This is not Metal Gear. What the fuck happened?

>>389598112
Check out the Silent Hill thing kojimbo made, it explains everything

Konami failed to manage Kojima because it is like herding cats

>>389598112
Kojima decided to make grinding the foundation of his games starting from PW onwards

>>389598112
Define what makes Metal Gear, Metal Gear for all of us then.

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Does anyone think the missing cutscenes were just part of the ruse for MGSV's release or do you think they were actually cut-scenes from the game?(I made a pun)

>>389598405
well first of all, the story in mgs5 is non-existent.

mgs games are very well known for being very narrative focused.

>>389599023
>Everyone mocks your game for being a movie while your company board is actively trying to can you.
I'm shocked he switched it up, honestly.

The best part is when a mentally ill person(tranny) named Caramel tried to say "JUST PART OF THE RUZE GUIZ SOMETHING BIG IS GONNA HAPPEN WITH MGSV!"

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>people complain about MGS4 having too many cut scenes
>people complain about MGSV having too much gameplay and not enough cut scenes

MGSV is unironically one of my favourite games, I was at maximum hype the whole way through

>>389599023
>mgs games are very well known for being very narrative focused.

They are also well known for fucking over player expectations and making fanboys mad for 10 years until they come their senses and realise it was actually genius.

Every single fucking game that happens. You'd think people would learn their lesson and hold back on criticising it for fear of looking like a pleb in 10 years. But no. They all make the same mistake.

>>389599425
It's fun but the E3 demos only showed like 4-5 of the really fun areas. Most of the game are boring little shitty guard posts with nothing of much interest.

Even if it didn't have a good story I wouldn't have cared so much if they had more areas like the mansion and some of the huge soviet bases in Afghanistan, also forcing you to take long routes just because you can't climb any sort of surface is really shitty of them to do.

>>389599636
>implying anyone only ever did that for MGS2
>implying you're not trying to group the whole series together to defend your shitty argument.

MGS2 was made bad on purpose. MGSV was not. It was made bad because of incompetence and jewish companies.

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>>389598112
>Imgur filename

>>389599424

>people complain about MGSV having too much (repetitve) gameplay and not enough cut scenes

fix'd

also why not both

>>389599743

You're right, I just love to argue.

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Boss is sad! Say something nice to cheer him up!

>>389599424
>it has to be one extreme or the other

stop being such a fucking pleb

>>389598405
being kino and strong focus on story and narrative... there was no need to jump on the open world big map train.... just smaller levels with different themes but still with some kind of choice your own way in = perfect mgs

>>389601468
>there was no need to jump on the open world big map train

Well if you like linear narrative driven kojima games you have like 10 others to play. Don't complain when an artist tries something new.

>>389598112
The worst part of MGSV is that the gameplay wasn't even good. I can handle a shitty story even in an MGS game, I mean look at PW. MGSV's gameplay was disgustingly easy and there was no variety.

>>389602613
You're really not getting the point. It's a band wagon and someone who makes as good as Kojima should have seen how shitty and shallow most open world games are. Didn't he say he wanted to make MGSV like Deus Ex? he even was saying that GTAV is better than MGSV.

>>389598112
Fuck you you fucking autist. Metal Gear is whatever Kojima dreams it to be. MGS5 was amazing. Fuck you

>>389603141
if you turn off all the marking systems and handicaps in place it's actually pretty hard. Honestly the hardest MGSV outside of 2.


in terms of challenge alone MGSV is pretty hard, or rather it would have been with an actual health bar but it's still pretty hard.

>>389599424
okay you're obviously just memeing and don't know what you're talking about because you probably haven't played any of these

>>389602613
I dont complain about trying something new.... it simply missed something... sacrificing something important for the open world hype...

maybe there are already 10 linear narrative driven kojima games... but i play kojima games because i exactly want this... there are already thousands of open world games and there are many more to come and most of them fail miserably...
expandables is a good example for this... you watch these movies because you want to see those 80s action heros in an rated R movie and not like expandables 3 in an pg movie, which failed massive

>>389603270
I did and cqc'd my way through most of the game with no issues. If you found MGSV hard I think you might have downs.

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>>389598112
Kojima released for the first time something playable and unironically enjoyable.
What the problem? MGSV it's not boring as every MGS?

>>389604967
you clearly have mental issues

>>389599636
>Every single fucking game that happens.
People only delude themselves into thinking MGS2 is "deep" or a "masterpiece." It's a step down from MGS1 in many ways, with a pretentious story to make you think the shitty gameplay decisions were there on purpose.

>>389599424
For me personally, the problem with MGSV is not the amount of story, but in the way it's presented. Like the story literally stops dead in it's tracks and leaves several threads dangling. Most egregious example being the Eli plot and the stolen Metal Gear thing.

Another problem is the game is fucking empty. Huge maps, sure, but what's in them? A handful of guard zones with fucking nothing in between.

MGSV felt like a half finished game through and through. It's so weird to play, and I could never get into it. Like what's the point? It's so empty and bland.

>>389601468

Kino. Stopped reading right there

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Naked > Venom.

The warning signs were already there in 4 and Peace Walker. Kojima is a hack.

>>389598112
>What the fuck happened?
He tried to make more Metal Gears after 4.

>>389606462

Should have stopped at 3

>>389598405
Not exactly what you want but in most MGS games there are references and similarities to past story and gameplay elements, part of MGS2 story is all about this, but take something like the torture sequence its in every other main MGS but not V, there aren't a whole lot of those subtle recreations, although I feel GZ had a few more than TPP did.

Wow, I've randomly decided to visit /v/ for the first time in a long time and my shitty picture is the op pic. Thanks, I guess.

MGS stopped being good after one of the original writers left after 3(forgot his name it's some complicatred gook name) not even saying Kojima is that bad of a writer however most most of the series has suffered for it(I did like PW's story a lot though even if it had the worst gameplay in the series; even worse than V.

>>389606758
2 ended in a cliffhanger. It needed a sequel.

>>389606758
This 4 was dogshit and I even boughta ps3 for 4. Kojima should of moved on to something else even Portable Ops is better than Peace Walker.

>>389606910
nice blog kiddo

Hated it in 2015 like everyone else. Went back to it last month and enjoyed myself a ton, did a full 100-hour, near 100% playthrough.

Enjoyed the tight controls, the way the AI takes countermeasures to your tactics, enjoyed getting good ranks, enjoyed building my group and developing better items, enjoyed messing with said items in the side-ops for hours on end. Even enjoyed the cinematography and the story because I stopped being salty trying reconcile it with the rest of the canon and my own expectations.

It's actually a really good, albeit flawed and unfinished game. You just have to stop WANTING to dislike it.

Also this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axfOJtmjRtY

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I just needed mission 51 to be complete.

>>389606293
But Venom is way cuter, and actually has a sense of thought.

What are you, Ocelot?

>>389607138

It probably needed one. But the one we got wasn't worth it

>>389607404

I unironically enjoyed MGSV but it wasn't in league with 1-3

Most of the problem came down to overused balloon mechanic.

>>389607270
Thanks.

>>389599424
TPP is literally unfinished, you fucking meme-guzzling faggot.

>>389608178
How about the shitty open world, horrible narrative for a series that focuses on narrative, and the little to no boss battles?

>>389598112
I liked it

I just wish there were some actual missions instead of go to this outpost and extract or kill some autist, it was fun but overall it was a less memorable experience than MGS3 for example

The trank gun is the worse addition this series ever had if they make a new MG it needs to remove it.

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>>389598405
Ever since MGS every one of them have had a huge emphasis on plot and politics. All of them. Even fucking Metal Gear AC!D was plot heavy, and that was a fucking card game. I think it may actually be a toss up between this game and Spore for the most disappointing thing I have ever seen happen in gaming. Such good gameplay wasted on such a turd of a plot, Jesus Christ.

>>389598405
How about interesting characters for one

>>389608878
MGSV is a deconstruction of the traditional video game narrative.

>>389609143
That still doesn't make it terrible.

>>389609239
You'll come around in time, just like with MGS2.

>>389608878

Yeah that was shit but there was still plenty of fun to be had. You're talking at bes a 7/10 game that come from a series getting 9.5-10/10 though. Completely understandable the rage generated

>>389609395

I have to say I remember it taking me round about till getting the high frequency sword to get over the butthurt I had about having to play gayden

>>389603242
>MGS5
MGSV will never be MGS5. It will always be another shitty prequel that ruins what 3 did, just like PO, just like PW.
The V in MGSV stands for Venom, it's why the phrase V Has Come To is used as well. If it was MGS5, he would've called it MGS5.
Also, just because that's what Kojima wanted it to be, doesn't mean it's good. I fucking loved MGS1-4, I even loved shit like TTS and Ac!d. But, that's because they're non-canon side stories that don't affect anything, unlike the prequels following 3.