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The only decision that matters GOTHIC? or MILANESE?

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The only decision that matters

GOTHIC?

or

MILANESE?
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>>389337476
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Aesthetic wise Gothic, but historically renaissance armor was newer and offered a better protection.
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>>389337476
neither.
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>>389338740
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>>389337476
Milanese because fuck your English arrows.
>>389338740
Looks bretty neat.
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>>389337707
All plate mails are Renaissance armours.
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>>389339506
Fuck, I'm dumb, I meant plate, not plate mail. Different things!
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>>389339463
It's in the league of "Laff n grow fat" armor.
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Its a better investment to equip several dudes with mass produced Milanese armour than just protecting your ass in Gothic armour.

Unless this is some 1 on 1 duel
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Scottish 2bh
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>>389337476
black knight has the edge over gold knight
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>>389337476
Nipple flowers look retarded so I choose right.
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I'm a big fan of the "raggedy bits of leather haphazardly stitched to black curtains" look

Reminder that this show has won 3 Creative Emmys for costume design
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>>389340987
What show ? the one constantly showing tits ? if yes sure it'll win as long there is tits.
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goethic
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Gothic for pure aesthetic reasons


and because I like edgy shit
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>>389341032
I'm guessing vikings, if so it's more shlickbait
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style>realism
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I CHOOSE RAPTURE
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>>389340987
How did we go from the great designs in Season 1 to this?
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>>389341167
That's not stylish, it's far too busy

You can do stylish and realistic, like so
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>>389341167
Implying real armour isn't stylish as fuck
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>>389337476
Fluting looks nice.
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why is video game armor so shit
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>>389341167

>Form over function

You seem to be in the wrong site.
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Real life is full of stylish and wacky designs, I don't know why they don't just draw on some more obscure parts of history
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>>389340987
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCNum4YAXSc
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I think Late Roman armor is pretty swish
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>>389341484
>spear casting a shadow on the guy behind him
pretty neat desu
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>>389341310
>o shite a crossbow
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>>389341379
It's not even obscure. People simply have this notion that history was brown and drab.
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>>389341379
>devs don't make good realistic armor
>devs don't make good fantasy armor
WHAT ARE THEY GOOD FOR!?
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>>389337476
Gothic is a meme perpetuated by dumb hipsters who don't want to admit that their shit got rightfully slapped by Milanese
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>>389341595
reddit x-d
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>>389341312
Well, those are Romanised Celts on the right to be fair, but I don't understand why concept artists don't just take something like that and, say, add organic decoration like paint and leather ON TOP of that in order to stay accurate or possible.
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>>389341379
No anon we need more raggedy brown leather and ridiculous spiky demon armor
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The Polish Winged Hussars were the most aesthetic thing ever
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>>389341637
When they can actually get to this point is when they can make good armor period
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Video game designers often don't even know how real armor works and what the advantages of armor are, so they just design it to be "cool"
Same with creatures in video games. They don't want to make them realistic, as they don't know how animal or human anatomy works.
I hate video game art designers.
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>>389341839
Who's that 5head dark elf dude?
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>>389341907
that's a girl with a headdress
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>>389341794
Ok that's some damn fine armor. Are those actual feathers on the "Wing"?
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>>389341794
They stole it from the Japanese.
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>>389341936
No he meant far left.
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Are there any games with helmet crests that actually physically swoosh around?
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>>389341839
This image is weird, the technical skill is undeniable but the composition is weird, I have no idea who's fighting who, are they even fighting? It's so static, the trolls (?) look like toys/3D renders for some reason.
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>>389342075
I'm actually surprised more armies didn't employ the whole "stick a banner to your back" approach. Wasting soldiers on dedicated bannermen seems like such a waste.
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>>389341941
Yep. Historians aren't 100 percent on whether they were worn into battle or not but most of the hussars had one or two "wings" with eagle feathers
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>>389342220
I think you might be legit blind, my niggah.
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>>389342348
The lower image is generic wowified fantasy art, but the upper isn't aesthetically pleasing either. They're both off-putting in their own ways.
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look at his tiny axe
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>chainmail on the feet
literally why
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>>389342492
>wanting to stub your toes
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>>389342347
That's fucking neat. I need more armors like this in my life.
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>>389341872

It "looks" cool

But you wont see shit, be hot and out of breathe all the time
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>>389341941
It was mounted to the back of the saddle, every armour set with 2 wings attached to the back is some 18th century bullshit made up by collectors and shitty historians.
But lion skin pelts + single wing are aesthic as fug
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>>389342439
>Meant to over protect his dick
>The notch is long enough to get caught in any downward cut, thus defeating the purpose

Poor ideas in general
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>>389337476
Neither, they both look retarded. Why do they have a stupid skirt on? Where are the pauldrons? Why do the gauntlets look like oven mitts?

I'll take fantasy armour any day of the week.
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>>389342684
I mean fair, still neat. I'd be intimidated seeing a bunch of fuckers with wings rushing at me on horses.

Also, good fucking taste anon
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>>389342656

Lamaller type armour takes far more time making and maintaining compared to plate. Its also just as heavy if not more for inferior protection.

A piece of plate can take many hits, wheras a Lamaller can come apart quickly if a few pieces are pulled apart.
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>>389342723
>not having murderboner mid-combat
>not parrying incoming strikes with your dick
Are you a pussy, anon?
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>>389341839
>dumb white male paladin is on the front line doing all the work while the black male of superior intellect stays back with the blonde white woman
this image was really ahead of its time
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FLAVIUS
>y-yes Marcus
I REQUIRE MORE FEATHERS
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>>389342492
the gothic armor has chainmail too, it's just under the plate instead of over top of it
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>>389342625
I've worn a sallet+befor before and it was pretty fucking hard to see out that. If it wasn't strapped on properly, or if the helmet was too big for your head, one jerky movement would twist it and leave you 100% blind. Also, the bevor covered your nose and mouth when up, so your breath was always condensing against it.

Something like that helm above looks like it would be better to see with and make no difference with breathing. It's probably a weaker structure though.
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>>389337476
Brigandine or a jack of plates.
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Is this the femboy of knight armor?
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>>389342976
>Parade armour

All those cool ones with lions and shit on them werent used in war. At least not by anyone expected to do any actual fighting.

Its like taking your ferrari to pick up some furniture at ikea.
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>>389342440
>Traditional painting done in the style of neoclassical period with an emphasis of realistic contrapposto
>By THE most well known fantasy artist of the gaming realm
>Who has done artwork for many video games and other fictional works such as Diablo and Dragonlance
>off-putting
You really are a millenial, just stop posting and leave the thread already.
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Daily reminder that to the average person this is good looking armor
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>>389342816
Takes less skill though, and you can mass produce it easier. Full plate takes real craftsmanship, but any amateur can make some scales. Also, plate has to be made for the specific person pretty much, whereas this could fit almost anyone.
I think chainmaille is better in those regards though. Seems less prone to breaking and easier to patch up.
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>>389343110
>woolen chainmail
is it 1953?
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ARE YOU READY TO DANCE CAN CAN FOR THE TIN CAN?
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>not dressing up in a big yellow bedsheet
Plebs
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>>389340973
What the fuck kind of nipples do you have that are coming out of your armpits?
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>>389341907
Erudites, super smart black people who sailed off to make their own homeland, eventually they would split off into 2 different groups, namely the necromancers, shadowknights, and wizards/mages who supported their efforts and the paladins, clerics and wizards/mages who were against them, the fight the two had with each other was so magically intense that they blasted a cylindrical chunk of the planet, off the planet and into the moon.
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>>389343219
I hear ya mang
>Anglos will never be this /fa/
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>>389342439
>this knight has been trained to fuck your mouth
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>>389343097
>Traditional painting done in the style of neoclassical period with an emphasis of realistic contrapposto
>By THE most well known fantasy artist of the gaming realm
>Who has done artwork for many video games and other fictional works such as Diablo and Dragonlance

You made it sound even more offputting, jesus that artist has no aesthetic sense whatsoever. Just embarrasing.
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>>389343110
I'm pretty sure it's meant to look bad, considering the character was a joke in the show.
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>>389342754
The have pauldrons though, also that bitch is not only canonically dead, but her production has been discontinued as well.
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>>389337476
Bullshit overdesigned trash. Look at all this ridiculous heavy metal. You'd be so slow and exhausted. I'd rather be a peasant in rags with only my vitals covered and a sledge hammer. As soon as I knock this guy over he's fucked.
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>>389342220
>I have no idea who's fighting who
is it really that hard to follow where their eyes are looking at?
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>>389343596
damn i would hate to be hit with a sledge hammer and then gang raped by you and your peasant buddies
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>>389343110

The Tyrells were always meant to be the super romantic version of knights and nobility even though the world they live in was shit. Those values were a hinderance and their value as soldiers were questionable. Especially compared to the hardened and plain Stark or Greyjoy soldiers.
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post fancy but functional
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>>389342439
my dude wearin the air force nones
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gothic but milanese is cool aswell
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>>389342220
completely agree I think it fails to look three dimensional
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>>389341839
The style of that pic is like those covers off fantasy books from decades ago, I like it
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>>389343017
It's the closest you'll get to with any mainstream fantasy or medieval video games and for most single A or indie video games as well. Artists are gonna art and in any video game where the player can see the armor, most players are going to want to be able to see the details of their armor at an appreciable distance while in game.
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>>389342723
It's mean to make the knight seem more masculine, and therefore intimidating. It's the same reason there are pigfaced masks and contorted horror faces on some of them. You're making your opponent feel inferior before the fight has even begun.
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>>389341167
>>389341367
form over function all day every day
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>>389343769
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>>389341794
I'd pick hussar armor over anything in the OP
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>>389343097
>fantasy artist of the gaming realm
It's funny you think this is a compliment.
>You really are a millenial
I was born in 1987, so I sure am!

>>389343616
Well the blonde mage chick on the right seems to be just posing and Yakub is checkin' her out. You're supposed to cover your dragon bro's flank, nigga!
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>>389337627
MADMAN
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>>389343616
The wood elf and dark elf bitch don't look like they're facing each other.
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>>389343641
Don't hit on me you silly nobles
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>>389341839
Keith [s]Emerson[/s] Parkinson?
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Name one video game with nice plate armor options.
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we trained him wrong as a joke
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>>389343854
Isn't form over function the reason why zerosuit Samus is more popular and most people think her in her power armor is a different character with the same name?
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>>389341794
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75zmIj_4LFQ
The only reason I know of their existence.
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>>389341839
Yakub?
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>>389343097
>implying you're not a millennial
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>>389341839
why haven't we got a MMO with a classic painted fantasy aesthetic yet? EQN was the closest we would get and even that was far off.
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>>389341794
that looks very ottoman-influenced
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>>389343871
This one is REALLY good though, I like it much better than this: >>389341839
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>>389337476
the one that doesn't have circle tits
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I want to have an armor with a cape. Looks so awesome..
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>>389343971
Dark Souls?
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>>389344128
>tits come out from your armpits
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powered armor so knightly aesthetics can return when?
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>>389344106
They literally slaughtered the Ottomans, that's what the winged Hussars are known for in terms of actual battles.
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>>389344223
cool airsoft gear brah, you going to the quad later?
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>>389344106
To be fair the Ottoman Empire had a pretty nice aesthetic in it hayday. I always loved the look of Killij and Janbiya over straight swords and mail breakers.
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>>389340987
The Freys are meant to be poor.
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>>389340987
Is this from the Netflix Witcher adaptation?
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>>389344412
hobo-armor poor?
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>>389343097
Wow way to get defensive!
The composition is bad.
Yeas the new version is even worse, but whoopdeshit.
The original still has terrible flow.
Why are some of the people facing the "camera" whilst others are fighting?
Why is the ranger on the far right so tall?
Dude, calm your saggy tits the fuck down and accept that sometimes, the most technically savvy artists can in fact paint a dud.
Fuck.
And going straight for the millennial thing?
I dunno about that other poster, but I'm in my mid thirties, played ever quest back when it was new, but the art for it is still badly arranged.
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>>389344303
It's spelt "heyday".
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>>389342347
I heard that the wings made a weird whistling noise that used to freak out people who they were fighting.
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>>389344516
Well I'm a dumb fuck I guess. Never could spell for shit.
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*kicks you in the dick*
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>>389337476
Step aside gramps
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>>389344223
Knightly aesthetics won't ever return.
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>>389343971
Mount & Blade Warband
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>>389343692
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>>389341839
>"Dayyum girl, dat some nice tiddies rite there."
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>>389343971

Exanima.
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>>389341742
The sort of mouthbreather normies who buy trash like ryse think that 'muh chaos-viking-orc' look is SHO BADASH DOOD, ergo every 'barbarian' culture looks like that no matter the era or historical record.
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>>389344795
>complains about "derailing"
do you have any fucking idea how this site even works

why don't you complain to mods about a thread being derailed, or maybe downvote my posts so they aren't showing
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>>389342958
Brother!
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>>389344813
Why are the lower halves so often missing?
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>>389344795
nigger
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Styling on u
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>>389341312
Characters in vidya are generally recognized by their silhouette, or one or two easily spotted attributes. Having a whole mob of guys all wearing very similar helmet/mail and carrying (weapon) and (medium shield), it'd be hard to pick out different "types."
So you get the fast guy who's skinny and carries two swords, the medium guy who's got a shield, and the big guy who's fuckhuge and has a two handed flail and horns on his helmet.
Makes it easier to immediately pick out different guys.
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>>389345130
Its called half-armor for a reason.
Costs less than a full set, I guess. And move easier.
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>>389343971
Fuck it, I'm naming multiple!

Exanima
Diablo
Baldur's gate/ iwd 1&2 etc
Dork souls
Demon's souls
Modded skyrim

action games:
For honor
War of the roses (ded)
Chivalry (pre micro tranny bullshit)
Mordhau (when tho?)
Mountain blade (sort of rpg?)
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>>389344027

Yes
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>>389344795
He posts.
Adding fucking nothing to the thread.
>b-but I was m-making people see how b-b-bad thread derailing is!
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>>389341310
It's funny how everyone uses "thou" as if it was formal when in reality it was phased out for being so informal it was seen as rude.
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>>389342754
god, why 40k looks awful than fantasy?
>dude pauldrons xD
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>>389342490
Axelets, when will they learn?
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>wearing anything into battle
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curiass and MAYBE a sallet or kettle > everything else
minimal decoration and smooth, single plates are something all should strive for
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>>389343097
This is b8
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>>389345787
Well Fantasy looks like this now
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>>389345937
LITTLE
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>>389341627
That's because brown and drab is what people like now, history was fucking gaudy.
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>>389345937
Picts didn't fight naked, that's a myth.
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>>389343997
someone stream it
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>>389346142
picts or it didn't happen
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>>389346012
what went fucking wrong
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Ok but to add more depth to this, what's the best weapon?
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>>389341379
>No one ever recognizes how colorful armor and clothing was back in history

I hate this, the dark ages doesn't mean the world was literally dark you dense fucks. It's even worse when they go to churches in movies/vidya and they are just flat white with simply crosses. That didn't come around until the Protestant reformation, before that church's always had tons of color painted on their interior walls.
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>>389346203
Okay, here
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>>389346160
here
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>>389346012
holy hell, they just dont give a shit anymore
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Gothic is pure sex in terms of fluting and coverage
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>>389346280
People really like Space Marines.

The Chaos stuff is back to being weird as fuck though, so it's not all bad.
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>>389346384
Thanks. :)
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>>389345130
Hitting below the belt was seen as cheap, and back then large-scale combat was generally honourable. Both sides were organised, met at an agreed location, and charged at each other without all this namby-pamby cheap win stuff. No leg armor allowed you to be more mobile.
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>>389346442
Could you post some? Just woke up and can't move my hands yet..
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>>389345308
Also far better for long term wear. You only have about 15 minutes or so of actual combat before you need to get out of there in full plate or you start to get serious risk of heat exhaustion. Which is good as knights preferred method of combat was the "charge through the enemy lines and go to their camp to eat all their nice food while the battle rages on"
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>>389346384
Nice
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>>389346485
>Hitting below the belt was seen as cheap, and back then large-scale combat was generally honourable. Both sides were organised, met at an agreed location, and charged at each other without all this namby-pamby cheap win stuff.
Please never talk about history again

Unless you are b8ing, I'm which case I'm falling for it
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>>389346515
Nah, I'll pass. I don't want to waste hiroshimoot's bandwidth.
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>>389345130
The little cloth looking bit around the waist makes this armour look super comfy to me.

>ywn chill in the rain wearing a full set of plate armour
>listening to all of the little tinks as the rain hits it
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>>389346485
Anon please read a book, or failing that some Wikipedia articles
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>>389346515
no fuck off
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>>389346608
>ywn have the disposable income to listen to your set of plate armor rust in the rain
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>>389346485
>back then large-scale combat was generally honourable

So is that why Basil II blinded 9/10 of his Bulgarian POWs and tore out one eye out of 1/10 of said POWs in order to inflict a massive blow on the rival Bulgarian Empire?
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>>389340834
hey its drakeblood armor
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>>389346569
>>389346639
>>389346742
You guys make it too easy. I was expecting one (you) at best.
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>>389343097
> Kratos on the far right
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>>389337476
this
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>knights
>not mages
Any medieval rpg that doesn't let you play a full spellcaster is axiomatically worthless.
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>>389341185
smiling mouse.jpg
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>>389337476
furry armor best armor
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>>389347002
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>>389341379
That Dane looks stylish as fuck
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>>389347284
cant go wrong with a gnome helm
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>>389341379
The guardsmen just look bored
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>>389342302
To be fair, you try fighting with a huge banner strapped to your back, no doubt it'd throw your center of gravity off and make you a priority target.
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>>389342935
O shit it's this guy.
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>>389346665
post more high res stuff. looks great for my wallpaper
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>>389337476
>>389340834
>>389341185
>>389342439
How can they see?
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I get the impression that visors were generally only worn when you were advancing towards the enemy to not get a face full of arrows. Apparently it's better to not have that faceguard and to be able to see more vs limited vision + hearing right?
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>>389344412
>The Freys are meant to be poor.
Wew.
I don't know if this is a joke. The Freys are supposed to be fucking rich. They became rich due to their fucking bridge.
They are not Lannisters, but they can be Top 10 wealthy families in Westeros with hot singles available.
That's what pisses them the most, they have money but no respect.
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>>389347543
Being highly visible was generally a good thing on a battlefield until quite recently.
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>>389347757
3rd eye
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>>389347763
Well, that's why they usually come with a hinge.
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>>389346012
Gee, thanks 40kfags
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>>389346012
>tfw i think this genuinely looks cool, but it looks way out of place in Warhammer fantasy
>all the other factions look baller as fuck in AoS, and it matches the setting
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>>389347709
I like reading looking at this guy's art while reading the annotations for his symbolisms
Like in pic related
>Albrecht's character is portrayed with many signs of his villainous intent. He kneels on both knees, which a duke should do only in front of a God, not a sovereign. This implies that he does not see Sigismund as a sovereign. He grips his standard strongly, but touches the Bible only lightly. The standard flies on a military lance, implying that Prussia had further military ambitions. Finally, there is a gauntlet on the ground, an implied challenge to Sigismund from Albrecht.
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>>389348173
>aos
>looks cool
wtf are you smoking m8?
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>>389348173
A lot of the new AoS miniatures are great, can't say I like the sigmarines though.
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If your armor isn't blue, no respect for you.
>wearing anything that isn't properly heat treated
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Enjoy spending 4 hours removing that shit, meanwhile I fight in my pyjamas. Comfy, flexible, stylish and effective.
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>>389344027
People actually think this?
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>>389337476
One of these days, I'll have my own full gothic armor set that I can larp around in all day.
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>>389341907
Erudite, magic black man.
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>>389343290
We're talking about our favorite historical armor on a video game dating simulator. They're big hairy nipples that hang low on a pair of sagging cow-tits forever sliding into the crevasse of the armpit due to lying on my back being the only position I can be in without suffocating
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Doesn't matter as long as my aesthetic is baroque. That's number one on the battlefield.
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>>389342220
It's an MMO, it's supposed to lack focus.
>Party of four fighting the Gaitn
>Two dueling
>Bard watching the duel
>Nigga distracted by the woman casting
It's a perfectly emblematic of what Everquest strove to be. The rolling landscape, the action, the socialising, etc.
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>>389341167
style>realism results in fucking final fantasy dreck.
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>>389337476

Is there anything as aesthetic as mountain scale armor
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>>389343097
>the awful painting is retro so it's not awful!
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>>389337476
I like both these things!
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>>389348992
And this thing too!
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>>389348173
>Steampunk Dwarves
>Orks sans character
Sure thing, kiddo. Real BAD ASS.
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>>389341167
It is easier to make something practical stylish then it is to make something stylish practical.
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Which Mount & blade should I play?

OG one
Warband
Or Fire & sword?
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Samites are pretty fly. I call it minimal wear armor.
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>>389349381
Bannerlord, assuming you're patient
Warband assuming you're not
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>>389349423
>Bannerlord, assuming you're patient

You mean if you're a skeleton?
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>>389349381
Warband obv
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>>389349474
We're all skeletons on the inside, anon.
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>>389341167
Agreed, all that realism shit is the CoD of armor, its the same bullshit parroted from youtube channels.
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>>389349503
fuck off with your bony propaganda

skeletons are abominations that should be purged
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>>389341379
Byzantine armour is so aesthetic
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>>389341167
That is neither.
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>>389349423
>>389349483
Warband it is!
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>>389348254
added to my collection, thanks
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>>389341794
>>389344106
Didnt the poles just make up their random ass armor for their nobles, higher class, etc because they didnt want to identify as the slavs/western?
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>>389349753
>That is neither.
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>>389340834
This is quite literally the only good armor in the entire thread. Everything else in here cosmetic reproduction trash that isn't even properly treated.
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>>389345542
>formal
It's archaic, not formal. Our modern "you" is derived of "thou" is derived of "þu" ("thu"). How the "you" version even came about is a funny story involving the lack of the thorn ("þ") in English, thus using a "y" for it, and shenanigans follow.

Anyways, þinn/thy, minn/mine, mik/me, etc. all share similar origins with thou/þu.
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>>389349381
Warband for vanilla and some other good mods.

Classic for some mods which just aren't available for Warband

Fire and Sword if you love the idea of getting one shot by a farmer as soon as a battle starts and losing your entire army.
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>>389338740
just off yourself already you useless weeb
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>>389349878
Install diplomacy as well,
it adds some quality of life features that are totally unintrusive and just make the game better
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>>389343110
That was the point, the Tyrells were all pomp and appearance.
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>>389341185
I love white Harbor Knights
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*fatrolls your path*
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>>389343167
I don't think it's meant to look like chainmail
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>>389345542
The image creator (accidentally or intentionally) used it right then
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>>389350401
>dickplomacy
fixed
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>>389341379
me on the right
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>>389350224
You're retarded
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>>389338740
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>>389343097
You just activated my trap card.
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>>389350158
>þinn/thy
I mean þinn/thine. "Thy" and "my" are both derivatives I can't remember the specific origin of.

The norse influence is still heavy in our pronounces though, all the way down to ek/I for nominal form yet mik/me for accusative. In the fact, the only parts that were lost over the years was that the accusative form of "you" became "you" (instead of a derivative of... þik?) and we lost the dual forms ("we"/"us"/"ours" but for only 2 people) of our pronouns, which was a cool concept while it lasted.
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Is there anything more aesthetic than a sallet?
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>>389342754
if this was posted unironically you are literally braindead
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>>389342145
Team Fortress 2, unironically
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>>389347757
hes just got a whole bunch of other dudes around him hopfully protecting him
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>>389343185
SPEAR AND MAGIC HELMET?!
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>>389350909
>Steal his look
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>>389340987
These fucking helmets though, what were they thinking?
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>>389351131
What the fuck happened with the person's eye?
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>>389341167
that'd be true but most consumers/designers have shit tastes in armour design.

The best results come from taking real armour designs into consideration and building on that, maybe stretching the rules a little, but making sure it still looks like it'd actually protect you.
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>>389351131
>JUST
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>>389351215
He's a literal zombie
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>>389344736
power amor will never exist.
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>>389350885
>those graphic settings

disgusting
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>>389342075
>muh cultural appropriation
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>>389341379
>play Byzantines in Total War:Medieval 2 because they look neat
>these guys are pretty good, noone seems to really bother me this late into the game, I wonder why noone ever seems to play the-
>"the pope has called a crusade on Constantinople"
>"a jihad has been called on Constantinople"
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>>389350224
>weeb

I'm chinese, guai lo. More like "Ceeb".
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>>389347586
Vizima was easily the best part of the game.
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>>389346324
But that's not what Monty Python told me!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2c-X8HiBng
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>>389350224
>Japanese
>metal armor
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>>389350843
Btw it's not japanese armor you faggot. Asia is a big place, try to leave your basement once in a lifetime.
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>>389351420
what mod
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>>389345130
because finding full suits of armour is actually extremely rare. Most armours you see are compiled out of different, matching pieces.
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>>389351465
What is this, a fucking circus?
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>>389351554
you haven't left the house in a week though
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>>389351131
It's like they ripped ultraman's helmet and JUST'd.
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>>389351568
Looks like 1250AD
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>>389337476
"Boy i sure love Milanese stuffs up my ass"

t. The Pope

*excommunicate you for defending your land*
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>>389351131
it's so fucking stupid, their neck and face are almost completely exposed
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>>389351634
>you haven't left the house in a week though
Nah, i just came back helping my mum in law do some Chinese cultural praying shit you won't understand.
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>>389351568
my own 1257ad mod
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>>389337476
Gothic in the streets, Milanese in the sheets
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>>389337476
how they even stood in a fight on summer days??
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>>389344265
yeah brah, gonna walk down the trail of beers
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>>389351694
no worries. I am the ultimate bad guy after all.
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>>389351620
>not embracing the fashion
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>>389351620
fucking pleb
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>>389350925
>>389350978
unironicmind
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>>389341379
I fucking love these chain veil things
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>>389351762
cool, do you post in /mbg/?

I will be so mad if mods kill this thread, it's great
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>>389351930
>Milan fucking shit got what they deserved

Nice... very nice
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>>389352383
you'd love Mameluks then
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>>389342905
Don't forget the two manlets waiting for Chad paladin to give them a leadership bonus so that they have courage enough to fight
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>>389352383
Ventail.
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>>389350038
WE WUZ SARMATIANS AND SZIET
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>>389339607
*blocks your path*
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>>389352393
yeah, used to be periodically, but from now on I just read stuff from time to time.
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>>389347709
1410 never forget
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>>389349632
>>389341379
why are there no byzantine inspired RPGs?
I hope bannerlord fixes this, considering the empire is based on Byzantium.
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>>389337476
now I understand what they were going for with the Royal Swordsmans in Dark Souls 2. I always thought their armor looked weird and makes it easy to underestimate them, but they can absolutely wreck your shit if you're prepared.
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>>389351279
Wrong
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posting some hi res stuffs
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>>389351554
China had some nice armour over the years, but media just gives us dynasty warriors tier designs
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>>389353128
I'd really love having an ancient greek inspired Rpg, but we never get nice things
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>>389353506
How is it that Dark Souls II was your first exposure to gothic plate? Did you just never play video games before 2010?
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>>389341839
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>>389351832
Plate armor actually keeps you cool, it's mail that's annoying to wear in the heat
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>>389353128
No one really knows much about it, so basing an entire game around it is a pretty poor plan.

Influence is often drawn from the ERE tho.
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>>389353567
Caption: "The Birth of the Finnish Race"
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>>389354707
>plate armour keeps you cool compared to chain

Not if you have a white surcoat, and this is only true if you're stationary. If you start moving in plate you start the clock on how long you have till you need to get out. Big sheets of metal with padding underneath don't tend to breathe very well. Modern testing puts it at about 15 minutes of combat before heat exhaustion becomes a risk in plate armour.
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>>389338740
T I M E T O G E T S E R I O U S
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>>389346050
GREEN
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>>389348469
Out of everything in this thread this has to be my favorite.
>>
In terms of shields I like those little square buckler things Picts used
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>>389350224
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>>389354942
MEN
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>>389351892
Sup Mellow Mike, why are you being such a narc right now?
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>>389342754
>YEAH PUT YOUR HANDS UP IN THE AIR!
>*squish*
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>>389344554
Somehow I doubt it, it feels like the sound of a massed cavalry charge along with people shouting would drown out whatever noise the wings would supposedly make.
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Been working with chainmail forever, it's surprisingly heavy and shitty.
If you add enough belts it get alright to wear, moving weight away from the shoulders.
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>>389342913
Don't worry - weebs will tell you the wapanese invented that
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>>389350167
>>389350401
Thanks
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>>389342816
You would think that. But since its easier to make, instead of a good smith and a apprentice making armors, you have a mediocre smith apprentices, and a few hirelings to do that.
So per realistic population numbers, you suddenly have a few more lamaller cuirasses per hamlet, which matter a lot if you are into some sort of mass style army mobilization, and thats still important in feudalism.
And you will still have somebody producing the higher end parts, because of the freed up space.

Its a lot like how Chain Maile was produced far past when plate started getting cheap, because it was a cheaper product.
I don't want to know how far into the ages, you had people walking around in gigantic gamberson jackets, because they are the cheapest form of armor, which would be far into the 1800s. I don't fucking even

>>389345130
1. Preservation is a bitch
2. Nobody considered to preserve their armor in the day
3. If you aren't rich, you would buy armor in pieces. So something expensive for shoulder and ribcage, and every other piece is cheaper. So cheaper legs might have been common, be that material or completely different armor.
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>>389339605
there isnt a difference actually. plate mail doesnt mean plate + mail, its a somewhat incorrect lay term for plate harnesses (or just plate armor if you prefer). mail has always historically referred to chainmail.
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>>389351930
What are the Byzantines doing fucking around in Hungary?

Every campaign I've ever played, they've literally never expanded anywhere.
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>>389351279
It about to exist my boy. Exoskeleton is in work and it's the main component of power armor.
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>>389350158
All still used in nordic languages. Din/yours, min/mine, mig/me etc.
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>>389351723
the mountain is so fucking strong that it doesnt matter.
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>>389338740
That's a really funkin cool sword
what's the name of it?
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>>389354771
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>>389356367
it still amuses me that the average person thinks that mail is super maneuverable or even just moreso than plate. do you use butted links or go full autism with welds?
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>>389351654
it's pretty clear that just stuck some shit on a darth vader helmet
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>>389356795
It looks like a Jian which looks kinda similar to the Roman spatha
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>>389350224
>Jian
>Japanese

Are you okay, anon? Do you have brain problems?
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>>389341839
damn that looks good
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>>389342439
That too, is my fetish.
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>>389356908
Butted, still moving stuff around.
It's getting pretty good to move around in, but only because it is tailored for me, so it fits pretty snugly.
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>>389337476
the sallet helm is just too sexy
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>>389343596
plate armor's weight are very well distributed over the body, so you can move around in it easily.

You can even perform a cartwheel in them.
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>>389357235
>white men really are that small

Lmao there's like 4 inches in there, tops. No wonder the cuck meme is so popular.
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>>389356628
Their lifespan in the game is entirely dependent on if they take Constantinople early before anyone else, since they dont start with it and its a neutral city with a massive army in it and the best walls in the game till end game, its kindof hard for the Byzantines to take it since without the city they only have weak as shit units. Alot of the time Hungary or Seljuk swoop in too fast for them too and have stronger units to attempt it. Byzantine is completely useless without Constantinople, but if they get it they get some of the strongest units available very early and can shit on other factions.
>mfw the first time I saw greek fire being used on me
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>>389343596
Yeah I remember all those epic peasant riots that ended with a successful revolt against the upper class. Those peasants were way better fighters than those knights and their literal tank armor.
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>>389357368
well, historically mail was pretty form fitting, wasnt it? i always roll my eyes when i see people wearing fucking maile sheets in media.
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>>389357745
Not really, it's kept in place by belts but the main reason chain works well is because it moves and deflects/rolls blows away, especially when coupled with your own movements. You want it to have some space to move.
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>>389343185
>you'll never be a myceanean warrior and fight for your people in battles straight out of mad max

Bronze age was some hardcore shit man
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>>389342439
>>389357235
if you cover your junk, how will you have a combat jack?
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>>389343185
>>389358040
>See this plus artistic renditions
>Find out that they're accurately portraying a historical suit of armour

I can't imagine a unit wearing that to be flexible in their tactics beyond fighting in a phalanx.
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>>389358036
huh, didnt know that. doesnt that make it much more cumbersome, though?
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What ever this is.
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>>389358547
formation fighting wasnt very big in the bronze age.
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>>389358547
It wouldn't be for a unit, that would have been made for a wealthy high ranker, possibly cruising around in a chariot.
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>>389358559
That's what wearing a belt is for. It moves the weight and makes it much easier to move in. You just gotta get used to it.
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>>389358821
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>>389358701
I'd argue otherwise atleast for disciplined infantry who would fight in a shield wall for mutual protection and not just conscripts that would break at the first sight of the enemy. Historical depictions show that the Sumerian infantry fought in a shield wall style formation and logically it would just make sense to protect yourself with a shield infront of you and the other guy.

>>389358724
I'd like to see some sources but that does make logical sense given the fucking size of the bronze slabs in that armour.
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>>389359081
Forgot my pic
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>>389358916
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>>389359081
that seems more like an artists depiction of something he doesnt know how to accurate portray (or doesnt actually know what hes carving looks like, as happened sometimes), rather than actual military tactics being displayed. im not calling you incorrect but surely you must know how unreliable things like artwork are for depicting historical accuracy.
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>males can wear skirts you know
>am a male fighter
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>>389358821
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>>389341872
Would make a badass mecha design.
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>>389360089
Whats that? Also, if you intend to shitpost, don't make shitposts for ants.
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>>389360089
Nobody actually likes gundam, sorry lad.
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>>389340987
Absolutely disgusting
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>>389359467
Artistic depictions aren't the end all be all that's true but to me, shield walls are just a logical thing for people to organize themselves into (given that our species roughly evolved 250,000 years ago and remained relatively samey since) since it protects you and your friends from missiles whilst advancing and fighting in formation against another group of people.

As for the artistic depiction itself, it's not depicting anything outrageous e.g. a god flying around or an illogical design like pic related but rather something pretty grounded. So whilst I do agree that we shouldn't base historical inference from just artistic sources, it would be pretty unfair to dismiss a fairly grounded and logical representation of soldiers because of other less grounded art works.
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>>389341113
Actually it's from Game of Thrones.
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>>389351131
>We want the pokemon audience
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What is your opinion on silly head ornaments
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>>389361075
Historically accurate but crappy in combat since it presents another grappling point/area to hit and concuss you.

Mainly done for the vanity thing and dick waving contest in my opinion.
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>>389361075
looks stupid and like the other person said it just give your enemy something to grab onto and fuck you up with. example: stun you and then grab on your retarded head ornament and impale your head on a spear/spike.
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>>389361075
Absolutely love them
Lot of people say they weren't used in combat, but I like to believe they were used because it looks cool.
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>>389361302
>>389361157
>grabbing a horn
Seems like a bad idea to raise your arm and leave your armpit exposed.
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>>389348168
At least we have vidya
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>>389361075
Sometimes it really doesn't make sense, but usually I don't mind
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>>389361075
Depends, I'm not against some plumes at the back of my helm. Not too hot about wearing horns or any other bulky thing.
Then again its only if I would be lucky as to wear anything other than pic related (pikeman munition armor 16th century) or indeed anything at all.
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>>389361075
I've heard before that they were used on tournament helmets where the goal was to knock the other guy's ornament off. Not sure if that's true, though.
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>>389356817
"Back in Finland you feel bad, real bad."
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>>389361518
You might be a part of the PFI at best
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Gothic vs Nibenese would have been more appropriate
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>>389360805
i dont really think you understand the difficulties involved in coordinating large groups of fighting men. battles in real life werent big blocks of guys smashing into each other like your total war games.

as for the art: it has 6 rows of arms going through each shield holding a spear, you really think that is supposed to represent the actual tactics used, and not something more logical, like a stone carver from 1000 bc just putting a big mass of men with shields and spears to represent a fighting army? am i also supposed to believe that the sallet was invented 2000 years early because their helmets look like sallets? cmon dude.
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>>389361627
Knowing the history of my family I would at least get a helmet.
itssomething.tapestry
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>>389361774
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>>389351614
>Most armours you see are compiled out of different, matching pieces.
Only in countries outside of the EU. We generally take good care of this stuff.
Can't remember the name of that curator in the US responsible for Frankenstein armors
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Armor threads are the best.
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Have this picture I took in a museum in Vienna.
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>>389361685
To answer your first question, maybe that's why Sumer was such a successful civilization that lasted over 2000 years. Being able to drill and organize infantry in disciplined formations would be a huge boon compared to undisciplined armies.

As for questioning the art I don't understand why a shield wall is such an illogical formation for a human to do, self-preservation is a very widespread human trait and it wouldn't be a stretch to believe that humans of the same species would feel the same emotions of friendship, camaraderie etc. and would want to protect members of their own group. As for the sallet, I never made that claim but that shape was used for helmets in Sumer.
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>>389362459
And this one.
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>>389362856
do you have any evidence for this drilling and organized fighting outside of extrapolation from artwork though? like, some sort of documentation. the sumerians had written script (something far more valuable for a bronze civilization than formation fighting, as an aside) we know how the greeks and romans fought because they described it at length. even with the romans, mind you, artistic depictions of warfare are taken with a boulder of salt. it simply isnt enough to say "well this mass of men in a primitive (relatively speaking) carving looks like it could be a shield wall and sumer was around for a long time so it has to be." i really feel like you are talking about this subject with only a cursory knowledge thereof.

i do not think that the sumerians had sallets, i was offering you an argument by analogy. do you find yourself misunderstanding people often?
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>>389362406
Byzantine were /fa/ as fuck, a shame their armours arent really in more games.
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Who /PIKES/ here?
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>>389362459
>>389362878
What museum was this ? I only had time to visit the arms and armors collections of the Kunsthistoriches museum in the Neueburg and wanted to visit the Karlsplatz museum.
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>>389339607
Onion knight?
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The leg armor from the left but everything else on the right
that helmet is fucking sexy
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>>389363738
Fun fact the Swiss won that battle while being outnumbered and attacking a force of trained and armoured Austrians that held a defensive position on a hill.
If the Swiss won Sempach, you can do anything with your life.
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>>389363790
I honestly don't even remember.
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>>389363920
Yes ?
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>>389337476
Name 3 ludos, 5 videos and 3 mobile apps that do this.
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>>389350869
Wow where'd you find this screenshot of Diablo 3?
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very comfy
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>>389363738
I don't really know what that guy with the axe near the bottom right's plan here is, he looks pretty fucked.
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>>389351508
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>>389344412
The Freys are fucking rich as fuck dude
not Lannister tier, but still way above cunts like Starks
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>>389364349
hes about to chuck it because what the fuck else can he do. might as well bring some company with you to hell
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>>389364509
Starks are major house that was kingdom nefore invasion, Freys are minor servants.
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>men of high nobility and savagery strode and rode into war once upon a time in ornamental plate combat suits to do battle with similarly glitzed-up motherfuckers for concepts such as god, king and country using blades, bludgeons, and primitive projectiles

man for a fucking species that doesn't look like it's going to ever be a space-faring race any longer we've always done conflict in astoundingly cool fashions. knights armor is absolutely beautiful.
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>>389364434
>The Red Hand of Ulster stops the catholics from catho-licking the local protestants.
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>>389364663
>Children when they will learn.
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>>389351508
http://www.sengokudaimyo.com/katchu/katchu.html
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>>389363676
Because the stele was used to document a war between city states and that the artist to the best of their ability tried to depict the military which shows soldiers shoulder to shoulder marching or standing in a formation. It was not used for commercial purposes like say a Greek vase would have been made for.

> it simply isnt enough to say "well this mass of men in a primitive (relatively speaking) carving looks like it could be a shield wall and sumer was around for a long time so it has to be."
Aside from historians taking this as a legitimate depiction of Sumerian soldiers, attacking artistic depictions simply because they're pictorial depictions rather than written is poor historical form as many things could be extrapolated from visual depictions (e.g. Alexamenos graffito shows that Romans believed that Jesus was a person, that Christians worshiped Jesus, that the Romans hated Christians and had disdain for them, people were crucified on a cross etc.)

As for primitive, these are people who organized themselves into constructing massive works like the Ziggurats which Herodotus described. Is it really that hard to imagine those people who could organize themselves into completing such large projects to understand self-preservation in terms of protecting themselves by holding a shield in front of them and protecting those at their sides so as to not be outnumbered by the enemy.

And also absence of evidence is not evidence of absence in history, especially since we have very little surviving artifacts from the Sumerian civilization compared to Greeco-Roman civilizations.
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>>389364663
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>>389364742
yeah but the Freys are richer
They control the only way across the green fork
and they charge premium
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>>389364742
the titles and nobility of houses have nothing to do with their wealth
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>>389343097
i hate how the higher level armors in diablo 2 make paladins stop looking like crusaders
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*blocks your path*
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>>389342220
This is the box art from the original game, it was designed to wrap all the way around the box.
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>>389364907
They do not stockpile their wealth. They spend it immediately on lavish parties constantly, which Walder uses as an attempt to brow beat equal and lesser lords into marrying his daughters. This is explicitly stated in one of the books. Stop being retarded.
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>>389347757
if you can see using armor it isnt a good armor
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>>389365208
And they can afford it
Oh look a warparty wants to cross the river
I wonder which side will be prepared to pay more if we let them cross or not
they've got a GOAT strategic position
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>>389341379
In order to draw from history, you have to know history.
Modern game devs don't know history.
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>>389365037
*snorts*
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>>389341484
>late roman armor
>even remotely standaradized
"no"
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>>389364842
do historians think that sumerian soldiers also fought in highly drilled formations too? youre constantly extrapolating off of nothing. evidence is everything. art is absolutely to be scrutinized when youre going to act like huge unfounded speculations are fact solely because of a carving. historians are very careful to make judgements based off of artwork, especially that created by the ancients. i describe the artwork as primitive because that is what it is relative to later artwork. the ability of the artist to accurately portray what he is trying to show is limited by this. or do you think everyone in egypt could only be viewed from profile? we know how the romans fought from more than just their own writing, mind you. you would think that other cultures would have some proof of this formation fighting youre so doggedly defending for whatever reason because of a fucking carving.
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>>389342302
A foot soldier with a 10 foot tall banner strapped to his back would be absolutely useless in battle. Might as well just have him carry the banner so he has more control over it.
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What is the name of this coat the samurai is using?
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>>389365037
those swords look dull as hell, if you're going to use weapons that aren't sharp, use warhammers.
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>>389365037
also
>leather armor pieces with cloth underneath
>expecting anyone to be intimidated
its like their grandma made them that armor
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>>389365676
haori, theyre not just used for armor.
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>>389365760
what should be under the armor? a bikini?
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>>389365887
>what is chainmail
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>>389365776
Thanks
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>>389365924
wtf is this? dude looks like he's an elite knight. i'm just going to pretend that his armor is impenetrable and he came out of that fine.
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>>389341839
Oh hey I remember a lot of this shit
>High Elf Princess Firiona Vie
>Erudite scholar wizard dude
>Half Elf Bard
>Dragon Lord Nagafen
>Some Human Paladin that never took off his helmet
>Dwarf
>Halfling
>Troll
>Dark Elf Princess Lanys T'Vyl
>Ogre
>Barbarian
>Wood Elf

All the box art characters had names and backstories and would appear during important GM events early in the life of the game. I think they were based on the original D&D campaign that became the setting for EverQuest.
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>>389350432
it looks so good here but whenever i wear it i always feel like a chubby manlet
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>>389366042
bully all the horse nerds
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>>389366068
i'm not commenting on what you're posting but I just remember I had this photo which definitely belongs in this thread. I cracked up when I found it.
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>>389363950
fucking roaches get out of my city REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>389365942
hmm yeah lemme put this chainmail on my bare skin under my already inflexible lamellar cuirass. besides, if they had mail do you think theyd be wearing leather armor?
>what is a fucking brain
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>>389366386
no, they wouldn't they'd be using metal armor like a smart person.
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>>389364304
>I'M FUCKING INVINCIBLE!
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>>389365208
>the book
>/tv/
pick one
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>>389366181
digging the faggot knight getting a facefull of lowborn lead on the right.

>>389366430
>no they wouldnt have mail they would have metal armor
are you retarded?
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>>389365568
>do historians think that sumerian soldiers also fought in highly drilled formations too
Yup, they specifically use the word phalanx

https://calhoun.nps.edu/bitstream/handle/10945/5616/11Jun_Taylor.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y

http://ncurproceedings.org/ojs/index.php/NCUR2016/article/view/1845

http://www.jstor.org/stable/605826

http://ericlevy.com/Revel/Kings/Mario%20Liverani%20-%20Deeds%20of%20Ancient%20Mesopotamian%20Kings.PDF

>you would think that other cultures would have some proof of this formation fighting youre so doggedly defending for whatever reason because of a fucking carving.
Because it's part of a document of war, not a commercial piece of art but a document that was made to describe the events that has occurred. Whilst you attack my historical method, you yourself have committed cardinal sins by completely disregarding visual sources in your historical method one stance that professional historians and academia would not vouch for.

And once again is it that hard to believe that a group of people (who are in an organized culture that could build great works) figured out "hey what if we put our shields together so that we won't be murdered by arrows?" They've gotten down metal working and stone carving, surely "put shield infront" is not such a massive leap in logic.
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>>389366371
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>>389364304
>wielding a spear
>but no shield
wielding a spear AND shield was probably pretty op in real medieval warfare if they knew how to use them well.
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>>389366658
Also have the rest of this

https://scholar.google.com.au/scholar?start=20&q=%22sumerian%22+%22phalanx%22&hl=en&as_sdt=0,5

I can't be bothered listing every single item so have a look at your leisure.
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>>389341738
silly anon
you cant have reaction images on plebbit
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>>389364304
Why does that bow look like a triangle? Shouldn't it curve more?
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>>389366559
>siding with lowborns attacking high ranking knights
Heretic! Off to the stake with you.
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>>389366916
*shifts your paradigm*
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>>389367030
goddamn, someone nerf spears.
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>>389367030
also fucking dex scrubs, dont think i think notice those rapiers and shit.
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>>389362406
We need to have these more often
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>>389367030
Ah yes, Austrian Tercios were goat.
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>>389342439
This armor is cute.
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>>389367204
They only get really op when you mix in guns, the pikes hold the enemy at length and the guns smash them point blank.
>>389367285
Many pike formations especially around germany mixed in men with greatswords (the famous zwiehanders) and pole axes.
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>>389366658
your sources are hilariously laughable. "some historians think that they used phalanxes, because of this carving" (literally the one you keep going on about as irrefutable evidence). strange how historians are divded on the historical merit of way bigger works like trajans column but this carving of a group of men with shields and spears (literally just depicting 'a battle' to the best of the artists ability) is irrefutable proof that the sumerians used a phalanx. literally everything your sources claim is precipitated upon that single stele. can you kindly fuck yourself for wasting my time.
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>>389337476
> implying this is an actual decision
If you ain't Milanese, you ain't shit.
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>>389361475
>>389361075
Was Robbert really that much of a badass?
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>>389367876
No, he was an angry fat cuck.
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>>389367030
might wanna use a picture that isnt called "the last tercio" to extol its virtues.
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>>389367976
Not when he was King but when he did combat.
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>>389344230
Ottoman influencing, then.
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>>389367876
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>>389368054
its slavic
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>>389368097
>Robbert's face when the Dothraki whore truly was the end.
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>>389367781
>literally everything your sources claim is precipitated upon that single stele
Yeah welcome to the fact that there are not a lot of surviving Sumerian artifacts and records and that historians working with the period have to make do. By all means, please supply secondary sources (or primary sources for that matter) that attacks the historical value of the stele.

>strange how historians are divded on the historical merit of way bigger works like trajans column but this carving of a group of men with shields and spears
Because the Romans and Greeks had more surviving sources, not surprising that we could tell a lot more about a civilization that has far more surviving documents and artifacts.

>irrefutable proof that the sumerians used a phalanx
I've never stated that it is, only that it provides strong evidence since it is part of a historical document and supplements the logical assumption that an advanced group of people (Sumer is referred to as the cradle of civilization) that had the logistics and organization to build massive monuments, knew about metal working, knew about agriculture could atleast reach the conclusion that putting shields up in a group of soldiers is a good thing for self-preservation.

>kindly fuck yourself for wasting my time.
Nice ad hominem
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>>389367876
Robert in his younger years was one of the greatest warriors of the realm, he beat Rhaegar (the Targaryen family's finest warrior) to a pulp during his rebellion to become King.

He was considered an awesome warrior but a really shitty King, he let go of himself and grew fat over the years and only had his authoritative tone left, nothing else.
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>>389367876
Gods, he was strong then.
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THE WHOOORE IS PREGNANT
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>>389368036
he was one of the strongest warriors around

he smashed the shit out of rhaegar targaryen chestplate

he literally lived to crush skulls and fuck whores

becoming king destroyed his life
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>>389343769

Obvious Frank Frazetta influence down to the oil painting like texture. Except the everquest concept artist uses brighter palettes in general and really doesn't have the same sense of composition as Frank who mastered it flawlessly, but if I look at Everquest art in general, especially the ones with that blonde mage, it seems to try to intentionally convey that the blonde mage is looking at the customer directly. It's mere fanservice. The focus doesn't seem to be on the battle, but on the female characters instead. and the composition isn't meant to actually showcase a battle, but merely put a scene where you can display these fine female curvatures by drawing them in dynamic poses. Despite the size of the creatures on this drawing, you don't have the feeling that there's any focus put on them. the only ones actually fighting shit are characters put the furthest away in the background so that they can easily be ignored. it took me a little while to actually notice the male archer to the far right. Everything is static and you get the feeling that they are just action figures posing for a photo. Compare this to Frazetta's composition and his grasp of movement. Despite the obvious fanservice damsel to the left corner, you don't get the feeling that she's just there for the eye candy, she is part of the whole composition and you feel that she is part of the ongoing conflict. You get a clear idea that something is actually going on, as if this was a freeze frame taken right in the middle of an attack.

Overall, Everquest art is just nerd bait in general, pretty ladies in fantasy costumes beckoning you to "come play, my lord!" while the obvious inspiration, Frazetta's style, is actually a display of practiced technique and knowledge of proportions, movement and composition. To be able to paint like this with oil takes a lifetime of practice.
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>>389368737
Rhaegar was so bitchmade to be taking a sword up against 6'4 fuck huge Robert one-handing a massive warhammer in full plate
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>>389357101
Dao and Jian are the sexiest swords to come out of the east. Urumi, runner up.
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>>389368036
He wasn't fat but he was still an angry cuck
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>>389368789
>becoming king destroyed his life
rip

What about Eddard?
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>>389358821
They killed it, the maniacs! They blew it all up!
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Obviously the greek hoplite armor is the best of all. So stylish.
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>>389338740
(muffled screaming)
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>>389366818
if you ran out of arrows you use as a boomerang
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>>389343097

>hurrrdurrr he's THE best artist of the Gaming of the vidya Kingdom, you knaves cannot criticize his perfect work!

Frazetta did it better. Nothing is impervious to criticism. Great technique, bad composition. TherE's nothing bad with it, he just needs to get a better grasp on what he wants the viewer to have focus on.

That being said, this D2 art is, by far, one of his best. Compared to most of his work, you get a good idea of what the fuck is going on in this one and the stakes at play.
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>>389369259
They knew to dress fashionably even when going to war.
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>>389367408
It's Spanish you nerd.
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>>389347284
digging that jimmy neutron helmet
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Neither of those armors are suited for slaying goblins OP
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>>389366071
thats because DaS2's character models are kind of shit
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>>389369136
eddard was his best friend, they grew up together, both fostered by lord arryn

he has always been a melancholic, self righteous fuck

not really the most interesting character in asoiaf
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>>389369907
feels the same way in das3 tbf, das2 had better fashion overall (see >>389367395)
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>>389367286
>tfw flat topped greathelms are fashionable and imposing as fuck
>but actually really poor defense because a single hammer blow will squash your head like a soda can

It's true what they say. You have to suffer for fashion.
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>>389369989
In terms of powerlevel, who is the strongest warrior in Westoros/Essos/the world of a song of ice and fire.
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>>389343219
>>389343356
I have an obsession with cloaks over chainmail and plates
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>>389363790
We also have a museum called the "Heeresgeschichtliches Museum" in Vienna. It should have harnesses from around that time, I think its mostly line infantry coats and weapons going up to WW2 tanks and such though.
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>>389370058
there's no doubt that DaS2 has the best fashion options of the 3 games, but it's true it has shit models. Although I'd argue 3's are worse. they used bloodborne's models, which results in AYYLMAO necks all over the place
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