What element is objectively the most fun in any video game?
Lightning
>>389384792
I find that a Mixture of Shadow/Life magic for undeath and immortality is often the most fun, both thematically, and pragmatically. Where my Death Knights at?
>>389384792
I've always liked poisony shite, makes me feel all sneaky and shit.
>>389384792
Darkness, call me a edge lord but its pretty cool, i find Light magic to be defensive and reactive instead of proactive
>>389384792
>Ice and water are different "elements"
>"Thunder" is actually lightning
Why do games do this.
>>389384792
Ice is literally water, get that shit out of here and make a pentagram with five elements.
Then make a triangle in the middle with light, dark and something else.
No, I refuse to answer your question, because "objectively the most fun" is horseshit and you know it.
>>389385548
>poisony shite
this. Poison/Acid stuff is my thing.
>>389384792
Melee.
Pews are all gay as fuck and have zero skill involved.
>>389384792
Ice is not an element, you fucking retard. Neither is light or darkness. Its life and death. So fucking sick of stupid fucking Japanese pieces of shit completely misinterpreting the elements. We shouldn't have let them surrender.
>>389385603
Thunder sounds cool to say and lightning sounds gay.
>>389384792
I'm a fire fag. I just like when everything explodes and burns.
I think wind has the most interesting potential applications (you could oxegenate water or create air bubbles to freely explore underwater, use a strong air bubble to counteract high pressures, create tornadoes and blow out flames/strengthen them if you wish, it'd be cool.
In vidya I always find Earth most fun. Since the elements have to be balanced to a certain degree, you can't do all that crazy shit with wind, and earth is the least magic missiley of the four primary elements.
>>389385741
You're retarded. Here's the original alchemical elements:
Aether air, earth, fire, and water -- also mercury and sulphur.
I'm eternally 12 years old so I always pick the dark element without fail when available. Though I rarely actually play like an evil dick ironically.
Edgy powers are just kewl.
>>389386081
>no carbone
Ok.
>>389386081
this, where is my alchemy game.
>you will never have the sulphury sun copulate with the mercurial moon in order to achieve the rebis that is the basis for the Grand Oeuvre....
What would sound count as? Thunder isn't an element, it's a byproduct of lightning which is itself a byproduct of the wind element.
I think I have the answer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XS49Dazin3E
>>389384792
>FFXI
>:(
So many good times.
>>389386232
It would be a boring game.
You'd spend your time trying to feed people forge-purified mercury hoping it's a panacea or trying to turn shit into gold.
If something is not on fire you're not trying hard enough.
>>389385605
>that comfy part
Literally cancerous image
pls delete
>>389384792
Darkness becauset they get the cool shit
>>389384792
Ice because it tends to be the most annoying with top tier griefing potential.
>>389386513
>this image of a guy doing a cool stunt will now forever be sullied by self-hating neckbeards getting in a quick meme
Fuck you all. I have never seen anyone even wear a fedora.
time
>>389384792
Dark gets the best moves in Pokemon, Foul Play, Knock Off, Sucker Punch, Parting Shot, Snarl, all fun.
>>389386892
Fedora went from "overtly edgy" to "has opinion I don't like and is therefore ugly" really fucking fast.
>>389386238
Sound isn't an element, it's a tag you can put on spells of several elements.
>>389386957
>3 ghosts + tank
>>389384792
>water and ice are separate elements
>>389387113
pretty spooky indeed
>>389384792
How exactly does Ice beat Wind?
>>389384792
Dragon.
Either lightning or frost.
I like kiting and both elements usually have stuns or snare abilities.
>>389384792
this is the dumbest elemental chart
>>389386424
It wouldn't since alchemy covers more than the practical "chemistry" side. It could very well integrate Gnosis stuff and kabbalah angels/demons + hermeticism.
best element, Eldritch, coming through.. stand aside alchemy fags.
>>389387071
I'd argue gravity should be an element
It's probably the most important force in our universe
>>389384792
Does this fit?
most damage: lightning/fire
most slow: Ice/earth
most dot: dark/fire
most buffs: light/fire
most heals: light/earth
most control: water/dark
most range: lightning/light
most melee: fire/earth
most middle: water/earth
Watcha think?
>>389387286
A better game would be a game where you carry out your alchemical murder experiements at your alchemy practice and keep from being burnt at the stake.
>>389385603
Start thinking of ice and fire as heat and cold, it makes more sense.
>>389384792
Assuming that darkness is also that "Spectral" thing with those weird purple and black energy spells, vortices and all that shit, it's my favorite.
I generally don't like the 4 classic oldschool elements and prefer the weird arcane stuff but if I have to use them, I find wind/lightning to be the most fun.
>turn off the lights
>HOLY SHIT I'M USING DARK MAGIC
dark and lights aren't elements, fuck off
>>389387860
Well some games use it, you can also name them life and death. They are still used for their own character design like elementals.
>>389387860
>Turn on tap
>HOLY SHIT I'M USING WATER MAGIC
>Light match
>HOLY SHIT I'M USING FIRE MAGIC
>Stick fork in a toaster
>BRZBRBZZBRZZZZ
why is it darkness shit is either op or useless as shit in games?
>>389387505
You know, this actually makes a lot of sense and the first time I've heard a logical argument for this.
>>389388593
Because a lot of the time it's based around instant death and status effects, a lot of games don't know how to balance around that stuff and tend to just make them useless in most situations.
>>389384792
Earth.
>>389384792
>What element is objectively the most fun in any video game?
Depends really. It really is just up to just how imaginative a game lets one be with the abilities from each tree
>>389384792
I usually like using both water and earth spells and shit whenever I can, especially when water spells include healing.
Depends on the setting.
>>389384792
FIST.
>>389384792
gravity
>>389389637
>It's a game where fire is the only good element for damage.
>Earth is for defense, water for healing, ice for slow aoe, thunder for shitty aoe damage, air for dodge buffs
Lightning is always the best
>>389388318
>>389385603
Well if you want to be anal about it, thunder is just noise and lightning is just light. Electricity is the actual source of it all.
>>389384792
Frost is the dad element, dads use it and people who like to take it slow and steady and just have a comfy time.
It isn't the most fun though.
Things moving is fun. So wind is up there.
That's all for my analysis because I'mma eat.
>>389385603
>>Ice and water are different "elements"
Because water doesn't have to be cold.
>>389384792
>objectively
see as how every game does them differently and every game royally fucks over at least one element.
there is none.
>when done right
Wind > Ice/ Earth > Water/ nature > the rest
>when done magic missile tier
>fire/ darkness > ice > rest
>>389386081
>mercury and sulphur
Why am I so annoyed that this element list has actual elements in it?
>>389390404
>>389384792
I always hate these element wheels because they almost always end up portraying at least one element or interaction between them badly. How exactly does Ice beat Air, or how does Air beat Earth and not the other way around? You can argue that erosion is a thing, but if we're going there, Ice, Water, and even Fire would be far more potent erosive forces than Air.
>>389384792
NOT EVERYONE CAN SURVIVE THE TRIALS BY FIRE
>all the nitpicking and bickering over shit like thunder and ice/water
>Not even mentioning that none of these are elements
Literally find any of these on a periodic table
>>389385819
This.
Fire element stuff usually has the most satisfying effects/sounds too.
>>389390836
how to spot a massive faggot is one easy step
>>389384792
The gameplay element
>>389391024
Yeah, Ctrl f (You)
>fire
I want to have fun
>lightning
craaaaawling in my skin
>ice
I want to be comfy
>earth
I want to be comfy, but I lift and I'm not a twink like Icefag
>shadow
these wounds they will not heal
>wind
I want to have fun, but I also want attention
>>389384792
>earth is poison and def buff only
>>389390836
>What are classical elements.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_element
>bitching about fictional world in a game
Nobody can fucking shoot fire out of their fingers but that doesn't disturb you? Would it be better if the shot helium?
>>389390836
>>389390836
What a nerd
>>389388318
Why am I laughing so hard at this?
>>389384792
Time
>>389384792
I generally try out Earth elements first, but many games don't do it justice. So then I just go with fire because it almost always has the best shit.
The only "real" elements are Electricity, Ice and Fire
what are some games with fun magic?
>>389384792
Conflicted between Wind, Earth, and Fire.
Completely agree with this guy >>389390236
Wind is just always a welcome ability to have because it will almost always gives you the ability to be speedy as fuck, speed through landscape to cover more terrain, teleporting/flying, and gusting people to move away from you. It's just an overall great element in games.
Earth is great because it's always associated with power, and impenetrability/survivability. The elemental for Earth casters always hits home with me with Myconids, rock monsters, or growing mounds of dirt.
>>389391958
The only "real" elements are algebraic truth values
>>389384792
>thunder
so what, i deafen them?
Semen, of course
>>389392032
>Conflicted between Wind, Earth, and Fire.
I'm conflicted about how much I like their songs.
>>389386196
Pretty much this.
gravity
Void is the coolest, but when it's gravity magic and not pure darkness nonsense.
>>389384792
>come in hoping this is an FFXI thread
>it isn't
ohwell
>fire
children and faggots
>earth
stoners
>wind
hyperactive pricks
>water
wimminz and actual homosexuals
>darkness
ironic edgelords
>light
deus vult faggot
>ice
boring and generic
>thunder
hyperactive prick vol. 2 but they're children too
Why are main characters never Ice? They're usually Thunder, Fire, or Light. Sometimes Earth or Wind. Dark if they're edgy. They're never Water, that's always like the healer chick or something, but I can see why water sounds unimpressive. But why not Ice?
>>389392927
>water
>wimminz and actual homosexuals
Fuck I cannot argue with this.
>>389391806
because you're from reddit
>>389392927
>>389393032
All known life is mostly liquids
>>389393205
that's not an excuse to swallow cum by the bottle
>>389385556
>when you get aggresive, offensive orientated light spells in a game
hnghhh
>>389393205
>being a carbon based lifeform
kek
>>389393358
>light
>fires lasers as attack
>>389384792
desu warframe has the best elements with the best effect procs from each one. Just wish it had content.
>>389389046
It's because everyone already knew it anon. This is where you realise you're that angry guy who comes into threads and shouts for no reason
>>389393497
Gas is fucking junk and no one uses electric for anything outside of Volt
>>389393497
>gas
*BRAAAAAAAAP!*
>>389384792
I would like light more if it wasn't just the healing element
give me lasers and invisibility
>>389393685
*BRAAAAAAAAP!* indeed.
>>389385252
fpbp
Both mechanically and aesthetically, lightning-based magic is always king. The feeling of passing judgement on degenerates faster than the speed of light can't be beat.
>>389385603
Thunder has etymologically roots with Thor and Lightning refers to the LIGHT produced.
>>389393497
Is Corrosive+Radiation still the best combo? I stopped playing last year.
Earth is best
Fire is LAME
Water is super cool
Wind and lightning are great
Light is 90% of the time lame, 10% of the time fucking outstanding
Darkness is fun if it isn't about edgy nonsense or just pure numbers
I am the smartest and best boy so this is all true.
>>389390182
What fucking game has Hot Water as a move besides Pokemon?
>>389394031
You can't even make that combo unless the weapon has innate electricity in it. I think you mean corrosive + explosive and thats because you don't have to think or work on your weapons depending on the situation. It does damage against everything pretty decently but its not the highest damage you can do. It's for lazy people who don't want to swap guns. Not like you have to actually min max to clear content its only for meme shit like wave 100 imaginary content.
>>389387860
By that logic neither is ice
>>389385603
Water is stereotyped as the "wimpy" element and ice is always used as it's substitute to be the polar opposite of fire in fantasy.
>>389384792
>no game will have as deep of an elemental system as FFXI
FUCK THIS GAY EARTH
>>389384792
>pick Light
>it's basically Holy
>all abilities have a gold/white glow to them
>no colors apart from that
Lux in LoL is honestly one of my favourite portrayals of a light-element attacker. There should be more opportunities in vidya to obliterate your enemies with a rainbow cannon.
>>389393143
>having fun is reddit
the absolute state of /v/
>>389384792
Thunder because it's fire but cooler
>>389393497
>Magnetic
>Radiation
>Viral
Now that's some pretty fresh flavor.
Earth because it counters everything
>>389395923
fun is a buzzword for when you can't explain why you're enjoying yourself
>>389387362
This, fucking powers of the occult and arcane. Whenever possible, I go cosmic.
>>389387434
gravity would just fall underelectricity
>>389384792
Explosions element.
>>389386232
Play Pokémon Sun/Moon.