What did he mean by this?

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Pete Hines is a walking PR disaster. When will this clown and get fired and replaced by /ourguy/?

>>389327570
Who cares stop giving these devs attention you retards

It's amazing that Pete Hines is still employed and has seen no real public backlash

Well, he's not wrong

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>>389329273
t.
pete

>>389328993
I don't think a manlet could ever be /ourguy/.

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>>389329393
6 whole feet and 2 inches, baby!

>>389329204
And that helps what?

>>389327570
Some weird bullshit about the idea of Hellfire Armor being trademarked, when it really isn't.

Pete really does cause more problems then he solves. Why is he still employed and how hasn't the rest of internet realized he's an absolute moron?

>>389329574
Bethesda was originally made up of familiars and friends and has expanded their circle ever since. I assume nepotism will keep him there as long as he wants to stay.

I don't understand anything happening in this thread

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>>389328993
When people stop buying their games.
>>389329232
The Todd memes have done a good job of deflecting the ire the real bad guys—he and pic related—would otherwise naturally get.

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>>389327624
what a sack of shit

>>389329574
Because nobody wants his job of dealing with Fallout autism 24/7

>>389329731
He's right.

>>389329693
this. someone explain what's going on?

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>>389329708
How the fuck did the internet not lose its shit over this? Dude pretty much just said women are idiots.
I'm guessing the only solution then is simple.
We make them into memes. I hate the idea of forcing a meme but god damn, it does work and bring attention to these fucks.

>>389329574
According to Chris Avellone he's an amazing guy to work with, so here's that.

>>389329797
He dismisses so many things fans throw at him. Whether or not he wants to deal with it, being a PR man, it's his fucking job.

>>389329863
And he's doing a pretty good job considering the asinine shit people whine to him about.

>>389329849
>How the fuck did the internet not lose its shit over this? Dude pretty much just said women are idiots.


Because they are? Nothing new

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>>389329861
Whats that phrase? If you want to see how someone truly is, see how they act towards someone beneath them?
Chris is actually respected and loved. Pete is a parasite clinging on for dear life. Don't doubt that, if you're not on first name basis, dude treats you like scum.

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>>389329849
dude what a BASED idea! Let's make them a MEME!!

>>389329953
Emil, please.

>>389329849
This is the same company that talked about Girlfriend Mode to game journalist and got their cabal to cackle up a shitstorm.

>>389329963
>Chris is actually respected and loved.
Chris was a writer from a lesser company employed to work on Bethesda's property. He was absolutely not above Hines in that professional relationship.

You know, I don't agree with the guy at all, but I am impressed by how many replies he gives to random nobodies. Who else with as much dev celeb status as him spends this much time on twitter replying to randoms?

>>389329950
What's asinine about asking him about his shit game's monstrous plot holes and absolutely ass backwards mechanical choices? He basically tells people to fuck off without saying it so crudely or he plays mental gymnastics with the definitions of things.

The man has the tact of a fish and he's public relations.

>>389330024
Wasn't that gearbox?

>>389329986
i'll make you a meme dude, so walk away unless you want whatever bad thing you call a life to be forever besmirched

>>389330058
He's the PR guy. It's part of his job. Obviously not every single random but still, there's been an obvious backlash and he's trying to control it.
By being dismissive. Like always.

>>389330058
Well for starters, he's not a dev.

But to answer you, I know both Sawyer and Avellone do that.

>>389330146
What should he say? "Lol our game sucks, Emil just keeps huffing glue and writing shit?" That would be honest, but not exactly good PR.

>>389329849
You can't announce that you're forcing a meme you idiot

>>389330206
>What should he say?
"I'm not the writer, just PR. Here's a link to contact Emil, our writer."

>>389329731
I'm curious to see what's wrong with what he said

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>>389330174
too late, I memed you first ;)

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>>389329316

>>389330207
Considering the past 5 years, that wouldn't be an issue.
Also it was a joke. Although there is some merit to the idea of weaponized memes.
I fucking hate this timeline.

>>389330239
Sssso you're saying he should forward one of his duties to Emil? Nice.

>>389329849
you have autism

>>389330157
For some reason, I had it in my head Bethesda made Borderlands, guess I got brain worms.

>>389330257
Just because Bethesda made the Hellfire armor design doesn't mean they own the concept of it, that's like Disney saying they own all cartoon mice.

>>389329849
girls are too stupid to know they are being insulted, duh

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>>389330307
You wouldn't disagree with a face this handsome now, would you, anon?

Who plays Bethesda games anyway. Why do you care?

>>389330391
>I had it in my head Bethesda made Borderlands
They only made the shitty knock-off called Fallout 4.

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>>389330485
Would you?

>>389328993
Pete has been slowly eating the company from the inside ever since Oblivion. Fuck that guy.

>>389330413
Yea, I'm sure if you went and drew your own Mickey Mouse cartoon about him going to Mars you'll win that court battle by claiming "I drew him going to Mars first, so neener"

>>389330602
It's more like Disney telling you Mickey Mouse became a free use character and then at the last second telling everyone that they need to pay to see all the content that the people made while he was a free used character.

>>389330413
>Just because Bethesda made the Hellfire armor design doesn't mean they own the concept of it
it literally does mean that though

>Disney saying they own all cartoon mice
They do if it's called Mickey and has two round ears, so

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People forget that most of the mods made into 4 that were from old fallouts were probably using old assets from fallout 3 or vegas........the backpack is not original though but nobody is going to say shit about it since it can belong to any game ever.

If anything this will make modders do more work on their mods to beat the shill versions.

It's like having to pay to use Humpty Dumpty after you were told you wouldn't have to pay to use him

i'm sorry but can someone explain to me whats going on, the twitter screencaps tell me little

If there's one thing I like about Bethesda, it's that they haven't fallen for the political correctness trap, they never make forced gay characters on you or talk about how feminism is awesome and badass, they just make games they know will make a profit, and they know that that stuff doesn't profit, too bad their games stuff though

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>>389329849
It just outs him as the idiot since the "simplifications" involved making the game more violent, macho and combat-exclusive, and thus making LESS appealing to women.

>>389330058
Both him and Randy are in the same boat. The question is, which one is more intelligent?

I hate Pete Hines. "Taking acid and fighting nazis bro pretty fucking crazy, right?" Eat shit, Pete.

>>389327570
>literallywho on social media talking about ?????????

don't you have some e-celeb dicks to go suck

>>389330807
>>389330602
Mickey Mouse copyright expires in less than ten years so we will see if Disney will lobby to get copyright law exteneded again

>>389331426
I'm excited as heck for new Wolfenstein.

>>389331092
a big guy from bethesda says that people who think the paid mods were stolen from their mods are in the wrong.

he thinks that since the idea was already in the old fallouts it's their property and if anyone just makes the armor available to the new fallout they can copy their work to use as paid mods since it's their idea in the 1st place.

>>389330510
>Who plays Bethesda games anyway.
The majority? You know the ones have the purchasing power to actually impact the industry?

>>389329849
Didn't Anita Sarkeesian suggest to DICE that they make Mirror's Edge appeal more to women by making it play itself? Feminists treating women like babies isn't really anything new.

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>>389327570
>Pete says Bethesda made hellfire armor in Fallout 3
>Modder screeches and his hellfire armor mod for Fallout 4 is a unique creation
>Pete says no not really
>Modder continues screeching even though Bethesda didn't have the mod pulled from the Nexus or anything and he's just saying that shit like "WITCHER ARMOR SKYRIM MOD" isn't an original creation
Pete did nothing wrong here. Creation Club is retarded but this is just trying to rile up the re-re's.

>>389331450
Of course they will.
THE LAWS WILL BEND TO THE MOUSE'S WILL
EVERYONE SHALL BOW BEFORE THE MIGHTY MOUSE

>>389328993
ever wonder why todd wasnt at E3 this year?

he was tied up in the bethesda basement, screaming as he watched pete hines on tv announce the creation club.

>>389331714
The only problems I have with creation club so far is that none of the stuff they have is new and original and that godawful credits shit, like seriously, I'm using real money to buy this shit, no need to hide that fact from me

>>389331789
>Peter, please! You know this is a bad idea!
>But Todd, you're so liked. What could possibly go wrong? What was it you said? It.Just.Works.

Pete Hiney just baffles me. If I was CEO of Bethesda, he'd be on my "not allowed to have a twitter account" list. But not only does he have a twitter account where he's allowed to talk about the company, he's the fucking PR manager. They could literally just fire him and put a bobblehead in his office chair, and they'd notice an improvement in PR.

>>389331351
I feel like Gearbox is almost universally criticized, but Bethesda could take a fat shit on someone's lap and say it's the new Fallout experience and there would still be a diehard group of drones defending it til the day they die, so Pete, Todd, Emil and friends must be doing something right.

>>389331830
>none of the stuff they have is new and original
Except for the original stuff like the "Horse Armor" and the backpacks.

But those are kinda shit, so your point still stands.

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>>389330308
>you will never get to lead a village of obedient lolis living in the wasteland of the post-ww3 october crisis timeline

>>389331830
It's all safe shit geared towards just to work.

I think i see the bigger picture though.

So there is rumors of fallout 4 on switch and i bet that paid mods will only be the only mods you can get.....kids, they're targeting kids....I mean back then I made bad choices on purchases but think out many small retards in 2017 will just buy mods because they can.

nintendo will never go for free mods.

>>389327570
If it's their thing then why wasn't it in the game in the first place

>>389331618
So is the content someone elses work?

>>389331916
I could see that. Every question just answered with a short video of the bobblehead going yes or no. But Bethesda is apparently stupidly protecting itself. Even when one of their own is obviously way over his head, they keep treating them like royalty. Emil and Pete should've left 10 years ago.

>>389332082
They created a cult. Can't really defend that.
Gearbox is easy to hate cause, well, they're fucking morons and Randy is a piece of shit, but Todd, despite his faults, can be enjoyable. Just does what he loves, keeps to himself, lies. Normal dev stuff.
Emil and company though, they're just coasting on Todd's status. People keep trying to elevate him to the same level as Gaben. Look how well that turned out.

>>389329647
This. Where's the image that shows Todd hired a friend who failed his modeling final exam FOUR times, and still ended up as the lead modeler for F3?

>>389332156
Most industries are aimed at kids/young teens, since they're the ones who'll bother their parents for money without thinking of the consequences. Young adults/adults still have some consideration for money and how to save it.
So yeah, makes sense.

>>389331714
Look at the context. Bethesda wants us to think that CC content isn't paid mods. Then they go ahead and put up the exact same kind of content you can already find in mods. Then Pete Hines says "well uhh it's still technically original because we own the IP".

It just serves as further proof that CC doesn't offer anything at all to people who already have access to mods, since you can already get the same content for free. No one is going to decide to pay instead of downloading for free just because the paid option had the idea first.

>>389332487
this is fucking nintendo though adults buy consoles because they know it's usually family friendly.

Paid mods would be a gold mine.

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>>389332363
Company worship, not even once. I don't care how passionate a developer comes off as, they will eventually get to the point where they start taking advantage of all that good will and eventually go the way of Valve and Bethesda. It's almost inevitable. As much as I enjoy their games, CDPR makes me nervous for this very reason.

They may be cool now, but I feel like it's only a matter of time with the way people suck them off and hail them as the best thing since sliced bread. I hope that's just me being cynical, but this industry is in such a state that I don't think its unreasonable to be cautious.

>>389332564
I was agreeing. Kids will buy every single shiny thing like crows with credit cards.

>>389331916

From an end user perspective you might be right.

However, from a corporate perspective the upper management is likely pleased because he's actively dismissing any negative connotations.

>>389332885
>Mr. Altman, 20 thousand people complained about this. I told them to fuck off
>Well done, not a single complain then
I get where you're coming from, but it's one thing to defuse a situation and another to just pretend the problem went away

>>389331875
I just realised how much ammunition Todd has given to someone who wants to perform a kidnapping/corporate takeover.
>"You see that corporate ladder? I can climb it."
>"You'll never get away with this!" "Of course I will. It. Just. Works."

>>389332662
Why cant people rate works individually regardless of who make them?
Companies are not your friends, I guess people need to feel like part of something or friends with someone that they idolize?
I dont know Ive never had that problem

>>389333217

>bethesda
>capable of climbing ladders

lol betheshita devs still can't do ladders and pretend gamebryo can't do them while Larian had ladders with Gamebryo in Divinity 2. (i think it was gamebryo)

>>389329708

I call bullshit on this tweet. Archive now.

How is Pete in the wrong here?

>>389333217
>HA. We don't have working ladders!
A corporate takeover in the form of memes. Well, this is the future we choose.

>>389333301
Its all marketing if I had to guess. You see it all the time at events like E3 where they show videos of the developers saying how much they love games and how passionate and caring they are, yadda yadda. Bethesdaland was the perfect example of this despite how many people shat on it. It builds this mentality in gullible people that they actually care about them and don't just see them as dollar signs and sales figures.

>>389333301
>this company makes good games. i like them
>huh they've put out a few stinkers lately but maybe they'll recover
>holy shit they've gone full jew.

If you don't understand why people feel betrayed or upset about a company's fall from grace, you might genuinely be autistic.

>>389333114
>Our PR system is well known to be shit that doesn't ACTUALLY speak for the company in any way.
>People will tire themselves out arguing with the company idiot so they don't have time to ACTUALLY complain to the company, and his statements will never be taken as fact.

It's like hiring a drunk. On the one hand, terrible business decision. On the other hand no corporate accountability since nobody tells the PR guy anything, and everybody knows he's just making shit up and is a fake "online presence" just so people can pretend like they're arguments and complaints matter.

>>389333510
I think the main issue is that Bethesda will always be vague as to what is and isn't allwoed, letting the fine print fuck anyone they want. So let's say someone makes the Hellfire armor, slightly modified, from scratch. Bethesda can just claim it's theirs, not allow the modder any money but they'll keep selling it on the basis of fuck you, it's mine.

>>389330485
https://twitter.com/RoodyPudoo/status/730602253829050368

>2017
>people are still gonna buy bethesda published games

hmmmm

>>389333712
That is not what I was talking about.

>>389333720
>vp of pr/mktg at bethesda. this is my personal twitter acct. warning: i tweet about our games, and many other random things. http://www.bethesda.net
This is from his twitter. I guess he does have the excuse of "personal account", so yeah, it's like arguing with a wall.

>>389333831
At least he can take a joke.

>>389328993
Never. Bethesda Studio is actually unironically run by a bunch of incompetent high school buddies.

Reminder that Todd had to basically beg his way into Bethesda and than destroyed everything good about it slowly over the years

>>389333510
He's not wrong, but Bethesda is still a bunch of incredible jews for putting a price tag on such basic shit.

100% of companies have a no slander/upstanding citizen rule when you're discussing your companies goods and policies on any public forum.

>>389327570
The mental gymnastics at work here are A+ grade

Didn't he also call someone a idiot over starfield not being shown at E3?

>>389335896
Wasn't there some back and forth because a leaker said here they cancelled announcing starfield cause they were trying to find the leaker or something similar?
Knowing Peter, it's not unthinkable but I can't seem to find anything relating to that.

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>>389335896
Found this

>>389336276
Something like that. They were saying the reason there were stars during the conference was because it was pulled last minute, and I think they said there was a hint about it in their Bethesdaland video.

>>389336523
That's what it was, thanks.

>>389336592
The dude on the right wasn't even insulting or anything. He just wanted more and Pete's first reaction is going for the jugular.
>Oh, you want to discuss the things you love from a company you enjoy?
>Well, not my problem you idiot

>>389336531
Makes sense. A bit weird to pull such a big announcement just because of a leaker but still. This is Creation Club's Bethesda now. Maybe they're aiming for some serious greedy strategy and they can't afford the bad rep before its released.

>>389336523
He's not wrong though.

>>389336747
Pete always seems to act very blunt and dismissive to people on twitter.

>>389336930
In what aspect? The part about not needing others to speak for you or the not listening to message boards?
The former, yeah, although he comes across as a cunt, ironically, as if he was on /v/ with the sweetheart shit. The latter, the commentor wasn't even implying anything, he just wanted more and Pete's instinct is to tell the dude to fuck off.
>>389337102
Either he knows no harm will come to him since he'll still be employed, no matter how much he fucks up, or he's protected by the idea that this is his personal account, so he can shitpost all he wants. I just don't know why people even started to give a shit about him. He's just the PR guy. Is no other Bethesda dev on Twitter?

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>>389336531
>>389336842
Bethesda started a thing with Fallout 4 where they only announce a game if its coming out by the end of that same year. Considering it usually takes them about 4 years to complete development of any game they're working on at any given time and it hasn't been that long since FO4, I don't think that's the reason. Every game they announced at Bethesdaland is set to come out by the end of this year.

Starfield and that other IP they're working on are both a good couple of years off I reckon.

>>389327570
Bethesda should be openly mocked for thinking they can get away with any of this shit.

How long before the creation club gets shut down? Or did People actually fall for this failure of a cash grab?

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>>389329316

>>389337285
True, they did set a precedent for what their E3 shows mean. Might be the only thing I'll defend them for. It's not just "here's a trailer for a game that only comes out in five years. Get hyped faggots"

Wait, wait, wait. So the more women and non-whites there are, the worse Western games get? Wow, I'm literally shocked. Imagine if a Japanese game company hired gay and Africans for their games.

>>389329708
>>389333394
Yeah, there's no way somebody in this field would get away with a tweet like that.

>>389337458
Wrong thread buddy.

389337506
You

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:^)

>>389337458
Are you lost?

>>389336523
>don't listen to idiots frome message boards!!!!
Was Salulard actually legit leaker? They usually ignore all the "leaks", but they are acting different this time.

>>389330058
Randy Pritchford

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>>389327570
>You can't claim "first" for a thing someone else created
>"First" is FO3
Umm actually sweetie, Fallout 1 came first, which someone else created.

>>389338323
He was talking about hellfire armor

>>389338397
It seems like a pretty broad statement to me. If it applies for one thing, it does for everything else.

>>389328056
What a retard

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>>389337843
It did seem like the show was missing something, and I'm sure they were aware of people talking about a new space theme IP. Very likely, the leaker was legit and they went into overdrive to find the guy.
Spoiler it was Todd

>>389329232
He's the fucking VP

Imagine how shit his job must be right now that people are up in arms against the CC.

>>389331450
Mickey mouse will never move into public domain. Political bribery is legal in the US (see: lobbying, citizens united) so disney will push the copyright laws further and further and nothing will enter the public domain again as long as money is all that matters.

>>389338952
I honestly wonder for how long they'll manage to delay or if they'll convince the government to pass a new law where if a company owns an IP, it can never fall under public domain, meaning as long as there's Disney, the Mouse stays protected.

>>389339383
As long as Disney is filthy rich (See:Always) they can just lobby time and time again for an extension.

They probably wont go for perma ownership because they might want to take advantage of some old stuff that falls out of protection before they need to extend it again.

>>389329849
Its fake idiot

>>389330146
>He basically tells people to fuck off
Hes right to. The public are morons even if bethesda are stupid too.

>>389339484
That's the thing. They want stuff to fall under public domain so they can snatch it with their own version that becomes the standard. Technically, snow white is public domain but try to do anything with it and you'll be under Disney's crosshair. Obviously my proposal would be abused to hell and back but realistically, every system is abused and Disney is the one pushing it. This way, at least not everyone gets fucked.

>>389338464
No

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T-REX ARM HAVING

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>>389330308
But Anon, they're the DNA of the Soul!

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>tfw have pirated all DLC and just downloaded mods
>tfw have to pirate all DLC and mods
so basically nothing changes, right?

>>389341631
> have to pirate mods
Well, it's not like they are selling anything useful and there are rumors that bethesda takes all the profit from mods so CC gonna die quickly

>>389330058
Notch

>>389327570
>inb4 they start pushing copyright claims on the free mods

You know they want to.

>>389330058
Did you forget Kamiya exists or what?

>>389331232
Where would fighting games be on this list?

>>389331232
How was this data gathered? How can you evaluate the percentage of women playing "Atmospheric Exploration" games with even a shred of accuracy.

Not to mention MMO, where 90% of female characters are played by men.

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>"new" CC content goes up
>moder makes it better by modding it
>mods for mods
This is going to happen and I can't wait.

so has someone made a creation club piracy site yet? i don't even have fo4 i just want to make sure people can screw bethesda

>>389336523
lol at the little russian faggot begging for more elder shit
the only good thing bethesda do now is let ID/machinegames do whatever the fuck they want with their FPSs and don't interfere in any way
can't wait to throatstab nazis in TNC

>>389331232
That only shows how much of a idiot he is
Doesnt even understands the segment he is trying to reach

I do think he's right.

It's like people saying that War Thunder plagiarized its tanks from World of Tanks.

They're two different objects built from scratch imitating something that already existed.

>>389338323
nice fail, roastie

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>look for mods for f4
>nothing even remotely interesting or as good as FNV mods

>>389333314

Isn't the issue not that they can't do ladders, but that they can't get NPCs to not flip their shit at them?

>>389344784
If the tank is fake and made up by world of tanks, it is. There are design documents for all tanks in those games. This is nowhere near the same.

>>389345304

How is it not?

Two separate groups created their own versions of the Panzer IV. They look almost identical because they're both based on the same thing.

How is that different from modders and Bethesda both making versions of armor that appeared in Fallout 3? Which I'd like to point out that the two models in this case have different designs and the Bethesda made version is more faithful to the original model.

The issue is with the nature of paid mods itself and how insanely overpriced it is. There's no way I'd pay for it but I pirated Bethesdas version because I vastly prefer it.

>>389331232
>open world is its own genre
Who made this, lol.

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>>389327570
pete hines is a fucking retard

>>389329849
Are you new or just a pedogaf fag?
>we make them into memes
>named reaction image.jpg
Fucking kill yourself

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>>389331634
I did research on that, actually, and all I had found was that anon post. The only real "proof" of that is the end result of Mirror's Edge Catalyst. I mean, I believe it, given what we got, but it's not something I can confirm with certainty.

>>389345304
the E50M is 100% made up and the design is even patented(copyrighted ? one of those two) by Wargaming and the same goes for a few others too

EXPECT CEASE AND DECEASE ON ANY MOD USING COPY RIGHT MATERIAL.
NO MORE SPONGE BOB MEMES FELLAS

>>389330853
So CC was long planned out by Bethesda to encourage modders to do more work even faster so they have to do even less testing and work on their games before releasing. That's actually genius because the modders will do their work Bethesda doesn't

>>389343728
Below sports.

Who even cares? Will you buy it? Of course not so stop sperging around.

If I was mad because of all the niggers in africa selling literal rocks to stupid americans I'd be dead by now. But I just don't give a shit.

And I'll reiterate what I said way back when paid mods was a thing. This will just weed out the real modders from the get rich quick faggots. Like it did then.

The bethesda version of hellfire looks superior to the old mod one but no mod is worth $5

>>389351584
I let retards get away with microtransactions and "progression", now every multiplayer has gambling-based cosmetics that only get worse with each update and fucking grinding. So it'd be more like if your daily life changed because business found out amerifats are really dumb customers.

>>389338323
You managed to be more retarded than Pete Hines.

Congratulations.

>>389330024
They cried about the "gf mode" but they still bought Gaige which is the character they were talking about and praised her as a great female character.

Guys why is Fallout 4 so fucking boring? New Vegas 2 when?

>>389337330
Wait, is he talking about us??

>>389355703
about salulard

>>389338323
gave me a kek but I know you're just baiting. we all know there's no such thing as FO1 or 2 for that matter.

>>389329393
(you)'re the only manlet here

Is Todd posting reddit?