>the least popular Souls game is the best Souls game and the

DeS has the worst gameplay, worst bosses and is the easiest.

Steamdrones are more cancerous than anybody realizes.

>>389633312
B-b-but casuls haven't played it!

>>389633210
It won´t, most surely, a pitty to be honest. It´s the best in the series.

>>389633312
>muh super fast SUPER HARD BOSSES!
You are why Souls continues to become more and more boring.

>>389633210
>best community

didnt the server close?

>>389634183
Nope still open, but I'm talking about the community when the game was at its prime.

>>389633210
get good XD

>>389633975
Gimmick bosses as featured in DeS are really cool the first time and garbage every other time. Souls is a series that people like to run many playthroughs of. I started with DeS but I have great difficulty going back to it after having played the newer games.

>>389636161
>People didn´t make runs all the time in DeS
You are a delusional kid trying to force a meme, stop ashaming yourself and learn.

>>389636375
You have no time taste in vidya.

>>389636161
You can build on gimmick bosses to make them more long lasting, it was the first game that set up a good ground work to expand and improve, unfortunately later games just focused on the duels and that left them with nothing to tweak but movesets...snore.

>>389636465
>time taste
Wew nice answer bro!1!
LE EUPHORIC

I played DeS after playing all the other Souls games, and I liked it. It's still way better than DS2, but I would still rank it pretty low. Coming from the later games the bosses weren't all that challenging, but that's not the main point. It's a good game, and you should play it even if you have played the rest of Souls

>>389633210
The hard game for hardcore gamers like me meme that everyone hates started with DeS.

>>389633210
It's pretty bad though. It had a lot of problems that needed fixing.

>>389635578
So like a week or two after launch?

Muh poison gas, scraping spear, naked dual dbs meta shit was pretty bad.

>>389633210
The community was already dead since Dark Souls Prepare to Die on Pc.

>>389633312
>worst bosses
kek

>>389637893
don't forget fucking running firestorm

>>389633312
Burger king and fake king are some of the hardest of the franchise, and Maiden Astraea is one of the best too.

>>389633312
It had best bosses though, and that comes from someone who have just finished it for the first time, after playing later games first. Call them gimmick bosses all you want, these fights were actually interesting, creative designs with unique mechanics. I'll take that any time over 90% of bosses being "circle around them while dodging/blocking their attacks and hit them when they expose themselves. Repeat until they die" shit that later games have.

Other than that though, it's a good game and aged surprisingly well, definitely worth playing and replaying, but the later games improved on pretty much every single aspect except for bosses.

>>389633369
>Ps3 emulation
>Steamdrones
Are you retarded

>>389636881
Almost half of DaS3's bosses are gimmicks, and they all suck too.

>>389633210
I just want to go back to the Nexus to chill with my Waifu in Black and my bros Ostrava and Biorr.

BB > DeS = DaS >> DaS3 >>>>> DaS2

FACT

>>389639673
DeS > BB = DaS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DaS III >>>> DaS II
/v/ stated this long time ago.

>>389639673
>>389640103
Both wrong.
DaS > BB > DeS > DaS3 >>>> DaS2

>>389640129
I could agree on this too, since that three are objectively the best of the series.

>>389640129
>>389640103
>>389639673

DaS >>> BB > DeS > DaS2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DaS3

>>389640256
>DaS 2 anything but last
Disregarded

>>389640129
>>389640256
>unfinished souls
>better than Miyazaki's magnum opus

sour grapes is a hell of a drug

>>389640284

DaS2 is not very good but not irremdeemable shit like the third one

>>389640410
DeS is literally missing an entire arch stone, it's the most unfinished.

at least we can all agree in terms of soundtrack

BB > DeS > DaS3 > DaS1 > DaS2

>>389639673
BB = DaS > DeS > DaS3 >>>>> DaS2 >>>>>>>>>> SOTFS

trying new things
DeS>BB>DaS2>DaS1>DaS3

gameplay
DaS3>BB>DaS1>DeS>>>DaS2

gameplay focused bosses
DaS3>BB>DaS1>DeS>>>DaS2

gimmick focused bosses
DaS3>BB, the rest are shit

inb4 people actually trying to defend shit like Living Failures, Storm King, Old Dragon God, Bed of Chaos, etc

>>389640410

>muh miyazaki
Kill yourself

>>389640585
At least they don't make you play through the shitty half finish levels like DS1. And I was talking about BB which (while also unfinished) is the most polished and best game of the 5

>>389640594
DaS1 has best soundtrack.
Ash lake, O+S, Gwyn's fight, Sif, Artorias, the credits song, comfy firelink. Soundtrack is just so fucking good.
BB mostly shines with its OST in the DLC

>>389640652

What BB did new you and not rehash you fucking nigger?

>>389640706
Yes, I know you was talking about BB, but criticizing DaS for being unfinished when the majority of the games are, is retarded.
Also, it's hardly "sour grapes" when I regard BB so highly and don't put it anywhere near last.

>>389640594

Awful taste

>>389637958
all the big memers come from console though. All the git gud GIANTDAD XD BASSCANNON shit was made by consolefags like onlyafro.

>>389640724
those are standout tracks of DS1 but most of the rest is incredibly samey because it was all composed by sakuraba

>>389640768
>trick weapons
>blood vials
>dashing when locked on (even if it was completely inferior to rolling except when dashing diagonally towards a boss would make the boss miss everything, in which case it was overpowered)
>changed the shit backstab into something decent
>visceral attacks in general
>chalice dungeons (were shit, however)

there are other minor changes like runes system, different attributes, but those are the major ones

>>389640965
also I forgot
>gun parry system
>"spells"
>quicksilver, as well as exchanging life for quicksilver
>the underutilized insight stat/resource

bb>das3>das>das2>des

it's really not even an argument

>>389640965
not to mention the setting which was nice after 3 games of medieval knights, dragons and fire

>>389640652
Storm King was good, fuck off. Good design, creative gimmick and nothing felt as good as finally genociding these flying fuckers with a legendary sword afrer being constantly shot by them through the entire level

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>>389641107
B-BUH SOLAIRE MNUHH FIRST BORN GUISE AMIRITE?AHAH!11
We leedit acorded this 38 years ago in our lore section

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>>389641208
I have literally no idea what you're trying to say or how does it relate in any way to my post. Kill yourself you fucking sperg

>>389633210

Demons's souls isn't the best, and will never be. It's easily the most broken and unbalanced out of the entire series.

The controls are clunky AF, some bosses are really fucking easy (Adjudicator, Storm king, offline old monk) when others are just bullshit (Maneaters). Also the PvP was a hell dominated by tthe Scraping Spear and grass-spammers where half of the fights lead to you breaking your gear and the other half could drag on for over half an hour if no one pulled the Scraping Spear. And spells like firestorm basically broke PvE.

>B-but b-team ruined DS2.

At least DS2 had some decent PvP and dual wielding was viable because power stance.

Case and point, you are just an anti-casul hipster who pretends to be a Souls master but doesn't know shit.

>>389640768
Only people who didn't play the game would dispute that
BB does a great job at keeping its distance from other souls games while sharing the same core

>>389641495
Too bad the combat in DS2 was floaty and felt shitty and was the worst of all 5

>>389641447
Sorry. Sometimes i forget that in /v/ people are not versed in the matter that they are actually discussing, it´s my fault for trying to interact with illiterates.

>>389633210
It is better than Reddit Souls trilogy but I still like Bloodborne more

>>389641634
>the guy making that post calling anyone illiterate

>>389641495
>All this nonsense mumbling.
Heh

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>>389641634
Holy fucking mental gymnastics batman.

Get the fuck out or atleast make some sense about anything

>>389641709
>>389641796
>Posting a well know reference about how buthurted the community was
>Calling illiterate to the ones trying to discuss anything without knowing one of the most basic facts
He´s right though.

>>389641929
>>389641634
What solaire have to do with the storm king? Literally nothing, you are just retard who didn't play DeS

>>389641634
>This post
>>389641208
>discussing
>calling others illiterate after writing that
>calling it discussion when it doesn't relate to the previous post whatsoever
Holly fuck, how retarded can you possibly be?

>>389641050
I was thinking of gameplay, but yes, it's also obviously the most different in thematics. I really hope they start making at least 2~3 new Souls games in different thematics. Like, cavemen setting, egyptian setting (pyramids filled with traps? mummies, scorpion men, anubites?), aztec/mayan/incan setting, and so on

>>389641107
>take sword
>spam R1
*yawn*

also
>he didn't read the rings' descriptions

>>389642007
he got storm king (DeS) and king of the storm (DS3) confused because he's an illiterate degenerate

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>>389642040
Did you even play the fucking game? NK specifically delays his attacks to fuck with R1 spam

>>389641107
>actually defends Storm King
shit opinion, but
>>389641208
>tries to... make fun of the other guy for like DaS1 when he defended something from DeS?
I have no idea what the fuck you're going on about

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>>389642119
Nobody is talking about nameless king

>>389642119
go google "storm king souls", son

wait

>>389642047
>>389641208
oh, now I get it, but if he was confusing NK with storm king, then... he was trying to attack DaS3? I'm so fucking lost oh my fuck

>>389633312
>muh difficulty
People like you are the reason why the Souls series went to shit after Dark Souls. Let's just focus on le epic difficulty meme and forget everything else haha. Also muh super fast boss battles with infinite roll spam.

>>389641495
>dual wielding was viable because power stance.
Power stance was fucking useless outside of a few gimmick weapon combos. Offhand weapons dealing reduced damage made attacking with the offhand a waste of stamina.

>>389642306
not that guy, but
>Let's just focus on le epic difficulty meme and forget everything else haha.
gimmick bosses can be not shit, like the congregation of bald men in the church, as opposed to one trick ponies like the storm king, which you just spam R1, the false idol
>hurr durr u didnt kill dat NPC
which is "fun" for 1 playthrough, and the dragon god which is a stop and go section, probably the most disappointing fight ever
>you're fighting THE DRAGON GOD
>he stands in front of a bunch of ballistas as you go from one to the other activating them
at least none of these are nowhere near as bad as Bed of Chaos, which is hard as fuck because of how inconsistent it is, it's usually challenging in every playthrough, and it's still the worst bossfight

another boss that is balls hard is that elder dragon in DaS2, and it's not a gimmicky fight, yet it's one of the worst fights I've played in all Souls games, hard doesn't make it good, but making it feel like a fair fight, with at least some challenge, makes the fight fun

>Also muh super fast boss battles with infinite roll spam.
if you spam rolls instead of learning the boss' attacks to do well timed rolls and punish their openings, you're really missing out brah

>>389642196
>>389642232
Fuck me, apologies

>>389641626
I' not saying the combat wasn't floaty. Im just saying that it was more enjoyable and varied than DeS

>>389642713
Your post sounded alot like DS2 being good in general in the series. Which it is not

>>389640256
Finally someone with taste

>>389641495
>>389642595
power stancing to begin with was obscure (even in a series filled with obscure shit), you need an arbitrary amount of extra str/dex (though based on the base weapons) to be able to power stance it, I don't think anywhere in the game shows you how to power stance either, but fine, let's get through all that, you'll still need to make a meme build shoving a ton of str/dex, and even then it only works properly with specific weapons, if you try to get any sort of creative you get a generic moveset (and I don't blame the devs, but that's what'll happen when you try to make anything work together with anything)

meanwhile, DaS3 gets flak from DaS2fags for introducing paired weapons, but they were really easy to pick up and use, had normal stat requirements, and I believe all of them had neat L2s when in paired mode (shoutout to the beyblade twin winged axes)

I guess power stancing is better when we're talking NG+(or more+s) though, so I'm mentioning it, even if I mysel prefer to (generally) play NG in every playthrough, as one of the things I most enjoy about the series is the power progression in the NG, which I think is generally very well done

Is it true that the combat after 2 becomes epic fast-paced and crazy? I like kinda slow paced. I even enjoyed the combat in 2, was afraid of all the talk about hitboxes but I guess that's the kind of stuff you only notice if you play for hundreds of hours.

>>389642805
Again, did I say anything positive about DS2 other than the DECENT (not broken) PvP?

Series ranking to me is easily BB > DS > DS3 > DS2 > DeS.

Saying that something isn't broken is not the same as saying it's good.

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>>389633312
>this is what underage darksouls shitters actually believe
RIP video games

>>389642987
BB has fast enemies but the player is fast to compensate so it's fair.
DS3 has the fast enemies of BB but player speed is between DS1 and BB so it's a game of stunlock and R1 mash the enemy to death before he does the same to you

Since there is a lot of newfags here ill explain this shit for you>>389641208

>>389641107
Here Anon says Storm King, a well know DaS III boss, who turned out to be Gwynn first born exiled with his boyfriend.

Now this fag cames out >>389641208
This butblasted comment is a reference to how buthurted was the lore community in /v/, /vg/ soulsborne general and Reddit about the fact that memelaire was not the fucking son of Gwyn.
They just cannot let it go so they went on full suicide watch for months trying to elaborate some random bullshit to justify solaires role there, besides being a fucking mad warrior.

So yeah, it´s well know.
>>389642047
Gwyn first born is also know as SK, Storm King in lore discussions being the sword SR, Storm Ruler.

>>389633312
DkS1 has objectively worse gameplay then DeS easily, it's literally a downgrade besides Estus > grass:
>Slower.
>Patently worse weapon movesets, DkS1 in-fact has the worst movesets in the series. The excellent moveset of 1. DBS replaced "just-mash-R1-infinites" Zwei, 2. Estoc having all excellent and useful moves and up to 4-hit target combos goes to having absolutely zero combos and literally not one good move even counting garbage like Ricard's R2, 3. Kilij goes from having hyper armor f+r1 and two target combos to literally mashing R1 frametrap and gay cartwheel, 4. Katana goes from having infinites, off-hand use, and target combos to "just-mash-R1-frametrap", 5. Gaxe goes from having a direct-hit combo and ground-pound to literally being unusable, 6. Weapons with infinites (small axes, small swords, poleaxes, etc) all have zero moves. Only Claymore is improved from its DeS counterpart.
>Multi-hit R2 moves don't actually hit (fucking lol?).
>Poise replaces all the fundamentals of spacing, timing, move selection, etc, and emphasizes just running into enemies and smashing R1 like a retard Giantdad/Havelmom shit. Also makes half the weapons unsable garbage.
>Weapons that share the same class can have different swing recoveries based on weight, meaning a claymore will have an R1 infinite, while Artorias swords can't even 2-hit.
>Upgrading weapons increases hitstun, which covertly railroads you into using the weapon you first start upgrading and inhibits exploration. Also, some upgrade paths have different hitstun bonuses (fucking lol).
>Some weapon types (scythes, polearms) have retarded whiff animations for no reason that makes them feel like shit.
>Worst-in-series BS spam.
There u go m8

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Anyone who thinks this masterpiece isn't superior to the entirety of the Dark 'muh hardcore gayme for hardcore gaymurs such as muhself *tips fedora*' Souls franchise in every way should honestly just return to reddit right now.

>>389643043
It does have the easiest bosses and is the easiest game. Only bosses I actually had trouble with were Maneater(s) and Flamelurker, and you can just cheese the first Maneater through the fog wall. Its still great though, and is better than Bloodborne and DaS3.

>>389643356
Using just difficulty as a measure for how good a game in this series is is a fundamental mistake. Difficulty doesn't mean shit if it isn't paired with good design.

>>389643356
>get to Maneaters
>kill the first one before the second one shows up

>get to Flamelurker
>block his attacks, attack him once, repeat

I really don't get this meme that these are hard, is it because I was doing faith/Moonlight master race?

>>389643515
Flamelurker is a matter of patience, really. Maneaters though aren't really hard, i'ts just that fighting on that bridge against two enemies leads to a lot of deaths by gravity.

>>389643632
this reminds me of a huge flaw of DeS: the amount of small spaces you have to deal with, some with insta-death pitfalls, probably the thing I noticed the most going to DaS1, I didn't feel like I was fighting the camera anymore

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>least amount of memes
http://imgur.com/a/eSXdv/layout/grid

>>389633210
Nostalgia is one hell of a drug.

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>>389643905

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>>389643905
I found a really good gem there.

>>389643174
>Here Anon says Storm King, a well know DaS III boss

except he was clearly referring to DeS with "genociding these flying fuckers with a legendary sword afrer being constantly shot by them through the entire level"

retard

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>>389643905
I really miss the old DeS threads.

>>389644153
Those were the days /v/....

>>389643807
You may complain about the camera, but small spaces are not a flaw. They're part of the challenge. They are what makes the Maneaters and those giant pointy nosed dudes in 5-1 a real pain the ass, because you can't just roll sideways.

>>389638703
>later games improved on every single aspect but the bosses
It still has some of the best and toughest level design compared to the later games, and Latria might just be the best level design and atmosphere of any environment in the series.

>>389644251
as if DaS memes weren't the same shit

>>389644116
cut him some slack, he probably never played DeS

>>389644298
>making half of the game's weapons' movesets useless
>good game design
pick one, and only one

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>>389644153
DeS and early DaS threads had been so great, then PC ruined everything as usual.

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>>389644472
this is true

>>389633210
It's not even close to being the best souls game. It did a ton of things very poorly.

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>>389644472
The early days of PC DaS were fantastic.

>>389644472
Unironically true.
>>389644742
It were not.

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>>389633210
I've only played Dark Souls III, but the soundtrack to Demon Souls is superior. Check is gorgeous song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqhqbsdpAXo

I really get that "religious" feel to it that I got while playing Nier Automata. Is the game actually good? Does it stand the test of time?

>>389644472
post the real version, the gif with the actually good Souls player rolling through everything

also,
>games don't sell on PC, they only sell well on consoles
>Dark Souls' became mainstream and attracted people I don't like
>it's PC's fault that Dark Souls threads were ruined (even if nothing changed besides console warring faggots starting shit)

can you decide which narratives you asshats want to go with, and keep only non-contradictory ones?

>>389640965

>trick weapon
It's the essentialy the same as two hand mode of the previous games, nothing but a slightly changed here

>blood vials
Estus but worse, its a regresion

>dashing when locked on (even if it was completely inferior to rolling except when dashing diagonally towards a boss would make the boss miss everything, in which case it was overpowered)
If its inferior its not an inovation you dumb fuck

>changed the shit backstab into something decent
Agree

>visceral attacks in general
Parrying is more satisfying and requires more skill

>chalice dungeons (were shit, however)
Grinding dungeons, these things existed before you were born

>>389644393
As if ALL areas in DeS were small spaces, which doesn't happen. The game makes it clear that different environments and different enemies may require different weapons.
If you're in a small space, perhaps you should use a thrust weapon or a smaller sword. You're not gonna use the bone crusher or whatever it's called there, for fucks sake.

>>389644996
>>389640965
I know I'm not the only one who loved chalice dungeons. I loved spelunking random ass dungeons I'd make. Saw some crazy shit. Roaming bosses, oddly located treasure chests, rare weapons, rare enemies, etc.

>>389641024

You seem to have no idea what you are talking about and desperatly trying to find excuses to shill your favorite game

>>389645121

Is Bloodborne your first "rpg"? Every chalice felt like a rehash

>>389644996
the guy asked about new things in the formula, but I agree with most of your points (except that "if its inferior its not an inovation you dumb fuck")

>>389645121
I don't see how anyone with more than 2 brain cells can enjoy those after the first two, as you start to see patterns and the reusage of assets becomes jarring, I only forced myself through them to experience the exclusive bosses, and in the end I came out with a sour taste in my mouth because I had gone through around 6~8 hours I think to finally get to Yarnham, which was a fun boss, but not worth all that time

>>389645171
You seem to have no idea how to refute me, so you just make some vague statement trying to put me to shame by saying nothing of substance

>>389645103
you could argue something about the game wanting you to use more weapons, but then I just got more proficient with stabbity stab weapons and never fucking used horizontal swinging weapons because I got so used to stabbity/vertical swingers

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>>389645259
nah when I was younger I loved shit like Baldur's Gate and I am a fan of the Etrian Odyssey games. I just like that kin of shit I guess. I just really loved Bloodborne so anything that gave me more reason to play it I like.

Meinn igger, PS3 games are nowhere close to be emulated on PC, fucking CELL processor.

>>389645439
>you could argue something about the game wanting you to use more weapons
Thought about that, but sounded like a lame excuse. Though it might be what the devs wanted, who knows.

>>389645510
>PS3 games are nowhere close to be emulated on PC,
what?
https://youtu.be/v3_WiNow_gE?t=29
are you going to say that this is "nowhere near close"?

>>389645724
I was going to mention gear load in DeS, but I really don't remember how much it makes you heavier since it's been over 5 years, so I don't really remember how much worse it is to carry another weapon around with you for your rolling

>>389633210
Yes.

Once it becomes easier to access, it will no longer be hipster, so /v/ will stop making shit up about how great it is since everyone will have played it and and will have seen how inferior it is to it's successors.

>>389644863
Definitely, it aged very well
t. someone who finished his first playthrough less than a month ago

I'll always like DeS best because it was so good back in the day when it came out. Dark Souls felt like such a rehash in comparison (not that I complained, it's still a great game)

>>389633312
You are literally correct and Demoncucks will never admit. They even defend grass, magic and stonefang for fucks sake.

>>389633210
You know I have some of the fondest memories of Demon's Souls connected to the best years of my life and my mother who was still alive back then (she died yesterday) but I gotta let you on a little secret senpai. DaS > DeS

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>>389643905
>All those lewd maiden pics
I used to terribly underappreciate her. I stand corrected

This is harsh
Evaluate me

Do we have any info on how the cut archstone was supposed to look like?

>>389633312
>ywn be this pleb
feels good desu senpai

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>>389649464
There are some youtube videos where people got into that area and ran around. Surprisingly detailed, iirc.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPJUQg_U5HY

>>389649601
>says he's no pleb
>gets caught by the wordfilter twice

>>389633210
>the least popular
It's only the least popular (or, rather, least played) because it's exclusive to a horrid Sony console.

May your Soul find rest, Mother.

https://youtu.be/CqhqbsdpAXo

>>389649850
Yeah, I checked it out now. The level itself looks meh(probably would be more impressive when finished obviously), but the cut tribal/beastmen enemies look cool, although strangely unfitting to the fortress-like environment. And those fucking mimics....
Shame we never got to see what bosses were supposed to be there.

>DeS soundtrack is always brought up
>based Phalanx theme is NEVER mentioned

feels bad, man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSLKwfeRdTg

>>389633312
>worst gameplay
>worst bosses
nigger what. Demon's Souls had the most creative boss designs in the whole series. I agree on it being the easiest though

>>389650614
Good taste, definitely one of the best tracks in the game

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>those DeS /v/ threads before DaS ruined the community

So fucking comfy, only AC threads come close

>>389651021
>muh comfy
I'm going to bet that by AC you mean Animal Crossing, one of the worst game franchises in existance

>>389651385
AC = Armored Core

>>389651021
>>389651385
>>389652146
Fuck, I though you meant Assassin's Creed and was wondering how could you possibly consider them that comfy
They're aren't too bad though

>>389640768
Das is the real rehash, even dark souls 2 seems to do things more differently than das did with des' systems.

>>389640256
BB>>>das>des>ds2>ds3

>>389652146
while a delusional muh sekrit club fag, as well as a comfyfag scum, at least you have good taste

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>>389651385
>>389652230
It was actually Ace Combat

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I think the bosses are underrated. They really need to remake this game soon with improved boss movesets. Armored Spider is actually the greatest boss From has ever created. You seamlessly switch between two phases throughout the fight and it's the best use of a boss arena they've ever thought of. They just need to make the actual fight better. Every fight just needs to be better while keeping the puzzle.

>>389649464
Imagine eleum loyce but populated with wolfmen, owl sorcerers, and giants.

>>389654437
Dragon god is trash and you know it.

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>>389633210
>Gook Souls
end yourself

>>389654970
But it could be improved. The idea is fine. Imagine if you needed five harpoons instead in a bigger, more well designed arena with better stealth.
What could also work is two harpoons to get his health to half and his size reduces because he's lost power, then have a boss fight with a muscle dragon that is harder than Flamelurker.

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About to play this for the first time. Any tips on how to maximize enjoyment?

>>389650232
>being worried about the wordfilter
pleb baka desu senpai

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Did Demon's Souls have shockwaves? You never see many webms flying around but thats probably because its PS3 only

>>389655791
Don't use magic.
Don't worry about world tendency because it'll stress you out too much on your first play through.
Remember to use Stockpile Thomas, your character can't carry a mirrion items.
DON'T HIT ANYONE, they'll be aggro'd permanently and there's no forgiveness.
Your character can sometimes climb small ledges. Move towards a chest high wall to see if you can, it might take a second.
Piercing, slashing, etc, matters a little more in this game than in DaS1.

Demons souls has pretty good hitboxes as far as ive seen. Ive played through it many times and ive never encountered anything that hit me when it looked like it shouldnt have.

>>389656357
>Your character can sometimes climb small ledges. Move towards a chest high wall to see if you can, it might take a second.
reminded me of that one ledge in tower of latria, which is where I found out about this since there was no other way to come back

>>389656443
meant for you
>>389656343

>>389655791
Having an access to reliable ranged attacks is much more helpful here than in later games(not to say that you can't beat the game without them)
World 4(Shrine of Storms) is a great soul farming area pretty much through the whole game, if you have good shield to block the skellies
World 3 gives you lots of resources for mages
World 2 gives you a better blacksmith and is a good place to farm most kinds of ore
If you want to see as much as you can in the game, read about world tendency, as this is something you probably won't figure out on your own
If you're running out of grass just farm a bit on skellies/reaper in 4 and stock yourself up at some merchant. World 2 has an easily accessible one right at the beginning, although you're overpaying a bit while buying from him. Once you get Patches to Nexus you can buy higher quality grass from him relatively cheap
Don't give up
If you've played other souls games you should mostly feel right at home

>>389650690
>flamelurker
>allant
>doran
>easy
yeah theyre easy once youve played the game through a few times, but any game is. running into flamelurker for the first time, playing on game release was suffering

>>389656357
>Piercing, slashing, etc, matters a little more in this game than in DaS1.
Oh also this, especially early game. Some enemies are highly resistant to blades while susceptible to blunts and vice versa, this really makes a big difference. It's usually quite logical who should you hit with what though.

>>389633312
It had the best bosses because they were gimmicky as fuck

>>389656343
I wonder about that. I've never experienced anything I'd consider complete bullshit in my 20 play throughs.

>>389656845
>played DeS multiple times
>still can't beat Doran without using a halberd
fuck that guy

>>389656845
I literally beat flamelurker on my first try and allant on my second. And no, I wasn't using magic, pure melee.

>>389633210
DeS is shit. I can't wait for it to be emulatable. Thanks for beta testing you fucking shitheads

>>389656845
>>389658023
Allant was fairly easy, especially if you've already had experience with Dark Souls, since this fight is so similar to many DaS and especially DaS 2 fights.
Flamelurker did give me a hard time though. Easily the hardest DeS boss for me.

>>389641495
>The controls are clunky AF,

Anyone who says "Clunky" unironically needs to be shot.

Am I the only one who refuses to use magic?

>low levels
>never put anything in magic
>just use my wits, items, and weapons

>>389658327
>It's shit, can't wait to play
lol

>>389658023
Congrats, I beat O and S first try with my bear fists, doesn't mean most people did.

Who is the artist for From Software? Because they seemed to make decent lookign games, but all of a sudden with Demon Souls they were putting out amazing creepy designs and atmosphere. The designs really are half of the appeal of these games.

>>389658661
Same on first playthrough, on next ones I like to spice things up.
>>389658730
>/v/

>>389656343

Look at his movement. He's doing a THRUSTING attack. That's why he gets grabbed.

>>389658661
Feels like the intended way to play DeS. Makes you think like an adventurer. Magic negates all thought in every boss fight.

>>389658490
thats what im saying, playing demons souls on release, allant was not easy. with experience in a souls game, the rest of the souls games are easy as fuck because theyre so formulaic. same goes for demons souls

>>389656343
soon that should change since emulation is getting there

>>389637893
Fuck off. Baby's like you are the reason das3 online is pure cancer. No op shit to abuse only boring plain estus drinking shitfest.

>>389656845
Flamelurker made me drop melee for a while and invest some points into magic stuff on my first playthrough. Now that I've gitten gud and fought countless harder bosses in the Dark Souls series and Bloodborne, I don't have that much trouble with him anymore, although he's still a bit challenging

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>>389645121
Me, I saved them for last in my current run.

>>389658827
We know the reason why he's getting grabbed but it's still visually bullshit. A game needs to accurately display your error.

>>389633210
nope, it's a good game, but dark souls 1 is pretty much an enhanced version in terms of gameplay and the same goes for dark souls 2

>>389644863
I never noticed how similar that song is to Nameless Song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvvFnR0kJFw

>>389644996
Sorry you have shit taste, DaSbabby

>>389658661
>tfw I refuse to use magic/long range weapons
>tfw Shrine of Amana

>>389658730
Maybe if it didn't look and run like ass it might be decent.

>>389644996
>It's the essentialy the same as two hand mode of the prev-
No

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>>389659702
>shrine of amana
>mfw remembering THAT PART

>>389641495
>The controls are clunky AF
they're exactly the same as Dark Souls 1 but smoother

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>>389647579
Maiden has been my favorite Soulsborne girl since day 1

DaS2 > Demon's > DaS1 > BB > DS3
Why?
Because I value open ended-progression and character customization. Demon's isn't a lot more customizable than Dark 1, 3, and BB but it is a lot more open-ended. DaS2 is most open-ended and customizable.

>>389641495
>In a game where you play a knight in clunky armor the controls are clunky
I bet you say shit like "artificial difficulty" unironically.

>>389637893
None of those faggots could handle my cloak and fatal estoc. Maybe you just needed to be better.

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>>389633210
>>389658327
uhh you can emulate and beat demon's souls right now actually. you just need a high spec computer

Post the worst boss from every game.

Demon's - Leechmonger
Dark 1 - Bed of Chaos
Dark 2 - Covetous Demon / Prowling Magus and Congregation
Bloodborne - Celestial Emissary
Dark 3 - Deacons of the Deep

>>389661401
>Dragon Shit
>Bed of Shit
>Ancient Shit
>Undead shit w/swords
>Ancient Shit 2: Electric Boogaloo

>>389633312
It was difficult before Souls became a meme about being difficult.
The "prepare to die xD" meme killed the series.

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>tfw we'll never see a Souls game with egyptian/greek mythological creatures/themes

>>389661401
>Not dragon god or dirty colossus
Prowling Magus was actually a cool idea, but it was forgettable as hell.