Steam

>pre-order
>pre-purchase
Why can't the industry decide?

Dude steam has like 12million people using it,

>>389389697
that's called marketing

>>389390315
Yeah, Activision is totally owned by Valve.

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Admit it, /v/, you want to play this despite all the whining you guys do about CoD.

IW was a top seller too, means absolutely nothing.
Hell, Nier Automata was a top seller for like a month.
>>389390219
Steam has over 100 million active accounts m8.

well it's not like kids buy whatever they think is cool, like battlegrounds or every call of duty game
i bet you played halo or some other shit when you were young and now just complain about new games you don't want to play

>>389389697
>people buy a game
>that means it's good
I really want to like WWII. The beta made me rethink buying it, I just don't think I want the old-school styled Call of Duty games anymore. I played a lot of MW and Black Ops but I really liked what AW and Blops 3 did, it was really refreshing (i know they pretty much went for what Titanfall did).

I don't know, it's really hard to go back to this style of game, it just feels too slow. I liked and still play Black Ops 2 but I guess the movement speed and map design has a lot to do with my enjoyment of it.

>>389391103

>over 100 million accounts

I thought it was around 64 million, either way, if it's a best seller already, /v/ just got BTFO.

>>389391563
Like I said, IW was also a top seller before release, it means absolutely nothing.
PCfags don't buy CoD, leave that shit for the consolefags.

>>389391563
>I thought it was around 64 million
you can say it because even faggots like me use 3 accounts and i haven't any market bots or something

>>389391674
So if PCfags don't buy CoD, how is it a bestseller on the largest PC game purchase site?

>>389392156
Because it doesn't take much to become a top seller for a week on Steam in early September.
Like I said, Nier was a top seller for a lot longer than WW2 will be.
Hell, even right now, Nier, on sale, is the number one top seller, and WW2 isn't even on the first page.

>>389389767
I think because pre-order is often associated with a bonus and usually is to "reserve" a copy.
While pre-purchase is literally just you giving them money early.

>>389391674
>PCfags don't buy CoD
I buy it solely for the zombies, honestly
shit's been my fucking jam ever since I first touched the mode way back when I played on console

>>389391563

Look at the best selling tab on any day. You'll find that almost nobody buys games on steam outside the holiday sales.

>>389389697
Steams top seller list isn't indicative of actual sales. Dragon Quest Heroes topped the charts but it sold like shit. So did the sequel.

>>389392537
The funniest part is that even including the free weekend numbers, Infinite Warfare has less owners on Steam than Nier Automata.

>>389393861
>So did the sequel.
To be fair, the sequel sold like shit everywhere outside of Japan.

>>389394208
But they both topped the charts and still sold like shit.

>>389393891
Is not surprising, CoD has been in steady decline on PC for years now. Neither of them sold a lot, but infinite warfare selling less than some niche weebshit fap bait game is pretty sad.

>>389394424
>>389393861
DQH2 wasn't a top seller actually.
https://www.pcinvasion.com/steam-top-sellers-30-april
Top sellers for that week were Outlast 2, PUBG, and DoW 3.

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>>389394607
It's because CoD hasn't really been a PC game since WaW.
Maaaayybe Black Ops 1 if you consider the server browser and "mod" """tools."""
BO3 kind of remedied this, but it was too little too late for the server browser.
At least the modded zombie maps are kind of fun.
But yea, modern CoD is a joke of a franchise and the only reason I bought BO3 was because it was cheap as fuck and I figured there'd be some decent modded maps to play.

>>389394870
DQH1 wasn't a top seller either.

>>389389697
I thought Activision would release all games in the blizzard app, since they did it for Destiny 2

>>389394870
>>389395827
DQH2 was on the chart, I remember seeing it there though it wasn't up for long.

>>389396268
I'm sure it was on the chart at some point for like a day, but it wasn't really a top seller.

>>389396417
But that's the point, it still charted yet aold like shit. Even then you can look at that list from PCinvasion. Outlast only sold 200k on steam.

>>389396641
>Outlast only sold 200k on steam.
But selling 200k isn't selling like shit.
DQH2 sold sub-30k, and I doubt it actually charted at all on the top sellers outside of the 2nd or 3rd page.

>>389396771
200k is fucking crap especially with an active userbase of over 50 million. I wish I took a screenshot but it was on the bottom portion of the first page for a day.

>>389394607
Well yeah, why would anyone want to play "minorities are valuable members of society and womyn are stronk!" meme games when they can play with a hot robot chick?

>>389397076
>200k is fucking crap especially with an active userbase of over 50 million.
Nigger, not every game has CoD-tier budgets, 200k is fine, especially considering it's a small-budget indie game.

>>389389697
Tell me /v/, why do you hate it?

>>389389697
I was going to get it but I noticed during the beta you get a movement speed penalty after landing from a jump and that really annoys me
Pretty sure the other games didn't do that

>>389395180
Nobody cares about server browsers on PC anymore

>>389397330
CoD?
Because it's boring, samey, and kind of shitty.
There haven't been any major changes to the formula since MW1.
The biggest additions were the movement systems in AW and BO3 (which was shit compared to Titanfall) and the scorestreak introduction.

NEVER
EVER

PRE-ORDER/BUY

ANYGAME

>>389389697
Question. Digital games don't sell out why the fuck would you prepurchase? Like preorder and get exclusive weapons. Sure a bit hollow but you're getting something. Now if the game came with a slightly lowered price for prepurchasing I'd understand. This just seems pointless

>>389397410
Well that's just objectively false.
Look at games like Arma, every Valve game, ARK, Civ (and most online RTS games in fact), etc. etc.
Big publishers don't care about server browsers because they want full control of what the players can do in their game because they're greedy.

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haven't bought cod ever since BO1 and never had desire for the new CoDs

Where the fuck is the appeal or is it really a game for just kids?

>>389389697
>Apologize for pre purchase now
Why would I apologize for that?

>>389397829
Kids and white trash fucking LOVE CoD.
They can pretend to be keyboard commandos without actually having a semblance of technical or tactical knowledge like the guys who play milsims like Arma.

>>389389697

>pink M1 Garand in multiplayer

what the fuck man, this is what's going to kill COD

>>389389767
If you order you don't necessarily have to purchase the item yet
It's like at a McDonald's: you can order a cheeseburger, but you purchase it when the money/burger exchange happens

>>389397252
It's shit, you delusional faggot, and I didn't mention comparing it to CoD sales. I don't know how much it cost to make and I don't know if they made their money back or not but 200k is not a lot of sales in any capacity. You can stay delusional all you want but that's the truth.

>>389398513
>and I didn't mention comparing it to CoD sales. I don't know how much it cost to make and I don't know if they made their money back or not but 200k is not a lot of sales in any capacity.
Nigger, for an indie game 200k sales is a fucking shit ton.
Most indie games have trouble breaking 50k on ANY platform.

>>389397635
All dead compared to PC games that don't have server browsers

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>>389398269
oh my sweet summer child

>>389398873
>>IT'S GOOD IF YOU LOOK AT IT THIS WAY UNDER THESE PARAMETERS
Pathetic. Outlast 1 sold almost 2 million copies, 2 only sold 200k and games aren't cheap anymore, especially when indie games can cost millions to make and market. Outlast 2 was a fucking flop, like it or not.

>>389397635
>every Valve game
CSGO's server brower is filled with idle servers and surf maps.
Everyone else just uses matchmaking.

>>389398885
Let's look at the popular PC games that don't have server browsers on Steam.
>PUBG (not counting custom games browser)
>GTA V
>Rainbow Six Siege
>Warframe
>H1Z1
And that's all for the top 15.

>>389399087
200k at ~$30 is over $4 million in revenue for the developer, and for an indie game that had little to no marketing, that's great.

>>389399184
99% of the community of dota 2 and cs:go don't use the server browser
Those games would still be played without them and would lose maybe a 1k players each
So yea the top 3 steam games don't rely on a server browser but matchmaking
But hey let's ignore that so it can seem like you have a point
The age of server browsing is long ago and so is the golden era of PC
Time to deal with reality kid

>>389399140
>CSGO's server brower is filled with idle servers and surf maps.
Why do people just make shit like this up?
Especially when it comes to an extremely popular game like CSGO?

>>389399429
>and so is the golden era of PC
i think that you might be retarded

>>389398436
>it's a food analogy

>>389399304
You forget thst they don't get all the money because of sales cuts and then you have to subtract whats left that from the costs to make and market the game
>little to no marketing
Okay, now I know you're just retarded. It sold like shit in comparison to the first snd outlast clearly has a noticeable budget. Keep trying to be delusional, its making me lauh like a fucking pig.

>>389399429
Nah, most games on PC still have browsers in some capacity, and the ones that don't are usually pretty shit (or console ports/indieshit).

>>389399605
>You forget thst they don't get all the money because of sales cuts and then you have to subtract whats left that from the costs to make and market the game
That $4 million figure takes into account the cut that Valve takes.
And Outlast 2's budget was likely sub-$3 million, especially considering it's an UE3 game.

>>389399572
No games like crysis 1 exist anymore
PC is a mutliplat machine for mostly shit ports these days and can't even be used to play mutliplayer games except for a select few that all PC users jump to
>>389399640
Most PC games are dead as well

>>389399843
>Most PC games are dead as well
Most video games in general are dead.

>>389399907
Not on consoles

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>>389400000
Nice quads.
But especially on consoles.
Console gamers barely play anything but the latest AAA sport/shooter game.

>>389400151
And PC gamers play nothing

>>389400251
Nah, PC gamers have pretty varied taste.
Only on PC will you ever see a game like Nier Automata outselling a CoD game.

>>389389697
Isn't this the game where the Nazis aren't really Nazis? So that our youth can play this and think that Nazis don't exist?

I'll stick with Allied Assault.

>>389400251
Let's see you play Microsoft Office 2016, OH WAIT.

>>389399775
Got a source on those dev costs and marketing budgets? You also seem to ignore that Outlast 2 was on sale this year. 200k is shit, deal with is faggot.

>>389400510
200k is shit for CoD, not for an indie game.
Sorry you're too stupid to accept this.

>>389400309
Nier sold more on PS4
So did COD
Nice retard logic
Also Nier is weebshit garbage, nothing to be proud of, no matter the platform
Again, at least consoles get games and they're alive, unlike PC which gets dead ports

>>389399584
His actually works though.

>>389390501
nope. as soon as i saw women in this game dropped all interest immediately. best cod = cod2

>>389400624
>Again, at least consoles get games and they're alive
Nah, consoles only get AAA trash like CoD, and they're the only games with an active playerbase on consoles.
And the occasional port of a popular PC game like ARK.

>>389400615
200k is shit in general, Outlast isn't your average insensitive game you pathetic retard. It not only sold like dogshit in comparison to the prequel but it sold like dogshit in general AND was on sale. You still haven't given me a source for the dev and marketing costs. I'm waiting.

>>389400624
I mean, everybody here enjoys weebshit, even you. Why even bring it up?

>>389400804
Sent the source to your 4chan inbox :)

>>389400857
Speak for yourself weeaboo.

>>389400804
>insensitive
Not surprised that a phone poster is a retard.
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2015-06-19-the-average-game-on-steam-sells-only-32-000-copies
In 2015 the average Steam game sold 3200 copies, so Outlast 2 sold 5x more than average.

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>>389400914
>weeb calling other people weeaboo

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>>389400914
Look where you are, then go back to plebbit.

>>389400624
Nier may be weeb but its not garbage. get over yourself

>>389400938
Not a phone poster, just a really bad typo. My point still stands, delusional idiot.
>now he's moving the goalpost
Pathetic. Like I said, outlast isn't your average indieshit game.
>it sold 5x more than average
Yeah, and you seem to ignore that it also cost a shit ton more. Those games that you're comparing it to are shit like FotM weeb shit from japan or literally who indie games that cost pennies and nickles to make. I'm still waiting for those numbers, retard.

>>389401167
>Like I said, outlast isn't your average indieshit game.
Outlast is an above average indie game with above average sales.
>Yeah, and you seem to ignore that it also cost a shit ton more.
Got a source for that?

>>389401085
>nier isn't garbage
KEK, nice one faggot. Maybe you should actually play it some time instead of fapping to 2B all day.

>>389401254
You're trying to actually tell me that Outlast didn't cost more to make than some RPGmaker game from japan? Are you seriously trolling me right now mother fucker?

>>389400746
That's not how you spell Black Ops

>>389401352
Is that supposed to be a source?

@389401258
[yOu]

>>389395180
BO3 actually has a server browser now?
Might be fun.

>>389389697

>People are dumb

This has been known ever since man could record history

>He thinks his post on a mongolian water painting forum matters

>>389401463
>get BTFO badly
>start shitposting my using my argument
>all while moving goalposts and not giving me the source from his supposed 3 million dev cost+marketing statement
Glad to see you admited defeat.

>>389401258
I wouldn't say it's garbage but it's mediocre at best.

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>>389401650
>Outlast sold like shit!
>Nah, it sold better than the average indie game
>But it cost a lot!
>Where's your source?
>F-FUCK YOU, THAT'S *MY* ARGUMENT!

>>389401517
>not an argument

>>389400751
Wrong again PC cuck

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>>389401865
It's pretty true actually.
And unlike you, I've posted stats and sources that back this up.

>>389401804
>OUTLAST 2 SOLD GREAT
>not really, it sold like shit. especially if you compare it to the prequel. And we can tell it's not your average RPG maker game so it obviously has a higher budget and noticeably gets marketed a lot more
>no faggot the game cost less than 3 million and sold a lot
>source?
>BUT IT'S AN INDIE GAME SO IT OBVIOUSLY COST POCKET CHANGE TO MAKE GIVE ME A SOURCE PROVING OTHERWISE
And now you're posting smug reaction images with an anime girl instead of having an actual argument. Top laughs anon. I know you're just ass blasted at getting BTFO. It's okay.

>>389400000
quints checked

>>389402037
Your words don't change reality
It's well known that PC gaming is for mutliplats now, that's about it
Oh and early access trash too I guess

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>>389402047
>Outlast sold like shit, I know because I know how much every game costs to make despite posting no source, RPGmaker games are cheap therefore every indie game is just as cheap
>O-Outlast 2 was a flop, f-fuck you!

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>>389402210
>more anime reaction images without actually giving arguments

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>>389402140
Nah, consoles are pretty much nothing but multiplat machines outside of Nintendo, and again, unlike you, I have the stats to back that statement up.
Sorry anon, console gaming is on its way out, replaced by mobile and PC.

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>Caring about Nazi Zombies in 2017
Just play Killing Floor 1 or 2. Both of the games are infinitely better than CoD Zombies.

>>389402329
>replaced by mobile and PC
Nice delusions man

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>>389402418
I mean...
And we all already know that handhelds were utterly raped by mobile.

>>389390501
>MP is STILL grindy korean MMO tier
not really, will buy it for 5 bucks 6 years from now for the SP though

>>389402473
Three words for you
Not an argument