Wich Fallout game is the best /v/ ?

>>389558236
1 or 2

>>389558236
they are all shit

tactics

>>389558236
3, everything else is hot garbage.

I liked 4. Fuck me, right?

>>389558236
1, 2, and NV are the only games in the series worth playing.

>>389558236
First one of course.

>>389558379
You are forgiven if you can justify why

>>389558412
Why is New Vegas the best?

>>389558445
The atmosphere honestly had me hooked from the beginning. I love the gun customization and leveling system. Of course it's not perfect, the dialogue sucks ass and the main story didn't impress me much. But the open world has never left me feeling bored.

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>>389558236
2 and New Vegas are the ones I enjoy the most. New Vegas simply for the character writing and story direction.
3 felt too aimless and lacked the little gems of character writing that Black Isle contributed

>>389558297
Well aren't you a special snowflake

>>389558729
I can respect that. you are hereby forgiven

nv has better lore, shooting, story, and dlcs, and is the best modern representation of the fallout universe

3 has better exploration, the side dungeons are occasionally amazing, compared to NV side dungeons being worse than oblivion, and far more interesting things you can discover in the open

4 is skyrim tier, the worst of both, terrible story, lore, setting, exploration, etc, but the shooting is better, sort of

1+2 are archaic isometric games, completely great if you played them in the 1980s, not something anyone would willingly do now

beware new vegas fags who simply can't let this go, and refuse to accept that different people enjoy different things

>>389558427
What about New Vegas?

>>389559030
What are you biggest complaints with it?

>>389558236

I have f1 gog sitting around but never played it really, gvie me a semi decent class that utilizes assault rifles or hunting rifles and finds it way around wasteland without feeling gimped in one way or another.

NV is nearly a perfect game. If only the shooting wasn't so weightless and stilted.

>>389559290
So... not perfect then?

>>389559347
That's what he said, thanks captain obvious

>>389559516
Didn't see "nearly". I'm retarded.

>>389559158
Story, dialog, pacing (Power armor at the beginning was too game breaking), very little to do, so few weapons. legendaries ranging from useless to game breaking
Plot is by far my biggest complaint but i'm too tired to type two posts explaining why, you'll have to forgive me

Every one except the dogshit that was 2

>>389558729
Muh atmosphere isn't an argument.

>>389559723
That's perfectly valid. I pretty much never used power armor except for big events or going into the glowing sea. And yeah I didn't care much about the main plot. I kinda wish it was more basic and just about a guy waking up in a nuclear wasteland.

>>389559723
useless to game breaking with no in between*

>>389559860
What's so special about 2?

>>389559937
>dude pop culture references lmao
If reddit existed in the 90's they'd eat that shit up.

>>389559079
>completely great if you played them in the 1980s
so they are not completely great? no one has ever done that

>>389559237
answer me

>>389560106
they'd probably get pissy about making fun of scientology

>>389558236
New Vegas. The game can be enjoyed even vanilla, can't say the same about 3 or 4 and I've only played 2 from the classic series though I liked that a lot as well.

>>389558236
I like 2 the most but I wouldn't call any of them the best. They all have good points and bad ones.

>>389558236
fallout of nevada. it's not an official title but a russian made total conversion of fallout 2.

fallout 2
new vegas
fallout 1
fallout 3
fallout 4


in that order

>>389559237
>gvie me a semi decent class that utilizes assault rifles or hunting rifles
have "Guns" as one of your tag skills
there you go
if you want to help combat a bit have high AGI, and a decent PER and STR so that your accuracy isn't shit with those guns

>>389559079
>completely great if you played them in the 1980s
They're as great today as they've ever been. The only thing about them that feels archaic is their clunky inventory and glacial combat.

>>389559902
"I pretty much never used power armor except for big events or going into the glowing sea."
Funny, I didn't know the power armour protected against radiation at first, so I went in to the Glowing Sea in just a hazmat suit (can't equip armour over it) and it was a really good experience I still remember due to the world design and how difficult the combat was. Annoying that everything besides the open world/shooting/customization is utter garbage though.

>>389563901

I just want a honest build dude. per for example seem to be more of a sniper type class following fonlines logic so points there seem wasted when maxing endurance,agil,4 int, 5 luck and 1 charisma. what are perks i should prob avoid something noob trappish

>>389564351
you don't really need a build. classic Fallouts are pretty well balanced in that it's hard to make an awful build (though having any SPECIAL stats apart from CHA very low will fuck you). there's no need to min/max. just keep in mind that action parts are everything, PER helps fighting at longer ranges and not meeting the STR requirement will result in heavy accuracy penalties (not too important later on in the game as Power Armour will give +3 STR). honestly, just make your own build and play the game, you'll be fine (save often though, you can always get fucked over somehow).

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Fallout 4, no contest..

>>389559237
10 luck
10 charisma
nothing else matters

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>>389558236
Skyrim was a good edition IMO- it took all the busted mechanics from New Vegas and game them purpose.

>B-but Skyrim is not a Fallout game!

In what way is it not? Thematically? Its like saying Final Fantasy or COD games are different franchises because they have different items and settings.

New Vegas- pride of the Fallout collection is LITERALLY Skyrim.

>failed execution introducing basically benign antagonist
>intro in small hamlet where you can learn to craft and befriend a frail, ranged follower
>travel to new town beset by over-arching threat to the land
>travel to the capital to find it basically empty but talked-up by everyone in the nation for some reason
>muh romans
>muh unified peoples of relative intergrity (pick one)
>blunder through quests with questionable indications of actual player agency as you level up against scaled enemies which diminish the sensation of leveling to virtually nothing
>finish the game in a dissapointing mini-map where you overpower the main boss
>pretend that the crafting, decision-making and exploring were all fun when you really know that the core gameplay is really an incredibly-repetitive grind which- despite the variety of weapons available, is basically an avalance of totally unnecessary loot.

>>389565891
gee willickers, you sound like a retard :^)

>>389565589

thanks anon. I didnt want to waste time rerolling

>>389563991
Combat really is awfully the worst shit I ever had to play with
Others mechanics are great, world is cool, but don't understand why some retards are still saying dialogues are actually intelligents or deep
This game is mediocre

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>we will never get a perfect mix of F4 action gameplay and New Vegas RPG elements

Why are we here? Just to suffer?

>>389566730
>we will never get a perfect mix of F4 action gameplay
good. F4 combat is (no meme) worse than 3 or New Vegas

>>389566342
I don't think I've ever seen someone say the dialogue in these games is deep. They've got strong thematic cores that are handled well, so you might call that, and by extension the dialogue, intelligent, but it's not really deep and I don't think many believe it is. People like it because it's got an immersive world with great roleplaying, a different and interesting take on the post-apocalypse setting, a lot of freedom for the player and it does a good job of handling its fun and silly side alongside its dark and oppressive atmosphere. That's why I like it anyway, though F2 doesn't handle that last point as well due to the overabundance of humor, but I forgive it because it handles the developing post-apocalypse setting extremely well.

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>>389558236
3 and 4, obviously. Make sure you buy Fallout 4 with Season Pass for the full experience!

I don't know I can't talk about FO1 and 2 because I'm born to late. (1995).
I liked FO4 and NV (I'm still playing both because mods).
Also my first FO was FO3 but I never liked maybe because I tried the PS3 version and now I can't play that old piece of shit.

>>389566079
But is he wrong?

>>389567515
Yep.

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>>389559079
>New Vegas
>better shooting
>better story
>better lore

>>389558236
Fallout 2.

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>>389567171
You're an idiot if you even think for a second that new vegas/3 combat was better than 4.

>>389567947
Correct.

>>389562194
>the game can be enjoyed vanilla
No it can't

>>389568365
Yes it can

>>389568324
Had worse shooting than 4 and worse lore and story telling than 2 and 1. At least 3 had better exploration and side quests as stated above

>>389568531
Your reading comprehension is awful anon, stay in school.

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Why the fuck did the NCR hire the Mojave Express to deliver the detonator for silos in the Divide to the Divide?

>>389568418
Nope, it's one of the more painfully boring and buggy entries in the series.

>>389563671
Truth.

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>>389568219
actually, you're an idiot

>>389568617
Your fault for using words like "better" without specifying what exactly you're comparing it to. That just implies you're comparing it to the whole series. That's bad writing on your part which is probably why you like NV lol

>>389568887
Not him but both games combat play like really shitty first person shooters so having FPS mechanics that actually feel decent to play is in fact a good thing.

>>389568903
I'm not that anon, anon. Stay in school, seems you really need it the help.

>>389558236
either 1, 2, or New Vegas

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>>389565891

>>389558673
>choices that matter, at least more than the Bethesda games
>NPCs that feel like people and not literal robots
>jammin' aesthetic
>all factions have a reason to exist and not exist
>weapon scaling isn't literally shit like 3
Didn't enjoy it quite as much as the first two but still really fun.

>>389565891
where did you get this juicy pasta from my man? my first guess is gonna be either reddit or youtube.

>>389569094
Then what's all this reading comprehension nonsense, other than bait and an ego booster for you?

>>389568667
Wrong.

>>389569480
I saw an anon who had terrible reading comprehension and tried to step in and help out. Altruism and all that.

>>389558236
Playing New Vegas Very Hard/Hardcore Melee/Unarmed Only Right now.
how bad i'm fucked?

https://youtu.be/XMgaQfv2Xo8

>>389558236
Unironically 4

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>>389558379
Great taste anon, look forward to some free kreation klub kredits.

>>389569701
You are literally god as long as you can reach your enemies.

>>389569442
>choices that matter
>at least more than Bethesda games
Funny how you added that last part
>NPCs that feel like people rather than robots
I don't think there's ever been a truly human character in any of the 3d fallout games that didn't feel like scripted shit, and New Vegas is just as bad.
>jammin' aesthetic
Cringe. Literally muh atmosphere. Plus totally wrong because 3 and 4 had much better aesthetics, one of the things Bethesda can actually excel at.
>All the factions had a reason being there
All the factions in 3 and 4 had a reason? Besides more than half the factions in NV are retarded or filler.
>weapon scaling that isn't shit like 3
It's literally just as bad.

>>389558236
I have played every single one.
Fallout 2~New Vegas>Fallout 1>Fallout 4>>Fallout 3
I'd say I personally like New Vegas a tiny bit better than 2.
I haven't played much Fallout 1, so my ranking of it is not entirely accurate. From what I gather it's more or less Fallout 2 with less content.
I've still had a lot fun playing both Fallout 3 and 4.

>>389569698
Well explain what's wrong with the reading comprehension.

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>>389563671

YOU SHUT YOUR FUCKING MOUTH YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT FUCK YOU FUC̣̮͢K͕̥̘ ̶̗͔̪̤̼̰͓Y͡O̤̝̩̙͞U͉̦̜͠ ͚̹̙̰F̣̹͞U̞̻͍̻̟͠ͅC̶̪̟̠͔͓͔̖K̞͙͙͕̗ͅ ͕͚ͅFU̱͔͚͙C̜͚K̸͚̫ ̴̞̫̗F̤̣̬̣̮U͢C͓̻͔̯̼K̺̘̝̟͖̰̫ ̯̤ͅF͡U͇̫̘̼̝C̩̘̪͕̤͔̭K͖̻̙ FU̠̼̠̰̦͎C̞͍͙̜̖K͖̼ͅ ͈̱͎͎͇F̢̟̫U̮͙̹C͕͙Ḵ͕̕ ̴͇͖̻͓̻̦B̦̪͕͞U͎̞͓̪̙ͅY̧̼̹̻ ̫̠̩͉͍M͇̜̘Y̴̻̠ ̘̟̰͘F̪͕̝͔̖͙̤U͎̟̬C̙̥͇̪̥̘K̤͇̥̩I͉̭̼͓̻̟NG̺̺͈ ̧̮̝GAM̦̫̘̰͔̤E̹͜S̪̰ A̦͇̞͙̙̪A̝̳͓̤͙̭̠̕A̞̼͓̗̜À͈̰̟̥̼͇A͔̩̫̬̝A̻̯͞A̶͙͙A̖͇͇A͔̣̦̗͍͎̪H̥̼͍̱̼͚̤H̳̻̤̯̻̜͍H͔̞̣̰͙H͚̜͈̦H͕H̰͈̣̤͕̫̣Ḥ͟H̹̞̜̝̦̖̟H͓͉̺̮̹̭͘ͅH̞H͇̪͉͖̯HH̼̫͉̭̟H̬̼̖̯͠H̩̯̀H͇̤̞̤͕̟̟HH̱͉̼̝H̟̟͓͖

All I want in this world is a remake of Fallout 2, but with FNV engine, so it plays first person, but still has the amazing writing, and exploration

3. You can tell its the best by how many people retroactively hate it

>>389570342
>retroactively
Ah, to be young again.

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>>389570271

>>389558236
1 of the classic ones and New Vegas of the modern ones.

>>389570287
>but with FNV engine
No go fuck yourself, anything but 1 or 2 on gamebyro of all engines.

>>389570013
I only add that last part because it pales in comparison to 1 or 2.
If you want to be jaded that's cool but it's actually possible to be immersed in NV because it feels real enough for you to do so.
The last-century Vegas aesthetic is half of the reason fucking around in that game is fun. It has nothing to do with the atmosphere it creates but the visual style. And neither of those games do it better. Both are generic wastelands.
You never get to explore the good and bad of the factions in 3 and the quests that end them are pathetic, like the Enclave where you talk a computer down on the basis of "because it's bad" in three sentences with no reasoning and it just blows up. Same shit with the final boss, too. Three sentences and you've talked down this guy's entire motives so hard he just gives up and walks out.
>literally just as bad
Except it's not deluded retard. Laser weapons actually do damage in NV, unlike 3, and are balanced out by the ammunition for them being far more scarce. Your reply was FO3 in post form because all it did was waste my time.

>>389570417
>Seriously insinuating F03 wasn't universally praised at release and literally created the next decade of shooters.

>>389570417
>old
>still playing videogames
>still posting on /v/
You're either pretending to be older to come off as superior or you're a pathetic man child. Pick your poison :^)

>>389570574
>Seriously insinuating F03 wasn't universally praised at release by critics
ftfy

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I personally like Fallout NV better than Fallout 3, but I´m just a cunt.

>>389569701
get spiked knuckles as early as possible

also boxing tape, gloves and golden gloves have a gamebreaking ability to fatigue enemies so make sure you pick them up as a backup, you can literally kill deathclaws at base level with boxing gloves if chet sells them

>>389570574
lol

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>>389569837
fuck,i hope.
i avoided nipton until i was level 20(i want to kill vulpes and use the terryfing presence dialogues,ok,ok i know it is a waste of perk but it's so cool).
fucking avoided sloan and went to novac throught the primm pass(somehow i manage to pass that blind deathclaw).

befriended the powder gangers,NCR loves me,White Glove Society Loves me,Boomers Love me.

but if any experieced new vegas anon could give me some tips to make my character a powerful melee/unarmed,that would be apreciated.
i wanted to make my characeter badass(being a weeb i gave some shitty name like GAR,a bit of guts and kenshiro).

>>389570574
You really don't remember "Oblivion with guns"? Critics liked the game, sure, but it was otherwise disliked by anyone not a Bethesda fan. I remember the Bethesda official forums imploding between the diehard Bethesda fans defending the game and the Fallout fans trashing it (granted that began not long after Bethesda announced they acquired Fallout franchise).

>>389558236
Fallout: New Orleans
Fallout: New Vegas
Fallout 1
Fallout 2
Fallout Tactics
Fallout Shelter
Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel
Fallout 3
Fallout 4
Obsidian please do me more me want bigger horn Chris Avellone slurp

>>389570013
>Cringe

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>>389570729
i got all but the golden gloves.
gonna make a visit to mr house later.
thanks anon.

>>389558236
4.
I'm not a bandwagoning impressionable child who gets his "opinions" on what is and isn't a good game from retarded second-rate e-celebs.

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>>389569359
Disregard the visuals and stories for both series and they all become iterations of the same game. He's actually just being so vague that they sound like they're the same set of games

>>389570554
It pales in comparison to most rpgs.
It's not being jaded, it's just that I'm not a fanboy. New Vegas' writing is circle jerked back and forth here for the sole reason that "it's not as bad as 3's". It literally has no other merits because it's not even that good of writing.
Aesthetics are a part of atmosphere.
>3 and 4 were just wasteland
Cant tell if youre trolling, are this much of a fanboy, or are just stupid. 3 had a late 40's art deco urban America with more of an emphasis on pulp sci-fi and other fictitious works from that era. 4 had colonial themed parts as well as 50's themed aesthetics both of which stomp late 50s early 60s vegas.
You seldom get to explore any of the factions outside of a small select few that they actually put effort into. Besides your argument was that 3's didn't have a place but I said they did. 3 opted for a clearly defined good and bad guy narrative, there's nothing wrong with that. Several amazing games, books and movies do too. NV opted for "everyone is a shade of grey" but kinda fell flat on their face, gave up, and made the Legion into the bad guys and everyone else besides House or NCR irrelevant.

>>389570287
I'd like to see NV remade in the Fallout 2 engine.

>>389571382
OP said best not worst.

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>>389570718

>liking a tiny U shaped ugly map with no random encounters or exploration value

>>389558379
epic 9gag meme bro!

>>389571504
>U shaped
never got this meme

fallout 2 is one of the greatest rpgs ever made

>>389571558
Going right is hard.

>>389571458
>NV opted for "everyone is a shade of grey" but kinda fell flat on their face, gave up, and made the Legion into the bad guys
The Legion are the "bad guys" because they aren't even expanded upon because of time constraints. You only think they're le ebul faction because you only see its army but not the society it formed

>>389571558
People who never played.

>>389571469
i'd like to see Fallout 1,2 and tactics remade in the 3/New Vegas engine.

>>389558269
fpbp

>>389558236
2 or NV for me but neither are perfect games.
2 has no difficulty curve; you can be blessed with a good random encounter or have your game ruined by a bullshit one. Plus the pop culture references are too much and its gets really jarring.

NV is great but is clearly not finished and is heavily restricted by a shit engine. If it had more time then maybe it would be the best without contest.

1 is too generic for my tastes. Fallout didn't become what it was design wise until 2. That's not to say 1 isn't good, I just prefer the world of 2 and NV more.

For the record, 3 is better than 4 by a longshot.

>>389571836
>wanting remakes on gamebryo
fucking why

>>389570983
>New Orleans
can this meme just die?

>>389571776
But that's not my fault, that's Obsidian's. I'm just speaking off of what I got in the game. Even then it'd be like Nazi Germany where yeah if you look at things from a general perspective society seems to be doing good, but that doesn't make them good

>>389559895
It actually is. I've been hooked when I first played Fallout 3 just because atmosphere was great. After a while gameplay become pretty boring and plot was full bananas, but as a first impressions go it was great.

>>389571971
>wanting remakes on a playable engine.
Fucking why not.

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>>389571776
>Le ebul

>>389571995
but i like this meme.

>>389572205
Classic Fallout is way more playable than gamebryo shit

>>389558236
Probably 4, its super easy to make a character that actually looks like a human and the colors of the game are very nice

>>389572127
>that's Obsidian's fault
You mean Bethesda's

>Even then it'd be like Nazi Germany where yeah if you look at things from a general perspective society seems to be doing good, but that doesn't make them good
you have to be retarded if you think there were good guys and bad guys in WW2

>>389571458
Probably because most RPGs don't bother to give you free reign and are more about telling the story of a specific character.
>enjoying decent writing requires being a fanboy
If I were actually a fanboy I would be shitting on NV since it still isn't 1 or 2 lmao
>3 had a late 40's art deco urban America with more of an emphasis on pulp sci-fi and other fictitious works from that era
Literally every fallout has this. 3 is not special for having it. In fact, it blows that it doesn't have anything but that.
And you could be right about 4 as far as I'm concerned because I'm not wasting my time or money on that shlock.
You get to explore each of the factions in NV and, aside from the Bombers, most of them have reasons for you to side with them and reasons for you to side against them.
>there's nothing wrong with that
Except for when they never explain why. For example, in 1 Mutants are the bad guys and there's no way you can let them live yet you are still given the opportunity to talk to them and understand why they do what they do and only through doing that can you actually talk down the main villain. 3 just has you end them. NV actually lets you decide who the good guys and bad guys are for yourself based off the pros and cons of each. Infinitely better than 3.

>>389572354
>cartooniest nufallout game
>super easy to make a character that actually looks like a human

>>389571485
Exactly the sort of braindead response I expected.
Kill yourself

>>389572340
>isometric camera.
>dull combat.
>merky graphics.
Sorry anon,but i desagree.
classic fallout aged poorly.

>>389572654
He's right

>>389572617
What are you trying to say my friend, use normal words instead of implying nothing like an autist sweety

>>389572741
>classic fallout aged poorly.
It was shit from the start.
New Vegas is the bestest Fallout.

>>389572520
No its because most RPGs have better writing in general.
You're a fan boy for trying to impose double standards and pretend that New Vegas has good writing.
1 and 2 didn't have the aforementioned aesthetic at all. It was more like mad max than anything. 3 was the first and only one to utilize the setting of an actual urban city with art deco structures and radio full of 40s and 50s songs. They took the pulp fiction themes and tropes to another level as well.
3 explores each of the 2 factions as well, and you pick up more than enough information on the enclave and brotherhood to know what they want and ate doing.

>>389572395
Not Bethesdas fault. Obsidian agreed to the contract knowing fully well all the restraints. A year and change to make a game with a large team and the engine and assets already there is more than enough.
I'm not even responding to the second one because you went full fedora.

>>389572275
I like this meme also. I just don't like the name "Fallout New Orleans". It's trying too hard to sound like New Vegas but without any thought or imagination gone into it

New New Orleans as a title is even worse.

>>389572798
And yet not a single argument has ever been given in the history of this site, let alone to me, to prove it.

>>389573102
>It was shit from the start.
don't be like that anon,just because you don't like it does not make classic fallout bad.

>>389573326
First day on /v/?

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>>389572741
>>dull combat.
>>merky graphics.
Are you fucking kidding me? This shit applies way more so NV than it does 1 and 2. NV has you firing shotgun pellets in enemy faces 5 times until they drop. NV also has permanent diarrhea filter. Show me a vanilla NV screenshot that's better looking than pic related

>>389573272
what would be good title in your opinion?

>>389573268
>not Bethesda's fault
we're talking about the same Bethesda that "handled" QA for New Vegas instead of Obsidian and we all know how that went.

>I'm not even responding to the second one because you went full fedora.
because you can't provide a good argument
>USA wouldn't had given a shit about the poor Jews if it wasn't for the Nips bombing Pearl Harbour
>UK caused Dresden which resulted in thousands of German civillians killed
and there's the Soviet Union but that requires no explanation

not even going to defend the Nazis for the Holocaust but that's the truth. There's no good guys vs bad guys, it's us vs them

>>389573268
>only argument is "nuh-uh"
1 and 2 have almost everything 3 has in some form in terms of aesthetic.
3 does not explore them at all. The game pretty much tells you which side you're on and pushes you along. 1 actually may cause you to side with the mutants until you find out about why they wouldn't work and it's possible to feel bad for the main villain after giving him that revelation. 3 has none of that and on top of that not even a handful of NPCs feel natural in the slightest. If I didn't know any better I would have thought they made it shit on purpose as a joke. I certainly thought the Enclave ending was supposed to be satire until no one else was laughing and realized they were serious.
>you pick up more than enough information on the enclave and brotherhood to know what they want and ate doing
Knowing what and why are two very different things.
Go back to blowing Todd, bethesda fanboy.

>>389573575
Fallout: Terrence Hill
And you get a cowboy hat for your woody if you pre-order.

>>389573575
A state/city motto is a good start.
So for New Orleans it'd be "Fallout: Crescent City" or "Fallout: Big Easy".

Alternatively you take a well known phrase associated with the setting and you apply it to the title. Even if it's a broad title which applies to a much larger area, like "Fallout: Deep South" or "Fallout: New Dixie" for example.

Even way it's better than just "hurr durr it's got the same name that's keeping with the spirit of the originals games I think not"

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>>389573424

fallout 1 is my favorite game
excellent story
>biggest lore (cause its everything we love about fallout )

i could go on .. But if u dont like 90's PC gaming u can Suck my dick

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>>389573424
>Are you fucking kidding me?
no dude

>This shit applies way more so NV than it does 1 and 2.
it applies for all three,but at least in new vegas your in the middle of the action,not some higher watching from the clouds.

>NV has you firing shotgun pellets in enemy faces 5 times until they drop.

if you have good build for guns that would not happen.

> NV also has permanent diarrhea filter.
and your picture of classic fallout doesn't?

>Show me a vanilla NV screenshot that's better looking than pic related.

for my eyes,i take vegas anyday.

now that is matter of opinion,anon.
we litetally gonna be here until this thead is archived with you saying classic fallout is better then vegas and me saying the opposite.

gameplay wise,new vegas is better.
but thats just me.

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>>389574334

>>389574334
How does a game made in 2010 look uglier than a game made in 1996 based 93 years after a global nuclear apocalypse

>>389574334
new vegas objectively looks like fucking vomit and is made in a fucking trash 20 year old engine

the classic fallouts had very good art direction and are pleasing to the eye still to this day

>>389573424
>NV has you firing shotgun pellets in enemy faces 5 times until they drop.
So do Fallouts 1 and 2.

>>389574734
in the original fallout the combat shotgun is shit against armored enemies but try to burst an unarmored enemy and see what happens you dumb fuck

>>389574734
>So do Fallouts 1 and 2.
No they don't. Maybe if you're an idiot and you tag less than 3 perception. You can one shot most people if you go for a VATS headshot even with the 10mm. NV is just awkward in that regard because it gives the allusion that it's a first person shooter but it turns how that it's just a wall shooting simulator. Headshots should be OHKO's always.

>>389574056
>>389574125
>Alternatively you take a well known phrase associated with the setting and you apply it to the title
but putting the city motto into the post apocalypse will make some mottos look weird our out of place.
>Chicago aka City in a Garden
given how fallout version of the nuclear apocalypse has dead plant life,that would not fit very well.

but given some time and some back and forth some body could come up with something cool.

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>>389574439
>>389574721
>>389574732

1/2/NV > rest

>>389575283
That neat skybox contrast doesn't make up for the vomit orange plastered on literally every object in this piece of shit. Atleast post a good looking screenshot like the Strip at night.

>>389563671
I can get behind this. But...
Fallout 2=New Vegas
>Power gap
Fallout 1
Fallout 4
Fallout 3

Going back to 3 feels almost as archaic as 1/2/T.

>>389575283
not an argument you faggot

also

>defending the looks of a game made in the shittiest engine known to man (in a AAA title game)

>>389575193
Chicago is one of those freak locations where we know what it's called, and we know it hasn't changed it's name.

Not everything has to stick to the motto conventions. Some places just drop some of the letters, like Toronto becoming Ronto and Pittsburgh becoming The Pitt.

In my fanfic, New Orleans is renamed Stonewall due to a combination of the anti flood levees that surround the place, and a rebirth of the CSA and it's admiration for it's old leadership.

>>389575283
As someone who loves NV, your argument is embarrassing.

NV unmodded looks like complete shit. No gamebryo engine game looks decent. Morrowind is alright but it's carried heavily by its art direction.

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>>389575460
>>389575713
>That neat skybox contrast doesn't make up for the vomit orange plastered on literally every object in this piece of shit.
>not an argument you faggot
every thing you guys say is based on personal opinion,this is not discussion anymore.
you guys are just spewing bile to me for having a different opinion.
i'm just here watching the comments

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>>389575796
thats a cool name,anon.

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>>389576236
>you guys say is based on personal opinion
No it isn't.

>>389558236
New Vegas>3>1>2>4

>>389575564
You can always tell a NVbabby by this shit.

Fallout 1
>gap
fallout 2
>power gap
>power gap
>power gap
>power gap
>power gap
fallout NV
>power gap
fallout 4
>power gap
fallout 3

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>>389576686
>No it isn't.
yes it is.

>>38955834
3 and 4 were real shit

>>389563671
Yeah , one was a diamond in the rough

>>389558729
I would have enjoyed the customization if they had more of it. Feels like theres very few sidegrades for guns and everything always ends up being a rifle.

Plus melee and unarmed have so little mods compared to guns feels neutered compared to Fallout 3 and especially to New Vegas.

>>389558343
this

>>389573419
Show me an actual "argument" that isn't blind bitching about the Bethesda boogeyman and strawmans

>>389558236
Van Buren

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>>389558343
4 is great too, what are you talking about?

>>389558379
If you want to pretend you're "discussing" video games, then let's discuss. We can begin with your defense for finding literal dogshit masquerading as video games to be appealing. All you ever dredge up is "opinions" this, and "opinions" that. As if all perspectives come down to arbitrary taste. The fact is that some films are better than others. If you enjoy watching Barney and Friends on VHS, you are going to be mocked by people who'd prefer to watch Citizen Kane or The Shining on DVD. If you enjoy eating McDonalds Happy Meals, you are going to be mocked by people who would rather have lobster had a 5 star restauraunt. Just as it is with video games. If your favourite game is Overwatch, you are going to be laughed at by people who like Quake. Some video games are better than others, and it's not a matter of somebody's personal emotions. It's an objective evaluation of their gameplay, visual design, sound design, story, impact, etc. And the fact is my opinions are SUPERIOR to yours, I am in the ivory tower because I come up with arguments to justify my point of view, I don't believe baseless shit simply because I "feel like it," or whatever. I reason, I use logic, I think about things. If your only reason for defending this is, "I don't know why I like it, I just do," your opinion is infantile, and you are a moron who cannot critically evaluate anything, so it's no wonder people don't respect you, and it's no wonder people accuse you of being an obvious shill.

>>389558236
New Vegas for best fallout-ness
4 for shooting+exploring+looting

1 for being classic

I thinks 1 linearity really strenghtens it's position as the best, it knew what it wanted to do and it did it well. Any issues are just common issues with products from that time.

>>389578583
I didn't really like Fallout 4's rooty tooty shoot and looty gameplay

>>389571382
What did you like about it?

The gunplay was alright I guess, but other modern games are still much better and the older titles had a lot more variety with the weapons.

The settlement building was just a huge mistake and waste of resources, not to say you can't have a good time with it but it's very limited and not thought out while also distracts from the general theme of being a drifter in a savage wasteland.

The story was just dumb, they continued to make the Brotherhood of Steel Space Marine rip offs and the whole thing about the institute making Slave Robots with free will in a universe that already has slave robots without that issue was dumb.

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>>389578380
>If you want to pretend you're "discussing" video games, then let's discuss. We can begin with your defense for finding literal dogshit masquerading as video games to be appealing. All you ever dredge up is "opinions" this, and "opinions" that. As if all perspectives come down to arbitrary taste. The fact is that some films are better than others. If you enjoy watching Barney and Friends on VHS, you are going to be mocked by people who'd prefer to watch Citizen Kane or The Shining on DVD. If you enjoy eating McDonalds Happy Meals, you are going to be mocked by people who would rather have lobster had a 5 star restauraunt. Just as it is with video games. If your favourite game is Overwatch, you are going to be laughed at by people who like Quake. Some video games are better than others, and it's not a matter of somebody's personal emotions. It's an objective evaluation of their gameplay, visual design, sound design, story, impact, etc. And the fact is my opinions are SUPERIOR to yours, I am in the ivory tower because I come up with arguments to justify my point of view, I don't believe baseless shit simply because I "feel like it," or whatever. I reason, I use logic, I think about things. If your only reason for defending this is, "I don't know why I like it, I just do," your opinion is infantile, and you are a moron who cannot critically evaluate anything, so it's no wonder people don't respect you, and it's no wonder people accuse you of being an obvious shill.
my opinion is law:the post.

>>389579667
It is.

>>389579754
sure,buddy.

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>>389559290
It's still pretty good considering eveything else thats in the game. It's definitely in my top 5 for most satisfying gunplay.
>mfw a conversation turns into combat and I immediately whip out my shotgun and blow their brains out

>>389562194
this
It's the only fallout where I prefer vanilla weapons

>>389578583
>New Vegas for best fallout-ness
What do you mean by "fallout-ness" you mean obnoxious MUH FIFTIES BUT IN THE WASTELAND shoved in your face every 2 seconds? People like you don't realize that garbage was restricted towards the intros of 1 and 2 exclusively.

>>389580308
No. If anything was 50's wasteland it'd be 3 or 4

Just talking about fallouty writing in general compared to 3 and 4

The only good thing about Fallout has been this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QzD8f2BTlg

I really really liked this theme and stuck in my head for so long, leaving it to play completely at the menu.

Then the game started and uhhh... molerats bugging again.

>>389580658
epic

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>>389558236
2 is the best. You can get a car, be a porn star, and join the mafia all in one night!

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>tfw enjoy the fallout series as a whole and can enjoy each game without worry

Try it, its fun.

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>>389582106
shit,i thought i was the only one.

>>389582106
>le I like everything equally so nobody can judge my taste meme

>>389582356
>le i disagree because is cool to do on /v/ meme

>>389569701
I just finished a run of this same exact shit.
All I can say is, get the fucking chainsaw and you will never lose.

>>389582501
but anon,isn't the chainsaw OP?

>>389582106
I tried to enjoy 4 but it was not fun at all

>>389582805
Okay.

>>389582624
That's pretty much what I meant by "you will never lose".

>>389582106
I'm enjoying fallout 4 but I keep comparing it to New Vegas and Fallout 3. Gunplay is better though but everything else is worse. 7/10

>>389583051
ok thanks.
but being challeging is part of the fun so,i gonna use it in the divide.

>>389582106
>tfw enjoy the fallout series as a whole
So in other words, you don't understand why you like it.

>>389558412
i agree with this statement of truth. i dont hate people who love 3 and 4 more but what they are playing is not fallout

>>389559079
fallout 2 was released in september 1998
the good fallout are not for casual mass market people. it is a good thing. mass appeal make lots of game lose its identity

>>389563671
truth