What went wrong?

never released in the US

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>>389414028
Nothing it's the best weeb MMO out there right now. All the hentai artists are playing it.

>>389414182
Did SEGA ever say they were?

Too much action, not enough RPG

Quests are too short which removes the dungeon crawling feeling, and makes it pretty much pointless to join a party in progress.

Weapons don't have unique attributes and are just stat increases, which removes the fun of collecting a wide arsenal

Episode 4

They took their unique art style and made it generic anime.

>>389414182
Literally the most inconsequential of all the game's problems.

>>389414358
Phantasy Star 1-4 were generic anime. PSO is literally the only game in the whole franchise that's not

western Switch release WHEN??

>>389414659
lol

>>389414315
Yes. Multiple times

>>389414481
Phantasy Star 3 isn't generic anime.

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>>389414028
>Episode 1
Godlike
>Episode 2
Acsended Godlike or just call it Godlike 2
>Episode 3
>Beginning - Middle
>Fucking Godlike
>Get to the end
>Notice things going to shit
>Episode 4
Well... it was a fun ride for a few years. They literally fucked up everything from here on, and so... the majority of us quit.

To be honest, as a new player you wouldn't notice this and probably think I'm wrong, but that because you are getting the same happy feeling from the game right now, eventually you'll open your eyes and see the true.

Also, I recently saw the new class. Not bad Sega. Looks cool, but I still wont return. There still exist many other issues.

>>389414764
Outright? If so, how'd they get away with lying

>>389414358
pso looked like generic 90s anime

>>389414315
The official website and Facebook page are both still up. Both last updated at PAX 2012, when there was a English version playable.

then dead silence.

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>>389415075
I disagree.

>>389414316
>weapons dont have unique attributes
they did, but the introduction of 13* shit and cfiles killed all of that

>>389415284
>SEA gets full blown english PSO2
>WEST still doesn't have the game

There was a topic on I think Nexon or NCSoft in talks about trying to bring PSO2 to the west some time back in 2015, but Sega doesn't want that to out source their shit. Either they do it or we don't get PSO2.

>>389414028
Sega gave no shit about content or class balance and just caters to whale who spend thousands of dollars on SG scratch for items they can't wear or trade

Because when you think Phantasy Star Online, I think battling the fucking Yamato.
Like, THE Yamato, the superbattleship, in a boss fight that's a laser light death parade that seems to actively try to fry the japs' shitty PC hardware's graphiccards

>>389414028
Too grindy. The quests re-use the same areas constantly for slightly different boring objectives. Respecing is/was too restricted

Also doesn't help it was a bit of a pain in the ass to connect to from outside Japan. Oh and that bug where the game would format your HDD if you uninstalled probably didn't help

>>389415698
itd be shit anyways just like how the SEA version was, behind lots of updates missing a lot of shit

>>389414182
Let's be real, that would not have made a single bit of difference considering SEGA's track record with non-jap servers.

An NA release would have been hacked to shit and left to rot just like the SEA PSO2 server, the NA PSU servers, and the NA PSO servers.

>>389415698
>wanting SEA pso2

>>389415870
At least you're not living in SEA and get cucked the fuck out with IP block, right?

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>what went wrong
The fact that the Vita version exists, so we well forever be stuck with low poly shit.

Also locking shit behind scheduled things you can run only once. They kinda fixed that with the latest episode and buster quests but then they locked it behind a shitty stamina system.

Fuck you sega. Fuck you.

Gameplay is still fun though, I am having fun.

>>389414938
The new class is extremely fun, quick and powerful. Too much actually. People don't bother playing anything else now because going back to other classes just feels really clunky. It's a weird thing I've never seen in any other game where they released something so well done it just shits over everything else they've ever done so the game becomes shit because there's really only one class that is viable and fun.

>>389415669
Not really. Potentials help but it's nothing compared to PSO where you would have a dedicated loadout of weapons to deal with all situations. At most people use different weapons of the same type for bosses or mobs. And this is almost no one because most often people will use the same weapon because they don't care about doing 5% more damage against bosses.

>>389416008
Pretty sure you need/needed a VPN to even connect in the first place so what would an IP block matter

>>389414028
>You have to resort to minmaxing just to function
>Godawful story in episode 4 just to tie in to its shitty anime adaption

>>389415698
If Nexon got their shitty hands on pso2 I would rather have NOTHING
Nexon having anything to do with an mmo might as well be a death sentence for quality.

>>389414028
EP4 is what's wrong, what were they thinking?
That shit make every single players i actively play with drop the game.

>>389416123
>weapons to deal with all situations
That's because PSO didn't have PAs.

>>389416123
i mean its a bit different in pso2 because the game is not as hard, but if you wanted to excel you did have to vary your arsenal, for example, you wouldnt be using twin daggers for mobbing, etc

>>389416197
DPS is the only right way to play, otherwise you're shitter that waiting to be added to the JP blacklist.

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>Want to play PSO again
>Remember I have no friends to power level me

Help

>>389416297
Is this new job really just blatantly stronger than everything else like I've heard?

>>389416197
Don't forget blatant class favoritism. Seriously, anyone with a melee weapon is unavoidably shat on.

>>389416435
Faggots like this are what went wrong, too.

>>389416476
>class favoritism
>against melee
The top classes right now are hero, Fighter, Gunner and Katana braver in that order. The only thing in the gutter as far as melee goes is Bouncer, which has been in the gutter since release.

Really, if you want to see how bad it can truly be look at force and Bow braver

>>389416197
>minmaxing
the game is piss easy, you really dont know what minmaxing in pso2 really is

>>389416476
there is favoritism but its for melee classes like hero and fighter, force got shat on badly, techer is worthless, Ra can barely compete, Gu does OK but struggles, Bouncer is dead, Bravier only good with katana, Summoner is dead

>>389416451
In almost all situations, yes it is. It really is.

>>389416563
Can't handle the truth, tank baby?

>>389416451
Hero is from Ep5 but yes
>Can literally do more DPS than an entire class by just holding left click
what the fuck was sega thinking

>>389416451
Not stronger but definitely faster. Though I guess having more mobility makes you stronger in action games.

>>389416435
>JP blacklist
?

>>389416698
>the game is piss easy, you really dont know what minmaxing in pso2 really is
Some people playing this game expecting to be pure tanker, and they will not listen if you said tanking have no use in this game.

>>389416698
Has Force ever been good?

I know in PSO and PSU they were only brought along for their buffs and debuffs. Offensive techs always tended to scale like trash.

>>389416930
Some Japanese players goes hardcore to blacklist shitter, you can usually find the thread on 2ch.
They will goes into all the trouble leaving the room just to avoid shitters.
I haven't play in a year, dunno if they still do it or not.

>>389417113
Force was top tier in EP3 and 4, but also required rainbow sets

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>>389414028
>never localized
>became too weeaboo
>still never localized

even though the artstyle became too weeby, i'd still would've played the shit out of it if it got fucking localized

>>389417113
Force is always good, but require extensive grind for multiple element weapon and cash for multiple skill tree.

>>389417113
Force was stupidly overpowered for a long time, mostly episode 2/3 when lillipa TD was popular, their techs hit a mile away, and would hit very hard, i remember when ilmegid spam was the seasonal meme and the only thing youd see was black hands flying everywhere destroying all mobs.

Then they get combo techs that deal a shitton of dmg, and just now SEGA decides to stop it placing a CD of 2 minutes or so on them, they are still OK, just struggle a lot to beat hero, which is the favorite class right now

>>389414659
the english version servers in asia is already dead so never.

>>389417383
Force is almost always the strongest class, they only got momentarily BTFO by Braver only to get buffed again.

>>389416358
So? That means I only have to bother upgrading a single weapon and that's it. In short I'm really just asking for a better grind, not more. And even then tons of gear would be weapons that induce status effects or are riskier to use with berserk, etc. I'm not saying PSO2's PAs are bad, I'm just kinda sad when I see newly released weapons, look at the stat/potential, and say "oh, well I'm never using that, it does less damage" to 99% of all weapons.

Also most people just spam 1-2 PAs anyways, maybe a different one for bosses. Hero kinda exempt from this because it's actually a well designed class short of its Talis.

>>389416698
>techer worthless
It's literally the second best class right now, and wand + CC is quite good in Buster quests. Just try not to have more than one, just like FO in PSO. But no I cannot defend TE's brainless style of play, that needs work.

>>389417736
but all you do in hero is spam 1-2 PAs too, it has like 4PAs per weapon, and two of those are to swap

>Also most people just spam 1-2 PAs anyways
depends on mobs, you will want to vary what you use

it followed PSU's footsteps instead of PSO's. it's also F2P.

>>389417736

>Also most people just spam 1-2 PAs anyways

If you're Katana Braver or Bouncer, sure. FI actively benefits from comboing different PAs with Tech Arts, And most other classes can mix and match PAs depending on the situation perfectly fine still.

>Hero kinda exempt from this

>rising slash - rising slash - normal for bosses
>MPAs literally filled with Brand New Star spam for mobs

It's a perfect example of it.

Also, talis actually works very well as a supplementary weapon. It feels like its main purpose is to build gear when used in tandem with sword or TMG.

im better off just popping in PSO into my Dreamcast, huh?

Someone give me an update on the state of ranger.

>>389419131
BTFO
Its the same shti as before but weak bullet is not as good

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It may be nostalgia goggles but to me PSO did everything better. Story, worldbuilding, atmosphere, music, enemy design, and even the combat, slow and clunky as it was, felt a lot more tactical and gratifying. 2 just fell short of all the expectations that PSO1 had built for me.

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>>389414182
literally built my pc thinking it was going to be released

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>Want to play PSO2 again
>Remember that I have to level up every classes to max level to be viable and then farm every single one of their cubesomething and then farm a fuckton of thing for the weapon I wanted to upgrade

God, why couldn't I just play one job and endlessly farm a type of mob to have 0.8% chance to get the weapon I want

>>389421961
because you're playing a fucking awful game

>>389422059
Wrong thread?

>>389422140
no. pso2 is shit in part for the reasons you mentioned

>>389416123
Are you talking about Challenger?

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We all know the only good thing about this game is the character creator and the dress up.

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>>389422818
Yeah. It's fun checking the fashion catalog once in a while to see what people come up with.

Shame it's usually 80% loli most of the time.

>>389422818
>like button
What the fuck has heppened to this game while I've been away? Here I thought it might have been recovering after the cancer of episode 4, but now I've certainly lost hope.

>>389414028
Heroes.

This might sound like a cop out but that's literally what is killing this game.

To the ignorant: Hero is a class that was added recently to PSO2. It is a so called "advanced" class, requiring level 75 in 3 different classes. It is the first class to be gated by other prerequisite classes since the game's release. It is also main-class only meaning that Hero cannot be combined with any other class. It is it's own entity.

Prior to this patch, PSO2 was playing a balance juggling game with its current "basic" classes. It also introduced easier ways to gear up your character and the meta was for the most part balanced and every class was capable of clearing content around the same time as each other.

But along came Hero. It singlehandedly shattered the diversity of the playerbase simply due to how easy it is to use and how strong it is. Hero is remarkably fast, incredibly agile, can fly in the air with the greatest of ease, and has no downsides at all. Every class feels sluggish and almost a chore to play compared to Hero.

PSO2 as of now is a joke. Any semblance of balance is completely killed off and even Hero itself is not diverse enough in its rigid build to accomodate for different playstyles.

But that's all good right? SEGA will surely nerf Hero for being too good right? Wrong. Hero is an "advanced class", and SEGA is using this category to create insanely strong classes, Hero being the first. There is another "advanced class" coming october.

>>389421961
>Tfw still viable with my 11* weapons

>>389424269
>using excubes as weapons

>>389424146
No there isn't you fuccboi, the next advanced class is coming out Ep6, which could be next year or more. They are buffing every other class that got left behind by Hero on October. L2Read

>>389424146
Cont. because I'm still mad:

The content released with Hero is called "Buster Quest". This content is gated to a certain amount of clears a day, effectively creating another daily system.

The content while fun, plays very similarly to previous content (mining base defense). Not to mention the rewards are pointless to non-heroes.

Unless you are looking for a 12* Unit (a rare endgame armor that drops from certain bosses and events), there is no point to doing Buster Quest to farm its weapons if you are not a Hero. The weapons' special ability only pertains to Hero and is far inferior to other weapons.

To make matters even worse, Buster Quest map is long and sprawling. Most classes have trouble reaching the enemy in time before they die to the 90% Hero population.

So to summarize, SEGA gave Hero its own patch and made the game Hero Online. If you are not playing Hero, you have no reason to log in. There is no reward or incentive to play any other class and to solidify this thought, they NERFED most meta classes on the same patch as Hero release.

>>389424146
>It is the first class to be gated by other prerequisite classes since the game's release.
That is not so. Fighter, Gunner and Techter used to be 'advanced classes' that you had to unlock through client orders. The requirements were nothing absurd like what Hero is, though. Didn't have to cap anything. I'm not sure when they became normal classes. Might have been Episode 3 launch?

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>>389414028
Not enough cosmetics and valkyrie pieces.

>>389424146
I benged Forcer(?) to 75 in Buster quests with only a gunslash. Sucked hella dick but Hero was worth it.

I wish I could play, but I'm an EOP.

>>389414272
Based

>>389414028
PSO was a 3rd person sci-fi fantasy, Diablo/Gauntlet, dungeon crawler game with a very nice colorful almost cel shaded look to it. It had a really fun looting system based around section IDs, and every rare item you found actually felt like it actually mattered. The combat, while nothing amazing, fit the game very well. It was slower paced, but mowing down the numerous mobs felt very satisfying. Where PSO2 failed for me was failing to capture that original Dungeon crawler, looting feel. The items are all basically just glorified stat sticks that don't alter your gameplay the way loot in PSO did. However, one could argue that ended with PSU, and I didn't really like that game as much as PSO either. However, to make matters worse PSO2 entirely lost that unique mysterious sci-fi fantasy atmosphere PSO had going for it and instead turned into just another generic anime shonen space opera(PSU again was pretty much the same thing). What's more the combat is a bunch of fast-paced nonsense with very little in the form of tactics. Again PSO's combat was nothing amazing either, but at least the slower pace meant you had to properly position yourself and think out your attacks a bit more. PSO2 you just mindlessly flip all over the place and you're good; God forbid you're in a group.

Overall PSO2 just feels empty; like it either lost its soul or sold it to the weeb/Otaku audience. It's a shame really, PSO was truly a unique game.

>>389424628
Oh what's this then?
https://vid.me/KKq0q

>They are buffing every other class that got left behind by Hero on October. L2Read
"Balance Adjustments to Existing Classes for Late October’s Update:

Close-range weapon step distance improvement.
Step Attack pursuing ability improvement.
Movement type PA improvements.
Step Jump will also apply to Dive Roll.
Mirage Escape movement distance and turning ability improvement.
Improved the damage performance with normal attacks.
Reduced Hitstops (Aka Hit-Pause)
PP recovery performance improvement.
Buffed the power of certain PAs."

You call these "buffs"? Normal attack damage in a game where PA spam with 150+ PP pool is the meta?
Do you think SEGA will buff movement of rolling to be even remotely close to Flash Trick dashing?

Don't be a retard. Hero, this new Falz class, and everything after it will make current classes unplayable.

>>389414272
>best weeb MMO
Exactly why PSO went to shit.

It's sadly hilarious right now to remember PSO players getting pissed off at PSU's direction, how I would like to see their faces at PSO2's.

>>389414028
This game aside from a few things is missing all of what made pso great. This is a sequel in name only. Even portable 2 was more of a PSO game and they took liberty with a LOT in that game.

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>>389416675
>Really, if you want to see how bad it can truly be look at force and Bow braver
>look at force

Huh what? Are you pulling my leg or? I was around when mother was out and forces was the best by a long shot. Did they really kill the whale class?

>>389426079
The nerf was pretty bad, but Hero made it completely irrelevant.

>>389425529
Falz isn't a new class, it's something everyone will be able to use. But yeah they are planning to release another advanced class before ep6, they mentioned this in one of the streams.

>>389425529
That's not a new class lmao, that's some dumb anime transformation shit that every old class is going to have access to. Even then the moveset already look limited in variety, so don't expect much from that.

>>389414182
this.
sega broke my heart forever doing this.

>>389426079
They killed compound techs by giving them a 2 minute cooldown. They buffed all the rest of the techs, but without compounds, forces are left in the dust.

Hero also has better tech boost than FoTe using talis.
FoTe = 3.58
Hero = 3.6

Hero cannot use compound techs, but the tradeoff is you are a Hero and are fucking overpowered as well as being able to use techs stronger than FORCE TECHER while not having to deal with element tree bullshit.

Hero is bullshit.

>>389425572
Probably another strike why they never felt like releasing it here, does anyone think the massive normalfag audience PSO had would heavily be into what PSO2 is? They would just probably get nostalgic, pick it up, play it for a week/month and drop it, especially considering the competition in the same space as this game that didn't exist back then.
Meanwhile the otaku audience they are actually after with this game are probably already playing the Japanese version and likely never even heard of PSO before this, only ever having initial interest due to dress up or the thousands of anime collabs.

Can't say, I'll never get to play it.

doesn't the new class pretty much go full fucking Vergil or something

>>389427425
Full dante, complete with sword/twin guns.

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>We'll never ever get a PSO sequel

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>>389422818
>>389423516
>fashion info
>like button
>views
Guess I'm probably feeling what an old Fire Emblem fan feels at the current state of their series now.

>>389414272
That is an incredibly poorly drawn butt.

>>389414983
Yes outright, I mean the english site is still up saying the game is coming

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>>389414028
Not enough Lisa.

>>389414028
The anime.

>>389414182
I have no idea because Sega hates westerners and doesn't want me to play

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>>389415870
>Oh and that bug where the game would format your HDD if you uninstalled probably didn't help
what

having all your PAs be on 1 button and you just choose the order is fucking dumb, and since you use them more than normal attacks, in the end theyre just attacks with long ass animations and that alone makes the game drag no matter how flashy the animations are. sega also seems to completely clueless on what made item hunting in pso1 so good

>>389414028
PSO is the best game ever made. PSO2 is a waste of time as it could never even be half as good.

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>Summoner being boring as shit and only useful for Maron throwing
>Post-Mother Episode 4
>Episode 5
>Hero being broken making anyone who isn't a Techer or Gunner useless
>Affix powercreeping
>13 stars are generic beatsticks
>Non-EQ content becomes deprecated after a week
What else I'm missing?

>mfw destiny is the closest thing to pso2 we will ever get.

There is no face. There is only sadness.

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>>389428534
simple as that

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>>389428402
>>389427175
>>389426867
>>389414182
The game doesn't require any Japanese knowledge if you have a passing knowledge of PSO and can recognize little picture icons.

Also barring that the game is almost 100% fan translated including a fucking fan-made launcher that applies all the patches and anything else for you.

And there is an entire server filled with English players.

How does it feel knowing you missed out on the only years the game was actually kinda good because you were stubborn assholes who refused to adapt?

Japs get PSO2.

We get dauntless.

Checkmate.

>>389428505
Google it, nigger. Happened in 2013. Shit was hilarious.

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>>389428820
>Dauntless
Might as well play Frontier instead

>>389428505
sega litreally tried to uninstall ffxiv from peoples HDDs but fucked up somehow and it accidentally just formatted peoples HDDs, Sega gave away a bunch of free AC if you sent in a complaint that you had it happen to you

>>389429002
Shit. I forgot about that.

Touché.

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>>389429046
>sega litreally tried to uninstall ffxiv from peoples HDDs
Do you have a source for this? Isn't that basically illegal?

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>>389429046
>sega litreally tried to uninstall ffxiv
Holy shit and they got away with it by giving away AC as an apology? Oh wow, Sega are a bunch of douchebags.

>>389428762
I played it as soon as NA players could play it after launch. It's crap compared to PSO. One ofy favorite things about PSO was the music and PSO2 does not even come close. The level design is also no where near as good as the original.

>>389429147
>>389429209
https://bumped.org/psublog/pso2-jp-hard-drive-wiping-compensation/

I remember seeing an image floating around of the directories it tried to delete and one of them being the FFXIV game files folder but its been so long

>>389429286
It looks like it just wiped everything that's not PSO2 rather than FFXIV specifically.

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>>389429286
>>389429358

ah I found it http://www.pso-world.com/forums/showthread.php?212801-WARNING-Latest-PSO2-Update-may-cause-system-files-to-be-deleted

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I remember trying this game out for a couple weeks with a friend after it launched. After doing a couple quests we just ended up gathering people around to synchronize dances and socialize. It was a fun couple weeks, I stopped playing because school got really busy and never went back to it. The fact that there was no english patch at this time was also a factor.
I remember some people getting pissed off for some reason that there was a bunch of english speakers sitting around dancing.

>tfw that friend deleted me out of nowhere

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>mfw went to japan and theres advertisements for PSO2 everywhere, even the 7/11s

>>389414272
>All the hentai artists are playing it.

I don't care

HUcast is for the biggest of guys

Haven't played this game for a few years, last time I played I was a level 45 newman gunner and I think the game was on episode 2? Would I be fucked if I started playing again with the same account?