Are you getting it?

>>389613168
yes if Noctis and Cid(type-0) gets in

>>389613168
If the offline system is good, yes.
I don't play online games

>>389613619
>I don't play online games

Why not? Online is pretty much the meat of these kind of games

>>389613828
first because I don't like to pay for PS Plus and second because online games are always cancer with lag and shit people

>>389613168
If it has customization comparable to the psp ones I will.

Does it have Jecht?

I would totally lay a Dissidia game that is all about Jecht.

>>389613619
I'm the same. I need really solid offline content.

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told myself I'd get the original if either Locke/Vivi/Auron got in

still waiting

>>389614041
>I don't like to pay for PS Plus
>online games always lag

favela dweller spotted

Day one, never played a dissidia game before though, it looks fucking mad good.

>>389614406
I have decent upload speed but everytime I play against someone in japan or nordic countries they have an advantage.
Even if I had 30GB upload speed I wouldn't play offline. Last time I had fun with online was in 2011 or 2012 I don't remember

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>>389613168
Will for best boy.

>>389614589
>wouldn't play *online

>>389613168
Probably. Day one? We'll see.

>>389613168
Very yes, the beta was a ton of fun.
>>389614328
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k_lml58u68

>>389615092
man I didn't know japanese jecht sounds like a little sissy boy that gets fucked in the ass by pig nosed fat otakus

i played the shit out of the psp games. played the beta on this, and it was just okay. really hoping for 1v1, because 3v3 is chaotic. overall it didn't really feel good compared to the psp games.

>>389614535
You should play them, they're really great and fun to play. PPSSPP is a god emulator and it can run them easily.
>>389615307
1v1, 2v2 and 2v1 are available in lobbies, but the game is designed for 3v3 and it's really not difficult to get used to, it's just a matter of staying aware of the map. Don't know what you mean by how it felt either, it felt just fine to me and I played both of the old games an obscene amount.

>>389613168
Wiegraf when? Ramza is cool, but I want him as well.

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>>389613168
Holy shit. They have Garland.

>>389613168
No Rydia, no buy.

>played Emperor yesterday
>get rank 2 or 3 in any lost games

Great character, but I'm still not good enough to carry shitters.

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>>389613168
If they include Beatrix. Her song's in so there is a chance.

Not sure if I can cancel my preorder on Amazon, but I can't find any information about receiving a nail bat from them.

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>final fantasy game
>named after best windows
Of fucking course!

Is this like Gundam Versus where it is completely unplayable without a good connection? My upload speed is probably the worst on /v/.

>>389613168
Day 1. I loved the beta and the previous two games

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Edgar when?

Also Reynn from WoFF.

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>still no Wakka

Come on. Using the blitzballs would be so fun in a game like this.

>>389613828
Well, to start, the Dissidia 012 & OG were GOAT offline games. I know this shit is not the same, but he does have a point. I might if it has a good story like the previous ones. I loved how it all tied up to FFI which is my favorite one of them all.

>>389617570
i would join the Wakka crusade

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>>389617570

I like Firion so yes

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>All these people hoping for 1v1
Enjoy getting your ass ravaged.

>>389618081
They've said there'll be offline content and a story of sorts, but we don't really know how much they're going to have in there. That said the game will be great online so it would be worth it for that.

>1v1
>everyone just picks Jecht

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>>389620360
>No Summons
>Sephiroth Only
>Porta Decumana
I don't see a problem

>>389620454
Yeah, I don't know how people can't see how it would clearly be unbalanced in 1v1, on the same scale as the old games, plus it's really not that hard to adapt to the team pace. The 1v1 scenarios that happen during the normal 3v3 fights are so fun precisely because they're against the backdrop of the larger battle going on.

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>>389613168
yeah probably
they fucked the combat hard in this one though, so its going to be hard to enjoy it beyond the fanservice/singleplayer

>>389620454
Sephiroth vs Jecht would be fun I think even though Seph outranges him by a lot.

>>389621004
I was looking at a long battle with a shitty squal double summoning Bahamut. I see your point. It looks like a scaled up og Dissidia. Shame on the combos, though.

What the fuck did they do to my boy squall, he looks nothing the psone fmvs, no homo

if it's 40 bucks maybe. If it's full price then no. I don't really see it having a lasting player base

>>389613168
God no, it's awful. I played it in an arcade when it came out and I want those 200 yens back.

>>389621752
Video games have been $60 for years I dunno why people still complain about th pricing

>>389613331
Noctis, and probably Ardyn too, will most definitely be in

>>389621691
What do you mean? There are plenty combos possible, perhaps more than before since you can combo off of wallrushes yourself and a teammate can act in place of an assist.

>>389613168
Was super hype until I realized its a port of an arcade game so it'll be lacking all RPG elements
>No equipment
>No customizable movesets
>No custom skills
>No 20+ hour story mode
I'll wait for Dissidia 011 instead

>>389622609
This.

I really need a reason to play single player.

>>389615294
It's much better than his English voice and suits his character. He speaks with an Kansai dialect, it works with his type of character.

>>389622663
>>389622609
I didn't think people would care about all that boring stuff so much.

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>>389613168
If best boys are in, yes

Serieously, I was disappointed they chose Laguna over Seifer

>>389613168
when they let us have more then one hp move, add bad ex modes, or at least show they care about characters like warrior of light and frion by giving them class change and blood weapons as ex skills rather then just saying that they are using said skill and just have them glow.

>>389620360
3v3 is a mess. 3D fighters rarely work when they're more than 1 person against another. Just look at JJBA:EOH, it ruined the game. 1v1 better be standard during the story.

>>389621004
Because juggling multiple people at once or having multiple people targeting you is unfair and ruins the game. 1v1 is the best option. Happened with Smash Bros as well. 4 player+ matches are a mess on that.

>>389622804
The first two had lots of really good content for single player, the story had map challenge type things. There was a mystery dungeon style labyrinth too, I spent fucking hours upon hours on 012.

>>389622804
I care because I most likely won't play multiplayer. I never do for games like this and Smash Bros.

>>389622868
Are they still worth buying?

>>389622908
012 has all the content of the first game, it's pretty cheap and comfy on the Vita.

What the fuck did they do to exdeath?

>>389615542
>1v1, 2v2 and 2v1 are available in lobbies, but the game is designed for 3v3 and it's really not difficult to get used to, it's just a matter of staying aware of the map. Don't know what you mean by how it felt either, it felt just fine to me and I played both of the old games an obscene amount.
I am forced to play one roll on my team and you have to build around your team, it fucking sucks. I hate when I am forced to play in teams 1v1 was way better, but thanks to the retarded decision of only one hp move per match I am stuck playing 3v3 because that change makes 1v1 unplayable

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>>389622804
It was rare running into someone with another copy of the game, so all you had was single player really, and it got deep. The labyrinth forced you to make all sorts of crazy builds in order to win, and 012 even had a story mode with the FF1 an overworld and all that. And once you got bored and just went endlessly into versus cpu mode, the customization keep it fresh as you could try all sorts of mixes and matches on moves and skills, especially people like Cecil, Golbez, Prishe, Bartz, Terra, etc.

tl;dr PSP Dissidia 012 was an RPG that played like a fighting game, and NT is just a fighting game

>>389622936
>I hate when I am forced to play in teams
This. I hate being forced to play in teams. I want to rely on myself and fight someone on even grounds. All it takes is for the other 2 people in your team to fuck up and then you're left to fight 3 people at once. That's not fun.

>>389622840
You mean ultimecia over seifer? He'd be chaos

>Japanese arcade players have been playing 3v3 just fine with no issues for two years but amerifats can't deal with it

>>389622924
>012 has all the content of the first game
Nah, Dissidia 1 def had the better Gabranth, he was a true judge among warriors

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>>389622934
Is he better or worse than this?

>>389623190
Oh except for balance changes, I doubt it'll affect his experience.

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>low-budget spinoff entirely devoted to fanservice pandering
>ends up being the best FF for over a decade

What went right?

>>389623189
>Japanese arcade players have been playing 3v3 just fine with no issues for two years but amerifats can't deal with it
I've heard Japan really like teamwork in games because of their "stronger together" mentality.

It's basically just not balanced and not fun. The only game I've seen it work with lately was Gundam Versus because the maps were big enough and the AI knew to fuck off and not gang up on one player.

>>389622609
HP attacks and Ex Skills are customizable and you learn them by increasing levels, and you can also earn alt costumes, weapons and colours in the same way for cosmetics. No one knows what the story or single player content will actually be like yet.
>>389622841
>these characters don't have these specific things exactly the way I liked them even though they have other new aspects, that means they don't care!

>>389622936
>>389623117
this, they made it impossible to play 1v1 to with the changes to how the gameplays so even if you want to play 1v1 it will feel like shit. At least with games like gundam vs you can play 1v1 and while unbalanced as fuck can still be fun

>>389623293
It's a shame that the script is genuinely bad and how bad the artstyle is. I wish every character was "giant" styled like the twins.

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>>389623293
>the preorder-only DLC still isnt available for regular purchase

>>389623372
What are the changes they made?

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This game looks like those shitty Naruto one-button fighters. Am I wrong about how it plays?

>>389613168
>that confident looking cloud with a firm grip on his sword and head held high

Did Square finally realize which Cloud people actually want? Could it be?

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>>389623418
>locking the Japanese dub behind the Day One/Limited Edition copies on the PS4

And I thought Sony charging for the Japanese audio track for SSD was out of the ordinary.

Though it's free on the Vita version, weirdly.

>>389623462
Nah there's a bunch of actions, you gotta time shit right.

You can spam attacks but you'll get punished for it, even by the AI.

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>>389613168
Only if

>there is a 1v1 mode
>the UI is drastically changed
>rail grinding is back
>all the old villians are back
>they dont try and sell us old characters again as DLC (like Laguna or Tifa) and offer them free when available
>they somehow include Dissidia 012 in the game secretly and I can just play that instead

So basically. . . no.

Is Kain still in this shit?

Kain is so fucking cool

>>389623473
Okay, so I haven't finished FFVII. What is the problem people have with Cloud? Isn't it understandable that he's "emo" after losing a good friend and having his whole identity destroyed? He doesn't seem to cheerful in the game either.

>>389623335
>these characters don't have these specific things exactly the way I liked them even though they have other new aspects, that means they don't care!
you are a retard but nice try, let me explain why
one of Firions ex skills is blood weapon, his ex mode in the old games. in the old games it made all his weapons blood weapons like the name implies, in this shit? he just gets a red aura great! same with Warrior of light one of his ex skills is changing classes to his advanced class, does he get his other armor no, he again gets a shitty aura.

Now lets look at Terra, she turns into esper mode, Butz, he gets his master class 3 star thing, why the fuck do Firion and WoL get shafted in the fan service department and why the fuck should I not complain. I am not asking for special treatment I am asking for equal treatment

>>389613168
Depends, will it be just another remake like 012 or have it's own plot?

>>389623508
I don't know why they did, maybe the licensing was expensive or they didn't have faith in the preorders? Japanese audio is free in games like FFXV, FFXIV, FFXII, Nier Automata etc.

>>389623545
They stated that they wanted the entire roster of Duodecim to return along with new characters like Ramza, Ace, and Y'shtola

>>389622849
How is it unfair when you both have an equal amount of people on your team? You just need more awareness for when someone tries to ambush you. It also doesn't ruin it at all since it allows for new interesting strategies and coordination with your team.
>>389622936
One HP attack is not what would make 1v1 unbalanced, you are not forced to play one role because of the smaller team size and characters having quite a few options. Or you can let the team be built around you and play well enough to carry it.
>>389623117
The grounds are plenty even, if you can't trust your teammates or help them then find people you can work with.

>>389623117

I simply do not understand why they aren't adding in a bunch of single player content when this game has been out for years in arcades.

>>389623545
About the only thing you said which is an actual complaint is the lack of Quick Move, everything else is uninformed whining. You admit yourself you only want to play the same game again so why did you even bother to post?

>>389623437
basically forces you to become one member of a party and play a role in the team, so now in 1v1 certain characters are at massive disadvantage because they are built around that system.

>>389623545
Every piece of dlc is earnable ingame through gil. Please please tell me what rail grinding would add. Tell me why you want it.

>>389623696
>One HP attack is not what would make 1v1 unbalanced, you are not forced to play one role because of the smaller team size and characters having quite a few options. Or you can let the team be built around you and play well enough to carry it.
well you pretty much said it each character has quite a few options, but if you all play the same style you are at a horrible disadvantage so no your forced to play as a team you can not go solo in this game so really you proved my point so thanks?

>>389623696
>How is it unfair when you both have an equal amount of people on your team? You just need more awareness for when someone tries to ambush you. It also doesn't ruin it at all since it allows for new interesting strategies and coordination with your team.
Consider the following:
>I want to fight on person and focus ONLY on them
>If my team mates suck, I'll be fighting 3 people by myself
>1v1 is just more fun; I don't want crazy situations, just a fair match

>The grounds are plenty even, if you can't trust your teammates or help them then find people you can work with.
I don't want to be forced to work as a team or organize people to play with. It's a pain.

>>389623710
I would never buy a fighter that doesn't have a single player story. It's not good value.

>>389623776
That's shit. It's a fighter, making certain characters "support" roles is an awful design decision. They should all be DPS. Once again "muh teamwork" ruins another game.

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Am I in a minority in absolutely detesting all that RPG mechanic stuff in the PSP Dissidias?
I say this as someone who loves RPGs and I understand they prob did it because its a RPG franchise but I personally do not want to see that shit when I am playing a "fighting game."

It's like playing Guilty Gear in M.O.M mode or that similar mode in Blazblue, alright for like an hour vs bots then boring as hell.
Never managed to see what it would be like vs people but I imagine silliness.

>itt
>people wanting 1v1
>people defending 3v3 saying its better
ever think maybe people hate playing team games?

>>389623878
No one is a support you idiot. Except maybe Ace and even that's a stretch.

>>389623585
He's not cheerful, no. He's just Stoic, which they've exchanged for emo in most things outside of the original. He's confident and strong in the original. He plays the vidya and knows how to beat some ass. He hears that Sephiroth is alive and instead of crying and moaning about shit he just goes "Time to kill him again"

He does have some down time after Aerith dies, which is completely understandable, and him being sad over someone he cared about dying is often what people try to use as evidence of original Cloud being "emo". But he snaps out of it perfectly fine and goes right back to his beat the shit out of Sephiroth plan.

>>389613168

Yes. I played this at PAX and it is just like the PSP games. Knowing that /v/'s age remains the same, I am unsure how many have played those games.

Having 3 on 3 matches was fun.

>>389623776
Wait, how does that even work?

>3v3 game where most people would be fighting 1 other player
>One character has to support others with buffs
>A fighter character fights them
>They can't defend their self
>Their team mates are too busy fighting other people

So wouldn't some people have to be fucked over in the end?

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>>389623585

>>389623959
But wasn't that confident and strong personality Zack?

>>389623760
>Complaining about missing characters from originals as wanting them not to end up paid DLC
>uninformed whining

ok
>>389623789
It was another movement option available in most of the stages.
It is now taken away as far as I can tell.

That's the only justification I need for wanting it back. Instead of expanding on a feature, they've taken it away and replaced it with nothing.

>>389624050
yes, but in the end he still pretty much adopts it fully

>Think Dissida sounds cool
>Watch gameplay
>People flying everywhere like dragon ball shit
Dropped

>>389624091
Oh, ok. I didn't know that. I thought he had an identity crisiscore.

>>389623598
In FF2, the only blood weapon available was the Blood Sword, which is already his default sword in all Dissidias, if anything the way it is now is far closer to how the original game dealt with it, so trying to say the other game was an accurate homage is wrong and they're ironically more correct in having less done here, though he has entire different sets of weapons available to unlock and select so it doesn't matter anyway. Warrior of Light's Ex Skill in this game isn't changing class, and in FF1 it wasn't temporary either. This new Ex Skill does far more towards making him unique and interesting (he's basically the only true tank in the game still) than the old Ex Mode ever did. He again has different costumes and weapons available too.

>>389624150
It's fine, it looks kind of silly though

I wish it would have just been a 2D fighter or a good smash clone

>>389624030
I wonder if they'll change him in VIIR?

>>389624203
You should have complained when the PSP games came out then.

>>389624203
No 3D movement is fine.

Flying everywhere is not. Why would I want to play someone like Garland but fight in 3D space like I'm Goku?

>>389624050
No. He's acting how he thinks a Soldier 1st class should act, which is very conflicted and draws somewhat from how he viewed Zack and Sephiroth. It's subtle but an important distinction. When he gets his shit together he acts different to how he does in the beginning, but still fairly sure of himself.

>>389624313
I should probably finish VII. I was only going off what I knew from AC. That really is weird.

>>389624171
in the first half, he's just doing a Zack impression. In the second half he is just strong and confident.

Either way, he never actually acts like the emo piece of shit he acts like in Advent Children or anything else

>>389624395
Looks like KH1 Cloud influenced AC.

>>389624313
one of the major plot points of FFVII is that he was literally just acting like Zack

>>389624305
Of all the shit that happens in Final Fantasy it's air dashing that breaks you? How the fuck did you even make it this far?

>>389624474
Stop that.

>>389623983
It's called you're all being a retard. No characters are at a massive disadvantage because of roles because roles don't even matter.

You only get fucked over if you pick a low tier character.

>>389623983
You niggas need to watch some gameplay if you haven't, heres your "support character" they aren't healing/buff butt buddies if you were expecting that kind of shit. They can hold their own in a team scenario.

https://youtu.be/Iwxu3IkDWqk?t=93

>Absolute dog shit UI and online

No

>>389624687
And Bartz is the only low tier it seems.

>>389623867
I can honestly barely read what you're trying to say here, but "roles" are very flexible in this game and coordination and awareness during the fight is what wins the day.
>>389623878
Then play Duodecim. Actually, play the first Dissidia, since assists already laid the groundwork for what this was going to be, and many people wanted the game to become a team fighting game even back then. Team based games aren't bad just because you don't like them or can't handle working as part of one, and implying it ruins it because you can't is stupid. Every character contributes to fights as well, support is not the way you assume it is.

>>389624395
>>389624445
>these niggas never played disc 2 of FFVII

>>389613168
I WANT TO MARRY LIGHTNING

>>389624740
Bartz got fucked hard because of his gimmick. He basically starts the game worse than every character and has to land attacks just to get close to their standard level. Most of his HP attacks are garbage too. If it weren't for his godlike buff skill no one would pick him, and even then you still have to level 3/4s of your attacks to make that buff EX skill worth it.

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Thank you for helping fix Cloud, Sakurai. Thank you

>>389624756
explain yourself

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>>389624876
>copy paste Dissidia Cloud
truly the biggest genius of our time

>>389624084
Considering most if not all returning characters are getting big updates to their movesets and are being made for a PS4, it is a bit naive. I see you agree with all the rest being uninformed though.

>>389624947
Cloud was a bitch throughout the entirety of disc 2 until Tifa fixed him in Mideel.

>>389613168


>Lighting is top center

I guess she's the main FINAL FANTASY now.

>>389625025
see
>>389623959

Being sad about someone dying while also being confined to a wheelchair are both perfectly believable excuses to be down.

>>389624474
The major plot point is that he's acting *insert my other post here*. The only times we see how Zack acts are during Cloud's rendition of the Nibelheim Incident at Kalm, and during the later flashbacks during and after he's getting his head unscrewed, and that isn't like how Cloud acts in the first disk.

>>389625153
The entire bullshit that let Sephiroth unleash the weapons was because Cloud was being a bitch.

>>389625097
Why is Square so focused on forcing this character that everyone hates?

>>389625252
>>389625097
Japan REALLY loves her for some fucking reason. Judging by character polls in most games, Japan has awful fucking taste.

>>389625097
>covered up by the logo
>has the second smallest space dedicated to her
More like Square is ashamed of her. Warrior of Light has the most space on the cover.

I want Tifa or Fran as playable character or I'm not buying.

>>389625406
I also want a "Date With Tifa" side quest in the game.

>>389625251
The way you type out sentences like a normie dudebro lead me to believe that you probably don't really know what you're talking about

>>389624393
Well shit nigga why are you asking important story questions when you haven't even finished the game? Get outta here before I feel bad about spoiling part of what is actually the best twist of FFVII.

>>389616541
Fuck yeah! She was not only hot for a chibi character, her theme was awesome.

>>389625406


I'm playing Age of Zodiak and now have a new appreciation for Fran.

I just wasn't into her when the original game came out I'm a Panelo fag

>>389620360
Will he have his supernova ability in this game?

>>389625153
He wasn't really just feeling upset when he was on the wheelchair, he was straight up comatose and unable to walk because of severe Mako poisoning.
>>389625251
I wouldn't call his reaction to having his world be completely flipped upside down and everything he thought he knew potentially being a lie "being a bitch", plus he didn't really get long to dwell on it before aforementioned wheelchair inducing Mako poison fuckery.

>>389625641
He's got Scintilla, Octaslash, Black Materia, and Heartless Angel. So no I guess?

I've never played a Dissidia game. What is Dissidia about and do you have to play the others to understand this PS4 one?

>character has girl he loves die
>immediately go into coma because of poison
>"why was he acting like such a bitch?"

>>389625406
All of the 012 characters are in.

>>389626005
Thats the plan but they aren't yet.

>>389625454
That'd be nice.

>>389624050
He took on Zacks persona after Zack died. He even claimed he was soldier first class when he was actually third class. But, while he always viewed himself as rather weak compared to his hero Sephiroth, he still was determined and strong to fight his hero to the bitter end. While conflicted with emotions on the loss of two friends (Aerith and Zack), he ended up being the strongest in the end.

Wasn't my first final fantasy, but still my favorite.

>Cloud chose ass over tits

Was he right boys?

>>389625930
It's an arena fighting game and you could google the story if you want but it really doesn't matter.

>>389625930
it's literally the most basic plot possible in order to have an excuse for everyone's favorite characters in a fighting game

It doesn't really matter

>>389626116
Which FF girl in Dissidia would you take on a date, anon?

>>389625790
Black materia? Doesn't that just summon the meteor? Oh well. BTW, I was always hoping they would use the original "one winged angel" song for him, not that Final fantasy advent children version.

>>389625496
I already had it spoiled for me ages ago, anon. Don't worry, I still want to play it.

>>389626120
I really need to finish it.

>>389626268
Not him but Terra is best girl

>>389626268
In Dissidia NT right now? No one, really. That's why I asked for Tifa or Fran. Rikku would be nice too.

>>389626268
Ramza

>>389626337
While the game is dated now, I still go back to play it every couple of years. When the game first came out, it was something my sister and I would play every weekend. Good memories may be the reason I loved it so much. Some people think its overrated though, so I don't want to over hype it for you.

>>389625930
It's an FF crossover arena fighting game. The previous ones had a big story but it doesn't seem like it will be necessary to know to understand this game, and it's more focused around the fighting anyway. That said you should play the others because they're very fun games and easy to emulate. Duodecim has all the story content of the first game and much more besides, though the first game doesn't make new players play the most complex characters first because of forced pandering so it might be a better intro in that regard, but as long as you take the time you need to learn things as you go, it shouldn't be difficult to learn at all.
>>389626120
He doesn't think he's Zack dammit.

>>389626541
He doesn't LITERALLY think he's Zack, dumbass. It's just his persona that he's taken on

>>389626576
Still a no, bro.

>>389625985
Whether he actually loves Aeris is up for (a pretty fierce) debate, but she dies long before he goes into the coma and while he has an understandable moment, he doesn't really stop for that long.

>>389626282
I'm sure both versions will be in the full game.

>>389626576
Still not Zack's persona stupidbutt. Said it before but we see bits of how Zack acts and it's not quite like how Cloud acts in disk 1.

>>389626576
Thanks

>>389626729
Maybe when j said persona wasn't quite the right word, but close. Recall about his memory with tifa and sephiroth at the manor? So yeah, not persona, but replaced Zack for himself.

So, this is a party-based game? Hadn't looked up anything about it until now, figured it'd be like the old Dissidia games with updated graphics/new characters but it turns uot it's completely different. Shame desu, but oh well, can't win them all i guess.

>>389627113
It's just 3v3. So if that means "party-based' then yeah I guess so.

>>389613168
nope. tried beta.. wasn't my thing.

>>389627205
You have to form a team with others right? That's what i meant.

>>389627480
If you are playing 3v3 or 2v2 then yes you would technically have to form a team assuming you don't want to play with randoms.

>>389613168
Hell no. The HUD is the most cancerous looking shit I've ever seen in a game, and I've heard this game has even LESS moves than the PSP games. (You can only equip 1 HP attack now, and you can't block or parry). Game looks like absolute shit.

>>389627774
You can definitely block.

>>389626962
His version of the Nibelheim incident has him in the place of Zack because it's the only way his fractured mind can reconcile all his messed up memories and the results of the experimentation giving him the iconic Mako eyes. As I mentioned, the way he acts in that flashback specifically is for the most part how Zack acted at the time, but is clearly pretty different from how Cloud is at that part in the game. It's not that he's trying to imitate Zack, it's that he's trying to act how he thinks he should be acting because he believes he was the Soldier 1st class who went to Nibelheim that day. His only frame of reference for Soldiers is Zack and Sephiroth so they influence how he acts a little bit but it's mainly based on how he assumes he should act, something he isn't too sure on either which is partly why there's so many different dialogue options you can choose that mostly go away later in the game.
>>389627113
It's 3v3 now, but the gameplay itself should be very familiar if you played the other Dissidias.

>>389627608
Hmmm yeah, i also watched a couple of beta vids, definitely not my kind of thing.

>>389627774
Misinformation ho! The hud has info that is all relevant and accessible but doesn't detract from your viewing space. Most characters have more brave moves than were even possible to equip in the PSP games with the addition of dash brave moves and almost every character having at least 7. Most characters equip one HP attack but one (Vaan) can equip two, and many others have HP attacks that change depending on multiple factors and another has a second HP attack as their Ex Skill. The block system is changed from a parry to a shield you hold that is broken if you block for too long.

>>389627885
>It's 3v3 now, but the gameplay itself should be very familiar if you played the other Dissidias.
It's not the gameplay itself that turned me off, it's that you have to play with others (too stressful for me, never found it fun).

>>389628475
There will be 1v1, 2v2 and 2v1 options, but besides that just chill out bro, it's only a game. The more you play the easier it'll get, and it's just random people anyway or you can play with people you know if it makes it easier.

>>389628389
>doesn't detract from your viewing space
Bahahaha yeah fucking right. This game has the most ugly, overextravagant, and poorly designed HUD in any videogame I've ever seen. It's a disasterous clusterfuck.

>>389628686
It doesn't if you actually, you know, play it. Half of it is transparent and it has several gaps in between, on top of it all being around the sides.

>>389628686
It must be tough living with such debilitating eyesight problems. I really feel for you anon.

>>389613168
No Gabranth no buy

>the betas done and over with and people are still pretending the beta was indicative of final release despite there only being one mode, no lobbies, and only the arcade launch characters available with relatively recent balance changes for some reason

I feel like this game would be absolutely perfect if they mixed the styles between Duodecim and NT and kept it 3v3 as it is now.
>Remove assists
>Keep the dash meter from NT but have the speed of movement and dodges from Duodecim
>Use the defensive options from Duodecim rather than the shield block thing in NT
>Keep the multiple HP attacks from Duodecim
>Leave in ex modes and ex bursts but make the bursts non cinematic obviously
>keep the rush rockpaperscissors shit out
>keep the rpgs mechanics out of multiplayer
And bam, there you go. Right now characters get stale way too fast using the same one HP attack the whole match and the loss of the ebb and flow of quickly dodging/blocking/parrying for 1 on 1 encounters is sad. And while EX moves are an ok replacement for Ex modes I ultimately feel the latter is better.

I really enjoyed the beta actually !

I'm probably going to get the PS4 and PC versions.

>>389629114
>PC versions.
I thought it was arcade/ps4 only?

>>389629232
It is and the arcade cabinets are literally PS4s. The sticks look like someone sawed a DualShock in half.

>>389629047
You think having more HP attacks would suddenly make characters less stale?

>>389629232
They said in a recent interview that they were considering a PC and Xbox versions as well after the PS4 release.

Forgot the name of the website for the source tho, it was some kind of German video game news site.

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Is it 60 FPS???

>>389629614
Must have been the same website that said Yakuza and Persona are definitely coming to PC.

You mentioned PC in your first post to incite console shitposting. Fuck off.

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>>389629114
I have to agree. The beta was good enough to convince me to get the game and I'll be playing it with a friend too.

Just hope they fix the stupid waiting problems in Matchmaking.

>>389629672
It is definitely 60fps.

>>389629459
I do. Your gameplan is usually heavily influenced by what kind of HP attack you have. Even if you had just one more it could open things up a bit. it wouldn't simply be
>Alright, gonna try and hit this guy into the wall for a surefire quick HP combo
or
>Alright, gonna try and nail this guy from farther away with a long range HP attack when he isn't paying attention
But both, making you more versatile in how you want to act offensively. This opens up even more when you consider there are HP attacks which are good for other things too, like AOEing or building up a lot of bravery mid-attack with a long animation. Just that little bit of extra versatility and customization would go a long way I feel.

>>389617570
>putting Wakka in a suit made of machina
>using machina to put Wakka in a suit made of machina
This goes against the teaching of Yevon brudda

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>>389613168
Not getting it. Will never get it or any other "platform exclusive". Companies who produce nothing but platform exclusives such as Sony and Nintendo represent the absolute most loathsome form of corporate arrogance. Both companies should be exterminated from this planet like the filthy disease they are.

>>389629047
>Keep the dash meter from NT but have the speed of movement and dodges from Duodecim
The dodges in Duodecim were pretty stupid and lasted too long, but both slowing the dashes and giving them a meter feels a bit pointless to me when they also took out Quickmove, which would be perfect in a game with dashing being more limited.
>Use the defensive options from Duodecim rather than the shield block thing in NT
As nice as the parry might feel to land, it's not really as usable or reliable as the shield, and it's a bit more polarizing in it's effect. Plus the shield works better for 3v3.
>Keep the multiple HP attacks from Duodecim
I wouldn't mind more HP attacks but honestly it works fine the way it is. Characters don't get stale at all since they have many other brave attacks that you'll generally be using more of, and the choice has much more impact, especially in regards to the team, though it doesn't tie you down as much as you make it sound.
>Leave in ex modes and ex bursts but make the bursts non cinematic obviously
Ex Skills, some HP attacks and summons have already done exactly this in an arguably better way than they were before.
As for that ebb and flow, it's still very much present if not even better during 1v1 fights, and blocking/parrying used to be the same thing.

>>389629701
Nope, it was an interview with the dev team. I don't speak German sadly so it's a bit difficult for me to find the source again. We were talking about it here a week ago.

I'm just excited that there's gonna be a PC version as well, just trying to spread the word.

>>389629747
I played on the last day and matchmaking was hugely improved from what it was before.
>>389630171
That interview amounted to a fairly noncommital answer of "we hear people are talking about it" like what most companies always say when they don't want to say anything. If more people get to play the game it would be nice, but as it is now there isn't going to be a PC version so saying there will be is just spreading misinformation.

>>389630130
Fuck off, slav

>>389630378
rude

I wonder when the next beta is.

>>389632734
Don't think they've mentioned that they're having one, but hopefully they actually do have another, and make it open as well.

>>389613168
They show me Gabranth/Tifa and I show them my wallet.

They've got everyone else I want already.

>>389630171
>game is literally running on PS4 Pros in arcade
>with Frankenstein dual shocks for controllers
>the girl singing the opening is signed with Aniplex aka Sony Music

Yep, totally coming to PC.

>>389616303
Dissidia always had Garland

>>389623473
Someone did though whether that was on Team Ninja or Square I don't know.

They justify it by saying that in this version of Dissidia he (and everyone else) has retained all their memories from their own world while they didn't in the other two games which I guess is why he's more like himself.

What were the best mods for Dissidia 012?

>>389624483
>How the fuck did you even make it this far?
Playing the FF games where none of my characters could fucking fly.

>>389635112
>summons death beams that annihilate the world
>levitate skills
>revives people from the death
>become avatars for godly summons
>jump dimensional rifts
>spells to warp time, cause blizzards, floods, flares, earthquakes, etc
>can cut buildings asunder
>dragoons have been able to run in the sky before
>that's not even a small quarter of everything done in an FF

If air dashing is to much for you I have no fucking clue how you managed to get through a single FF.

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>>389623585
He was really only particularly sad after Aerith died in the original game which is understandable.

After Advent Children they really ramped up that side of his personality even though it was justified there as well with him being afflicted with a disease that has no cure and an eventual 100% fatality rate.

Once he's cured of his super aids he has a smug look on his face before whooping some Sephiroth OC ass.

Yet after that movie every time he appeared somewhere else like Kingdom Hearts or Dissidia that is his default personality despite there being no reason for it.

>>389613168
It looks a great deal worse than Duodecim. Convince me otherwise.

>>389635413
Duodecim has the shittiest no fun allowed balance but your nostalgia lets you forget everything bad about the game.

>>389613828
Im not into getting raped by autistic children

>>389635465
Like what? Because NT has less variety in each character, forces 3v3 horseshit, and has a grotesque HUD. Duodecim was great. Easy on the eyes, 1v1 and manageable, variety of HP and Brave attacks, assists balanced with EX and visa versa.

>>389635803
im glad assists are gone, there were only 2 or 3 worth using

>>389635803
So you were an ExDeath player. Got it.

>>389623878
That's really just your opinion

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>>389632285

Its not on Vita, so no. Dissidia was so fucking great because I could play it while commuting, in bed, while watching tv or wherever the fuck I want. got over 500 hours out of Dissidia Duodecim due to that. Pretty sure I wont even get half of this playtime if Im locked to a shitty home console

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So I've seen a gameplay video and it's a fucking mess. I have no idea what goes on half of the time. Never played a dissidia game. Is the 'fighting' mechanic fun?

>>389613168
Probably, yeah. I had a lot of fun with the beta.

>>389637894
You have no idea what's going on in a game you've never played? That's pretty surprising. Yes the fighting is fun but it's not for everyone.

On PC, yes.

>>389640313
NEVER EVER

>>389640313
haha

>>389613168
if it didn't have vaan as the 12 character i might

>>389643186
Who would you want instead?

>>389636284
Nope. Terra and Bartz, with Gabranth, Kefka, and Firion on the side.

>>389643778
Vayne Solidor

>>389626123
Of fucking course he's right

This game is doa. I can feel it.

>>389646657
no you are wrong this is nothing like dead or alive

>>389647619
It's 3D.

>>389634920
just like helldivers right?