An old school shooter done right from the looks of it. Anyone

>>389618428
>done right

shit, bad, amateurish maps, the most important part of an oldschool shooter

0/10 you tried

>>389618490
>shit, bad,
Compelling Arguments faggotron


Its a ok game...the whole shit graphics for nostalgia seens lame as fuck...that movement with tdays graphics would be great.

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remember STRAFE? same shit

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>that movement with tdays graphics would be great

this game right here

>>389619017
>nuDOOM
>oldschool
GenZ pls go

>>389619017
D44M looks like shit mate, and plays even worse.

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>>389618813
"level" from Dusk

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>>389621052

>>389621052
>>389621123
that looks awesome

>>389621262
what looks awesome?

>>389618428
Depends on the level design. I just played that shadowrun remake and it was a piece of shit. The levels were linear and the demons would just spawn horde instead of being intricately placed like the old fps game. It honestly felt exactly like duke nukem forever.

Its definitely a step in the right direction. I do agree that the maps are mediocre with some downright bad sections. The shooting is solid though, but the game is way too easy and lacking enemy numbers. The scarecrow enemies are also poorly balanced. Too tanky and significantly harder to dodge than anything else. They are an absolute nightmare on the one hit kill difficulty. Also putting the weak human enemies at the end was a mistake, theyre far more fun to fight than the cultist mages.
>>389621123
Thats a terrible comparison because one is abstract while the other aims to simulate a real environment. Compare it to Blood.

>>389621591
it's not "Abstract" its fucking slapdash garbage. Quake aims to simulate a real environment? right.

>>389621873
Other way around, Quake maps are abstract nonsense which is why they can get creative with the layout in a way that realistic levels can't. Maps generally became more sparse and uninteresting once fps started trying to mimic real life environments and DUSK fell for that meme too.

Is Devil Daggers any better?

>>389622427
Completely different games. Devil Daggers is a first person shooter version of Robotron without the RNG. It's one single arena you play to get a high score. It's good for what it is, but I can't see anyone who isn't a fan of arcade games caring about it.

>>389618428
everything I've seen from it so far looks great, lets hope it plays great as well

>>389622887
Just pirate episode 1. It's alright.

yeah its ok the only proper oldschool shooter will be Ion maiden
>>389619017
No, Doom 4 is an embarrassment.

>>389621052
A touch bland, but not bad. Open space levels with few enemies make for good introductory/transitory segments.
>>389621123
That's great. What are you on about?

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>>389621123
>>389621052
quake is alright but I wouldn't say every map is a 10/10 and it was always less to do with the actual map and more how you navigate through it. Also Dusk is obviously taking inspiration from redneck rampage which did have that flat open design, the real problem with dusk's levels is when it's indoors or underground and very restrictive, theyve gotta find a good balance and scale to the rooms.
imo Descent 2 is the pinnacle of 3D level design

>>389618428
Maps are awful, the enemies boring and non threatening. I started Blood instead and holy shit, that one's amazing.
Hopefully the Iron Maiden will deliver.

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episode 1 was pretty good
hopefully the new episodes have some new weapons and enemies
the weapon selection isnt the best

>>389618428
>An old school shooter
again?

>>389627125
Only weapon I really had an issue with was the crossbow since it's so easy to abuse. A weapon that can shoot through walls probably isn't the best idea, especially since you can use it to cheat against the E1 boss.

>>389618428
Dusk is fucking great
Dusk is to quake what nuDOOM should have been to doom

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Loving it so far.
Definitely worth the wait.

>Get your hands on the shotgun
>"Groovy"
>mfw

>>389618428
>shit level design
>shitty graphics and art direction
These shovelware games should be given for free but then again these only exist only to be quick nostalgia cashgrabs and nothing else. They are the opposite of what old shooters did which is push technology and manage to have great level design and well made architecture on very limited tech.

>>389621052
Looks like my first map i made for Unreal, what a joke.

>>389627782
So remove all what did quake great like level design and theme? Thank god DOOM 4 wasn't like this then.

>>389629490
Nah they exist as passion projects that have to make a lot of sacrifices because they're ultimately held back by a lack of experience and budget. If you seriously think any of these types of games are "quick cashgrabs" then you're utterly clueless.

>>389629691
We had much better passion projects back then and even much better free mods for unreal and quake for free back then, projects which had even more quality sometimes than even the vanilla content, only clueless people are the retards who never found projects like these and rather waste money on cheaply made garbage becase it´s looks like minecraft, since i don't remember quake looking like a mappers first attemp.

I played episode 1 and I thought it was good, but the sound design was lacking overall. Enemies sounded more bored than anything else, the boss "voice" was pretty lame, some weapons don't sound very good, and the music didn't really do it for me.

>>389630040
I hope youre not implying that making some doom or quake maps is comparable to making your own game from scratch even if it uses a babby friendly engine like Unity. Mods also arent a replacement for new games. Yes there have been better passion project but thats irrelevant to the point. I will never understand why you fags insist on poorly guessing dev intentions when you criticize a game.

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>>389630040
Sometimes people like to explore the roots of classic games. What do you think map projects like the Doom the Way id Did are about and why do you think they go with the vanilla engine instead of something like Gzdoom or Eternity? The idea is to focus more on achieving the aesthetics of the original games while also focusing on the overall designs of the original levels in terms of gameplay and structure and trying to recreate that.

Same goes for projects like Harmony:
http://rabotik.nl/harmony.htm
Yeah it doesn't look like much until you look into the actual production behind it i.e. the way the guy who made it used the same methods commonly used for creating sprites back in the day, i.e. creating clay models, posing them, taking pictures, and editing the photos into sprites that conformed to the game's palette.

>>389618428
I really enjoyed it, it's at it's best when there is a dense but open level with plenty of enemies, like the later one with the petrol station.
The worst was the secret level which was just an underground tunnel thing with no room to jump around.
All in all for someone that loves doom more than quake, I wish it was a little more like doom but it's first episode was like a 7.5/10. I have a feeling things will pick up with better abstract design and enemy placement later on

>>389619017
The movement in Dusk is way better than nu-Doom. It has a slide and you can flip upside down mid-jump. Nu-Doom is just generic AAA shit.

>>389633842
>Nu-Doom is just generic AAA shit.
And Dusk is generic indie shit.

>>389621262
If you are blind, yes.
>>389633884
>arguing with /vr/etards
Don't do this.

QA for dusk here. open to answering any questions i can.

>>389634227
how much you get paid for shilling?

>>389634287
i dont shill. i dont make threads. i've been lurking here before i got involved.

>>389618428
>old school shooter
How many times have I heard that? It's never true.

>>389635263
The quality is debateable but its definitely an old school shooter in every way