Shills are not a real thing.

>>389340567
Fuck off Ubishill, no one is falling for it.

>>389340567
>Is there any way to discourage shillposting?
If you could get /pol/ to leave you might.

>>389340567
You're just new as fuck.
You weren't around for the storm of completely identical Borderlands shill threads.

They have gotten stealthier since then, but shilling is still a thing, and it works.

>>389340567
good thread

>>389340730
Not it isn't you are a retard.
Who would waste money advertising on a site where the posts disappear after a short time?

>>389340567
of course they are but most of them aren't paid
if i like a game of course i will talk about it and shill it like with a good movie or a book

>>389340567
1) Developers have and do come to this board for various reasons. This is a free-use internet site, and plenty of humans with time and opinions, regardless of occupation, come here. Some even frequent it.
2) If you think people do not pay other people to generate discussion for a game by talking about it, but not actually having a passion for it, you are naive.
3) If you want to discuss videogames, go to Reddit. /v/ is for discussing politics and memes with children.

>>389340567
You're a dumb motherfucker if you honestly believe shilling is not a thing.

On /v/ it reaches millions of people and you have to pay like 1 employee to keep some threads up and shitpost in them. Compared to most 'normal' marketing campaigns it's fucking free.

>>389340776
Gee, I don't know
Because it's cheap as dirt and sells for millions?
The potential for "viral marketing" is so insanely huge, and the price of entry is a bowl of rice to some third world spammers.

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>>389340567
Here is your (You) newfag

>>389340567
t. shill

>>389340694
/pol/ is an entirely different cancer that's plaguing this board, but I do agree that we'd be better off without them

>>389340730
Please, this is the same shit as when people pretended that Blizzard advertised Overwatch on this board.

Is it so hard to believe that certain games just appeal to large audience?

>>389340836
You're paranoid for believing that people would waste actual money on paying advertisers to post on boards instead of putting that money into creating trailers to garner actual attention on sites like YouTube.

>>389340784
Fair enough, but I don't think fans of a series would be referred to as "shills". If I like Fire Emblem and make threads about it to tell people to play it, that's not shilling, that's simply what this fucking board is for. Actual paid shilling is not a real thing, and it's become this cancerous board myth that people just believed after a while.

>>389340954
op gets (OP) haha here's your (You) friendo :D

Well it's well established that as a form of grassroots marketing posing as posters of online communities dedicated to a hobby is a thing that companies do to market themselves.

It is highly cost efficient; these places are free to post and have high levels of traffic. It's also effective, people are more susceptible to marketing when they don't recognize it as marketing.

Calling out every positive post as a shill is retarded but acting like they don't exist at all is too.

Also this thread is shitposting, meta-threads are not about video games and no constructive change will come from it, so you're just shitting up the board as much as the people you're complaining about.

>>389340910
Okay give me one legitimate source that legitimizes your claim.
By that I mean give me proof that a company has advertised on 4chan by paying people to do so.

>>389340776
> Pay a guy $1,500 to go on a site every day for a month and make a couple of posts about how your game is literally attacking white Christian Americans
> Pay $50-150k to purchase ad spots on high volume television channels during specific hours to run your expensive CGI trailer for a month

Gee, I dunno. Wonder which has more exposure-per-dollar there..

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>>389340567
>anonymous posting
>no need to make account
>frequented by A LOT of people daily

>better not use this absolutely free advertesment plattfrom by hiring some "social engineering" fuckers

It is another matter to spot these verminhi here OP.

its almost prime video game season again
give it a few weeks and youll start seeing dozens of threads in the same day with the same exact op about the same game

>>389341040
>Please, this is the same shit as when people pretended that Blizzard advertised Overwatch on this board.
It might be they did. It doesn't matter. There has been plenty of proof of shill spam here over the years, newfag.
Fucking Borderlands was the worst, but Brink was also fucking terrible.

>>389340567
Shilling isn't a thing but you should in all honesty check out Halo 5 by 343 industries. It's FREE on PC and still has a hot community. It's 10x better than Halo 3.

>>389341040
/pol/ basically engineered the use of the term shill and was the first board to use it in common parlance.

>>389341070
Lurk more and learn to use google, you fucking child

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>>389340567
eh, it's like "white knight", "sjw", "go back to /pol/", etc. meaningless insults in anonymous discussion

>>389341234
Go back to sjw, /pol/knight

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Of course people shrill here
We're one of the bigger and more influential game community.
Not just that but its so fucking easy here
Everyone is anonymous and all you have to do is post cute girls /v/ will flock to your game in drones.

If I made a daily thread saying
>/v/ likes Battleborn now
What the fuck happened?

How long would it take for some here to eventually start defending it a little?
In fact Gigantic was blatantly shrilling their game here I played it.

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>>389340567
You're joking, right? Capcom shills come here on a daily fucking basis to advertise. Not to mention how many times people have straight up admitted to shilling, like with that Ryse game or whatever.

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>>389341121
If you are paying for advertising you don't need /v/ to be aware of it to get exposure.
Meaning if you are a large company, you get passive exposure from game news sites and people who follow your releases.
If you are a small company you aren't going to shell out 1.5k to pay some somali with a laptop to shill your game on 4chan. And even if you did, I wouldn't call it shilling because it is likely nobody has heard of your game anyway.

>>389341067
Meta-threads are absolutely legit, though. And while nothing constructive may come from it, it might help raise awareness to how ridiculous people come across when they point and shout shill at every trailer on the fucking board.

Granted, while I agree that in theory shilling may be profitable, I'm very certain that the actual amount of shilling on this board is far lower than it's made to be. I'm very certain devs, especially start-ups who posted here to begin with use this board to advertise their game, and so will any other dev that frequents this board. But I highly doubt that large companies have the foresight to do so, let alone if they had it would bother to do so, because the amount of potential customers they could attract is very minor.

Reddit's a different story. It's no secret that plenty devs have a presence there, and I think it's also more "friendly" and well-known to the average marketer.

>>389341334
I did that for free though.

>>389341186
That is what I thought.
>use google
I said legitimate source.

>>389340567
Lolicons are not a real thing.

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>>389340567
>Shills that publishers hire have been 100% confirmed on Reddit, beyond any doubt, there's concrete proof that it happens and has happened
>Stupid fucking pedo animefaggot assumes they wouldn't also shill on a site that's EASIER to shill on (no signup, no account, no papertrail leading to any account info, very lax moderation, very large userbase etc.)

Fucking kill yourself you stupid pedophile cunt.

>>389341336
You are a ridiculous person. I get where you're coming from, but everything you think you know about this particular thing is wrong. Good luck with your life, I guess.

>>389341142
You need to stop hurling newfag as an insult because you disagree with someone's opinion. Spam is completely separate from shilling, and I think it's done mostly to piss people off, rather than to "shill" game. It just happens to have that side-effect.

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>>389341070
There's more.

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>>389340567
You'd be surprised.

>>389341497
Well then prove me wrong.
Show me where a game company has paid people to shill here and I will shut up.
I have looked for it, anything I find is either a thread from /pol/ or reddit post.

Its all shills to me since there arent any games worth buying anymore.

>>389341282
Battleborn has been become such a solidified meme that I don't think any amount of "shilling" would make people play it.

>>389340567
People will pay for advertising, you really think companies won't pay some faggot minimum wage to make posts about their games that can't be blocked by adblock?

Not only that but many fanboys shill for free, ffxiv and overwatch fags are prime examples of this.

>>389341592
W-wait Todd, I bought Skyrim like 5 times already!

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>>389341070
This guy was posting regularly for half a year before DMC's release.

>>389341623
Protip: The meme IS the advertising.

>>389341670
Sounds like a buttmad fanboy whose post turned into a copypasta

>>389341330
There's a difference between very determined fans posting about games daily, and actual shills paid by a developer to advertise their game.

The difference is that the latter doesn't exist on this board. Maybe 1 out of every 100 posts that are claimed to be shilling.

>>389341545
That does not prove anything.
I said a legitimate source, this is a sceencap of some 4chan posts that literally anybody (including someone who wanted people to believe people shills here) could have posted.

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>>389341070
This is just to prove that even small indie devs are well aware of the platform and not afraid to post.

>>389341351

>But I highly doubt that large companies have the foresight to do so, let alone if they had it would bother to do so, because the amount of potential customers they could attract is very minor.

Larger companies literally will hire entire teams of interns to drum up social media hype on websites like this. Dozens of people who will spend their entire days posting here (and elsewhere) about it.

Your understanding of how big the problem is is completely backwards.

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>>389341667
PAY FOR DLC

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>>389341667
But where is Fallout 4?

>>389341725
You're absolutely fucking retarded if you think this board doesn't have actual paid (and unpaid) shills.

4chan isn't the "most remote place in the world", it's one of the most used website in the world. This place isn't "underground" or whatever, seriously it isn't. https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/4chan.org
It stand to reason that shilling in here would be massively efficient and extremely easy. Thanks to the anonymity and meme culture people here will simply deny the existence of shills and parrot everything they read.

You're a market. You don't matter, your money do. The sooner you realize that the better.
People have successfully used advertising in more outlandish places. Do you sincerely think putting a cardboard cutout of some vidya protagonist in your local mall has more impact than a 300+ replies thread in 4chan? And which one is the cheapest?

>>389341754
What do you expect for proof then, a government approved document stating that there are fucking shills on 4chan?

>>389341670
You know sometimes I forget that some people have been here so few years that they cannot tell the difference between genuine posts and satire.

>>389341421
And how would that work? They make an anonymous post on this image board and then walk back to the publisher and tell them that they totally just shilled 100 people but they can't actually prove it because they don't actually have any account to verify them doing so. What, do they just screencap their 4chan post daily and send them to whoever's responsible at their department? These aren't fucking referral links. How do you even advertise yourself as a shill on here if everything's anonymous? Do marketing departments just hire random fucks off the street because they claim to be experts at advertising?

>>389341754
Maybe we can't 100% prove that there is paid shilling on the site, but similarly you absolutely can't prove there isn't and there has been a whole lot of suspicious shit on this board for the past 4 years.

stop bumping this shit thread

>>389341592
>>389341667
>>389341805
>>389341816
Ironic shilling is still shilling. Congratulations on playing into Zenimax's hands. Inb4 you stupid children post more "epic" le angry Todd faces at me.

>>389341768
Again, doesn't prove anything other than you want to believe what you are saying.

>>389341972
>asks for proof
>gets it
>"That doesn't prove anything"

The entire point of shilling is that it can't go detected. This is specifically why companies and devs DON'T shill on places like Reddit or NeoGAF. Because if you have a brand new account on there and you've made 10 posts and they're all identical posts about the same game and anyone can click on your name and see your post history, it becomes very difficult to shill effectively.

4chan however is arguably the BEST possible place on the internet to shill. Because everyone is anonymous it is significantly more difficult to detect shills which is PRECISELY why people shill on 4chan. The site is not a secret clubhouse anymore. It's a massively popular site that wields a large amount of cultural influence. If a game becomes popular on /v/ IT WILL get cross posted to places like Reddit, NeoGAF, Tumblr, Facebook etc. and IT WILL receive a noticeable financial bump as a result.

There are dozens of games that /v/ has popularized and game companies and devs are fully aware of this. Which is why they pay people to shill their games here.

tl;dr How much it is actually done is up for debate but if you think it doesn't happen at all you're a moron.

>>389341884
>>389341938
>Government approved document.
I would settle for literally any documentation at all that proved there are fucking shills on 4chan. Sceencaps don't even meet that criteria.
>>389341938
>Prove a negative because I cannot prove a positive.
.......Resulting to the same logic that religious people use to justify believing in something they have no evidence of really is not helping your point.

>>389341959
Ironic shilling is still shilling, yes, but it's for a different reason entirely. It's making fun of the subject matter, and honestly, it's really not half bad. Toddposting can be funny, and I don't really believe that Skyrim will get more or less sales from one or two guys posting some funny image of Todd in a Mario costume.

>>389342180
>Calls a 4chan post proof.
>WHY WON'T YOU ACCEPT MY PROOF?
Because your proof is fake and gay.

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>>389341959
But Fallout 4 is a legitimately good game that the other anon should buy.

>>389342229
Still, what kind of fucking document do you expect and why would anyone bother collecting it?

It's fucking 4chan, screenshots are the best thing you'll get.

>>389341725
This is rubbish, I have a friend that works as a community manager and I know he posted the most recent game his company put out a a year ago numerous times at launch here. He also posts in the generals on /vg/

>>389342193
If shilling was a real thing Battleborn would have been massively popular. The amount of threads that have been made about it are ludicrous, and you know what they say, any kind of publicity is good publicity. Then why did it fail? Because it's a shit game and shilling isn't a real thing.

People just hype about already popular games and then pretend the fact that they got excited about it was the sole reason the game was popular.

>>389342376
That's literally what I said earlier. People that were browsing 4chan to begin with will obviously hype their game here. But there's a difference between a community manager hyping up his game on one the websites he frequents because he obviously wants the game to sell well and literal random fucks that publishers supposedly picked off the street and gave 10 bucks to post on fucking 4chan.

>>389342396
Shilling = advertising.

Advertising is about making people aware of your game and updates, they aren't mind control you silly fag.

>>389342336
>Just believe everything you hear here because it is what it is my man, why would you need to see proof of something before believing it brah?
Nah.

The shill thing is just a way for /v/ to cope with the fact that people might like/be excited for things they don't like

I could write a nice post about why Dragon Age Inqusistion is a good game and one of my favorites and /v/ would just call me a shill

>>389342396
Sometimes marketing campaigns fail. Why would shilling be any different.

>>389342280
What exactly do you want anon? A peer reviewed scientific paper on shills and their salaries? Or do you want a documentary where companies like Blizzard talk about how they advertise on the "racist, sexist, gamergate 4chan"? Plenty of indie game devs have posted on here, Notch did, there was some kerbal space program guy who used to post in /kpg/ before all the shit went down with that, Risk of Rain guy came from the game dev general. To think that companies don't see this as a cheap and effective way to advertise would be ignorant, plus you add on the fact that a guy from EA games was giving games out on Origin way back in 2012, before this last wave of newfags and popularity, it's almost certain companies are shilling on here.

>>389340567
>What can we honestly do to improve this board?
Use the report button and stop posting garbage just because someone else is.

>>389342546
Fair enough, but it's still a bit annoying because it reinforces the myth.

DA:I was pretty alright. But it did have some nasty elements to it, like having to wait real-time.

>>389342396

>If shilling was a real thing Battleborn would have been massively popular.

What kind of fucked up retarded logic is this. That's like saying advertising doesn't work when a movie with a huge advertising budget flops. You're an idiot.

>>389342546
>I could write a nice post about why Dragon Age Inqusistion is a good game and one of my favorites
Please do. I could use a good laugh.

>>389340567
Fuck hype trailers, and fuck devs hyping their game with no game play involved. And to answer your question it's been around since at least TORtanic and maybe sometime prior to it.

>>389342613
Again, I would believe it if I had seen ANY documentation proving a connection between a game publisher and an advertiser that is know to use 4chan to do so.

Why is the concept of being a skeptic such an outrageous thing to you?

>>389342613
Different anon, but yeah, I would like that. Right now all of this is is just hear-say and people stirring up drama to get reactions. Shills aren't a real thing just because some people claim they're totally 100% real, and they won't be real no matter how many screenshots of people you post that supposedly confirm their existence.

List of anons who are shills:

>Anons whining about /pol/
>Anons making threads about Horizon, Life is Strange, Uncharted etc
>Anons posting left wing opinions

any more?

I won't make the claim that shilling never happens, but it just annoys me that people will call posts that are sincere hype shilling just to not hear a positive opinion about something, or falling for a falseflag shill or troll, calling it a legit shill.

>>389342834
t. /pol/

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>>389341959

>>389342578
>>389342689
Gee, it's almost as if when people claim literally every game in existence is being shilled it's kind of hard to deny that when a game is successful it's totally because it was shilled and not because it was good or anything.

>>389341182
How fucking new are you

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>>389342862
/pol/ is the essence of 4chan

fuck off to reddit

>>389342852
Like this guy. >>389342834 He'll seriously call anyone who doesn't tout ha political opinions as a shill. This is the shit I'm talking about.

>>389342908
/pol/ is the cancer of 4chan.

>>389342834
Congratulations, you perfectly illustrated my point of why shills aren't actually real and are a fabrications of /pol/tards like you.

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>>389342909
>>389342953
>>389342964

>>389342908
>>389342901
>/pol/ getting defensive on boards other than their own.
Imagine that.

>>389342908
>>389342953
/pol/ is full of retarded people who will stop at nothing to make sure that everybody knows that their opinion is the right opinion

>>389340567
>there are no shills here
100% lie, OP confirmed for faggot

This thread has nothing to do with games, report and stop bumping it.

>>389342758
What documentation do you want? Screencaps are the best you're gonna get because no company is ever gonna publicly admit to shilling here.

>>389343040
the only people who think /pol/ are wrong are paid left wing shills

>>389342997
I thought people who worship molymeme would know that is not an argument.

>>389342997
Low IQ is a hell of an affliction

>>389343102
It's almost as if they're not admitting to it because they're not doing it.

>>389340567
You just report retard who spam "shill".

>>389342774
>>389342758
I'm all for skepticism, but as of right now, signs point more towards the existence of shills than not. I believe it's incredibly overstated, but the constant posting of the same picture with the same text over and over seems like a cheap way to get discussions about the game going. Others aren't as lazy and hide better. I think the reason no company is going to admit it is from the stigma that comes with the 4chan name, especially after the whole gamergate thing. I sincerely don't know, but do companies generally disclose how they market? I mean for conventional advertising, it's easy to see on a TV commercial or pop up on a website, do they ever give out documentation on everywhere they advertised?

great work not deleting this offtopic bait thread that is going to descend into crossboard shitflinging

>>389343001
>newfriend gets called out
>resorts to "everyone I don't like is /pol/"
wew lad

>>389343075
Aww come on man I am having fun.

>>389343140
>>389343075
>t. shills

>>389343143
>the constant posting of the same picture with the same text over and over seems like a cheap way to get discussions about the game going.
You're thinking surface-level. That's just spamming/trolling, or some asswipe who wants to seem like a shill to bait/annoy people.

>>389343152
To be fair, think of it as a containment thread, else the crossboard shitflinging would happen elsewhere on the board

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>>389340567
There probably was and still is shilling on /v/, but barely any of the posts accused of being shilling actually are. There is a MUCH stronger case to be had for shitposting than shilling for most of those posts, especially when they are really blatant. You will never get rid of this meme, or of shitposting in general, as long as 4chan is anonymous. Not that there is any need to actually hire shills, mind, because "ironic" shitposters fulfill the same purpose by exaggeratedly shilling to "show" those darn shills. They instigate discussion of the game.

The point is, shitposting is so much worse for absolutely any element of this website and the minds of the people who browse it than shilling could ever be.

But if anyone actually thinks that developers need to pay people to talk about their game on 4chan, they are far off base. The people on this page will do it for them, for free, and then accuse each other of being paid for it.

>>389343139

Or it's almost as if the entire crux of successful viral marketing is that you don't admit to doing it.

faggot

>>389343328

This is the real truth.

>>389343143
>The signs point to it.
What are you trying to be a fucking shaman now?
>BY THE POWERS OF GAMERGATE I SUMMON YOUR LOYALTY!!!!
hahahhahaha
>but do companies generally disclose how they market?
I think a better question to ask would be do the companies that use advertisers have a clause in their contract that states they have no right to disclose publicly the methods used to generate interest in the game.
But yeah, word would have gotten out as this place is known for anonymity and surely one of these paid advertisers would wander across it.
>>389343157
>Called out.
What are you some teenager from fucking Modesto, California?
>wew lad
Ah, so you are THAT new.

>>389343328
This might be the first legitimate argument anyone's made so far. I naturally don't deny the fact that shilling has been done or is being done on and off, but not even remotely to the same degree than everyone wants to make it seem.

>>389343260
I don't question the autism of 4chan, but the autism usually doesn't take form in the free same advertisement for the game. You're right that shit like that happens sometimes, and goes back to my point of there not being nearly as much going on as some people seem to think, but there's cases where it's obvious it is a constant push to advertise the game.

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>>389343328
yeah who would ever market on this board where it's free and easy as fuck to post and there aren't even any rules against reposts or using bots to post hmmmm makes me think

>>389340567
like everything else, shilling is largely misunderstood and overblown by /v/tards but it does exist. keep in mind, the publisher doesn't necessarily conduct operations on 4chan but rather they hire social marketing agencies whose own strategies include 4chan, along with reddit, twitter, facebook and whatever other channel they think could produce results

just like with spam, it isn't necessarily about how effective a channel might be, but that any hit justifies the cost because of how low the costs are

>>389343173
>The cornered /pol/ troglodite staggers forward and attacks with his fallback attack: calling them leftists!
>The opponent in turn mocks him, having spent years amoungst his tribe he knew that this was the final cry of desperation upon exhausting all other options.

>>389343139
Why would they need to? Like I said nobody wants their company associated with 4chan so what would they gain from admitting they shill here?

>>389343586
>troglodite
>amoungst
>this whole post

horrific. anti pol whiners need to be permabanned on sitre to fix /v/

>>389343548
My question to you is:
Are you looking forward to all the duo bots?

>>389343430
So you're basically saying that there is no documentation that can be leaked that you would trust, so no way to provide this proof you need? I'm confused by how having paid advertisers coming across it would provide any of the documentation you require for proof. Or if you're saying word would have gotten out, you could look at this post
>>389341545
to show word had gotten out, and is proved by him giving people with Origin accounts free games. I guess not since screencaps don't mean anything to you, so what specific documentation with word of it coming out would you need? A tweet? An in depth article from a "trusted" game magazine?

>>389342758
There's a difference between being a skeptic and being stubborn. You're the latter.

Someone has the CoD dinosaur shill?

>>389343626
Yes, my point exactly. The existence of shills hangs entirely on unconfirmed claims that will never be confirmed because nobody actually wants to associate themselves with this place.

By that logic we're also currently invaded by space aliens that erase your every memory of them once you stop looking at them. Can't disprove it, so it must be true.

Learn that just because something is possible or "theorteically profitable" doesn't mean it's actually happening.

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>>389343965
>"You didn't see NOTHIN goy!"

>>389343651
>But the TROGLODYTE had a secret attack scroll hidden in its pocket! From AMONGST the viscera of his previous victims he had scavenged it.
>99 damage to himself by using the snob appeal fallacy on a board where people know what it is.

>>389344080
Thanks for the chuckle.

>>389344081
really an awful post from a mediocre mind

/pol/ is so pathetic that it can't resist making a thread not about them, about them

>>389343965

What do you think of this article from 5 years ago anon?

http://www.cinemablend.com/games/EA-Viral-Marketing-Exposed-Big-Buyout-Horizon-40885.html

>>389344152
>waah muh pol :(

mods: ban posts like these on sight and the board will improve tenfold

>>389344197
You're the first one who mentioned politics.

>>389343651
Sitre? Ramesses wife?

>>389342683
[Spoiler] i actually dont mind the real time war table missions but i wish they would let me do them from camps and bases instead of having to go back to skyhold

>>389343863
>I am stubborn because I have a standard of proof that requires more than screen-caps on a anonymous imageboard.
Right.
>So you're basically saying that there is no documentation that can be leaked that you would trust
That is not at all what I am saying and have said repeatably that I would accept any proof that showed a connection between a game company and an advertiser known to use 4chan to do so.

>>389344197
>m-mods pls ban anti-/pol/ stuff on non-/pol/ boards!!
Pathetic.

>>389343965
It might not be 100% confirmed but there's plenty of evidence no matter how much you think it doesn't count.

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>>389344190
>up on the 4Chan forums

>>389344197
Hahaha, you think this board will ever improve. As opposed to just get worse with time, like it's been doing.

>>389344280

Have you looked at this article yet?
>>389344190

>>389344310
I know it's disgusting anon, I just hope it fits OP's autistic criteria for proof.

>>389344190
Just read the article, all it does is report on a user that claims he worked for EA and shilled games. This proves nothing, again. I don't know what you want me to say.

>>389344451
what constitutes proof in your eyes, marketer-kun? give examples

>>389344269
That's not how you do spoilers.

>>389344280
You said you would except ANY proof. You were given posts of people admitting they shilled. In your mind, is a confession not proof? It's good that enough for the judicial system.

>>389344138
>The abomination defeated, it let out its dying cry, an ad-hominem insult.
Calling me a mediocre mind after I just painted a rpg battle scene adapted to debate and board culture disputes is kind of desperate considering your creativity in this battle of wits has amounted to that of a middle school student.

>>389344506
Goddamn not that guy but stop calling people on the other side of your argument a shill just for being on the other side of your argument. It's infantile and annoying.

>>389344506
Some actual big head honcho publisher that openly admits to paying literal nobodies to shill specifically on 4chan.

>>389344565
your posts are leftist tier

>>389344570
>getting this mad because his shilling isnt working

cuck

>>389344601
so something that is impossible to attain. ok retard.

>>389344451

Maybe acknowledge the fact that the article I have from 5 years ago with self professed viral marketers combined with the numerous screencaps posted above constitutes enough evidence that yes, sometimes people are paid to post about things on 4chan. It's not that far and away a concept to grasp.

>>389344570
This is how this whole cancer spread in the first place. It's like the whole cuck meme (god bless we're mostly over that), it was retarded and not funny.

>>389344565
I don't know man, your mind seems pretty mediocre. Do you have proof it isn't?

>>389344387
>http://www.cinemablend.com/games/EA-Viral-Marketing-Exposed-Big-Buyout-Horizon-40885.html
>Someone claiming to have worked with EA sprouted up on the 4Chan forums
Again. Need more than a 4chan post. Even if it is hosted on a gossip website.

>>389344640
Yeah. Let's instead believe anonymous users on an image board that their dad totally works for Nintendo and although he can't actually prove it he absolutely shills his games here.

>>389344601
>I want proof that doesn't exist

>>389344769
it's pretty obvious when people that are not native to 4chan and /v/ post here

this thread has a good proportion of anons that fit this bill, you included

>>389344563
>People on 4chan admitting they are shilling is proof of companies paying people to shill on 4chan.
Still isn't actually.
What if people just want other people to believe that there is shilling happening to subvert and opposing minority view on the board?

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>>389343548
Think about it this way. Consider how little effort it is to post the same post over and over again. That's all it takes to make you mad enough to take a screenshot and repost it on 4chan yourself. I could start doing that right now. Just pick some random game and post the same thing over and over for 2 weeks and people would take me for a shill. No promise of monetary payment, no affiliation with the product itself, an effort of literally less than a minute per day. My payoff would be successful shitposting and months worth of mad because people like you would rather blame some industry boogeymen than bored, jaded teenagers having a laugh at the probably not undeserved expense of devs and publishers.
And that makes so much more sense to me than the constant ceaseless viral marketing you guys make it out to be. You are on fucking 4chan. Sure, there are people advertising their games here, but most well-adjusted internet-savvy people, especially those aiming to make money off of videogames steer clear of this place. How is shitposting not a far shorter leap of logic than actual honest to god shilling?

>>389343965

It's pretty simple Anon. While we might not have definitive proof that marketers shill on /v/ we do have definitive proof that:

1) Shill style marketing exists and is getting more and more popular on the internet considering everyone just blocks ads these days.

2) There are some very strange cases on the archive of people making identical posts over and over again about a new game or feature that we need to check out.

3) Gaming companies are notorious for having over inflated advertising budgets and are always trying to make their games go viral through social media.

It doesn't take much to connect the dots.

>>389344776
Imagine if the court of law operated under this logic. It would mean that anyone is guilty until proven innocent, and that's actually retarded and that's why they stopped doing that.

If you want to prove that shills exist, provide proof. Don't blame your opponent that he wants you to proof your claim.

>>389344838
>it takes no effort to make a post that will give your game more exposure

so why wouldn't a marketing firm do this? the more eyes on your product the better. please read some Edward Bernays or something you ignorant mongoloid

>>389344640
You know just saying the same things over and over again just shows people you have no way forward in the debate.
At least frame it creatively you know?
Like why not? We are all here willingly yes? Why would you just mindlessly type out responses to someone you are replying to every post they make?
Seems like someone, WHO IS BEING PAID TO DO SO! OMG SHILLS DO EXIST GUYS I WAS WRONG THE WHOLE TIME.

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>>389344838
>i-it's just SHITPOSTING!!!!!
jesus christ the damage control is palpable

>>389343231
I've gotten retards like you banned though :^)

>>389344838
This guy gets it.

>>389344956
You know, ironically enough, any marketing firm worth it's salt would realize the futility of advertising on here because anything is being called a shill at the moment so it would be counter-intuitive.