Which one fell the furthest?

>>389363714
Blizzard and Sony still technically make games.

>>389363714
>blizzard was bought by activision and every new product is as soulless as the last
>Valve gave people what they wanted in the worst way possible
>Sony keeps thinking Knack is relevant

Hard to say desu

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Sony.

>>389363714
Valve actually had standards and inventive ways of running a company that came and bit us in the ass. Now they just do that to be lazy

Blizzard

>>389363809
That PS4 would be /fa/ as fuck, senpai

>>389363809
the gapestation?

First two were always shit

Valve was scummy all along but they did make Portal

>>389363809
this is not real right,

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>>389363809
>Pozstation

valve

>>389364215
PS+ has a new meaning

>>389363714
Blizzard.

They went from making Starcraft and Diablo II to making the absolute fucking trash skinner box microtransaction cancer horseshit infesting this modern industry. Fuck em.

Now that they're realizing they can't make anything new that's worth a damn they're just HD remastering their old games and charging for them again as well.

sony, at least valve and blizzard stopped making games

id rather have no games than pandering cinematic garbage constantly being thrown out to remind me how far gone they are

its literally insulting at this point, and valve/blizzard at least dont insult their older fans as much as sony does :\

>>389363809
Holy fuck how have i not seen this? As a swede it's hard not to laugh at this shit because of course that abomination would be from sweden

Sony is grossly out of touch and incompetent.

Valve was at least transparent about what they wanted to become.

Blizzard likes to pretend it's still the buddy buddy company from 15 years ago but it's a shambling corpse of blizzard being propped up by activision.

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>>389363809
That's a custom thing though

>>389363809
>implying you wouldn't bi one if you could

>>389363714
Sony were never that 'based' (dem failure rates) and Blizzard still makes popular games. That leaves Valve who went from one of the best developers to a middle man obsessed with nickle and diming customers to fund failed hardware projects

>>389363714

Valve

>>389364165
It is. It's something a Swedish webstore selling during pride week a while back.

Now, say it with me, SWEDEN YES.

I really liked playing wc3 custom games but none of Blizzard's newer games are doing it for me.

Especially when there are better alternatives.

Blizzard

i'm still somewhat interested in what the other two are doing, but with Blizzard i really couldn't give a shit.

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>>389364362
>valve doesnt insult their older fans

Sony
>Directly pandering to GAF
>Wants money for online services without improving any of them at all
>Trying to push the streaming meme
>The quality of their studios has nosedived
>Obsessed with Hollywood and propping up the failing film division.
>Had literally no games till 2017 and half the four worthwhile exclusives are by Sega

>>389363809
>sony's worst is a skin for a console
>valve and blizz went from great games to lootboxes

>>389364723
>tfw it turns out "artifact" referred to hl3 being an artifact of old valve
>"the dota card game" was a separate announcement

>>389363809
That's not a Sony product...

>>389364918
What the fuck does that look like to you, a fucking Wii U?

>>389364725
(You-9

>>389364992
A skin made in China ordered by Webhallen and RFSL.

>>389363714
Valve. They don't make games and they barely care about the ones they already have except for DotA.

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>>389363714
Two of them have kept making succesful and critical acclaimed games, the other one is just afloat by microtransactions. You tell me OP.

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>>389364918

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6RmOr5U5CM

>>389365073
It's still a PS4, though, ergo, it's a Sony product.

>>389365224
By your absolutely retarded logic Nintendo and Microsoft also support gay rights
>>389364485

>>389365224
The skin isn't made by Sony you baiting cunt, therefore the skin which is WHAT YOU WERE BITCHING ABOUT is NOT a sony product

>>389365224
Alright so if I put a rainbow sticker on your clothes you're gay? Thanks been wondering about that

>>389363714
Sony were never good in the first place.
Dota 2 is Valve's best game yet so they are still doing fine, their single player games were always overrated, short-lived novelties.
Blizzard fell of a cliff and somehow keep digging themselves deeper with each new release.

>>389363714
Used to be a Blizzdrone now I've made a promise to never give Activision-Blizzard another cent under any circumstances. It's actually mindboggling how far they fell in the last decade.

>>389363714
Valve is by far the worst out of any of them.
>All of their games in the last 10 years have been microtransaction shitfests
>First to popularise always online bullshit, couldn't go offline for years
>Refused to give refunds for years
>Acknowledged that people were entitled to a refund, but gave up that right when they used Steam
>It took the EU dumping on them to finally give refunds, but only if you haven't played more than 2 hours
>Refund is in steam wallet dollars by default and requires you to go out of your way to get actual money back
>Still charging foreign countries in US dollars
>Selling game licenses that they can revoke for any reason, none of their users actually own anything
>Take the lion's share of any workshop items that get sold, workshop modellers aren't paid until they reach a certain money threshold
>Takes a 30% cut of all sales on their platform
>Tried to do the same thing with mods, but got blown the fuck out
>Actually had a really good plot sypnosis for Half-Life 3, but it didn't happen because they are lazy and greedy cunts

Keep in mind that all of these underhanded and greedy policies aren't because of a bunch of suits forcing Valve to make them money, since it's a privately owned company. These policies exist because Gabe or someone else in the company approved of them.

>>389363714
with regards to new actual games, Valve of course

>>389365363
>Sony were never good in the first place.
Wiitoddler pls.

>>389363714
Sony.

But this is /v/. So, Valve 80000%

>>389363714
Blizzard was better than both, and you can only fall as much as you rise, so there.

>>389365363

So, this is the mindset of a child born in 1999? No wonder the video games industry is shelling out more and more retarded, low-brow crap. DOTA is an old Warcraft 3 mod, it's barely a Valve 'game'

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in my honest, unbiased oppinion without trying to bash anyone while also having only playstation 2 and 3 as consoles:

sony fell the most due to the fact that it was the highest out of all 3

blizzard and valve both only realy have video game business and as far as i can tell, blizzard is making more money than ever with overwatch and even piles of shit like hearthstone and hots
valve is making money without doing anything, just calculate how much daily cold cash they get from selling virtual cards at the market and general game sales, it's crazy

meanwhile sony, 2 decades ago had EVERYTHING, TVs, camcorders, VHS, soundsystems, the name "Sony Entertainment" on pieces of hardware was globally recognised as a brand of quality

now? nobody gives a fuck about sony and the most PR they get is from console wars...

>>389365363
Underage: the post: the movie: the book & Knuckles

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>>389365290
Nice try retard, but unless you can prove Nintendo and Microsoft have replicated this bullshit >>389365180, your arguement is invalid.

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>>389365529
>now? nobody gives a fuck about sony

>>389365412
>>Takes a 30% cut of all sales on their platform
Name one distributor that doesn't take at least a 30% cut.

>>389365694
>sponsoring an event for PR purposes is bad now
Also nice job ignoring these two posts that BTFO you idiot
>>389365328
>>389365340

>>389364732
>companies making money OH NOOOOO
You literally never have to buy a lootbox for any of their games if you don't want to. The only people who do are low IQ low impulse control retards.

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>>389365412
>First to popularise always online bullshit, couldn't go offline for years
>Refused to give refunds for years
I complained about this shit here as reasons I didn't use Steam.
/v/ defended it at every corner. It felt like talking to slaves who would be punished by death for saying the wrong thing. It was sad.

>>389363714
Sony used to be a titan whose name was synonymous with user electronics. Nowadays they're an insurance company with a profitable video game division that leeches royalty fees from the people who actually make games.

>>389365434
He's right. They had the worst hardware almost every gen and all the big PlayStation exclusives were not made by sony but by third parties.

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>>389365820
>Dismissing the posts that BTFOs you as "simple PR"
>Continues to declare his opposition BTFO on super flimsy evidence
There's no fucking arguing with Sonybros apparently.

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>>389366057
>has no counter argument
>still replies
Thanks for the free win

>>389363714
Where's Bethesda?

Definitely Valve. I don't remember anons saying "Blizzard is saving gaming!" or "Sony is saving gaming!" during their respective heydays.

>>389366001
>and all the big PlayStation exclusives were not made by sony but by third parties.
That's like saying the SNES was shit because most of their good games were made by third party

>>389365909
Valve has exceptionally good PR. The average /v/irgin isn't smart enough to look past the bullshit.

>>389363714
I'd say Sony due to the quality of their products getting worse year after year despite being known as a technology giant in the 90s and early 2000s. Not to mention how their insurance and computer entertainment branches along with their anime distribution subsidiary being the reasons Sony is still listed on the Topix and Nikkei.

Blizzard and Valve both fell in a way where a lot of their talent are either working on smaller games or left the company, except Blizzard still makes games despite them not being that good.

>>389363714
>sony
who cares
>blizzard
still falling, very rapidly
>valve
already hit rockbottom

>>389363714
Easily Valve. They made some of the most beloved games of their generation, but now make mediocre drek when they're making anything at all. They also bear the majority of the blame for the climate of microtransactions we now find ourselves in.

>>389364147
Warcraft III alone is better than anything Valve ever created.

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>>389366168
>Implying >>389365328 >>389365340 are evidence
>Implying >>389365180 is not
The latter COMPLETELY destroys the former two, but you completely disregarded that while promoting them. At least try to prove Nintendo and Microsoft are doing that shit before declaring yourself the winner. At least then you have something backing your shit up.

As a whole? Sony, even if you like their games just about everything from their film, music and electronic division is an absolute disgrace.

>>389365909
But now you can, so why are you bitching about something that isn't an issue now? They were slow to fix it, yes, but they still did.

>>389363714
Valve, not a debate.

>>389366275
Blizzard and Sony's heydays were before 4chan existed.

>>389363714
Blizzard, but at least they climbed high enough to fall that far.

Sony and valve have always been pretty mediocre.

>>389366689
The fuck are you talking about? They haven't shrunk, they've only gotten bigger and bigger.

sony's niggers never leave the plantation and keep accepting beatings in the form of online increase prices, constant hackings, and other shit. They're like the worst uncle toms of the plantations.

Atleast nintendoniggers get watermelon and fried chicken for lunch every day in the form of metroid.

>>389366253
This

Creation club takes them to a new low never before seen

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>>389366550
sponsoring is something companies do all the time even if they dont agree with the cause in matter as long people keep buying your shit
So yeah you got BTFO and now you are grasping at straws

>>389366275
You probably weren't born or was too young to realize it then. PlayStation 1 and 2 were considered revolutionary consoles that would end up shifting the market as we know it and Blizzard used to dominate the PC market.

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>>389366583
Call me when WB or Disney have a equivalent for this.
Also "as a whole", valve is the worst you dumb faggot. They ruined PC gaming.

>>389366843
Having more money isn't the same as being great. We're not shareholders, we're gamers.

Valve by a mile.

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>>389366971
>Abandoning video games for a shitty store service is worse than ruining your 40+ year legacy in electronics
okay

>>389366597
Only after they were given an ultimatum by European law. That's what it took to make Valve willingly part with shekels.

Valve and Blizzard equally.

>>389365513
>>389365583
>90s babbies calling me underage
I don't see how preferring an actually demanding and rewarding game like Dota 2 that isn't over after 5 hours instead of gimmicky scripted corridor kiddie shooters makes me underage but what do I know.

>>389366971
How have the ruined all of PC gaming exactly? They monopolized it, i'll give you that and it's pretty shitty but what have they done that has "ruined" it? PC gaming has gone downhill due to a bunch of multiple factors, Valve and Steam being a single one.

I'd say the biggest thing that has made PC gaming worse is the new industry focus on a wider audience with consoles over well made ports and niche audiences in PC.

>>389366405
Now that their PR is cracking, hopefully they realize what they need to do.

>>389366521
>wc3 allowed dota to exist
>dota helped destroy valve
>blizzard's greatest accomplishment is dragging the best company down with them

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389367438
This is pathetic, not even worth a (You)

>>389367242
>t. dumb anime faggot.
We aren't talking about how rich they became but their impact on the culture.

>>389363714
Sony
then Blizzard

Valve last

>>389367514
>industry focus on a wider audience with consoles over well made ports and niche audiences in PC
And that's because tech requirements have increased. People want more from their games, this costs more, niche audiences aren't enough to fund it (and even if they were, the masses can still pay more), even though the same niche audiences didn't care about having the newest graphics tech in the first place.

>>389367603
Yeah but no one buys Sony products anymore unless it was a Playstation, when was the last time you hear someone talking about how they're a tech giant?

>>389363714
Blizzard.

Sony and Valve were overrated shit companies since ever. Now one of them makes SJW mediocre "experiences" and the other jews the fuck out of microtransactions of f2p crap instead of making games.

At least Blizzard made undeniable masterpieces in the past like diablo 1 and 2,starcraft,warcraft 2 and 3 and WoW up to Cataclysm. Not muh speshul 2deep4u shooter with physics puzzle gimmicks and they certainly didnt create a fanbase as cancerous as pcbros

>>389363714
valve & will never stop being valve
>sony still cranks out nice machines from time to time
>blizzard still has overwatch

>>389367514
Their introduced/standardized early access shit/money transactions while strangling the devs.
This forced the devs to stop caring about good solo/multi with contend, and instead focus on lootbox.

Sony
>dominating the console market
>producing new, hit ip
>delivering some of the most anticipated games such as tlou2 and death stranding

Billzard
>dominating the MMO space
>just released a widely successful new ip no one can compete with
>remastering beloved games in between projects
>activision is for the most part hands off

Valve
>just announced a new ip
>monopoly on pc space and doesn't take advantage of us
>several aaa projects in the works to push vr forward
>incredibly successful moba and fps

Must be rough to be too much of a contrarian to enjoy these games and platforms.

>>389367975
>a new ip
It's "the dota card game". That's not a new IP. If their 3 other projects are anything, that might change things.

>>389367791
The fuck we care about "tech giant". I'm talking as a consummer. While Sony brought us the ps1/ps2, good games (and good movies) and still continuing to do so, valve destroyed the PC community, you know when it was about private servers, creativity, custom map, skins, etc.
For Blizzard they just stopped making good games, but at least they are still making games.

>>389363714
Imagine if Sony, Blizzard and Valve become one.
We can get the worst company of all time.

>>389363714
>no nintendo
gee i wonder who could be behind this post

>>389367553
Are you planning on defending your position at any point, or is that also underage?

>>389368186
Why the hate of Sony? Or maybe you guys consider that Microsoft is dead?

>>389368224
No point in arguing with someone who considers DOTA 2 a good game also how does it feel to be PUBGs bitch?

>>389368220
Im not OP but i think Nintendo isnt worthy of mention since they make manchild crap since ever and their "more mature" tittles always fail to get as much attention since they are mediocre at best.

If we were at kindergarden instead of /v/ then he could include them

>>389367991
The level of PS4 shilling during 2013 was the most insanely patheic thing I've ever seen in this industry.

>>389368142
>they are still making games
What are they making now?

>>389368261
Microsoft is a more subtle form of evil that people complain about every now and then but in the end ignore which in turn allows them to get away with more extremely questionable shit.

Sony is just plain incompetent.

>>389367991
>Nioh was originally a PS3 title
>literally every game on the PS4 is a Vita port, originally for PS3, sequel to one or the other, or Bloodborne
You can't make this shit up

>>389368383
Bloodborne, Nioh?
I know its not a lot. But hey thats 100x better than the others.
>>389368451
>Sony is just plain incompetent.
What is kinect.
What is making a powerful console, supporting great games for gamers, and then suddenly shit on your core audience in favor of the wii audience.

>>389368371
i thought this thread was about who was more scummy in their practices, and if that were the case Nintendo should've been on the list

>>389364085
the gaystation?

>>389368123
When are those 3 new projects going to be announced anyway?

>>389368261
>Microsoft is dead
That is not dead which can eternal lie. And with strange aeons even death may die.

>>389368606
Oh, thought you meant Blizzard.

>>389368606
Not saying that Microsoft hasn't always done really stupid shit, hell just loo at the entirety of the Xbox One release.

But they definitely have gotten away with a lot more things that they probably shouldn't have.

>>389368690
Real soon now.

>>389363714
N I N T E N D O

Overpriced trash with ports. That is modern Nintendo. Fucking garbage.

>>389368641
Nintendo is inherently scummy since they use children to make themselves feel like great game developers. If thats indeed the case then scrap everything. No sony no valve ,just whatever company owns farmville and zynga poker should be mentioned. They make squeenix look like saints

>>389363771
technically valve is still making games [although shit probably] with the new card game + 3 not yet announced VR games

>>389368871
>whatever company owns farmville and zynga poker should be mentioned
Zynga was shit from the beginning, though. They didn't fall.

>>389368325
Nothing wrong with liking a challenging game in my book, you'd have to explain to me what's wrong with that.
Not sure what you mean with PUBG. I'm going to avoid assuming you are referring to its recent surge in popularity somehow affecting me because that would be incredibly childish and we already established you being a grown mature individual.

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>>389366897
You don't sponsor shit you don't like, retard. Sony likes that shit because they like the money SJWs bring to them.

>>389368325
Dota 2 is the best normal MOBA. It doesn't have any of the bullshit LoL does.

Sony has never been more dominant in the console business.

Valve is the PC king for the foreseeable future, even if they don't make anything else. Dota 2 and Steam are enough.

Blizzard on the other hand has nothing substantial. Fuck casual shooters and decade old MMOs and anyone who likes them.

>>389368938
right. I forgot about the falling part.
What about SEGA then? I mean they made shit sure and sonic is gay but now they are dead. Also i think they publish(or even make idk) football manager which has been shit since the release of 15 ,having to release a good one since 2013

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I've never understood comparing Sony and Microsoft to others.
They're not a video game company, they aren't developers. Sony a Japanese appliance company, and Microsoft is primarily software driven. PS and Xbox are nothing more than their means to tap into this market. They think they can extort some more money out of this audience, they'll do it. How was this not apparent when PS+ and Xbox Live became mandatory for online gaming?

>>389363714
blizzard

>>389368845
This

I will never buy from them

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>>389365167
>afloat by microtransactions
ummm...

>>389363714

blizzard still makes videogames unlike the other two