Underrail

>>389360635
Definitely help abram. I've always helped Black Eels since Scrappers make you kill a merchant who sells great shit for most of the mid-game.

Helghast?

It's hard.
It's also rather plain, visually.
that said, I played tilled a beat Depot A and decided to shelf it for a bit because it took me so long to beat Depot A that I needed a break. I intend to go back and finish it.

>>389360635
Not helping Abram or failing any of the followup quests will lock you out of some interesting quests and a unique area.

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Great RPG

>mfw played through this, Pillars, Divinity, Wasteland 2 and Age of Decadence

I need a good RPG, how is Serpent in the Staglands?

>>389361093
>>389361462
Yeah but why?
He's a wierd dude sitting by a bar, stuffin bread into his coat and asking me to bug an ambassy

>>389362726
You are literally asking to get spoiled, play the game.

>>389362070

looks nice, not super fun imo. give it a shot

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>>389362726
Oh boy, you don't know shit yet anon, just do the goddamn quest and don't fail his quest chain. Make a save before doing them.

Chem pistol/ amplified plasma pistol/throwing master race.

Help Abram and black eels/scrappers doesn't matter. Eels have a mission you might really struggle with if you aren't psi.

>>389362070

hard as balls, damn wolves in the starter area can you fuck up real good

>>389362726
Because protectorate are fascist pigs.

>>389363352
GAS THE DRONES
METRO WAR NOW

>>389361268
Beginning is hard because you're locked out stuff. Once you can explore past the rubble and craft/buy shield for yourself, game becomes fairly okay.

>>389362726
Once i've explained with total accuracy what the Junkyard Embassy's lay out is, how exactly am I able to continue that quest chain?

Help Abram, its the best quest chain in the game


also Only Traps and grenades best build, followed by being a muscle wizzard

>>389363665
If you give Abram the proper layout of the Embassy or at least the info he's looking for he'll give you his text task right away.

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Is it possible to beat the game with Temporal Manipulation, Unarmed, and Throwing?

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>>389362070
Shadowrun

>>389363352
ummm sweetie /v/ is a fascist board ;)

>>389360635
Currently on the quest to fetch cave hoppers. Not sure if I want to rescue the guy in the bunker with all those psi-beetles. Unless you get a good amount of XP for doing it I feel like I'd just waste precious ammo. Is it worth it?

>>389361268
Oh boy. Depot A is only the first hurdle, get ready for some more ass bleeding. Thank god for throw, that skill is fucking mandatory

>>389363982
I will tell you once the expansion arrives.
Unarmed with psychokinesis is pretty fucking strong already, adding time manipulation into the mix will make it god-tier.

>>389363982
temporal manipulation is a psi school part of the dlc which hasn't released yet

unarmed+throwing by themselves are enough to beat the game though, so I don't see how TM would hurt

>>389360635
At which point during the game would you notice a build being a lot more unviable than others if you're playing for the first time?

>>389364503
If you can get through Depot A, you can get through the rest of the game.
If you struggle even prior to it, your build is probably shit.

>>389364503
Depot A will break bad builds. A lot of things are viable but you only have enough skill points to max 8 skills so keep that in mind. You can still dip in more than 8 but most skills are only good maxed

>>389364620
>>389364760
Keep in mind that even the best melee build will suffer in depot A a lot more than terrible/mediocre ranged ones due to the acid blood.
So don't worry about that.

Underrail kicked my ass. I think my first character wasnt focused enough and too all over the place.

I want to make a sneaky commando type. Can i split points with melee and guns or should i just focus on one of them?

>>389364994
You can make some acid-resistant armour to help with that.

/v/, please spoonfeed me for a minute. I'm in tchort institute, but I can't seem to get through the interview to infiltrate them. should I continue blasting all these niggas, or load save and try harder? it kind of feels like I'm supposed to have succeeded

>>389364218
>Is it worth it?
He's your station-mate, anon, be nice.
And yeah, it's worth it. If you play smart you should recoup more than the cost of the ammo with what you find in the outpost.

>>389364994
If they take tailoring and craft some mutant dog leather it isn't.

Also everyone should take enough electronics for a taser. The stun is invaluable even late game with the lowest quality parts

>>389365084
The most important part of any build are the feats which can quite literally become a game changer.
So look through them, and check the requirements to allocate your attribute points accordingly.

>>389364218
I hope you're playing oddity anon. You should get a easy level up from the oddities in that building.

Ammo is cheap and easy to come by. Shoot the beetles when their brain is exposed.

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How is my build looking so far?

>>389365554
Unoptimized but fine/10

Dodge and Evasion are a mixed bag but worthless if you don't max it so either leave Evasion where it is or pour a ton of points into it the next few levels. Disassemble is sadly straight up bad. The quality loss in components is what kills it.

>>389365554
>salesman
>power management

Wasted feats.
Also you have guns but no gun feats and low perception.

>>389365428
No, I'm playing classic. Wish I had one more level right now so I could use the SMG I got. I'll keep an eye out for the brains. So far they only exposed them on attacks.

>>389365941
How is power management a waste?

>>389366049
Because the energy cap on deivices you craft with a good quality core is more than enough.

>>389365554
These defense skills are all or nothing. Put some points into traps, they are very nice.
Also mercantile is pretty useless.

>>389365827
>>389365941
>>389366241
This is what's hard about Underrail because you have to invest so much just to find out a build is not good. I've spent 57 hours in this game, have started over at least 5 times, and this is the furthest I've gotten. Now I feel like i need to start over yet again.
I just wanted a stealth hacker-type, kind of like what Ezra seems like.

>>389365220

You can do it both ways, but infiltrating gives you a lot of quests and some traders, so i would say its much better, just don't tell them that you did work for any of the core city factions

>>389366464

That build is not bad, and you can totally win the game with it, its just un-optimized

mercantille is bad, and evasion is bad aswell unless you put a lot of points in it, if you just leave them like that and put the rest of your points on other things its not that much big of a deal

>>389366663
thanks brah I'll do that

>>389366464
god what a faggot, why couldn't you just make a build you liked and stuck with it, rather than consulting powergamers on /v/ and having them solve the game for you. worked fine for me

>>389366464
>I just wanted a stealth hacker-type

You forgot that this game has fucktons of combat, get at least one combat skill and master it, you can still be a stealth hacker.
Also trading/money gain skills suck in pretty much every RPG, I can't think of a single one where they are actually useful.

>>389366826

Although you do seem to have put a lot of shit traits,
Disassemble is not that bad but you will not use it often thanks to the loss of quality, its mainly to sell some shit when vendors want parts instead of the whole item

Salesman is bad and a waste of a point just like mercantille

Power Management is good if you are going to craft energy shields

The rest of the traits are not bad, but you mixed some gun traits with psi, you really need to focus on either going psi for damage and guns for support or going guns and using the psi for support, you wont get enough traits for both

> Electronics, Tailoring, Hacking, Mechanics, Lockpicking required in every build.

Do you agree?

>>389367403
>hacking
>required

even lockpicking isnt a must

>still trying to play as a speech character
>can't intimidate the raiders under the compound
>end up killing them
>can't persuade or intimidate that guy in junkyard that makes you pay a toll
>pay the toll back up a bit and throw a molotov at him
>he and another thug burn to death while i kill the others
IT KEEPS HAPPENING

sick blog

>>389367403
no, do whatever you like. stop fucking up the game for me by discussing this shit

>>389367403
Lockpicking and hacking aren't nowhere nearly as crucial and if you want to make some sort of a weird hybrid like stealth/psi you can ditch them.
Crafting skills are useful but they don't need that much skill points, especially if your INT is around 8 (and it should be).

>>389367671
Unfortunately the social skills are trash.

>>389367671
>speech character
you mean a full psi build who can afford ~100-120 effective points in speech disciplines without sabotaging your combat viability in any way?

>>389364348
The only thing I throw are fireballs and ice grenades and that seems to work just fine.

>>389364994
This fucked me hard as unarmed but it's doable if you use tactics well.

>>389367939
you're missing out by not using grenades even on psi build, a molotov or gas grenade works miracles with psi wall

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>mfw stealing all the rathound king's traps

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>>389368151
>he starts disarming your own

>>389366826
Yeah, just max your main weapon skill and associated with weapon crating skills, other things are just a flavor.

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>can't afford infused armor because I accidentally wasted all my money on furniture

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>>389368151
>tfw helping him to cuck his worst enemy's son

It's was pretty tricky.

>>389367403

>Required

No

>Universally useful and no real reason not to take them

Yes

You're not supporting Protectorate, right, anon?
Reminder that while Drones are equally disgusting they are merely a tool of ridding south Underrail from the spread of that plague.

>>389368530
tfw couldn't figure out how to finish this quest, tfw brainlet

>>389364218

I only had a 5mm pistol, so I couldn't do shit against the beetles, even after they exposed their brains. I bought a bunch of grenades and blew them up instead.

>>389368072

>Psi build
>Grenades

besides very early in the game when you do not have the crucial psi abilities, why would you even want to use grenades, you get plenty of psi abilities that do the same but better

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>>389368694
Thinking man's fetish

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>Play through game early on.
>Go a dex stealth knife stabman build
>Get through entire game until endgame
>Literally cannot beat final boss due to game design.
>Stealth impossible
>Mission to get formula to weaken boss is broken.

Is this fixed?

>>389368781

The trick is pretty much only ever fighting 1 on 1 and healing afterwards (at least on hard, never played the other difficulties)

if you have psi early game is basically easy mode

>>389368828
Because grenades don't use psi points and if you're grabbing crafting skills, nothing stops you from making them. They are an excellent support for any build.

For example Toxic Gas Grenade applies a strong defence debuff on all enemies in area of effect. It can be combined with Enrage and psi wall to ward off a group of enemies who will do hilarious damage against each other and when psi wall goes down, survivors will stack an enormous defence debuff allowing you to quickly kill them.

>>389368997

The puzzle has always worked for me, and you can literally beat the boss with traps and grenades so you must be doing something wrong or made a pretty bad build

>stealth/trapper build vs carnifex

never savescummed so hard in my life

>>389369190
Is this puzzle really hard? Even that simple one from gauntlet made me take good 10-15 minutes.

>>389369182

But you can literally 1 shot pretty much every group of enemies with just that frostball thing or fireball

hell, mass enrage + fireball is more than enough and you don't risk missing a grenade if you didn't take throwing

>>389369360
>with just that frostball thing or fireball
Only if you're going psychosis route which is quite frankly a fucking garbage outside of burst damage.

>>389369334

It honestly depends in how good you are at puzzles, you can always look how to cheese it in the wiki

>>389369318
Any build that doesn't use heavy armor or has really high initiative gets shafted by carnifex and depends on save scumming

i mean you can always only wear heavy armor for that fight alone and cheese it that way but it really feels like a bad fight since you either tank him or go first and one shot him

>>389369495

But that really all you need, the only use i ever found for meditation was doing a telekinetic punch/proxy only build where you need the less psi costs instead of crit

>>389369756
You're trading godlike crowd control potential just to be a mediocre damage dealer with much narrower amount of uses, anon. In a game focused around crowd control it's not a good trade.

Does ability to lock doors with keys have any use in the game?

>>389369943

What crowd control are you trading, you can still use mass enrage or mass fear with it and thats all the crowd control you can ever need

>>389369190
Is pistol great against the boss? With w2c ammo perhaps?

>>389370165
A well-placed Disruptive Field or Psi-cognitive Interruption can turn the entire encounter around and with Psychosis you get an enormous psi point cost debuff with no benefits of Tranquility which allows you to cast quite a lot more per turn.

>>389370496

Totally doable if you made a decent build, but pistols are on the weaker side compared to rifles, smgs and snipers

>>389369630
>go first and one shot him

more like I go first and flashbang him, then run into the corner behind a pillar and end combat mode, then stealthily put down about 10 bear traps

>>389370752

The extra psi cost is just 25%, you still have more than enough psi for a big spell, specially since disruptive field costs barely nothing thus 25% of it is still nothing

you will never need more than 1 fireball/frost orb + a mass enrage or fear for a fight

even using those you probably still have enough psi to use some more cc, that crit on demand thing will basically one shot entire packs pretty much removing the need for cc anyways

also, you still have psi boosters if you ever need them, its not like there is a shortage of them, hell you are practically drowning in them by the end of the game

>>389371296

well yeah, the point is you either you have the initiative to go first or somehow survive the first combo with extra cheesing

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>Make an STR based unarmed/bleed build
>Roll around murder fucking everything like Doomguy
>RIP N TEAR
>Game is pretty easy
>Basically I am an immortal tank of blood and gore
>Get to Carnifex
>MFW

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>>389371853
Poor bastard died like a bitch in my game.

>>389371853

He does horrible things to heavy armor. Horrible horrible things.

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>>389371853
>not a DEX/Psi unarmed taste for blood stun crit build with 7 agility for sprit

>>389371528
>The extra psi cost is just 25
It's not "just", anon, it's an enormous penalty for a caster that severely cripples your casting ability and psi booster won't compensate it. And that's on top of a loss of formidable bonus Tranquility gives you. With psychosis you're just a mediocre damage dealer, not a full-fledged caster who can use the entire psi system to its fullest.

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>>389371853
>mfw i one shot him after save scumming for initiative

>>389368072
>implying

Between unarmed, dodging and evading, metathermics, muscle wizardy, lockpicking, hacking, and persuasion I literally have no room for anything. 5 of those skills are necessary for survival and the other 3 keep me from raging thinking I missed out on content because of an arbitrary skill check.

>>389366002
You're early enough that I say switch to oddity. Its the better way to play it and adds so much lore through the oddities you pick up.

And yeah beetles only reveal their brains when they attack but they lose their damage reduction so save your aimed shots for when they're exposed. You did take aimed shot level 1 yes?

who siphoner leather here

my dodge and evasion when

>>389372901
Unfortunately not. Just noticed I'm on version 1.0.0.0 aswell. I'm just going get the updates and restart.

>>389372465

You can still use any skill without any problem, and you are clearly insane to say mediocre damage dealer when a single fireball or cryokinetic orb will one shot entire packs of enemies with a single cast using the crit on demand skill

you get 1 use of a big damaging area spell and 1 use of crowd controll with it and thats more than enough for any enemy/pack in the game

and with a psi booster you get another one of each if you were ever to need it

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>>389362726
The problem with Abram is that he doesn't explain shit to you until you've done some of his quests, if you're roleplaying a character who wants to know what it's doing and the consequences of its actions then you're pretty much forced not to help him. Which means if you don't want to be locked out a ton of content, you're pretty much forced to play as an ignorant mercenary

>>389372976

Either that or ancient rathound for the mechanical damage reduction + cold and heat with infused leather

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I wish it had a map or something cause im baked 24/7 and while i dont need handholding quest markets n shit but i can really run around in circles without a fucking map,

I got to the deep caverns then kindof lost interest, i'll have to try to keep going sometime.

at junkyard
where can i get armor that doesn't suck

>>389373402
There are a alot of very well made fan maps, you dumb motioner.

>>389373402
There are a number of fan made maps, anon.

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>>389373804
>>389373818
>Alt tabbing
I wish i was a dualscreen masterrace

>>389372976
All I use and it barely gives me enough dodge total to make the skills worth anything using that leather on both boots and chest.

>>389373708
Check Leo's shop. But the best armor is a bear trap that you place between you and enemy with the best feat in the game, quick tinkering.

>>389373965

Or just get a screen big enough to have both open at the same time

>>389374505
>He doesn't play full screen

If I wanted to play a tiny ass window I'd just get a 3DS you dumb asshole.

>>389373965
Use your phone as a PDA for muh immersion. It's like you are the character.

>>389374161
>boots
>not weeb slippers

>run out of feats to take on my scientist
>three pointer since I use a lot of grenades
>those crits on my mark V grenades

Ooo baby

>>389374572

If your screen is so small that a windowed game is as small as a 3DS thats your problem, you can always get one big enough to play a game windowed like it was a common full screen

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>>389374572
Anon 1:
>I have a problem
Anon 2:
>Here are a couple solutions to your problem
Anon 1:
>REEEEE THIS UPSETS ME

>>389374757

Obviously we are talking about tabis here, they are just superior to boots in almost every build

>>389375140
chemistry is underrated. Those mk5 grenades decimate anything

How was I supposed to know that I can recruit people into Gorsky band before the assault? Does it change anything

It's possible to set the game's resolution higher than my monitor's native resolution. Will the game get magnified if I choose this option? It's so small.

>>389375384
Scientist has been my favorite build. Ive got all this amazing crafted equipment, insane grenades of all kinds, can one shot with amplified plasma and acid/fire chem pistol for CC

>>389375534
You mean lower?

>>389362726
Best questline in the game. That's why.
I didn't do it on my first run due to RP reasons though

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>/v/ tells me how to not fuck up the tchort interview
>I load up underrail to try it
>I realise I have no saves from before fucking it up

>>389374167
>check the wiki because i don't know who that is
>deep caverns
Funny

>>389376170
Fuck, I mean Len's shop. Armory in junkyard. Get riot armor for depot a.

>>389376353
Oh him
Thanks

Is electroshock pistol useful? I already have a taser for making execute shots.

>>389375541
Do you mind posting your character/build? It sounds like fun.

So I managed to get 72 stealth rating with a 0 stealth character so I could do Abrams 'Put the bug in the embassy vent' quest and no matter what SOMEONE FUCKING SEES ME. What fucking stealth rating do I need so I can sneak up behind the deputy and drop the fucking bug in the vent? It's driving me nuts

When is that new Expac coming out?
I want to start a new game but I want to wait until its out.

>>389377430
I just persuaded him to leave for a minute.
Do you have cloaking device? Just hide behind a corner and walk right to vents.

>cloaking device

stealthfag here, is this thing even useful? it seems to only give a small bonus to stealth and chugs energy, and I'm not sure the evasion bonus is worth it in fights to give up a slot for

>>389376168
wait how can you fuck up the interview except on purpose?

it's pretty clear when you're supposed to lie

heck you can even spend half the interview hitting on the tchortist taking it and still get admitted

>>389378178
you aren't making me feel any better

>>389378147
it also makes you invisible negating all lighting penalties
it's not outright mentioned but it's one of those things that are logical enough

its not heavy so it's useful to keep at least one of them in your inventory

>>389378237
if it makes you feel any better, by not doing the tchortist quests you can save quite a few innocents you otherwise wouldn't
downside is you don't get to meet all the bro tier tchortists god damn shame you couldn't save department heads, it feels so bad you can't even save the guy who shared his liquor stock with you

>>389378147
I used it to enter faction bases and rob them blind.

>>389377250
I'm at work so I can't now but it's based on this:
https://youtu.be/pcvvYIQFBzE

This guy has a bunch of archetype build videos.

>>389378505
I'll remember that while going through every area killing all these unarmed workers who run away and beg for mercy. guess I'll know better next playthrough

>>389378548
Thanks, thought it may have been different from NCGS'.

>>389378664
try to do pass the exam on a new playthrough, the research departments of the tchortists are basically filled with adorable nerds who're only in it for the science

>>389378147
>small bonus
I have with 46 stealth bonus, and it's not even the best.

>>389378756
np. I'm definitely of the mind that grenadier and three pointer are must haves on the build. You're making amazing grenades so take full advantage of them.

>>389378548
I'm also doing a scientist run, at deep caverns now. I feel like the chem pistol feat was a waste and stopped using those. They seem to have pretty short range and the damage is too low unless the effect procs. I'm using a 9mm hammerer as my main weapon and a plasma pistol for one-shotting things at close range with aimed shot. Rapid fire is amazing with the hammerer.

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>tfw enemy stuns you

>>389380290
The chem pistols do kind of taper off later but you're using them for effects and not damage. Grenades and plasma are the damage. Acid is still immense on groups, especially if you've stunned them and they have to walk through your puddles to get in range. Cryo is worthless all around and fire is only good against unarmored foes, specifically beasts. Practical physicist with a pistol or smg as a side arm is still a great choice too.

>>389380343
*resists*