This is it my friends. They completely lost it. Jade druid has

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>playing Hearthstone

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>Still playing Hearthstone

Fable Fortune is literally a better version of Hearthstone in every possible way. Sadly it's only on version 0.4 and isn't set to release for awhile.

Literally play any other card game. I wasted hundreds of dollars on Hearth since it started, but it obviously isn't going to get better.

Play anything else, just stop playing Hearthstone. Here are some personal suggestions;

Fable Fortune
Shadowverse
Hex
Card Monsters
Eternal
Faeria

Hex was only broken when tunnel trog was an issue

Innervate change killed the card

They should have never changed murlocs from buffing all murlocs. It was such a stupid dumbing down of the tribe

>>389379170
>big entrance
The best part of all these new card games is seeing the creators struggle with coming up with all the terminology for their game that's different from all the others.

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>>389378896
YES
FUCKING FINALLY
WARRIORS GO SUCK A COCK

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>389379757
Ah yes the warriors thats the issue, clearly a nerf that was needed very quickly.

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>>389379828
EVERYTHING'S FINALLY COMING UP BITCHES

ARE YOU READY FOR A MIRACLE

>>389379757
>t. Malfurion

>>389378896
>anymore
They never did, dude. Weird that the druid nerfs don't hit jade that hard, just innervate and unleash the scarabs.

>>389378896
I thought there was a cute witch on a broom from the thumbnail, but it was just some axe.

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>>389378896
>Jade Idol is still a broken piece of shit
>Ultimate Infestation is still a broken piece of shit
>Druid STILL has ramp out the ass and can get 5 more mana crystals than you at turn 5

This fixes nothing, if anything it makes it worse!
Thank fucking god I abandoned this shitstain before Un'Goro!

>>389379170
Is Fable Fortune any good? Kinda interested in a game where you barely pay attention, just want something for background noise really.

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>>389378896
who's a "shitty fiery war axe" now? wahahaha

>Face Hunter nerfed to death since 2015
>Buhu don't nerf warrior, playing a 30 min match and running out of cards is fun

>>389378896

Is that fucking real?

Are they trying to delete every good Basic card from the game that's not a Mage class card?

>>389380215
Should have seen it coming from long before that with blizzard's balancing policy for all their games desu.

>>389378896
>playing a blizzard game
>2017

>>389378896

pirate warrior lost some oomph.

as a quest singleton dragon priest, i'm pleased

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>>389378896
>Jade's LITERALLY UNTOUCHED
>AND ITS COUNTERS ARE NERFED INSTEAD

I know we joke about Blizzard balancing but, wow. I genuinely don't know what to say.

>>389380395
>oh no, all these free cards are good
>can't have that goy

>>389380767

they got nerfed. they have to wait till turn 4 to use Ultimate Infestation instead of turn 3 now

any other changes? i kinda miss the brainless gameplay of hearthstone

>>389380728
You a dumb rank 15 player, that's why you're pleased.
The fewer there are aggro decks, the more unstoppable (read: more popular) jade druid becomes. The more popular jade druid becomes, the bigger the shit control decks are in.

I was playing Hearthstone but I quit with the new expansion. It's pretty clear they expect you to spend a ton of money to get the one meta deck and I'm not okay with that.

>>389380767

It was never a joke. Blizzard "balancing" has a been a dead serious problem for at least a fucking decade if not more.

Cry more pirate warrior faggots. Booohooo my widdle war axe is nerfed! Get fucked.

>Dropped this shit before Mean Streets
>Now blow all my cash on EDH

Thank fucking god

>>389381050
->
>>389380949

>>389381050
this is your average hearthstone player.

too dumb to understand anything beyond first level of consequences, they are driven by skinner boxes instead of the prospects of making meaningful choices to overcome opponents

>>389380767
name one time blizzard ever had a balanced game
they just cant do it

>>389380949
Your a fucking shieldbearer moron if you don't think the innervate nerf is going to seriously hurt jade druid.

>not being elder scrolls legends master race already

it's the future you chose hearthcucks

>>389381198

ToS class balance in WoW isnt terrible. Probably the best Blizz has done in years but thats not saying much.

>>389381208
It doesn't solve the "infinite value" issue for jade druid, you dumb fuck.

>>389381208
It's not enough.

Instead of nerfing innervate into worthlessness, why didn't they just balance the retarded fucking broken ass cards they introduced with the latest expac?

It's because blizzard are greedy fucks that don't care about quality anymore and milk every stupid fuck that still plays this broken ass game

>>389379170
It'll get bogged down by power creep eventually. They all do.

>>389381163
>>389381129
Oh no! Pirate warrior gets a nerf! The horror! What will the game be like without being able to cheese the ladder to rank 5 in a week!

>Hex nerfed

What the actual fuck. There was one competitive shaman deck and it was shenanigans anyway.

>>389381630

probably to bring it in line with Polymorph

>>389381301
>Not being Eternal master race already

How does it feel to be 2dumb?

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>>389378896
How do they even manage to get new players while doing shit like this? I don't understand.

>>389381547
>he thinks pirate warrior is somehow a problem in the current meta
>his point is refuted
>he makes a stupid strawman argument that does nothing to address the issues raised because of blind and shortsighted hatred of an aggro deck

your typical hearthstone player, folks

>>389381413
>I try to play skulking giess on curve and it doesnt work what the fuck nerf jade idol!
I mean I hate druid stone as much as the next guy but people like you just fucking suck at hearthstone

>>389381547

Because Pirate Warrior got fucked hard in Ugoro you stupid shitstain.

Meanwhile Druid has like a 60% playrate in a game with 9 fucking classes.

>>389381749
Pirate warrior has been a problem in every meta since its introduction. Is this your first season playing stupid faggot?

>>389381698
both games are by direwolf digital so I will take my tes coat of paint

>>389381413
But infinite value is part of the identity of the deck.
The point is they're supposed to beat other greedy control decks.
So they made it harder to stall and get to that infinite value so that midrange actually has a chance.

>>389381749

yes. pirate warrior isn't a problem when you can have 4 3/7 taunts on turn 4

>>389381790
>fucked hard in ungoro
>never left tier one for more than a week
Haahhaha holy shit do you even play this game you fucking retarded child?

>>389381865

It was a big problem in Mean Streets then Ungoro basically destroyed it between Tar Creeper and OUT OF MY JUNGLE

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>>389381865
>stupid faggot
>ignores statistics, possibly because he is incapable of understanding them

>>389381790
Any deck that gets nerfed for 3 expansions in a row and doesnt die is cancer. You trying to justify that Jade is more cancerous than pirate doesn't mean you aren't still a problem. All Hyper-aggro players need to be put down a hole and buried deep in the earth.

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all the card changes for you people not wanting to search
>Innervate
Now reads: Gain 1 Mana Crystal this turn only. (Down from 2)
>Fiery War Axe
Now costs 3 mana. (Up from 2)
>Hex
Now costs 4 mana. (Up from 3)
>Murloc Warleader
Now reads: Your other Murlocs have +2 Attack. (Down from +2 Attack, +1 Health)
>Spreading Plague
Now costs 6 mana. (Up from 5)
would have liked some more changes desu

>Overstate the importance of polymorph effects to justify nerfing Hex during a season that Shamans are primarily taking it in the ass through
>Don't touch Mages and their multiple Polymorph effects they can draw multiple copies of with dumbass discovery cards

So THIS is where World of Warcraft's old balance team ran off to, they just can't keep those Mage/Druid cocks out of their mouths

>>389381968

>Druid accounting for over 60% of the played classes
>huge winrate
>Blizzard nerfs a warrior card for an archtype that had plenty of counters printed
>People pissed Blizzard arent addressing the Druid problem
>LMAO DUDE SOMEONES MAAAAAAD UMAD PIRATE WARRIOR UMAD?

Youre dumb as a doorstop if you cant see why people are livid about this patch

>>389382134

was murloc paladin really that potent?

>Hex

as an evo shaman player, i'm sorta sad as i ran 2 of them. i might switch to earth shock

I don't play Hearthstone but this really shouldn't be surprising to anyone. The only time a Blizzard game was remotely balanced was a complete fucking fluke.

>>389382016
You are so obviously an aggro shitter it hurts, if the retarded devs didn't make Druid so OP pirate warrior would at the top of the list like it had been sitting for the last two expansions. You and your faggots war axe can eat my shit.

>>389382359
Murloc nerf was one expansion fucking late. All Murloc Paladin does now is punish Jade Druid, and Blizzard CANNOT HAVE THAT.

>>389382259
>Blizzard nerfs two druid cards with the first and third most statistical winrates
>not addressing the druid problem

>>389382101

>MSoG
>3 expansions

What the fuck am I reading

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>>389378896
>tfw you don't play Druidstone

playing RNGstone in 2017
what are you fucking retarded?
Card games in a lot of cases depend on luck, sure.
But having so many fucking cards that aside from that have some RNG element or making it so most decks require a specific set of cards in your hand to work is fucking retarded

>>389382259
Because unlike you I have been playing long enough to realize how obnoxious pirate warrior is. If you really don't think this innervate nerf isn't going to wreck druid then go ahead and screencap this so you can be angry at yourself for being such a retard.

>>389379006
this tbqh

>>389382442

Yes wow what great nerfs to cards no one gave a shit about. Have fun still getting your ass fucked by infinite Jades, tokens buffing up and wrecking you faster than any Pirate, and Ultimate Infestation being one of the most busted cards ever printed

Fuck off

>>389378896
This is quit HS long fucking ago.

>>389382359
it seems like they are really stomping aggro decks

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>>389382431
>t. Rank 15 shitter who can't counter aggro

>>389382431
I haven't played this game since pirate warrior was actually good, ironically. Probably a few expansions ago. But, it's funny how mad you are at a deck that isn't even that good.

Druid is just a symptom of a bigger problem, though, which is that blizzard has no idea what the fuck it is doing.

Have fun playing your coinflip card game though.

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didnt the hungry geist fix the jade problem?

>>389382442
>first and third most statistical winrates
WHEN PLAYED.

The denominator they used was they had the highest winrates when the cards were PLAYED.

That means every Druid/Priest match where Spreading Plague ate hand space all day against their 0/1 minions at a time was discounted.

Every smart midrange player who kept their board compact to play around the card was discounted.

With Innervate that type of data doesn't matter because most of the time it will find a use and be played, but Spreading Plague is an extremely situational card when you want any real value from it, and the times you do play it (primarily as a stopper to aggro) it is at a very high potential value. It is not as good as they pretended it was, and it was just a save face nerf to keep Jade Druid more or less untouched in its primary tools.

>>389382631
People have been complaining nonstop about spreading plague since the card was revealed.
People may not complain about innervate, but invisible power still needs to be addressed.

>>389379170
No gwent? Slavestone is actually fun though it is quite harder than heartstone.

>I expect balance in a blizzard game!

are you dumb in the head?

>>389382631
>get proved wrong
>f-fuck off
Typical hearthstone player

Why can't blizzard do me a favor and nerf every fucking Murloc so I can dust my now literally worthless deck

Fucking garbage

>>389382431

>2 of the best neutral taunts ever printed in Ungoro
>Almost every class got an amazing sticky taunt in UG or Knights
>Fit in almost every deck
>I-if it w-wasnt for d-druid pirates would be problematic!

Stop sniffing glue

>>389382763

jade idol only comes into play in long matches. modern jade druid is turbo ramping to 10 mana at turn 5 and using UI, which gets them their hand back from ramping so quickly

Hungry Geist fucks over priest, some warriors and evo shaman much more than jade druid

>>389382850
Murloc Paladin is a T1 Deck

>>389382457
Pirate aggro was a thing long before patches anon.

>>389382695
I can guarantee my rank is higher than yours ever season. Pirate warrior is THE shitter deck. It's been proven time and time again. It's pretty ironic you are calling me a shitter while defending fucking pirate warrior lmao

>>389382832

See

>>389382771


Idiot

>Blizzard STILL has no idea how to fucking balance multimillion dollar game franchises

I have no idea how these incompetent faggots keep making money. Let me fix the game right now with a single card change:

>Skulking Geist now destroys all cards with '1' in their mana value.

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>>389378896
>Nerf Hex a card that hasn't even been used since Devolve was printed
>Nerf Murloc pally and Pirate warrior to the ground the only decks capable of beating Jade Druid
>UI and Jade Idol untouched

Blizzard is legitimately retarded.

>>389382748
If you haven't played for a few expansions then why the fuck are you responding to me dumb shieldbearer?

>>389383007

It wasnt anywhere near tier 1 though

>>389382971
You mean a T 1-expansion-ago deck.

>>389383019

>he plays standard or wild

sniping Kripp in arena is the pinnacle of hearthstone play

>>389383019
I did not defend pirate warrior, I told you there is plenty of easy counters who don't even hurt your deck.
So filled with rage that reading comprehension fails you?

>>389383037
A card that situationally has to sit in your hand is worse than one that you can play for a 1/5 without fatiguing you dumb fucking idiot. Just stop posting.

>>389383238
Remember to Primordial Glyph a Meteor for his trump card play or Pyroblast for lethal in order to bring him one step closer to the rope.

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>all these shitters comparing who plays the "best" retarded version of magic

>>389382960
and there is nothing you can do against that?

card wow is now like real wow where druids just do whatever the fuck they want.

>>389383092
>>389383092
>>389383092
>>389383092
>>389383092

this x1000. good thing i stopped playing this shit card game. boycott blizzard

>>389383092
They gave reasons why they didnt nerf UI.
UI is a powerful card because these druid fuckers dump their hand to get to 10 mana then can play UI on turn 5.
With the innervate nerf, this pretty much guarantees an extra turn before UI comes out.
Jade idol follows a similar pattern because the card is really only powerful at the end of the game, which come a turn later now.

>>389383314
All I did in this thread was laugh over the faggot war axe nerf, which apparently made you really butthurt. Maybe you should reread the reply chain you dumb nigger.

>>389379006
fpbp

>>389383432

ramp effects are spells and or battlecries, so no, not really.

face aggro stands the best chance against it, but the druid would still need a bad hand

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>tfw Greed Priest, Handlock and jade Druid will rampage through legend for next few months

>>389379960
Jade druid has >50% winrate against warrior anyway

>>389383445
>Warriors get absolutely demolished with nerfs constantly
>Priests are just kinda there, although strong when properly utilized
>Paladins are allowed to be broken for one patch every year before getting shoved back in the cuck shed
>Druids and Mages get all of the best tools and never nerfed because they are the dev favorites
>Warlocks and Hunters are completely ignored

It really is just like arena.

>>389383568

>greed priest

I want to believe. Don't have the dust

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>playing Blizzard: The Card Game when Shadowverse is sweeping the planet

TOP KEK

>>389379170
>Hex

LOL!

>>389378896
????
for what purpose blizzard

>>389383545
huh okay thanks for responding
im playin a sort of buff paladin right now and ive been doing okay so far but maybe all the druids are at higher ranks

>>389378896
They will never nerf fiery war axe

Add new minion types

>>389382885
Pirate warrior was tier 1 through all of ungoro fucking retard.

>>389381198
Brood war accidentally. Completely serious

Genuine question:

Has there EVER been a single well-done balance patch from Blizzard? Includes all of their games.

>>389383964
Absolutely not. But people who actually understand the game realize that this patch has good potential to return the game back to that ungoro sweet spot.

>>389383964
Only the patch they released that removed the real money auction house from Diablo 3

>>389382359
Murloc pally is the 2nd strongest aggro deck
Used to be before today, at least

>>389378896
They didn't know what they were doing with this cancerous piece of shit joke from the very beginning.

Even fucking yu-gi-oh is a million times more complex and skill oriented than this trash.

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Does anyone play krosmaga? It's fun.

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think its possible to run a deck with nothing but waifus in it?

>>389379170
>wasted money on this shit
>especially hundreds of dollars

Than you don't get to say jack shit, you fucking spoiled piece of shit. You are part of the problem. Whales like you are exactly why this shit exists in the first place.

>>389384154
Yugioh is 2 person solitaire

>>389382568
>plays an even worse clone
I couldn't handle this game after Wonderland anymore. I played this game from the very start and sunk a gorillion hours into this game, but Wonderland showed me there was no hope for this game.

>>389384272
>spoiled piece of shit
Some of us have these crazy things called jobs anon, and this even crazier thing called DISPOSABLE INCOME

lol @ people still playing hearthstone. Duelyst is superior in every way.

>>389384408
Besides that it's dead

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>Nerf Quest Rogue because it's oppressive to Control decks
>Keep Jade Idol the same despite it doing the same thing as Quest Rogue
>Also nerf all it's counters in the same patch.

>>389383964
I think the first few months of warlords of draenor was kinda ok. Someone back me up if I'm wrong or not, I just remember the first season of WoD to be enjoyable.

>>389383085
>Literally annihilating one of Hunter's decks with a single card
Super fair

>buying digital cards
>buy better cards to win
If you fell for this meme you deserve the shitty game. (in packs of 5 cards lmfao)
MTG is better and there are plenty of ways to play with all the cards for free.

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heart attack for me

>>389384534

Hunters would have the quest completed by turn 6

>>389384564

nice pack. now you can be mommy jaina and step on people

I really like playing Unholy in PvP but I just really want new abilities and my pet AI to stop being fucking garbage like it has been for the past 3 years. I'd prob come back to WoW if blizzard fixed that.

>>389384494
Blizzard literally makes up reasons on the spot for nerfs

>Nerfs Warsong Commander because of how little counterplay there is to charge minions
>Releases Quest Rogue, an archetype that centered around swarming and recycling 1 mana 5/5 charges

>>389384550
You could get to legend for free within a few weeks last season, not sure about this season though.

>>389384674
for some reason i had a stroke and thought this was a wow thread, forgive me anons

>>389384534
Oh sorry, spells*

>>389384639
You can coin it out or ramp it up with druid and get it on turn 5 or lower.

>>389383913

Not really.

Also they completetly destroyed Control Warrior and my spirit to play their game, i was giving it a chance on this exp because it was a really good theme and cards like the lich king and defile seemed cool.

But this and ungoro just killed my interest, printing OP cards that rely solely on RNG like discover and evolve was pure shit, shittiest expansions ever, but killing 2 classes because 1 archtype of a deck that's more of a problem because of the pirate archetype they pushed into us? Fuck them

Fuck blizzard. Someone call WOTC and tell them to stop being jews.

>>389384724
Yeah and I can buy a dollar deck of cards and have more fun playing poker with real people.

Blizzard makes a new MMO, point blank do you give it a chance yes or no?

>>389380395
Yes. Making classic set permanent was a mistake so they are working down the list to nerf/rotate the playable classic cards.

>>389384775

druid wouldn't run it, as it would eat its jade idols. and why ramp into removal if you can ramp into ramp?

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>>389384230
you call that a waifu? looks like an ugly little troll that a 6 year old child would draw

>>389382141

Mage has literally never been nerfed even though they deserve it the most often.

>>389384964

my shadowverse waifu is beautiful, powerful and cute to boot

>>389385079

Pyroblast, Cone of Cold, Frost Nova and Blizzard got nerfed

>>389384915

Problem with that is real people and poker suck.

Mtgo would have stomped the living shit out of hearthstone if it was made on a good digital format.

>>389381697
a taunt in a pingless class is vastly better for your opponent than a 1/1

>>389384915
You must be pretty easy to entertain. Maybe someone should just dangle some shiny keys in front of your face the next time you want to enjoy yourself.

>>389383461
>They gave reasons why they didnt nerf UI.

You mean they gave their lies.

The reason they didn't hit UI is because they'd have to give you more dust if it nerfed it. Blizzard always targets the cards with the lowest dust value.

>>389385180
like 3 years ago

>>389384964
shit taste, kill yourself to death you retarded subhuman faglord

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>>389378896
>Continually powercreep the fuck out of new sets of cards while going back and nerfing and "Hall of faming" classic and basic set cards
What do you suppose Blizzard Entertainment meant by this?

>>389383917
Map making design is what mostly balanced Brood War out. The game itself was only somewhat balanced.

>Try playing without paying for packs
>Every match the opponent has 10 legendaries and then the guy that adds 5 more legendaries
>My best legendary is a Murloc

>quit when they nerfed gadgetzan auctioneer and leeroy because it meant decks I had fun playing could be deleted at any time
>they do it again to warsong commander when I was thinking of coming back
>tfw proven right again and again

>>389379170
>Card Monsters
its going to end in december, according to their post on Kongregate

Also you shouldn't post Hex on /v/, most of the users here are too retarded for it, and also its not really f2p friendly game, unless you are really good

>>389385526

i remember when wallet warrior was a problem a couple years ago

funny thing is the powerful druid decks run relatively few legendaries and the core only needs what, 2?

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>>389383692
left looks soulless as fuck. Literally korean deviantart tier. While hs has memorable images that arent shiny for no reason

Also the card text and numbers are displayed way better in hearthstone.

>>389378896
>unironically fucking nerfed war axe and hex
what the fuck are they even doing
can't wait for artifact

>>389385363

It meant give us your money goy

Anyone who doesn't uninstall after these news is a hopeless stockholm syndrome cuckold who enjoys being fucked up the shitchute with bigger and bigger dildos

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>>389382568
>plays Shadowcraftverse instead

>>389385336

I know you are joking but these changes do seem like they were made by the investment zone rather than the hs team.

Like even if you dont play the game, you can see which cards are being problematic by watching statistics or better... common fucking sense.

>>389385657
>can't wait for artifact

Fuck that noise, just play Faeria

Artifact is literally the only game that could ever compete with Hearthstone.

Also the Dota 2 characters will make for cool cards in my opinion

>>389385740
i think you confused something, I was telling the fag who doesn't like delicious shortstack waifu to kill himself

>>389382359
hex was so fucking frustrating
>play 8 mana card
>have a 3 mana card completely negate it immediately
it's still good, like polymorph is, but less so

>we didn't want to confuse new players
Everytime. What I don't get is new players aren't locked to only classic cards so they'll encounter basically a new card for their first 10 matches.

>>389383692
Played both and Shadowverse started of better than Hearthstone and then got much worse than it.
CCGs are dead, the only one I want to try before I give up on them is Artifact.

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>>389378896
And you didn't know that a year ago? How dense are you?
You sound like someone who has overinvested in time and cash.

Shame ding ding ding Shame

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>HS ruined everything with their patch
>SV fixed everything with theirs

this is why you should come play shadowverse

>>389385997

what did they change? can i play past turn 8 now?

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>>389378896
>The other option we considered for Fiery War Axe was to lower its attack to 2, but that change didn’t feel intuitive enough. Generally, changing the mana cost of a card is less disruptive, because you can always see the mana cost of cards in your hand.

>>389385909

They didn't want to confuse new players by giving them a chance to win. That's why all good Basic cards have to be nerfed until they're unplayable.

im new to Hearthstone so let me get this straight: cards that are older than 2 years will be excluded from the standard format EXCEPT classic and basic cards. But are there new basic cards coming out or are we stuck with the same batch we got a few years ago forever?

>>389386123

the classic set just has cards yanked out of it. they haven't added any at all since beta

>>389386123

There will never be new Basic cards and quit playing Hearthstone while you can.

>>389386123
Not only are there not going to be new basic cards, but some classic cards like Ragnaros and Sylvanas are still rotated out

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>>389379006
>playing Hearthstone
>playing Overwatch
>sucking ActiBlizz cock in general

>>389385997
Shadowcraft isn't 50+% of the matchups anymore?
All classes aren't a one-trick ponies anymore?
Fun mechanics (dirtrunes, discard, roost, non-haven amulets) aren't memes anymore?

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>still no lotr lcg digital game
>still no ah lcg digital game
I just want to play co-op card games

>>389386235
>>389386236
>>389386262
well thats just stupid as fuck isnt it? Who wants to play with the fucking boring basic bitch cards while other cool ones (Explorers League had some cool ones) are just rotated out?

That doesnt make sense to me

>>389386109
Well they're doing a good job at encouraging new players to buy new packs or simply out right quitting.

>theres like 80 people developing this game
>80
Yet they're all so far up their ass about new player experience and retards that come up that are drooling retards to read the pop up notice saying your cards changed.

>>389386431
all correct

> card games

Isn't this the casual type game that you play while being at the toilet?

>open 100 ungror packs
>not a single quest
>open 100 koft packs
>not a single hero

Haven't played either at all.

I also insta-concede against quests and death knight heroes since I can't beat them.

>>389386531
The reason given was that basic+classic sets provide you with a core and class identity you can always fall back on and be familiar with. More bullshit excuses for lazy design. At the bare minimum they could have sampled ban lists that refresh every season.

>>389386673
Trouble believing it after how much of a garbage expansion Tempest of the Gods was.
Especially with Shadowcraft still being Tier 1 with 2-3 decks.

>>389383461
>They gave reasons why they didnt nerf UI.

extremely shitty reasons

fuck, the card would still get play if it was just "draw 5 cards"

>>389386764
you got a free hero though, and all quests except one are complete shit

>>389386764
Stop acting like it's pay2win seriously, you can beat ANY deck with a pure free2play deck, just learn to play and check hearthpwn and copy a deck

>>389383509
>Everyone is a dumb nigger but me reeeeeee
>I have a higher rank than everyone but never prove it reeeeeeee
>Pirate Warrior as opponent could be freewins for me but im retarded reeeee

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>>389380227

Yeah, it's got co-op too. I play it with a friend while watching movies. One of my favorite things is taunt is a universal hero power that is targetable. No card has taunt by default, you have to spend 1 gold and give it to your creatures. It's quite game changing.

Also the legendaries are pretty reasonable.

>>389378896
>That's it. They don't even know what they are doing anymore.

Ahahaha they NEVER knew what they are doing. The game is kept alive by the streamers. That's it.

>>389386990
> just copy some random shit on the internet

This is why card games are shit now.

>>389386805
go play the game

they nerfed eachter for shadow, along with reaper and prince catacomb

earthrite is also one of the strongest decks right now.

this is the best meta since DE, maybe even better.

>>389386764
>Only Quest Mage is relevant
>Free DK Card for completing a 5 minute encounter you literally can not lose
being this shit

>>389387101
This also apply to MMO, MOBA and gook-click-RTS too.

>>389385526
>be F2P player
>pool everything I have into cheap minions that synergized and create Pirate Paladin that actually worked throughout The Grand Tournament
>Patches comes out and ruins Pirates for me, I switch to Murloc Paladin
>Still can only ever play Paladin, have a small amount of Legendaries I've crafted purely out of dust because every draw was some dumb bullshit or for a class I didn't care for (usually Rogue)

>>389387169
> DK is the only KotFT legendary you need

Sucking this much ActiBlizz cock.

>>389387169

Anduin is a win condition. Malfurion is a staple. Uther and Thrall are both keystones in certain playstyles

>>389386431
I hate that shadowcraft became ultra meta, I wanted it to be just an inconsistent aggro deck and a very inconsistent combo-based control deck that people only played because they thought Luna was cute. Or that Mordecai was cool.

I do keep hearing people say that the game is really balanced now though.

>>389379670
This

>>389380356
>It's not fun play if I lose! MOOOOOoooods

>>389383692
Is this image supposed to support Blizzard? Only one of those looks like an actual card, and Golden Legendary Grom is aesthetic as fuck

>>389378896
I moved on to Gwent and there hasn't been a day I've looked back. Hearthstone is an absolute mess of a game.

>>389386531
They don't want to remove the defining features of a class which the classic set does well except for rogue.

So instead of outright removing them from rotation, they'll just slowly nerf them into the ground overtime and plucking out the good ones rather than you know balancing them. The next card that seems to be gone would be Ice Block.

>>389383692
>That ugly as fuck chinese art
Gross

Ungoro was my last expansion. Have not even logged in once since than.

Glad I didn't. How the duck do they not need a class that is 60% of the meta but instead nerf it's counters.

WHAT?!

>>389387598
>Have not even logged in once since than

> Not having every single cardback since the game came out

Pleb.

>Jade Druid is too dominant
>so let's kill Murloc Shaman for no reason

> 2017
> some people still believe that card games are deep and strategic

I can't wait to watch some poker retards arguing about this.

I don't know how anybody can give a fuck about this game after they printed ultimate infestation.
Up until that point you always gad a certain amount of gain for every mana the card costed.
Sure some cards could outperform their mana cost under conditions, but you had to have them under specific circumstance.
The card was arithmetically provably overpowered from the drawing board and they didn't give a fuck.
What's more this wasn't part of any greater change where they put out cards where the stats are much more aggressive, only UI is as broken as it is, the rest of the meta relies on combos and classical stuff.
The worst part is there is almost no condition to putting UI in a druid deck besides it not beeing a zoo deck. And even then...

>>389386990
That's the problem with Hearthstone, everyone just netdecks. I guess it wouldn't be a problem if people can actually experiment easily with decks. Also if legendaries weren't 1% rates and there's like two dozen of them per set.


I cannot unironically wait for Artifact. I hope they'll have their own icefrog

why didn't they just make innervate prep but for minions

>>389387930
The amount of viable decks is so tiny, it's no wonder everyone's playing the same exact thing.

>>389388027
>extra line of text saying
>mana for minions
Confusing. Would take years for devs to implement such a feature

>>389387682
Why the duck would I care if I lost interest retard.

It's obvious that blizzard were great innovators bringing online card games to the market. But the stupid fucks have no idea what the hell they are doing. The fucking idiots controlled most of the marketshare only for games like shadowverse or gewnt to take their customers away due to their inability to balance.

What fucking retards are running the game? Some guy that delivers pizza to blizzard with no education?

OH WAIT. ...

>>389388260
Cool opinion pleb.

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>mfw even Reddit is fucking pissed at these changes

>>389388260

I wonder whose dick did Ben brode suck going from pizza guy to lead for hearthstone.

>>389388473

Nothing he said is an opinion is the sad part.

> Meta is pure shit filled with jade druid, murloc paladin and pirate warrior
> Make some change so people can try some variety
> REEEEEEEEE

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>>389382134
>Murloc
Noooooo!

>>389388473

>other games taking blizzard customers
Not an opinion

>lead designer used to deliver pizza to blizzard
FACT

The hilarious thing is you faggots still play this garbage.

I quit this shit early 2015 because I saw where it was going. Oh wow, big surprise, an online card game has insane balance issues and the devs have no idea how to fix it.

I swear to god, and game that's "ongoing" has horrid balancing and the devs have no idea how to fix it besides blanket nerfs across the board.

Blizzard is shit. Don't support them by continuing to play their games.

>>389386461
>>>389386461
>>389386461
reverse image search found nothing sauce me brother

>>389389083
They know how to fix it...

But that would require changing cards from the current expansion.

Instead they will fuck with base vanilla cards instead since they are free...

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>>389378896
It is painfully obvious that this nerf are made in a way to not give people dust. Innervate was a problem but not as big as UI yet UI is left untouched . Fiery Win axe is just shit tier now it is vanilla 3 3 2 when other classes have same ratio with effect. In one post they say they don't want to break class identity and yet they nerf staple weapon of warrior and identity as master of weapons. If they wanted to nerf pirate they should do so by addressing pirate cards . I wonder how they can wait with nerf so long since it looks like 1 retard changed cards at whim without even thinking because FWA was only 2 mana good card that warrior currently have and it fucks over control warrior that was already worse than other control classes.

>>389389486
>Innervate was a problem but not as big as UI yet UI is left untouched

UI should've been nerfed but this is a retarded thing to say

>>389385382
>Map making design is what mostly balanced Brood War out.
Yeah the maps they actually compete on shouldn't be underestimated.

>>389383461
Are you fucked up in the head?> Just compare it to lay on hands and you will see how much this card is overvalued even when you play it on curve it is very strong

We have a new hero called doom fist

Oh fuck roadhog destroys him and roadhog is a popular hero.

Let's nerf the living fuck out of him to the point of never being picked to make doomfist more awesome

BALANCE

>>389383692
gwent has better art for my taste

Why you are not playing shadowverse?

>>389389931
Just like WoW.
Just like Diablo 3.
Just like Starcraft.
Just like Warcraft.

Blizzard has ALWAYS been a shitty company.

>>389390080
embarrasing artstyle tbqhm

>>389390145
> Graphics matter more than gameplay

Okay.

>>389390080
Same reason everyone plays magic over yugioh...

Yugioh is way more complex with very different playstyles.

But magic artstyle is safer and doesn't make you look like a retard when playing.

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>>389378896
>still getting jewed by ben brode and company
jesus fuck

>>389390285
Fine go play counter strike instead of GO and source.

It's clearly the better game...

>>389387147
Can't be arsed. I'd have to manually switch the soundfiles with the japanese ones again, would take time to get all the new cards etc.
It just shows how you can kill the hype for a game with one big mistake.

>>389388572
You need to go back.

>>389390285
Shadowverse gameplay is also bad.

>>389382016
Priest is a healthy second, but remains the most annoying shit to play against.

>>389379006

>finally decide to try it out because the curiosity is killing me
>its actually kinda fun because its basically MtG Light

I knew it was going to be easy and accessible and it doesn't help that I can play it on my god damn phone. I still like MtG more and even have Magic online but barely play it. This is just so easy to hop into.

>>389390635
You can do that in client with language settings now.

It boggles my mind that Blizzard was somehow able to rope in the normie casual crowd into TCG/CCGs. There is literally no reason this shit is as popular as it is. It's so casual that children can and do succeed at it and the entire "competition" is based on who spent the most money. Even worse, this shit has poisoned video games like LoL did, where everyone and their fucking mother are making shitty Hearthstone clones with less interesting properties.

>>389384170
It's an ok game.
10/10 waifus tho

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>>389391278
Normies LOVE TCG.

Magic is literally full of normies.

>>389391276
That might actually be reason enough to reinstall and check it out.
I probably have enough gold/vials lying around to craft a bunch of meta decks anyway.

>>389390961
>nerfing warleader
Wow, this really is no fun allowed the game.

>>389391861
They didnt like that Equality/Consecration didnt work.

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>>389378896
>NERFING FIERY WAR AXE WHEN IT STOPPED BEING A FUCKING PROBLEM AS SOON AS NAXX WAS INTRODUCED

WHAT THE FUCK ARE THEY EVEN DOING?

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At this point, I believe that Ben is actually Valve's inside man in Blizzard

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I played Hearthstone off and on until they removed Rag and Sylvanis from standard and I can safely say it got worse with every subsequent patch
the last fun expansion was League of Explorers

It's pretty fucking clear they're nerfing as many essential classic cards as possible in an effort to sell more packs. I'm done with this shit.

>>389380398
this desu senpai baka

>Innervate now not worth running, just a shitty coin
>Fiery War Axe now not worth running
>Hex is now factually a worse Polymorph

>switched to Eternal months ago
feels good

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BRAVO BLIZZARD, ROGUE NOW HAS BETTER WEAPONS THAN WARRIOR

>>389392593
>switched to real gacha
still feels better than hs

>>389392230
True. And the last fun meta was when Secret Paladain, Brokeback Druid, and Freeze Mage were all playing rock paper scissors with each other

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>Love card games
>Don't wa t to play Hearthstone because I don't give a shit out the Warcraft universe
>Played Shadowverse for about 90 hours according to steam and mostly enjoyed it, but it felt too shallow after a while so I stopped playing
>Most other online card games are either dead or not worth playing
>Played YGO competitively from base Yugi/Kaiba started up until about 2011 but I quit because Monami has no idea what they're doing and I got tired of their shit after do many years. Game still isn't worth returning to
>Pokemon TCG gets dull after a few weeks
>Enjoy Magic but getting into standard and modern requires you to be practically rich or not mind spending every penny of your expendable income on cardboard
>Don't really care about EDH
>No one plays paper pauper here
>Other printed card games like Force of Will shit the bed
Why are card games so suffering? Everything is shit.

>>389392230
League of Explorers wasn't the last fun expansion, but it was the last well designed one.

>>389392890
Gwent, nigger

>>389392267
>a meta game is good if it never changes

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>>389378896

>Playing shitstone

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>>389392890

There's like 50 decks in expanded pokemon and it's fucking awesome.

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>>389393125

>>389393013
How about create more good fucking cards then? It says a lot when the classic cards consistently blow the fuck out of newer cards, and it's because 90% of the new cards are often pack fillers. The last big time meta changing expansion was League of Explorers two years ago, before that it was Naxxramas.

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>>389392982
I don't care about the Witcher universe so I don't care about Gwent.

>>389393160
>we need more OP cards to beat OP cards

Classic was a mistake.

>>389393228
The classic cards are perfectly balanced. They were balanced through countless games of alpha and beta matches. Newer cards not living up to the standards of the classics is a design problem with the expansion, not the base game.

>>389393176
I have literally never played a Witcher game, who gives a fuck if the mechanics are good?

>>389392102
The devs talked sometimes about how win axe limits the design space of minions in the game since any 3-health minion will have to be designed with the prospect of win axe being in the enemy warrior's hand.

I'm okay with nerfing it, but they should've been less aggressive about it. It became basically a shit rallying blade/eaglehorn bow.

They could've nerfed it to a 2/2 weapon with Battlecry: deals 1 damage to a minion. It:
>cuts potential face damage which hurts pirate warrior;
>gives more class synergy since you can hurt your own minions;
>has better flavor since the original from WoW was an axe that dealt additional fire damage via a fireball ping;
>still gives the power for warrior to clear a 3-health minion ONCE, making it a soft nerf to that

>>389393329
>8/8 charge a random target at the end of the turn while being immune is balanced

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>>389393329
I can't get into a card game if I don't give a shit about the cards.

>>389392602
>rogue
*everybody

>>389393394
>Dies to all the exact same shit that kills every other big minion
WOW SO FUCKING OP DUDE

They should have just power creeped the game instead. There's nothing inherently wrong with that, especially since the playerbase always wants the new cards they get to be good anyway. You can say that it will make old players afraid to come back, but rotation and nerfing classic have already done that

>>389391971
I thought this was the dumbest reason.
I understand you gotta keep the basic cards simple because normies can't always figure this shit out.
But you would change a card so that new players who happen to play paladin and happen to face a murloc deck don't get confused?
I don't understand why it didn't just get pushed to 4 mana.

>>389393356
It should have been "Can't Target Heroes."

Remains a control card but can't be used in pirate decks.

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>>389393507
They want normies to join the game, and normies wont buy packs if they cant understand the game.

>>389393442
sucks to bey you then

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>>389393442

>>389393478
We have to accept some power creep but we shouldn't just lay down and take it or else you get Yugioh.

>>389393356
They sacrificed Bladeflurry on the altar of "design space" and STILL NEVER MADE ANOTHER GOOD ROGUE WEAPON OR WEAPON BUFF

They literally destroyed an archetype which was one of the most fun to play in their shitty game, for fucking nothing.

>>389393787
Yugioh is going to outlast HS at this rate. Duel Links is genuinely more fun, at least.

>>389393356

Daily reminder that all talk about design space is just them making excuses for their incompetence. Every card that does anything automatically "restricts design space" and has to be designed around. Only way to avoid that is to not have cards.

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>>389393960

>>389393595
>>389393768
So resonators are creatures?
Why the fuck are they called resonators? Who came up with that awful name?

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>>389394175
It's with the Lore of the game. They are not exactly creatures.
Reminder that creatures used to be called Summons in Magic.

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>>389381198
>name one time blizzard ever had a balanced game
Overwatch

>>389393960
I don't even get why they're so worried about making something too strong. This is a digital card game. If you fuck up, you can just adjust the stats. If they did that regularly to new cards instead of once every six months and only to old ones, they wouldn't have this fucking problem.

Will the new MTG: Arena deliver or should I start grinding Gwent card or buy Hex?

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>>389394563
>a shitty tripfag has a shitty opinion
pottery

>>389394623
If Gwent scratches the itch for you, I say go for it, but it's too different from a standard ccg for me to bother. MTG will never make a good digital game, because they pay below average rate for their developers in a major tech city. Shadowverse is still fine, PVZ:heroes is jewy as fuck but well designed, and Eternal is basically mtg-lite

>>389394571
The problem here lies in jewery.
Cards might have been purchased with real money. So you either have to give the customer a refund (and giving more refund gives people more dust which makes them buy less packs) or you just have to tell the customer to suck it (which makes player retention drop).

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>>389394563
HAHHAAHHAHAAH
like literally just check fucking statistics there are characters that have 0 pick ratio and characters that are in every game

Just started playing this. If I buy just the welcome pack (1 legendary + 10 packs) and nothing else do I get to play the game for a while?

Or am I absolutely forced to waste hundreds?

I don't want to go competitive or anything. Just want to have fun. Which of course means I want to win.

>>389394857
They're losing dollars to save nickels this way. That player retention drop is way more harmful to the game than giving dust out every couple of months. HS is one of the least generous card games out there, and it's a bad strategy in a genre that produced a game as long running as MTG

>>389394942
Just play arena and get 6+ wins each time.

>>389394942
just wait for random Tavern Brawls.

>>389394942

There is no way to stay competitive in this game without spending money or so much time that you wish you had just spent money.

>>389394942
If you spend literally any money on this game you fucked up. And I spent a couple hundred on it.

>>389395046
>>389395020
>>389395070
>>389395109
Oh come on it can't be this fucking bad

Like, there must be decks that can be made in a relatively short amount of time for no money or little money.

>>389394563
trip fag you are a full blown dumb fuck. know that.

>>389395362
Face hunter
that's about it though.
seriously, just wait for random Brawls, they're the most actual fun anyway.

>>389395362
If you want a fun card game, HS is the wrong choice. Its main playerbase at this point are Americans who don't know what gachapon are, and veterans too invested to quit. Everyone who used to like it hate it.

>>389395362
I mean sure but like do you really wanna play the exact same deck card for card over and over?

>>389395362
all of the relatively cheap, easy to play decks have been rendered obsolete
you're gonna need a fuckton of dust to create even a decent Pirate Warrior deck

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>>389395362
>there must be decks that can be made in a relatively short amount of time for no money or little money

>>389394370
no, that was the name of the spell type. the permanent that entered play was always called a creature. they changed the spell type to "creature spell" because of people like you who can't make the distinction. you are new and dumb

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>>389395794
Please. Learn the basic of Magic the Gathering.

Hearthstone is fucking insane. I don't think there has ever been another video game that was designed so thoroughly around being watched rather than played. It's got so much rng bullshit, it's super expensive to play and even more expensive to experiment with, and it isn't rewarding in the slightest. It's like they actually sat down at some board meeting and tried to figure out how to get twitch viewers as opposed to actually satisfying a playerbase.

>>389395362
There definitely is, if you're not expecting to hit the high ranks you can do fine with the Hunter class.
Bizarrely it doesn't run a single legendary or epic card, everything it plays is incredibly cheap.

Once you've played a long while, token and aggro decks are generally very cheap to make - aggro druid is one of (if not the) best decks in the game, and is pretty cheap to craft compared to most.

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>>389395794
Please. Do. They changed from Summon to Creature in 6th Edition.

>>389395913
It's evolved that way. Back in beta the focus was on balancing a decent card game, and it was pretty fun. Naxx was too strong, but still a mostly fun expansion. Then HS got a mobile app, and everything went horribly wrong, as it became about sucking as much money out of the parents' of twelve year olds as possible, which meant they needed swingy ways for new players to win, i.e. RNG. GVG was full of it. HS got huge on Twitch, and suddenly that was the game. App players and streamers.

>>389395569
You are retarded

Pirate warrior is currently the cheapest competitive deck. It's barely under 2.5k dust and it gets you to high legend with proper play.

Though it probably gonna go in a few weeks because they butchered fwa

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>>389379006

>>389395362
bruh the game's been out for years and has like 10 expansions by now. you can't even beat old school f2p players at this point without dropping a few hundo

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>>389395362

>>389383692
>there are people who actually prefer the """art""" on the right

How retarded can you get?

>>389383113
He's right tho

>>389397918
>I'm right tho
No

>>389395907

Is this card supposed to be rare without the signature? I think I have one.

>>389398757
If it's really old it might be worth like $5-10.

>>389398757
Lol no. It's a common with tons of reprints. Unless you got an Alpha or Beta, it's less than a dollar.

>>389395907
>>389396020

No, he's right. The spell type was summon, but once the card was in play, it was called a creature. This was always the case. You can check by just finding an old rulebook. You have a "summon spell" that produces a "creature". The terminology was always this.

They changed it specifically because idiots didn't understand that the same card is referred to by two different words depending on whether it's in play or not.

>>389380287
they really don't know what the fuck they are doing anymore eh

>>389379670
it is hard to do actually, i think
i thought about it a while back and not using those terms is hard.

though, its not like its copyrighted or anything

>>389400891

Oh they do know: they're raking in a million dollars a day from rubes who don't know to quit the shitty game.

>>389378896
just starting this shitheap game
what is the MOST op deck i can build?
i have like 20 years of MTG exp, so i expect to be able to trounce everyone at this fucking "game"

>>389401021
Pirate Warrior has the highest skill ceiling right now, but only until a few weeks from now when they roll out the changes.

Aggro decks on average have a much higher skill ceiling of all archetypes, so you should roll with aggro, assuming you got your fundamentals after playing card games for 20 years.

>>389401021
>just starting this shitheap game

Quit immediately.

>i have like 20 years of MTG exp, so i expect to be able to trounce everyone at this fucking "game"

Haha, you poor fool. Did you not hear? This game is a coinflip simulator. Skill does nothing here.

>what is the MOST op deck i can build?

Ladder is presently 80% Jade Druid and the only counter to Jade Druid is a luckier Jade Druid.