So where exactly did the Lord Souls come from? Since they're "souls", in the context of the Dark Souls universe that implies that they, (before they were inherited by Gwyn, Nito, Izalith and the Pygmy), belonged to someone (or something) that somehow ended up in the First Flame when it appeared. But if Gwyn and Co weren't the first lords, who were the original lords who presumably were the original owners of these four great souls? Was the "beginning" shown in the intro of Dark Souls 1 truly the "beginning" or did everything happen before (perhaps countless times). Was the "First Flame" actually not the first, and Gwyn and friends were simply the next to find the lord souls after a new "First" Flame appeared?