Gothic

>>389293720
Gothic is pretty good, but what kind of retarded snow monkey language is being spoken in that pic?

Why is the control scheme so retarded

>>389293720
>always told it's one of the best RPG series of all time
>buy all three
>they're all rancid garbage

>>389293915
Because its not for point and click casuals

>>389293810
Polish?

>>389294185
Nice try Sleeper

>>389294185
>he hasn't played the fourth game
Best one

The script says I should ask about Gomez.

>>389293915
Because the game wasn't designed by human beings.

>>389294185
literally this

one of the clunkiest, ugliest games I've ever played

WHY DO PEOPLE KEEP WALKING THROUGH MY HOUSE

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>>389294185

>>389294917
>Gothic 2 came out a few months after Morrowind
>and it still had all the first game's problems
>and four years later Oblivion and Gothic 3 come out
>but only one of the tried to improve
There's a solid reason why TES is still around but Gothic isn't.

>>389294185
KRUSHAK
BAD!

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>>389293720

>>389294917
>>389294185
t. TES babbies

>>389296502
They people behind Gothic still exist tho. They just don't want to make another Gothic game.

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>>389293915
>>389294185
>>389294917

>>389297740
They lost the rights to Gothic because publishers jewd them then they tried to make 4 which was horrendous and Gothic died.

>>389297969
OBSESSED

>>389298020
You could have just said that you don't know what you are talking about.

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>>389298164
Nice of you to expose yourself, Witchercuck.

>>389294297
okay but why would you play a game in a dead language

>>389297503
Sorry, m8, but TES is simply a better series.

Shit, not only does Morrowind still work today without mods, but it was also made future-proof by having an in-game tutorial.

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>>389294185
What was bad about Gothic 2?

>>389298165
Nigga are you retarded? They lost the rights to the franchise because of their publisher for 5 years and because 4 was so garbage and they started making their own games, nobody was interested in Gothic anymore. If the publishers hadn't stolen their game we'd still have Gothics instead of Risens.

>>389298694
>not only does Morrowind still work today without mods
so does Gothic

>but it was also made future-proof by having an in-game tutorial
so you're saying gamers these days are too dumb to figure games out on their own they need a tutorial? gotcha. that's exactly the type that plays TES games.

It's trash

You cant even pick up items

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I just got Gothic from all the daily post that faggot op makes, because it looks fun after all.
How do I start?

>>389298694
its always the morrowind babbies.

>>389300621
>How do I start?
You launch the game.

Gothic is the best RPG ever made

>>389298694
>this triggers the morroshitter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PcUQQOODv0

>>389302412
https://youtu.be/a_Wmbwe8SyU

>>389302623
hmm. he's killing an endgame enemy that my character can kill in 3 hits. Because he is at level 1. Your point morroshitter?

>>389302295
And then?

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>>389302869
Hmm. Almost like the video you posted where characters not spec'd in the appropriate weapons deal shit damage in Morrowind.

>>389303062
You play it.

>>389303065
video shows both early/mid game for both games. Nice try morroshitter.

>open gothic thread
>excited to talk about game
>its just another gothic vs morrowing shitposting war

>>389303320
False, nice try Gothicshitter.

>>389303467

pick your game and start participating, faggot
This is what we do in these gothic threads

>>389303635
whatever helps you sleep boy.

>>389303813
Poor Kraut, clinging to his dead series with falsified videos and claims. So sad.

>>389293720
you're supposed to wait til its on sale again before spamming goat threads

>Get to the Temple of the Sleeper
>A door bugs out and traps me in one of the rooms where you fight one of the orc shamans
>Have to reload and do a bunch of shit again
>Wander around looking for the last orc shaman to kill
>Finally look up a guide after wandering for almost an hour
>Turns out a gate that is supposed to be open closed itself at some point
>Have to reload a save from when I first entered the temple to fix it
>Ragequit

I haven't touched the game since.

>>389303907
its better to be dead and the greatest rpg ever made, than overrated trash that everyone and their mom played.

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>>389303467
What is there to talk about without spoiling things? Nu/v/ is too young to have played the game. The game itself is just walking around going full blown autist kraut mode picking up everything that isn't nailed down in your bottomless inventory and systematically murdering everything because the game uses natural progression. The maps are very compact and the quests are well designed with multiple solutions you have to puzzle out, and there are choices that genuinely effect how the game unfolds. The voice acting is questionable but charming. The control scheme is actually quite good if you don't use a mouse and the combat is pretty fun. Overall it puts modern open world RPGs to absolute shame. There you go, Gothic in a nutshell.

And by the way, if you like Gothic you will probably like Morrowind, and vice versa. This stupid shit needs to stop.

>>389304698
You aren't missing anything, it has a terrible ending.

>boot up the first game
>it crashes
>and crashes again
>give up

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>>389293720
>The GOAT RPG
MM6 has better world map and dungeon design and uses the same natural progression concepts.

>>389304895

this

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>>389293720
>>389305306
Lands of Lore has far better dungeon design, much better characters, (one of which is even voiced by patrick stewart) better puzzles, and the soundtrack is top tier.

>>389303236
And then? How do I brake the game?

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>>389293720
>>389305306
>>389305454
Demon's Souls has better combat, atmosphere, character progression, and NPC agency.

>>389304895
>>389305306
what do you mean when you say natural progession.

>>389305534
What?

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>>389293720
>>389305306
>>389305454
>>389305893
BG2 has better combat encounters, character development, itemization, quests, and dungeon design.

Should I keep going? Not sure if anyone really gives a shit.

>>389305306
>>389305454
Good games, but I don't consider them in the same style. For one, they are party based games. For two, they are large open worlds, not small and compact like Gothic 1 and 2.

The original Dark Souls is ironically similar in this small, open, compact, world design philosphy, but does it in a different way by make it loop around on itself.

>>389305967
The only thing preventing you from going places is the difficulty of the enemies there, which can be reduced by growing stronger completing easier areas. You naturally move from one area to the next as you grow stronger.

>>389306214
>For two, they are large open worlds, not small and compact like Gothic 1 and 2
Every game posted so far is very compact and has minimal empty space.

>>389306115
BG2 is legitimately the only game in this thread that could compete with Gothic 2 as the greatest rpg ever made. Only problems is combat is very imbalanced (magic rapes everything), and encounters get boring after you get strong as fuck by the end (you just want to finish the game).

>>389306597
not as compact as Gothic 1 and 2. I can remember where walls bend, where signposts are, where enemies spawn, and where plants are, not because of nostalgia or good memory (I only played them 6 months ago), but because the world wasn't built as a tool for just exploring an area and never heading back to it. You go to each area multiple times for quests and enemy re-spawns between chapters.

Thats why I said Dark Souls is so similar and why it's so good. You explore the same places over and over and familiarize yourself with it to the point of memorization. This was lost in DS2 and 3.

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>>389293720
You used the wrong image, OP. Here you go.

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>>389307840
too smol

>>389296502
It's funny because both Oblivion and Gothic 3 fucking sucked

>>389293720
I beat it a few days ago. I guess it was good for it's time but to me it was just OK at best.
The combat was clunky as shit, and the lack of helmets and shields kind of bothered me.
And I can't be bothered to get II to work right now. (I'm never buying a game on steam again.)
New camp is best camp.

>>389308375
I didn't like how clunky and more ugly looking 1 was compared to 2. 2 with notr is the GOAT for me.

>>389305967
monster placement and stats are static and fixed, instead of scaling to your level and respawning dynamically like they do in oblivion for example. also, the world is technically completely open right from the beginning, except for a few storyline related places that are opened up by events in the main story.

as an example to illustrate this, in gothic 1 there is an area in the south-west of the map that is not covered by regular maps, and the two roads that lead there are blocked off by guards. when you talk to them, they tell you that this area is where the orks live, and advise you to not go there.
you can enter it right from the beginning, but it is populated by dangerous enemies like ork hounds, orks, fire varans and razors. these will kill you in one hit and are all but impossible to kill for you.

you are sent into this area in act 4, and by that point you can actually fight those enemies, but you are free to enter it before that point if you want, and if you find a way to deal with the nasty enemies, it is very rewarding to do so. but for a normal playthrough, the danger of the place naturally deters you from entering it before you actually have to.
that's natural progression.

>>389308369
You have to remember that Oblivion kiddos played it on their brand new xbox 360s and ps3s that they just got for christmas when they were 10 or 12. Now they are over 20 and have nostalgia for it.

>>389305967
Its called natural progression borders, not just natural progression, but he's retarded.

>>389308604
You are a faggot
Gothic 1 is better in every way

>>389310315
You are a faggot. 2 is better in every way.

>>389310315
the only thing G1 has over its sequel is the novelty and uniqueness of its setting, and a better storyline.

G2 with NotR completely blows G1 out of the water in every way imaginable.

>>389293720
Deine Mutter treibt's mit Zigen

>>389307293
>Its a DaS retard is delusional episode
DaS is not good. The world design is exponentially worse due to being open world instead of segmented like DeS. The amount that enemy placement alone suffers from the devs compensating for players being able to go through zones backwards hurts it tremendously. Never mind literally every aspect of the game being worse. And those games are just as compact as Gothic, some actually far more so. You are completely wrong.

>>389309085
Yep, I can still remember the first night in Oblivion. Fuck man, wanderlust from a game...