Just like his heart once healed to sail the seas again, will

nope

not happening

nah

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I still have hope, even if nintendo doesn't make a new PM, some fans are trying despite the fear of being C&D
I wonder if that anon that posted in the dev threads made any progress

Our hearts have been dead for years. Everyone on this accursed site is dead inside.

no way

>>389570798
The part of the paper Mario fan base that obsesses over TTYD is the equivalent of sonic's deviant art OC fanbase. I'm glad nintendo dodged a bullet by changing things up and dropping the focus on the OCs

>>389572706

Yeah it wasn't the OC that made Paper Mario good and if anything had the series stayed the same and we were onto the 5th Goomba partner even the TTYD lovers would be bored

>>389572706
>>389572945
Please fuck off Cody

>>389572945
>it wasn't the OC that made Paper Mario good
The characters were the best part of the PM series. Not just parners, but the bosses and the NPCs all having colorful personalities was what made the story of PM and TTYD so great. SPM only has a handful of interesting characters (most of the bosses, tippi, luigi, and bowser) but is lacking in interesting NPCs and you rarely spend time in Flip/Flopside actually talking to the townspeople like you do with the various personalities in Toad Town and Rogueport. NPC interactions with original characters carry the most favorite chapters in both of the original PMs -- glitz pit isn't fun for the 20-something forced fights or the fetchquest to get and hatch yoshi egg, its fun for the wide array of interesting OCs introduced in the chapter, from your friends in the lower rankings to Grubba and his mysterious secretary.

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Remember the first time you saw those pictures and wanted to buy a 3DS?
Unfortunately I do

>>389573675

Fuck off Arlo

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>>389574769

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>>389572167
NO WAY, FAGIO

>>389575817
yo is that a chain chomp partner though

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>>389576061
Was, miyamoto didn't like the first version of sticker star so he asked tanabe to get rid of OCs and partners and focus only on stickers

>>389573970
Autism

>>389574769
>>389575817
>>389576642

I want to strangle Shiggy's ancient neck with my own bare hands.

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>>389577776
The worst part is that they took feedback only from japan, which hated super's story, so they got rid of all story in future games despite anyone out of japan liking SPM exactly for the story

>>389578701
2 bombs really weren't enough

>>389577776

>Still blaming Shiggy

All he asked was to not make a carbon copy of TTYD and use the Mario world

Why do you blame him for everything

We couldve had a decent Paper Mario game in the Mario world if Tanabe wasnt a piece of fucking shit who wanted to change everything and mistook "Mario World" for "Toads Only"

>>389572706
>The part of the paper Mario fan base that obsesses over TTYD
So, all of the Paper Mario fanbase?

>>389576642

That's not what happened at all

>This looks like TTYD, try doing something else

>Lets keep it in the Mario World okay?

>He didnt say remove partners
>He didnt say focus on stickers
>He didnt say remove all gameplay elements
>He didnt say the only creatures in the mario world was toads

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>>389580887
If he hadn't complained we could have gotten a new TTYD like game
Tanabe is an idiot, and intelligent system still does have ideas as shown in color splash's concept art
Remember tanabe is the one that tried to force tingle because of that "love and hate" bullshit

>>389581828

It was more of a suggestion, that they couldve rejected, but of course Tanabe apparently wanted these changes

They shouldve kept the rock paper scissors duplighost but fuck

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C'mon /v/, hit me with your best partner ideas
hard mode: think of an useful field skill

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>>389583696
Here are some more stuff from past failed /v/ fangame attempts

>>389570798

Eventually, im pretty sure they got the message that nobody wants their current system

I honestly wouldve settled with a basic Mario World RPG if it was still proper paper mario

It's a shame too because Color Splash had that good writing

>>389578701
>>389580690
>Despite anyone out of japan liking SPM exactly for the story

Those Japanese players were right. It had a dogshit story that made absolutely no sense if you even spent 1 minute thinking about it.

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>>389570798
If mainline Mario is going back to open levels with exploration and TWO new Metroids are being made, then surely that means they're starting to listen, right?

>>389581828
>intelligent system still does have ideas as shown in color splash's concept art

Are good ideas just character designs now? Color Splash showcased a lot of creativity in its scenarios, writing and level mechanics.

>They shouldve kept the rock paper scissors duplighost but fuck

Look at the feet, it was always meant to be a Toad.

>>389570798
It feels like they see Paper Mario as a game about Mario in a world made of paper. The first three games had a few visual gags but it didn't have everything focus around paper gimmicks.

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>>389584981
Then please, by all means take that single minute to elaborate on why it was dogshit.

Lets be honest here

The series and everything else on IS plate was doomed after Fire Emblem Awakening succeeded and became their full time job now

>>389585593
its a balance thing first game is mario in a paper world. second game is mario in a paper world....with some paper mecanics as a curse.
third game a later.......ITS PAPER YA KNOW LOOOOOLZZZ! japanese devellopers often share 2 traits: they dont do ''show dont tell'' and they prefer visual gags over well done writing.
this is one of the main issue with sticker star. its not about the story, its about a scissor sticker that can cut things in the environnement because lol, papercraft.

the balance finaly shifted too far after thousand years door.

i pray for a return to form.

>>389576765
>getting immersed into a story is now autism
Movies and books are now autism too I guess.

>>389586286

There's literally nothing wrong with the paper aspect

We can have a game with the writing of TTYD and the visuals of Color Splash

>>389586286
Same here. I don't think that'll happen though - "It's paper!" was literally the entire gimmick of Paper Jam.

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>>389586070

Gladly.

>Count Bleck supposedly loved the universe yet wants to destroy it because he though his fiance was dead. He suddenly shifts to being a good guy and never learns his lesson he just gets what he wanted and decides to be good.
>Dimentio takes over the main role of villain but despite being even more evil than Bleck they don't even explain why he is evil. Dimentio is basically Kefka or the Joker just with no reason behind being psychotic.
>Blecks other henchmen also suddenly become good at the end of the game and create the world Bleck wanted even though Mimi in particular enslaved people, revelled in the destruction of the Sammer Kingdom and Nastasia was fine mind controlling people.
>Blumier and Timpani's backstory isn't actually Romeo and Juliet inspired it actually follows Terra's backstory from FF6 with minor alterations.
>Everything Carson says is literal fanfiction tier BS especially the Pixl Queen stories.
>Bowser was flanderised into a punching bag.

Why do you think its any good?

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>>389585414
They went super lazy with the designs though
They could have at least given the professor glasses or a lab coat to make him different from all the other copy pasted toads, but the only toad that was different was the pirate and that;s because he wore a hat. If it was done in 64 or TTYD, he would have a beard at least
The professor, mountain sage and any other yellow toads are literally the same

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>>389586286
>>389585593

Yeah but the latter 2 of the first three games basically didn't give a shit about building a world, they just slapped 7 random locations together. I think one advantage they have now is that since they are trying to make a Paper World they were very meticulous about the world design in Color Splash.

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>>389588372
I disliked that rogueport wasn't connected completely with the surrounding areas besides pipes/train/blimp, but CS/SS are still kinda segregated too because of the way levels are separated
One of the things 64 has on top of all the other games is that most of it's areas you can walk to

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>>389587413
>Count Bleck supposedly loved the universe yet wants to destroy it because he though his fiance was dead. He suddenly shifts to being a good guy and never learns his lesson he just gets what he wanted and decides to be good.
Blumier went nutters because of him feeling tremendous loss and despair, killing his father sent him even further over the edge coupled with reading the Dark Prognosticus.
Probably also because he wanted revenge on the world for taking her away from him at that point.

>Dimentio takes over the main role of villain but despite being even more evil than Bleck they don't even explain why he is evil. Dimentio is basically Kefka or the Joker just with no reason behind being psychotic.
Dimentio was a entertaining character, but not explored nearly enough for his motivation other than the usual "I want to reshape the world to be fit for me and only meeee" cliché.

>Blecks other henchmen also suddenly become good at the end of the game and create the world Bleck wanted even though Mimi in particular enslaved people, revelled in the destruction of the Sammer Kingdom and Nastasia was fine mind controlling people.
Bleck's henchmen were not all that evil to begin with, most of them owed their lives to him for one reason or another and are eternally loyal & grateful for it, hence why upon seeing him abandon the whole world destruction thing at the end they casually settle down.
Mimi was probably just a bedroom sadist without an outlet, attention starved too judging from her behavior.

>Everything Carson says is literal fanfiction tier BS especially the Pixl Queen stories.
It was interesting though, the Pixls were shit partners and even more two dimensional than the game outside of 3D mode.
It should've been a extra chapter after the main story.

>Bowser was flanderised into a punching bag.
That was pretty bad, at least even in TTYD he had his great final battle moment.

I liked the story, but still prefer TTYD as a whole.

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>>389584735

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>>389586992
They could at least have made a lot more even with only toads, the game's main issue is padding and the excessive ammount of toad fetch quests

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>>389583696
>>389584735
>>389589951
>All these shygals
So this is the creativity of the paper mario fanbase?

>>389589270
>Blumier went nutters because of him feeling tremendous loss and despair, killing his father sent him even further over the edge coupled with reading the Dark Prognosticus.

Yeah but I've replayed it and there's a part where Nastasia claimed he loved the universe more than anyone. I just think there's a huge disparity between certain parts of the writing and others. Like If the villains were really good all along how come something that shows the gravitas of their actions like the Sammer Kingdoms destruction isn't something that they reflect on or cause any of them to have second thoughts?

>Mimi was probably just a bedroom sadist without an outlet, attention starved too judging from her behavior.

She literally does not do a single good thing from when she's introduced to when she becomes good. And her reasoning for joining Bleck is because she wanted a world with a pool full of rubies and lifeguards.

I just don't think the story was told very well because the villains essentially act pure evil until they need to be good in which scenario they suddenly completley flip flop, hell they don't even aplogise if I remember correctly the game just treats them as if they're good guys.

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>>389590840
it's not like it hasn't happened in an official game

>>389591538
those are gay ass sniffits, dude

>>389587413
>it actually follows Terra's backstory from FF6 with minor alterations.
Wait what? It's been a while since I played ff6, but I don't remember her having a romantic interest.

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>>389591018
You're on point with a lot of these things, really.
The game did near the end feel incredibly rushed, and not because of the giant gaping death hole.
They did a bad job tying up the character development into a neat bow and sadly called it a day, but that doesn't take away from the established story and themes, which are still very much enjoyable and in tone with earlier Paper Mario games.

This was a good talk, though.
Not many times you can have a proper discussion on Paper Mario anymore these days.

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>>389583696

>>389590840
here is one with a snift instead

>>389592317
Not Terra, but her mom and dad. She ended up in the esper world where humans were forbidden and ended up falling in love with an esper and having Terra. Which is why she's born with natural talent for magic.

>>389580887
It's more than modern Intelligent Systems is full of fucking idiots who think they're aiming at what will make the most money without considering long term repercussions. Look at Fire Emblem.

>>389583696
Chargin Chuck who is terrible at sports and damages by failing in style. Throws you across gaps, kicks you at angles into enemies like Charlie Brown, can run across the air for 3 seconds, or headbutt through cracked walls and certain blocks.

>>389577776
I see there is still some confusion, while Shiggy was a factor there is more to it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOk2QxDIW6c

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>>389583696

>>389571993

>some fans are trying despite the fear of being C&D

Why don't people just go under the radar? It's not hard to update people on progress without being tracked.

>>389574769
I remember when a bunch of people (somehow) thought that it would just be a remake of paper mario 64

In hindsight, that would've been better

>>389574769
>tfw no chomp partner

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>>389583696
>>389584735
>>389589951
>>389592998
>>389594318
These are all the /v/ PM projects I have seen, most never left conceptual stage. There was one that had one map with a pipe (that I think Questy was working on), and this last one an anon on /agdg/ was working on, but he disappered recently

>>389570798
Everybody's favorite party member always seems to be either Goombella, Vivian, or Bobbery

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>>389595939
Here is a webm of the long corridor build that never went past this, unfortunately the dev never uploaded the source code

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>>389596664
It'll get DMCA'd when it becomes even remotely popular, which it will if it ever becomes close to playable

Paper Bugs is where it's at

>>389595939
>>389596664
>>389597043
There's also the problem of scale.
Shit like that takes years to do and you won't get a dime from it if you want to avoid DMCAs.
It'd only happen if a very well off anon were behind it that could devote years to such a project. Most anons making games are probably poor fucks that really can't give that much time.

Paper Bugs is getting by cause they can actually make a profit and the bug thing lets them reign in some scale issues rather than having to do some crazy 8 chapter multi-world thing.

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>>389595939
Here is one from the anon from /agdg/, this is an old webm

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>>389598091
One of the latest webms he showed before he disappeared

>>389598091
Would he really shittalk his own species?

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>>389598654
This was one of the last ones he posted in the /agdg/ threads.
He's been gone for several months, but he also disappeared for like 6 months before, so no idea if he's gonna keep doing it or not.

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>>389583696
A Dino-Torch that acts like Scrappy Doo

>>389599862
>comedy relief that got way out of hand
>in my BING BING WAHOO game
Never

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>>389596127
They're the ones with the most fleshed out personalities so it only makes sense

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>>389596127
Well, if we're talking about the whole franchise, my favorite is Bow.

>>389598926
Goomba are true scum so its a natural part of their lives

>>389597480
There is no need for it to be 8 chapters, there could be 4 or less so the scope can be reduced.
But i get that it is a lot of work for most people that barely have any game making experience, free time or have fear of having their work DMCA'd

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>>389601396
All boo girls are great

>>389570798
Nope

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>>389603836
>>389601396
how did they get away with this?

>>389586226
Wish they had let FE die instead of filling it up with waifus, maybe then PM would still be good

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>>389601396

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>>389604628

>>389607849
Bunny ears are objectively better catfags need to die.

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>>389609005
I like both of them

>>389609005
Normally I'd agree with you, but in this particular case I think the cat ears make for a better sprite. The bunny ears just look a little too wide for my taste. If they were thinner, ended at a point, and had a slight bend in the middle ala >>389604628 or >>389609774 then they'd be much better.