed it then.

>>389649036
Actually, you kind of are in the end

>>389649085
I missed the chance to save shinji in my first playthrough of portable too, so it doesn't surprise me.

>>389649098
>P5 trying to outdo P3's ending by forcing you to sleep almost every day
Bravo Atlus.

Nothing, because it isn't

>>389649098
ouch ;_;

I NEVER FELT LIKE

>>389649192
I'm actually jealous because chidori's event is damn retarded. Even Shinjiro's asspull wasn't that bad.

>>389649192
Can you even save him?

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>>389649098

>>389649924
Yeah, you just have to complete his social link and he falls into a coma instead of dying. It's just in the FeMC route, though.

>>389634848
my first persona games was 4 but I prefer 3

>>389650673
that's because /v/ turned you into a contrarian.
happens to the best of us

>>389651005
I played 4 first and like 4 more but think 3 Might be better.

>>389651146
How so? You might like P3's story better, but P4/5 are better games.

>>389634815
It's the best game of all time from now to eternity, at least for me

>>389651005
/v/ did nothing to me tho
I rarely browse persona threads on /v/ since I really hate you dumbweebs

>>389636637
>that cheap animation where everything is still except for her
Fucking nips

>>389651338
I love you, anon!

>>389651338
But P3 is the weebest of the bunch. It literally has an astro boy that talks to dogs.

>>389634815
But it's not

>>389651262
I think persona 3 might have a better story, even if I don't relate to it as much. I related heavily to persona 4 when I irst played it.

>>389651483
Aigis was a mistake.

>>389651483
I don't think you know what weeb means.

>>389651586
>Aigis was a mistake
>Aigis
>Mistake
I feel bad for you. You must live such a sad life.

>>389634815
But its not?
Even 4 was better than 3.

>>389651637
>the thing that Defined anime as we know it
>not super weeb
Non, anon.

>>389634815
Tartarus sucks tho

>>389651586
If it wasn't for Aigis I probably wouldn't have cried at the ending.

>>389651739
Oh, so you really don't know. Carry on.

>>389651838
She came to absolutely adore the MC in the end and then he just dies in her lap. Who didn't cry at that?

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>>389651838
I didn't cry with P3's ending but I cried like a baby with P5's for some reason.

>>389634815
Nothing. Only contrarian hipster pieces of shit believe it's actually better.

>>389651838
>spending your last moments with a damn toaster instead that with your loved ones
shit was depressing

>>389651967
That makes no sense to me. I cried at p4s ending cause I was getting ready to leave town and all my friends to go to college. Persona 5's ending just seems like shit in comparison to both. The final boss is awesome but the pacing afterwards is awful and the last cutscenes and credits aren't really built up to well.

>>389639015
>Playing the worst version of the game

>>389640028
Thank god they stopped listening to retarded fucks like you.

>>389651935
Everyone forgets each other, aigis remembers
Aigis spent the last month learning about life and meaning only to lose her new found purpose immediately
She wanted to protect you from the moment she met you
You fall asleep before your friends arrive
Memories of you is aigis singing to you
The instrumental is incredibly tragic

Everything about that ending was perfect, and even though I knew beforehand that the mc dies I still cried like a bitch. Thats why I think persona 3 might be the best even though I like 4 more.

>>389634815
The depressive atmosphere appeals to /v/ edgelords more

>>389652349
>Everyone forgets each other
For no good reason. It's not like everything happened during the dark hour either.
>Aigis spent the last month learning about life
Instead of showing herself and help the other guys to remember. Again, there's no reason for this.
>She wanted to protect you from the moment she met you
One of the reasons why she's nothing but otakubait.
>You fall asleep before your friends arrive
Once again they remember everything(at the same time no less) for no good reason.

Shit is terrible.

>>389652134
>the pacing afterwards is awful
I still don't get why Joker had to go to prison. Why let the one guy who was arrested twice already take the fall? Couldn't Ryuji or Ann testify against Shido? Even the@ intelligent@ cat would make a better witness.

>>389651354
The movies had a budget of 1 copy of the game until the 4th where they got all the budget

>>389652640
Aigis learns about life before everyone forgets, Ryoji tell you you'll forget if the dark hour is destroyed, everyone remembers because power of friendship bullshit plus failure of the memory altercation thing the dark hour had, and lastly shut up robot waifus are great.

>>389648269
I think Persona 4's personalities are just more upbeat and in therefore more like real teenagers. You also have to consider that a good part of the cast of Persona 4 is a asocial in one way or another. That being Yosuke, Naoto, Kanji and Yukiko so they're usually a bit stiff so they don't really have that much charm as the P3 characters. Because most of the P3 characters were just really cool people. You had student body president, school idol, class clown and cool boxer guy and etc... The P4 characters are sort of mostly losers that learn to get close to eachother and their personalities are highlighted in a comedic fashion.

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Opinions, OP, opinions

>>389653067
Don't get me wrong I love persona 4 the most. Everything about it works for me. I love all the characters. Naoto is my unironic waifu. I'm not bashing anything when I call this series anime bullshit, because I like anime bullshit. Other people don't though and I have to acknowledge that to argue with them.

>>389653267
That's always so weird to me when they call it anime bullshit. Like the only thing that makes Persona 4 anime for me is it's art style and the fact that it's about a group of stylish highschool students and that's literally it.

>>389653360
An idol character, and a hot springs scene is enough for some people, as well as high school girls in bikinis at all in an anime style.

>>389653426
Eh, but I think the general core of it is important than focusing on the surface level details.
But I don't even get that feel from the dialouge, it doesn't sound very anime to me even from that perspective.

>>389653524
I don't get people ignoring and dismissing anime as a medium either.

>>389653587
That too, but considering the atmosphere of the SMT franchise it's understandable.

>>389653360
It got a
>beach episode
>culture festival episode
>firework episode
>hotspring episode
>ski episode
Then we have
>girls getting embarrassed and physically attacking the boys
>not once, but twice
>guy's nose bleeding from seeing girls in bikini
>drunk on the atmosphere
>detective prince
And that's just what I remember right now. How much more do you need to see that P4 is a playable anime?

>>389652852
>Ryoji tell you you'll forget if the dark hour
That doesn't make it a good reason, and as I said before not everything happened during the dark hour.
>everyone remembers
Turns out Ryouji is one big fucking liar.
>robot waifus are great
Cares so much about MC she spends his last moments hiding instead of trying to get everyone to remember.
>>389653067
Did we play the same game?
>Yosuke tries to befriend Protag and introduces him to some people
>Junpei only talks to MC because Yukari was with him, and Yukari is only with him because Mitsuru asked her to

Akihiko and Mitsuru are as asocial as it gets.
Junpei and Fuuka are losers according to the game.
Yukari is fine.

Yosuke, Chie and Rise are social butterflies.
Yukiko and Naoto are asocial.
Kanji is friendly as hell.

the realization that Junpei (and Yukari to a much lesser extent) is the only character that actually has development throughout the entire story and can constantly be seen changing, even up through the Answer. every other character is almost completely static from their introduction until their awakening moment, it's basically point A to point B with nothing in between. Aigis is the perfect example, she should be gradually becoming more human and lifelike but she stays exactly the same for 4 months until her awakening.

when people say they like Persona 3's character development, they're saying they like Junpei's character development.

>>389653905
Aigis very clearly becomes more human, as seen by her asking more questions, and expeessing more proto-emotions. She becomes human when she realizes theres something she wants because she wants it and not because of orders. She realizes this because of soending time around humans in school and asking about human motivations repeatedly.

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>>389635294
>>389635294
>3
>the original

Are you unable to count, anon?

Besides, Persona 2 is best Persona game anyway.

the option to play as a girl

>>389654557
yeah but persona 1 was terrible

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>>389654810
I definitely think it's the weakest of the bunch.
However, that doesn't make 3 the first Persona game.

If you said "it was the first in the series to copy ideas from Sakura Wars" instead that'd make sense. But it's not the original Persona game.

>>389635470
wait what? i haven't played persona 5 yet, but does it really have feminist bullshit in it?

>>389653774
A lot of that stuff is from the Golden version and not vanilla which I played. Also the detective prince thing is intentional because of the theme of the game.
>>389653820
First of all no. Yosuke first starts off as a sort of detached and isolated guy without many actual friends and has problems interacting with the rest of the group because he never had "real" friends before. Over the course of the game he gets proggressivly more social and leadership skills.
And when I said social I meant on a surface school level. Junpei has a lot of friends in his class and is the class clown. Akihiko is really popular with girls and is a person people look up to same applies to Mitsuru. We get these people that are sort of larger than life characters. Idealized representations of the virtues and youth in highschool. While the P4 characters are more vulnarable, flawed and akward. Rise is the only really social one.
Kanji has problems communicating and presenting himself to others, Yosuke is a person who is difficult to like, Chie despite being okay with people has her flaws and is pretty akward at times and gives the impression of an idiot to others.
Sorry if this post is so disorginized, but I hope you get what I mean.

>>389655618
Than anon is upset about a rapist being portrayed as a villain.

>P3fag bait thread backfires
>devolves into shitting on P3
>P3fags panic and default to shitting on P4
>P5fags go about the day in peace
every single time

>>389656284
Come on man. Just appreciate the fact that you can even talk to other people about your weird Japanese anime video games without the risk of someone punching you in the face.

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>>389653820
Fuuka isn't a loser
She won my heart

>>389655708
I never said that Yosuke had hundreds of friends, but how is approaching the new guy not social?

>And when I said social I meant on a surface school level
Oh, so just something to fit your narrative.

>Akihiko is really popular with girls and is a person people look up to same applies to Mitsuru.
Yukiko must be the most social person on P4 then. Shes popular as fuck with the guys.

>idealized representations of the virtues and youth in highschool.
Okay, but this has nothing to do with being social. It just makes the p3 cast more cartoony than anything.

Having issues communicating != being asocial.

So I want to play Persona 1 and 2. Which version should I play of which one?

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>Most successful persona to date
>bad

>>389657064
don't play persona 1, it's shit.
as for persona 2, play IS on psp and good luck finding an english version of EP

>>389657287
sales don't mean anything
neither does people voting it #1 of all time in favor of more recent games
or what anyone else in the industry says about the game
or the actual content of the game
all that matters is how I feel about it at any given moment and literally nothing else and don't you forget it jackass

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>>389657590
.>sales don't mean anything

Stopped reading there

>>389657691
>failed to greentext properly
Disappointed in you anon

To actually answer OP's question
absolutely nothing. It isn't better at all,
let alone miles better

>>389657287
>A is better than B
>that implies B is bad
>but B is successful
>that means it can't be bad
Anon, I can't seem to follow your logic.

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Are P3fags the FFXfags or SMT/Persona games?

>>389658147
They feel the need to assert themselves as the new P2fags because once P3D is out they're pretty much finished and they won't survive unless they become something like that.

>>389658147
They are the FF7fags of Persona because they go as far as hating their own spinoffs, ports, etc...

>>389648374
>persona fags

>>389656634
Okay I am sorry I guess I didn't communicate my point well enough. I want to highlight the contrast between the cast of the two games in a thematical sense. You could see this contrast immedietly from just the color choice and designs of the characters. Shigenori in his Persona 4 artbook said that he intended for the designs of Persona 3 to be way more fantastical and idealized. Take a look at Yukiko and then look at Yukari both one of the first female characters you encounter and are both represented as popular school idols. You can just tell the magnum difference between them just based on their clothes, hairstyle, and bodies. Yukari looks like a hollywood actress while Yukiko just looks like a pretty girl in school. That and Yukari also being the captian/ace of the arching team and not only being a school idol but being a school idol of a school as big as gekkokan. That is what I mean by idealized and larger than life representations of youth. It ties into the larger theme of the metaphore between becoming an adult and the journey of life. This also ties into the motife of their persona's being Greek gods.
This doesn't make the P3 characters more cartoony it makes them more like classic arcetypes and like you're reading this Greek epic as they not only play into those arcetypes but also highschool arcetypes.
Me saying on a surface school level doesn't mean I'm wrong or fitting it into my own narrative. Because social and popular people aren't extremely close friends with everybody they're just make a really good impression on a large number of people.
Haven't you thought about why Yosuke aproached the MC? Because he was the only person that didn't have a bias against him.

>>389634815
Persona 3's cast is full of negative energy, thus making it inferior to the positive quality of 5.

>>389634815
You can play it on pc.

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>He thinks 3 is better than 5

>>389658613
Whomst has the most positive energy in each game?

>>389659245
Mark
Maya (she has the most)
Yukari
Kanji
Ryuji
Can't get more positive than that.

>>389658521
Oh, I see. I agree with everything you said except for:
> Because social and popular people aren't extremely close friends with everybody they're just make a really good impression on a large number of people.
Akihiko would rather be alone, Mitsuru would rather spend her time doing other stuff, and Fuuka is just too much of an autist.
Are they popular? Sure. Are they social beings? No way.

It's more like Yosuke thought Yu(being a city boy) would be able to understand his pain.

>>389658521
cont.
Persona 4 has a brown and yellow color pallate which indicates a sort of groundedness with underlying positivity and anxiety. This is exemplified through the TV world which is basically an extreme version of the dream where you're naked in class. We also take into account that basically every character you meet is a person who is inherintly misunderstood by the people around them and most of the time have trouble with forming positive bonds with other people. Which as a result we have characters who look, act and are flawed in the same ways real teenagers are and don't have many friends or people to connect with. Therethen we have all these sort of losers togheter connecting based on a shared understanding of eachother. Despite two of the female characters being canon attractive they still look like real 15/16 year old in contrast to the beautiful Mitsuru, Yukari and the romantisized Aegis.

I can't really stand P4 anymore and while I do enjoy the last 10% of P3 substantially the rest of the game is just not good. You can't even get people to agree with /v/'s hyperbole on P5's story and cast and it shows with how quickly hate threads die so preferring 3 for those particular reasons (and the music as well) is just as inherently opinionated as anything else.

>>389659527
My original point was that the P4 characters felt more grounded. A better point would be that the P3 characters feel like celeberties and the characters like Junpei and Fuuka feel like hollywood actors playing normal people.

Junpei

>>389657064
Persona 1 has three options. You can emulate the original NA release on PS1, which has a cool soundtrack but suffers from heavyhanded localizing, the PSP version which has a more faithful translation, but switches out its soundtrack for J-pop. I think there's also a fan translation of the original Japanese PS1 version which maintains the best elements of both.

For P2:IS, just play the NA PSP version. Option to choose between remixed and original soundtrack, great translation, good stuff all around. P2:EP on the other hand is a bit muddier. The only way to play the game in English right now is with the NA PS1 version, which is a more faithful translation than P1 PS1, but still has holdovers to the original translation in terms of character names due to some references. There's currently a fan translation of the Japanese PSP version in the works, which has a host of notable improvements, but the dev team has been working at a snail's pace thus far. We MIGHT get a release by the end of this year, but it's not 100% certain.

>>389659812
is a very positive member of society.

>>389659812
a shit!

>>389659964
He is a children's baseball coach with a bad hairstyle. In Japan he would be seen as a loser. Actually that's one of the most tragic things about Junpei imo. Like just thinking about it makes me sad. Like this fucking guy who saved the world at 16 is now working some low wage job.

>>389659812
>entire character development driven by pussy
>even when he had a social link in P3P nothing more substantial happened
eh
I guess he was better than Yukari

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P3 doesn't have Makoto in it how could it be good for anything

>>389659754
Which is funny because people always complain about P4 being too anime.
P3 characters being so over the top, and each one of them having a tragic backstory including the fucking dog is probably the reason why it's my least favorite game.
Well, that an Aigis.

>>389660110
It's realistic. You would think all those things would have changed Junpei for the better. But nope, Junpei is lazy to a fault.

>>389660304
>Makoto
ew

>>389660304
Akihiko is pretty much Makoto

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>>389660304
but it does have Makoto in it, falseflagger-kun.

>>389660218
>tfw rejected by Junpei
It still hurts, Fatlus.

>>389660402
>game about death
>everyone's backstory pretty much involves someone dying
Fuck, I wonder why?

>>389660516
It wasn't their fault. They wrote romance shit for Junpei, let you at least tell him you wanted to fuck, and didn't scrub the ending scene for him from the umd. It reeks of editor fuckery.

>>389660553
>game about death
>Chidori and Shinji survive
Hmmm

>>389660402
In my opinion it's thematic motifes done perfectly but still... I prefer Persona 4.
Lol you replied to both of my posts

>>389660304
fuck off waifufag

>>389660682
They can only survive if you bother to meet certain requirements. Your point is fucking moot.

Try harder next time.

>>389660450
He looks like a very positive person.

>>389660723
why are you so negative?

>>389660721
One or two characters having a tragic backstory is fine, but every single character in your party? It's a bit too much.

>>389660937
because his favorite persona game isn't the one people care about anymore

>>389660818
Indeed, he really took a load off of humanity's shoulders.

>>389660304
But Mitsuru is Makoto but better.

>>389660995
I think Mitsuru actually had less development over the course of the story and her social link than Haru did in P5 in the same span of content

>>389660971
It works on a thematic level but it doesn't work that well when there's so many party members. If only the party was a bit more tight I think that issue would resolve it's self.

>>389660937
He needs to be filled with some positivity, wouldn't you agree?

>>389660995
I disagree.

>>389658881
It is.

>>389660809
>it's optional so it doesn't count
lol yeah, whatever helps you sleep at night.

>>389661317
This but unironically.

>>389658147
>FFXfags
What a dumb analogy.

FF7 makes far more sense.

>>389661176
This was something I really liked about P5, where this was a complete non-issue and everyone could be fixated around a different social problem and not have it seem completely ridiculous.

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>>389661317
Whatever, fag

>>389661098
That's because even less of P3 is used to have the characters grow than P4

>>389661609
That's actually a general thing I persona. How it brings toghether a lot of characters that face the same thematic problem.
God damn I never get tired of posting long winded posts arguing about Persona.

>>389657491
>>389659894
Thanks, will take note.

>>389661609
It's too bad P5 is irredeemable fascist dogshit that thinks it can talk about sexual harassment while having the boys stare at the girls all the time.
This coming from the same people that wrote the incomparably better Kanji and Naoto just doesn't make sense. There's something fundamentally wrong about the game.

>>389661985
but that's precisely why P5 is the best one
it keeps generating triggered whales and libcucks to no end. It's the gift that keeps on fucking giving

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>>389661985
(you)

>>389661985
Don't be so negative bro

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P5 is the best because it has Goro.

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>>389661985

>>389662203
True, no one has ever talked about a persona character to the extent people have talked about Goro
It's like watching people talk about dark souls or bloodborne except with one anime fuccboi

>>389634815
Your edgyness.
Nothing else, everyone who think P3 is the best will always say "it's dark" The ATMOSPHEEERRE MAN!" or something like this.

I am not sure which is truly better between P4/5 but P3 is behind those 2.

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>>389662203

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>>389662426
Goro!

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>>389662426

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>>389662674
>He got #1 twice
>even if you combine the maniacus polls he still ranks higher than anyone other than Joker and that was sampled before the Anne's Birthday event where he (or rather his VA) stole the show

You really just need these two characters to carry the series for another decade, and the thing is you know they're going to make him paid DLC for everything

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>>389662909
He's amazing, isn't he? But fuck, you're right. They're definitely gonna make him paid DLC for everything. And I won't be able to stop myself from buying everything ;_;

>>389662426
what a positive individual

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>>389634815
Your delusion

How does makoto react to Mitsuru asking for his permission to sleep with black men?

>>389663435
The usual way.
Blank stare while she runs off to fuck black men.

>>389634815
I don't understand how anyone could like a game with such a negative outlook on life when you could just gain a positive experience from 4 and 5.

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>>389660304
This so much.
>finish P3 and 4
>didn't care about any girl except when I romanced them.
>finish P5
>can't stop thinking about Makoto.

>>389663718
>liking a girl with crippling autism and a retarded haircut this much
I'll never understand.

>>389634815

The melancholy color palette
The more refined sense of style
The generally colder and more distant tone of the characters, which leads to better writing than "teenage detective adventures"
The Persona designs
The ending

>>389663817
he posted Makoto not Futaba

>>389663817
"Makoto is autistic" is just a /v/ meme. and short hime cuts are cute

>>389663864
Correct.

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>teacher has crush on MC in 3
>teacher wants to fug MC in 4
>you can date the teacher in 5

So what's going to be teacher route in 6?

>>389664013
t. futabafag

>>389664073
Hopefully they won't be any and hopefully the P6 cast are all adults

>>389664073
You can marry and have children with the teacher in P6.

>>389664073
>pure
>whore
>closet whore
Hopefully a pure one again.

>>389664149
hahaha

>>389664073
Hopefully not a pathetic woman with a weird face like in P5.

>>389664073
You get the the teacher pregnant and ruin her career.

>>389664073
clingy teacher that kills herself when you turn her down

>>389659754
I don't see how, there's nothing hollywoodesque about Fuuka or Junpei, specially Fuuka

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>>389664193
Why not? P2 had adult cast

>>389664149
adults can't fuck teachers? what?

>>389664073
MC will be the teacher

>>389664292
Persona started at 3.

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Friendly reminder that P1 had the best crew.

>>389664305
Adults won't be near teacher id they don't have kids

>>389664292
half of P2 did
and even the most adamant P2fags that can actually sit through that game will admit that the highschooler side was better

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Ken raped me...

>>389664413
>relative has children
Done. You have zero imagination and that's why you want an adult cast.

Anyone else scared of persona 6?
Since the director stepped down, i am afraid the next one will be afraid of breaking the code and will just copy paste the previous game, and pander to all the degenerate tendency of people and destroy the serie instead of innovating.

>>389664686
I just hope it's not Arena's director. I still haven't forgiven what they did to poor Akihiko.

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>>389664686
P6 has the following things going on right now
>hiring new staff to work on it
>will be directed by another director from else where in the company (though they have not been named yet the director has already been set in stone according to a Wada interview)
>the original director and key staff members from the team that worked on the previous 2 including the artist are leaving to work on another rpg set in a different time period altogether
>the old composer will be working with the old team on P6

this sound eerily familiar to something else
like, fucking exactly like something else

>>389664960
What did they do to Akihiko?

>>389665208
They made him a very positive person.

>>389665282
Fuck off retard

>>389665493
Don't be so negative.

>>389665493
why don't you release that load of negative energy already my dude? You seem pent up

>>389664281
Junpei and Fuuka feel like really good hollywood actors playing normal highschool students.

>>389655208
but anon
sakura wars sucks shit

>>389666148
I still don't understand what that means

>>389666347
just like P3.

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should i post it?

too late

>>389666805
but have you played sakura wars 5?

cause that is worse then even 3

>>389658147
Sure let's go with that, but only if we all agree that P2fags are the FFXIfags of Persona.

>>389667047
The one with awful gameplay and where the only decent girl is NG+ onry?
The girls were almost as bad as P3's.

>>389667325
>The girls were almost as bad as P3's.
>cowgirl that wont shut the fuck up is better than yukari
sure anon sure

>only decent girl is NG+
who was that again

>>389667525
The blonde.

>>389667960
hold up
why would they hold back best girl for ng+ like some fag

>>389634815
Stay positive /v/ friends!

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>>389669530
ok