NoA2

That's the best that can happen to bad developers so they are forced to make good games.

>>389470136
So did the game go full yuri or not?

>>389470136

Don't worry, the West will save Nu-Gust from dying.

>>389470136
Oh its this thread again. With the same image too.

Sex sells, they said.

>>389470478
No there was less no kissing or confession Just a conversation with Arnice if she in love with one of the girls

>>389470136
they're rushing their shit way too much

if at least Blue Reflection didn't exist and they used the resources elsewhere, maybe NoA2 and Firis could've been better games

instead we got 3 shit games

So basically people are just mad that it didnt go full yuri after all?

>>389470513
Good luck like Japan gives a shit what west thinks

People learned their lesson when the first game was so bad.

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>>389470136
>NoA2
There's a second Nintendo of America?
Dear god...

>>389470871
>>389470876
No they are mad that it is the same story. And it ruined the first one with the two protagonist

What game? Looks great

>>389470892
Considering they had to resort to porting their games to Steam to break even, yes, they do care about the West. Which is not a good thing if you ask me.

>>389471012
what about the fact that the game plays like shit

>>389471012
Don't forget the new characters we're just fan service billboard cutouts cow tits

fuck KT

>>389471106
How bad anon did they fix being on hotel and time limiter that is a game breaker for me

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Good thing I liked the first game despite its shitty combat. From what I've seen from videos that nips have uploaded to youtube after release, I'm sure I like this one as well.

how far does this game go with the yurishit?

I don't give a shit, will someone just upload the fucking OST already?

:(

>>389471258
Spoken like true gustfag
>>389471409

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>>389470136
Just make Ar Tonelico 4 already and this time make sure it doesn't suck

They still haven't improved the gameplay ?

Did they (at the very least) make this one as lewd as Senran K ?

Pretty sure it was one of the top selling PS4 games

>>389471609
no

no

>>389470136
NoA2? More like DoA2

>>389470136


>>389470416
fpbp. Maybe this will teach them to finally make good games.

>>389471485

That's a very cute gif you got there.

>>389471656
the first game sold 80k first week, this one sold 30k

the vita version of NoA1 alone sold more than all versions of NoA2 combined (PS4, Vita and Switch)

I thought about buying the first one

How does it play?

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Yeah, Gust!

>>389470416
You know the lesson they will learn is to pander more shamelessly to the otakus. I don't know how much low they can sink but Japan never cease to amaze me

>>389472258
K for first time but sequel ducked way up

>>389471656
That's not saying much seeing as not nearly enough people in Japan own a PS4.

>>389472450
They are already seeing that pandering to otaku is not enough. Well, at least they're the only ones who buy their overpriced CEs, but that's more a collector thing.

>>389470892
The west has saved many otaku games from being complete flops

>>389472273
Sophie and Arnice are so cute in All-Stars.

>>389472553
But Guts won't make a good game even for saving the company. All they can do is to pander to the otakus. If their games are failing, from Guts perspective that mean they aren't pandering enough. Expect traps, idols, school settings, tons of references to old animes and more

>>389472498
Is it like a top down or isometric action rpg or something? Hard to tell from the gameplay videos

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>>389472273
>tfw Ion and Earthes didn't get in

>>389472587
Lol keep saying that to yourself you might be belive one day.
Also the first game so badly in the West even in pc stream

>>389470136
>well it failed too
NoA was the best-selling Gust title in years you fucking retard. Post your sources before shitposting kid.

>>389473207
NoA did well

NoA2 didn't

>>389473207
What NoA did right?
Inb4 yuri, it's a fact that yuri sells like shit and your cute girls doing cute shit it's not yuri.

I think it was Japan's permaboner for destiny and fatalism. Also the romantic friendship added extra-drama without alienating the purityfags. The Japanese audience love melodrama. That's why there are so many movies and J-dramas about leads dying from some disease

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>>389472835
I really love how their artstyle completely clashes with the rest of the game and zero fucks are given.
I also enjoy William being the only character voiced in English.

this game is so shit it makes me wonder how bad it looked during the initial intended release date in december last year

>>389473207
>>389473586
We're talking about the sequel not the original the first one so like gold the second one was a mistake that should of not even been created

>>389473714
Fun fact it was held back to put it on switch and you put in Arnice

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>>389473682
>I also enjoy William being the only character voiced in English.
does he ever comment on how everyone is only speaking japanese

>>389473941
No but weirdly enough he tells Hayabusa that he's supposed to be in a land called Japan but Hayabusa doesn't even comment on it.

>>389473941
No. Nobody mentions it.

>>389473941
No, language barriers are always completely ignored in this and the Orochi games.

>>389473915
>put in Arnice
>only way to make that work is getting rid of Lilysse
>ruin purest love in favor of backfired pandering attempt

>>389470892
This. SEGA, Square Enix, and GUST all acknowledge that the west has purchased more than Japanese fans. Yet when it comes time for surveys, it's always the Japanese that are asked.

>>389474702
>>389470892
Probably a good thing.

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>>389470136
I haven't been keeping up really, what are the 3 that failed? Does Blue Reflection suck? I was actually looking forward to it and fuck you I'm still buying both of these games.

NoA2 isn't out in America yet, right? Are we basing that it flopped based on JP sales?

This game just felt like it was made by people who had no prior experience making ARPGs. Even for Gust this wasn't anywhere close to sequel worthy performance.

>>389475118
Is blue reflection so less than 50 k nights of azure 2 lost a lot of sales being on 3 platforms a Japanese game if it fails in their home country is a big indicator that is going to fail else were

Why did Gust stop doing 2D games? The first two Ar Tonelico games were absolutely beautiful.

>>389475871
Enjoy your ban

>>389471258
Somethimes I wish I had garbage taste too so I could enjoy literal shit as well. Alas, I don't have shit taste so I'm unable to.

>>389476149
Anon its just a game that failed its ok your life will keep on going

>>389475118
Are you implying that noa would sell well here? Kek
No one will care about this shit now that we know that 1) it's not yuri, 2) gameplay is even worse and 3) the graphics are worse

>>389475887
the 2d games where good because banpresto was working with them

>>389477389
Then why aren't they still working together?

>>389477620
Scamco happened.

>>389477620
no idea

>>389475887
Exa Pico is dead jim

>>389470136
woah maybe they'll hire a new game director and we can get good games from them

>>389477005
The yurifags are natural born cucks. Not sure if they're a viable market unlike the Japanese yuri market

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The quality of their games was better when they just did the 1 console version, then later did a handheld port about a year later. All these 2 or 3 simultaneous platform releases they've been doing since Sophie have been stretching them way too thin and the quality of their games have taken big hits.

>>389478367
>wanting more girls make you a cuck

For normalfags, sure. And the first game sold because of the yuri everywhere, tell regret removing this big time.

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>>389478512
Sophie was great though. And yes, nobody needs to reply because I already know your faggot opinions.

>>389478543
See >>389473586

>>389478807
She's a great character but her game doesn't look great, especially the environments. The town looks like ass.

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>>389470892
Depends, the West isn't all normalfags playing PUBG.

I'm always up for weebshit and willing to pay for it. Thing is even I can only play so many games. So please stop cranking them out 3 a year KTGust.

>>389478807
Sophie was great. Firis was a poor follow up.

>>389479430
Yeah, that's why otakushit perform better overseas than in Japan

>>389479440
Waiting forever for Firis to drop in price since I'm not paying that much for a poorly coded mess of a game.

>halfassed yuri isn't selling anymore

good. Maybe gust will learn yuri is a passing fad and stop with the shit bait. Probably not but karma is nice either way.

>>389475382
This kind of stuff is made by otakus and for otakus

>>389470136
http://gematsu.com/2017/09/media-create-sales-82817-9317
>Gust’s Nights of Azure 2: Bride of the New Moon launched at 18,207 copies sold on PlayStation 4, 7,168 copies on PS Vita, and 4,463 copies on Switch for a total of 29,838 sales
First game sold 80k FYI.

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>>389479109
It's a multiplat with Vita and for Vita ports they tend to put most of the resources into the character models at the expense of the environment, textures and framerate. That's why everything was so flat. If they tried to spice up things much more it wouldn't run on Vita, and if they tried to make only the PS4 version prettier it'd be like they were making another game which they don't have the budget to do.

>>389479440
Thank you. Probably the only anon I've ever encountered that shares this opinion.

>>389479781
>hating purest love

>>389479751
Firis has everything Sophie did, just much worse characters.

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>>389479551
Ofcourse. There are only 130 million Japanese. And handheld gaming has taken over the market there.

Weebshit will always be niche. Normal people are, unfortunately, the majority. But on a global scale there are enough of us to keep companies like KTGust, Falcom and Bandai alive. Otherwise why even play videogames if games like Horizon, Destiny and Minecraft are the future?

>>389480038
Was first 80k within a week?
Sequels rarely ever sell equal to or more than the first.

>>389470136
>time limit
Into the trash it goes.

>>389480342
>Was first 80k within a week?
Yes, 80k across all platform on first week.

>>389480486
Welp, good thing it's probably almost all reused assets and no need to really create an all new battle system. So, it probably still turned a profit considering the time and money saved on creation.

>>389480418
First game had time limit as well. It's just how much time you can spend in a zone though, it's not like you're limited on beating the game within a set amount of days.

I'm really, really enjoying Sophie in All-Stars.
I love the way she calls out to all the Dynasty Warriors by name.

>>389480143
To be fair, weebshit isn't much better than Horizon, Destiny and Minecraft unless you play with one hand only

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>>389481103
Even her combos are cute.

>Warriors All Stars is the best Gust related game in years.
What went so wrong?

>>389480143
Remember when Japanese games could sell millions of copies? Good times

>>389479781
They should go full hardcore tribbing next time. Shit isn't selling anymore so it's time to go mad

>>389478985
>game with yuri sells
>sequel with no yuri doesn't sell
>b-b-but my memay!!!
>it's just a coincidence!!

No. Fuck you.

>>389481258
Specifically the way she says "Zhao san!"
Also how long to I need to play to have Sophie meet William and Lu Bu. That's what I'm waiting for.

>>389471258
I know what kind of audience bought this game but I still wish it had shoujo-like designs, like a fairy tales ilustration.

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>>389481398
What went so right?

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>>389482891
I dunno, I get constant randomly generated battles popping up and only occasionally do I get around to an actual mission. Hilarious how /v/ tried to convince everyone that the game has no content just because it only has a story mode.

>>389483267
Get in the fucking bath Sophie, it's just a damn panda.

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>>389483267
I almost wanna get this.

>>389483414
The only other complain I heard was bravery forcing you to do map objectives but even then it's just a variant of red zones so I really don't see the issue at all.

>>389481538
Yeah I remember. PS2 sold 20 million in Japan alone. It was the golden age of JRPGs and VNs.

And in those days it didn't take 5 years and 50 million $ minimum to make a game.

>>389483267
I kinda want this now.
Might buy it to get in another game after I finish Yakuza Kiwami and before V3 is released.

>>389483862
>>389483573
It's a really stupid game.
I love it.

>>389484656
It really is fun, espevially since it doesn't even attempt to take itsrlf seriously like the Orochi games.

Lu Bu and Marie Rose become besties even.

>>389483785
Too bad JRPGs are niche now

>>389483743
Bravery only becomes a hassle in late story stages where the enemy is mostly 4-10 bravery and you start at 1 and you allies are 3 or below.
The final true end battle had me having to restart several times due to the furry fucks getting killed early before I can raise bravery high enough to deal with anything in a timely matter (and if enemies have bravery much higher than you, they get super armor and automatic counter attacks). Ended up having to put all three of the morons in my team as the game didn't care if the generics replacing them died.

>>389481538
You mean 2017? The year that Persona 5 came out?
Or 2016 when we had DaS3 and Final Fantasy 15?

>>389486219
>if enemies have bravery much higher than you, they get super armor and automatic counter attacks
Yeah just like red zones then.

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>>389470136
>nu-gust
Everyting after Ayesha is shit.

>>389470136
The west will save the game anyway

A shame. If they touched up the game mechanically from the first it could've been 8/10.

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>>389488012
She sure is.

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>>389488012

Should I buy Sophie's game? Never played an atelier, btw.

>>389486290
>millions
persona 5 didn't even reach 2 million copies sold

>>389486290
Isn't Persona a niche game? Well, good for them

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>>389488503
>Never played an atelier
Yes.

>>389488503
yeah, it's a good starting point

>>389488503
It's arguably the worst atelier game to date.

>>389488624
Persona 5 was voted as the best JRPG of all time by the Japanese.

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What was wrong with Blue Reflection?

>>389489349
Not yuri, too easy, not enough content, too much talking for nothing

>>389489278
Isn't Famitsu the Japanese IGN?

>>389489487
So it's just like any other Gust game?

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>>389489278
>~2000 famitsu readers equal "the Japanese"

>>389489562
At least NoA was yuri and had a plot.

>>389489682
>NoA was yuri
The people that actually worked on the game disagree

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I really should stop buying with my dick when it's not even on sale.

Are people really pretending Sophie was good now?

What is stopping Gust from making a Persona clone? Why are they so invested into yuri bait? They kinda did it with Mana Khemia already so just need to improve it more. Look at Falcom and Cold Steel.

>>389489845
They can go to hell. It's the most romantic game I've played in a long time

>>389489852
As long you don't buy the sequel.

>>389490121
Escha and Logy was the last decent title tbqh

>>389489349
I don't know but the OST is pretty great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbHp_BaYj-k

>>389490121
The gameplay was fine and Sophie was a good girl. I personally enjoyed the bodybuilding part but otherwise the story was quite dry.

>>389490205
Gust OSTs are always great.

>>389470416
or go bankrupt like imageepooch

A damn shame I liked a few of their games a lot like Sol Trigger and Arc Rise Fantasi

>>389490319
The battle system was shit. Taking away ability to decide def/atk support on the fly was wrong. Only the alchemy part was good.

>>389490675
At least imageepooch didn't turn Fate into dumb musous. They shouldn't have died.