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Well /v/, can you last a month? playspent.org

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Well /v/, can you last a month?
playspent.org
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>>389276916
>pay literally $0 for food
>still run out of money cause the game just spams you with sudden unexpected bills you have no control over
Not even a good poverty simulator. 2/10
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>>389276916
>trying to live on your own
>while being a single parent
>haven't even paid your goddamn student loans
I understand many people live like this and this simulator is meant to make me feel bad for them, but it's not my fault they're complete fucking retards.
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Made it through with 567 dollars left. Man, life must be hell living in a third world hole like America.
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>>389278017
They're liberal arts majors who slutted around and got pregnant at 17. Their black bf left them all alone, and now we have to pay.
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>>389278472
BUT RENT'S DUE TOMORROW ANON
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>>389278950
I'll just suck the landlord off so he gives me a pass
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>>389278950
>actually finish with enough to make rent
Yeah fuck you game
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How the fuck is lifting 20 lbs back-breaking work?
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Wageslave poorfag hell.

If this were my life I'd pack up and leave. Except if I had a kid. Then I'd be proper fucked.
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>>389279328
don't worry, the landlord will increase it illegally again
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How is my rent $725/mo when it's 50 fucking miles from work?
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YOU MADE IT THROUGH THE MONTH WITH $264
(BUT RENT'S DUE TOMORROW)

This game's kinda deep though, too bad I don't trust charities.
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>>389279427

I love how when he illegally raises rent you don't have the option to take him to court. You could just go to any lawyer who'll work on contingency, show him the lease agreement which forbids sudden rent increases, and he'll take that case in an instant because you are guaranteed to win.
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>>389276916
>Modeled after an american way of life
Nah, I would rather not pretend to be a subhuman in a third world country, thank you very much.
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>>389279651

More importantly, why do you have to own a car and constantly pay for it to be repaired when you live within walking distance from work and school buses exist to take your kid to school?
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>>389276916
ez I even bought my kid ice cream
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>>389280162
How come you pay for car insurance when you can't use it to pay for your accidents?
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>>389279718
>deep
My fucking ass. You start as an american retard with a ton of debt.
>credit card
>due car payments
>kids
>even bothering to own a car when you work in the same town
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>>389280234

I get the feeling that the people who made this have never used their car insurance, don't understand why it exists, and only know that it's legally required to have.
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>>389276916
>Day 4
>Have to find a place to live.
>Keep $250 in my budget just in case.
>Game takes a while for next screen.
>Says I have to pay rent again.

Well golly gee, I'm sure glad you don't have to pay 2 months rent in one day in the real world.
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>that guy who made fun of you for living with your parents in your 20s

Ayy lmao
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?

What did this game want to convey again?
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>>389276916
why can't you choose not to start with kids? not to have a car?

stupid game
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>>389280982
Impossible, I call bullshit on this.
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>>389281246
you could at least TRY to hide your privilege!
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>>389278017
this desu, no wonder you're can barely afford food if you fucked up your life so much. I'm not saying that really poor people that just got fucked over by fate don't exist exist, but if you decide to have a kid while being poor AND in massive debt to begin with, you are just a complete fucking retard
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>Parents were strict as fuck
>Forced me to have a job by 16/17
>Gave me a credit card to use for EMERGENCIES ONLY (no suddenly deciding I wanted an entire console and games) that they taught me how to use
>Learn the value of money from an early age and don't get everything handed to me
>Get taught proper abstinence and don't have raging sex parties, always use condoms
>Got an actual degree in biology because of my passion for the human body, have since moved on to being a med student
>Didn't buy a car brand new, got one used that I fixed up (and this was AFTER searching for used car with a good deal)
>Live within my means, don't make steak dinners every night, only go out once a month or sometimes two if I have time and money (I know assholes who go to the bar literally every night and then cry they have no money)
>Only buy one full priced game a month, after that I give myself a limit of up to three no more than $20 games (or two $60 games) after that
>Live in a reasonable apartment a good distance from work and school out in the country, pay $525 for a two bedroom and I split rent and bills with a responsible girlfriend
>Have literally thousands in the bank

Yeah, nah. Sounds like this was a game made by spoiled liberal brats for their spoiled liberal brat friends to see who can jerk off the most about being the most broke. I ain't buyin' what you're selling, buddy.
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>>389281246
>7k credit card spendings
but why
gotta have that new iphone I guess
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>>389281603
>says he knows the value of money
>buys video games
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>>389280589
First month, last month
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>>389281246
This game is not about helping people that are having hard times, but helping people that did some dumb life choices
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>>389281603
You sound like a selfish bore. Good that you live with the stick up your ass your parents put there.

Sadly they didn't teach you about being humble.
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>>389281898
I wasn't living there last month.

In the first world, places only expect a deposit and 1 month depending on your housing agreement.
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>>389281603
The sad part is you only have thousands in the bank.
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>still living with my Mom at 25
>single, can't afford to get a house on a low wage
>don't like the idea of a landlord having power over me
>could be the nicest landlord in the world, but they still technically COULD just force me to pack up and leave one day (with notice) sounds so stressful
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>>389282024
First month, last month, month security.
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>>389281363
>He isn't well versed in the Way of the Jew
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>>389282261
What are you even saying, bro?
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>>389281951
>I'm suddenly not humble because some asshole lives a shitty life

lol, neckbeards
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>tfw 21 y/o college drop out living the wageslave life
As someone who's in a situation not too different from this simulation, this game is bullshit. I don't have a kid or a car, thus public transportation barely runs me $30 a month, and if you aren't stupid enough to have a kid in your teens/20's you can get roommates. My rent isn't even $400 monthly, and I still have enough money to save and burn on vidya, as well as afford to pay out of pocket when I go back to school in January.

I agree with the sentiment that poor people can use assistance but this isn't the way to do it.
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>Make stupid life choices
>Get depressed cause those stupid choices made life harder
>"But YOU can donate now and help these poor, depressed people who can't manage their money to save their lives!"
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>>389282117
Unless you stop paying rent for months or a total asshole, they won't force you out because they know you can sue.

You have a lot of power when it comes to Landlords because a lot of things are shit you shouldn't need to fix like a broken door or a leaky pipe.
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>>389282117
>>could be the nicest landlord in the world, but they still technically COULD just force me to pack up and leave one day (with notice) sounds so stressful

Lease agreements exist for a reason. You have to fuck up real fucking bad to get kicked out of an apartment, because if you have a 6- or 12-month lease agreement to pay a certain monthly amount the landlord has a ton of incentive to keep you living there. Kicking you out means nullifying the agreement, getting rid of your steady stream of rent, and having to spend time and money getting a new tenant to fill your now-empty apartment.
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>>389276916
So fucking easy, I made it through with one job strike that I couldn't avoid.

Literally First World Problems: The Game
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>>389282798

But now you can't afford to pay the rent that's due tomorrow.
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So the player in this game is
>a single parent
>got a degree in a useless field
>took out huge student loans
>bought a brand new car
>has a credit card and is in debt for $7000
>in horrible physical shape
>no personal hygiene
>incapable of washing clothes in a god damn sink and hanging them out to dry

This is more of a PSA to not be a gigantic fuckup and a warning to not make horrible life choices in your 20s.
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>>389282509
>>389282579
This. I'm the "selfish bore" from earlier in the thread, and I've lived at my place for almost eight years.

>Fat, greasy, slob asswipe of a neckbeard lives underneath me
>Gossiping maintenance talks about him whenever they come over, he lives like a fucking hoarder with literal piss bottles and garbage all over the fucking place
>They can't kick him out because he pays his rent and has zero complaints against him

Also in the eight years I've lived here I've gotten multiple doors fixed, my dishwasher fixed, a broken circuit when my electricity went all haywire fixed, and free bed bug treatment (later found out the bill went to the neckbeard because they traced it back to him, go figure).

The absolute worst I've ever dealt with here is when a new manager took over and changed the time on the community laundry room to close at 8 PM instead of 10.
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>>389276916
>There are jobs available
Unrealistic
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I spent all my money on toilet paper and still lasted a month
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>>389276916
ez game
ez life
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>>389282261

I paid a $100 security deposit and first month's rent (prorated down to the number of days from when I moved in to the end of the first month) when I moved into my current apartment, and it was the same at every other apartment I've lived in. I've never had to pay 3x rent just to move in someplace, that's fucking insane.
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>>389282891
It was my first run, I didn't know this game had some of the gay shit it has.

>a kid
>degree
>bad job

What the fuck is this guy doing? I will invoke the Jew in my later runs.
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>spring a leak
>landlord won't fix it

While I know this is something that happens, legally you have recourse, such as deducting repairs from rent.
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>random bills and expenses every single day
This game is bullshit. Nobody is that unlucky.
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>>389281951
>having personal responsibility now makes you "selfish"

Fuck off NEET
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>>389283451
You gotta see that shit from the perspective of someone who doesn't know what insurance does, or that landlords are supposed to fix their shit when it breaks, and who probably have no idea how to do shit like balance a checkbook or file their taxes.

Random bills are probably mail scams and fake bills you're falling for because you play the game as an uneducated retard.
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>>389282315
Three months rent to move in. I'd say about 25% of the listings I see still go with this model, the rest do 1/2 mo deposit.
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The game spends the whole time teaching you that unexpected things can come out of nowhere and take your money, then the ask for your money?

No nigga i need that money
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What's the matter, goyim?
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>>389276916
>gas costs
I live in a country with a good public transportation system, closed the site at that point.
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Was this supposed to be difficult?
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>>389283656

Yeah, that's bullshit. I've lived on my own for 8 years and move apartments about every 2 years and in all my apartment searching I've never seen a place require 3 months rent to move in, even in neighborhoods where they're clearly trying to keep poor people out with high salary requirements and shit.

It's usually either a 1-month rent security deposit or a half-month rent security deposit, plus paying for however many days are left in the month you move in. Then you pay full rent each month until your lease is up and either renew the lease for free or move out and get your security deposit refunded.
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>>389283807
>>389283885

Nice Javsacript hacks.
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>Grandparents die
>Leave enough of a legacy that even if I wanted to have kids, they'd grow up more than comfortable
>Basically just live off accumulated interest higher than inflation so free money

After being poor all my life, feels good man
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>>389284079
How dare you. I used cheat engine.
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>>389276916
>Literally every negative thing ever happens to you within the span of a month
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>>389284060
>Where they try to keep poor people out

Holy fucking shit I love that. That's why I've stayed in one place for eight years. Nothing says "no niggers" like saying "two kids only".
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>>389284102

>tfw never gotten any type of inheritance from any relatives dying
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>>389283639
this
they thought they were making a game about the importance of welfare

they were actually making a game about the importance of financial literacy
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>>389284219

Hell yes, my man. Combine that with requiring your gross monthly salary to be at least 3-4 times the monthly rent and you've got a peaceful paradise of an apartment complex.
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>>389281603
>Needing your parents to teach you how to save money

Nigga, it's common sense.
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>>389284492

Even "common sense" must be learned from somewhere.
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>30 dollars to go to a laundromat
What the fuck?
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>>389284492
Not particularly. A habitual spender is probably going to raise habitual spenders. Nurture wins out in this case. My sister and I were raised by a habitual spender of a single mother and it took a long time for the two of us to learn how to not spend every cent we earned and then some. You on the other hand, were probably raised by someone with a good, frugal head on their shoulders, so it sounds like common sense to you.
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>>389276916
>50 miles away from work in urban setting
>rent is still 700+ a month
where is this set exactly?
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>>389284819

Hell, I live in one of the most convenient areas of my city and a mile away from work and my rent is only $530. Midwest living, baby.
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>>389283272
In australia its 4 months rent. Makes moving from one rental to another a pretty big deal
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>>389284745

Honestly it's maybe like 15 at the most. Unless you're literally waiting for your entire wardrobe and linens to be filthy it shouldn't be that much.
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>here's your paycheck
>hey by the way your car broke down twice, you need a root canal, and your window broke twice
How the fuck does anyone have luck that bad?
>>389284763
how did you learn how? please let me know.
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>>389284492
you're overestimating the amount of knowledge the average person has about finance

there are people out there who probably think paying the minimum credit card balance is a good deal
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>>389284745
That's easily 10 loads of laundry. I don't know how a parent and child could accumulate that much clothing over a couple weeks, let alone own that much clothing to begin with considering how poor you're supposed to be.
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>>389284763
>mom is a spender
>see how she stresses over money even while it is completely manageable
>realize she is stupid
>do the opposite

Even bad parenting teaches lessons, anon.
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>>389276916
>live zero miles away from work
>hurrrr ur car broke down gotta fix it!!!!
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I got a tooth that was fucked up and my only two options were to use numbing gel or get a root canal for 400 bucks. You can get the tooth pulled as a third option and it's cheap.
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>>389276916
>Choose to working in office job
>While working in a retail store, your dumbass drops a vase, pay up.

This is like a more absurd Monopoly. fuck this game.
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>>389285079
>also your landlord is extremely corrupt, everything in this city is 10x the cost of what it would normally be, your dog needs surgery, and your child practically doesn't have an immune system
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>>389285197
Also the insurance you buy at the beginning of the game for some reason doesn't include dental, and none of the jobs offer any benefits. Fuck, even when I worked at a shitty grocery store they still offered health/dental insurance.
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I don't live in the USA, so health insurance is a foreign concept.
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>>389285246
>It's also national give $300 to people or go to jail for corruption and lose your job day.
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Poorfags don't know it but it's infinitely more stressful to have money than to not have it. You're constantly looking for ways to make it grow and a couple shit decisions can ruin everything, other people come to you asking for help and you need to decide what is or isn't bullshit. When you're poor, it's just a matter of spending a couple extra minutes looking for bargains and being smart enough to not force yourself into a shitty job.
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>>389284060
I live in boston and you pay first month, last month, and one month security deposit
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No kid, no expenses. Get fucked cucks.
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this is the worst shit
how is it possible to be this much of a fuckup
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>>389285396
Same here.
>work at a movie theater for minimum wage
>sick leave as long as I (or they) can find a replacement, which has literally never been a struggle
>but you work at a warehouse and they don't care about good PR
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>get hurt on the job
>tell your boss you need to file an injury report
>he laughs
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>have to pay for healthcare
>those absurd sums of money
well no fucking shit you are poor, life in third-world countries is hard, this is nothing new
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>ask a friend for help and move in with him
>kid smashes window and expects me to pay for it
>i have a child when i cant even afford clothes
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>>389285517

That sounds like hell. I'm glad I live in the midwest.
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>>389276916
aside from having a shitty kid, it's accurate to my life. Feels bad man. At least I'm not bringing in another human to share in my misery. Also I WISH I could find a job as good as these example ones.
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>car gets repossed
>have to pay a spending ticket, broken window and something going wrong for a car that isn't in my possession anymore.

Are people this retarded?
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>>389282291
>>389280982
>>389283204
>finally figure how these fags are doing so well
>they borrow money and don't pay it back

lmao, this is why americans are so poor, they borrow and borrow without paying that shit back.
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The parts where you have the option to ask a friend for help but it wants to link to your facebook account hits pretty close to home. Having no friends makes life such a pain.
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>>389285246
My dog had to be put down on the 5th day of the month. For fucks sake - if a pet lives about 10 years, there isn't even a 1% chance that it would need to die in a month.
>groceries are also double the typical price
I live right outside a big city, and my local grocery store carries this stuff for much cheaper.
>peanut butter is $4 - no, it's $2
>spaghetti for $3 - must be organic
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>>389286104
I finished with $1300 and the only icon I had in the corner was for the root canal
Clearly you still aren't one with the jew.
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>link doesn't go anywhere in chrome
>oh yeah, scripts
>enable domain's scripts
>still black screen
>facebook and some .ru shit also in the script list
yeah, naw, besides from the sounds of this thread it's just managing expenses only a retard would get themselves into first.
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>bullshit insurance
>high house prices 50 miles away
>random bills far too often
>have a child and all that shit to pay for, what happened to the mother? Is she in prison? Is she dead?
>loans for a shit degree
>has a car even if you live as close to work as you can get
>$7000 credit card bill, what the fuck?
Shitty life choices.
>"Share this on facebook" cop-out choice
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>>389276916
I've been in poverty literally my entire life, and this is a pretty shitty simulation of it.
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>>389284492
Common sense isn't common
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>>389286104
suck it
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>>389276916
Nonsense game. I wouldn't have a pet and a kid before moving out, I'd exercise regularly enough to avoid health issues, and wouldn't let some cunt increase my rent abruptly. Made it the month with over $300 dollars though.
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>Landlord charges you for repairs
>Friend decides he can just live in your house for free
>Landlord arbitrarily raises you rent
>"lol poor people don't have access to legal services"
Wow so realistic
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Why is leaving your child home alone while they are sick supposed to be the "bad" option? When growing up my family was by no means poor but past the age of 10 my parents would leave me home alone if I was sick
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>>389281603
>Having parents that cared about you

Already privileged enough compared to most people down on their luck.
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>>389286625
sleazy neighbors or just white people in general will call cps if they see a kid home alone. absolutely ruining a family
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>>389286732
How will they see that?
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>>389286625
In some states it's illegal to leave a young child at home alone
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>Get your car impounded
>The game says you're fired from your job because you can't drive to work
>Even though earlier I went to work by bus because someone syphoned my gas

Who wrote this shit? None of these retards have gone hungry a day in their life.
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This is what happens when you're not railroaded by dumb emotional decisions.

Also, I am poor as shit, 29, refuse to get a job, don't live with mommy and daddy, and eat out of the trash.

Scavenging forever.
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>>389286852
white people are nosy, they'll find a way
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>>389285109
$30 factoring in gas money and gas station stops etc for your dumb kids - adds up fast
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>>389276916
>Paying $4 for a gallon of milk
>Paying $7 for 3 pounds of chicken
>Paying 3$ for tomatoes
>Paying 3$ for fish sticks
I'm not shocked that the sheltered liberals that made this game don't understand the concept of buying things on sale.
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>>389286732

>That annoying thing that white people do where they self reference white people to seemingly distinguish themselves from the 'bad ones'

Fuck you, this shitty cliche, and everyone who ever thought it was funny.
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>loans
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>>389287179
>supposed to be an accurate representation of how hard it is to live while poor
>at no point is there ever a hint of realism in the prices or situations
It's like they don't even know any fucking poor people and didn't even try interviewing anyone in the course of making this """game"""
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sure i can
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>>389279871
You're guaranteed to win in years, though. Years. A lawyer will only work on contingency if he's absolutely sure that they can get the case settled out of court swiftly. Your landlord will know that you're dirt poor and can't afford the lawyer so he's sure to take it to court and just laugh when the lawyer realizes he's not going to see green for far too long to make it worth his time.

Justice is blind, anon, and that's not always a good thing.
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>>389287258
I'm asian and i've had enough experiences with white people to know the shit they do
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>>389279119
This
>Not becoming his sissy sexslave so he buys you cute pink clothes and drugs you and whatever else those faggy hypno gifs I jack off to say
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>>389287360
How the hell could it take years when the rent is literally written into the lease?
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>>389278017
>mfw single
>mfw Living on my own
>mfw all my students debts are paid off
Feels good not to live in America
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>>389287258
>implying it's black people calling the cops because they spy some kid in front of a tv without mommy hand-feeding him some tendies
it IS white people, lower your redpill dosage
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>>389287527
You don't have to live outside America to be able to pay off student loans.
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>>389278017
>have sociology project
>supposed to create budget for a 'minimum wage' scenario with 2 kids
>"can I get child support from the other parent?"
>no
>"can I choose to live someplace where rent doesn't take my entire monthly budget?"
>no
>"can I work overtime?"
>no
>"can I get any kind of government assistance or help from family members?"
>no
>"can I donate blood plasma or sperm or whatever to gain extra money?"
>no

Yeah, no sympathy. I get the idea that I'm supposed to learn that minimum wage sucks dick, but I didn't choose to fuck around without strapping my shit and get dumped with two anchor babies like an idiot, and even if I did there are options I'm barred from taking for some dumbfuck reason. If the goal is "meet this budget" I don't see why I can't use real-world solutions to scrape together some extra money or lower my expenditures in other ways. Of course, if I WAS allowed to do these things I'd probably come in under budget and prove the point my professor is trying to make is stupid.
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>kids shoes are getting worn out
>"Name brands are important but costly."
Really sums up American priorities and this "game" in general.
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>>389286207
Pretty much nobody would help with something you really need
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>>389287531

Black people fucking love calling the cops on other people. Work anywhere with them and you'll figure that out. Every single thing a person does, it's "I'M PRESSIN' CHURGES, CALL THE POHLEESE'. White people do that shit, too, but nosyness transcends race.

>>389287381

You can't be that fucking Asian if you don't think that Asian women between 35-60 are the nosiest motherfuckers to have ever existed.
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>>389287447
>ahahahahhahahah
> reality vs expectations
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>>389287705
I don't even get the point, since they'll just trade some EBT for Jordans anyway
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>>389287636

People outside America don't have "student loans" because they don't exist.
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>Finished with 800$ left

Live close to work, sell car. Also why the fuck does this dude need a cellphone plan lol. I wish there was an option to put your dumbass kid up for adoption, every other day hes acting like a spoiled brat
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>Do you want to wait tables for $2 an hour, work temp for $8 an hour or do warehouse labor for $9 an hour
How about I get a fucking real job?
Never seen a warehouse pay less than $16 an hour either.

Besides, if you've lost your fucking house and have $8000 in credit card debt why don't you file for fucking bankruptcy already
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>>389282261
>>389282315
>>389282024
>Trying to explain shit to jobless neets

Lmao
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>Live 0 miles from work
>Sorry you still need a car lol
>Also car insurance due tomorrow
>Also inspection due

This is such bullshit. I live in a city and walk to work and haven't had a car forever. What a nonsense "simulation". So much money I'd have in this game if that bullshit wasn't happening.
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>>389288032
>warehouse labor
>ZERO (0) job benefits
simply epic
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Hideously rigged against you.
I wanna see them make a game that genuinely examines human behavior that gets you into huge debt, not this shit of "HEY YOU HAVE 7K IN BILLS FROM YOUR CREDIT CARD LAWL"
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>>389284492
>i came out of the womb knowing how to do taxes and start a checking account
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>>389281603
>He post this in the video game board and expects people to believe him.
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>people genuinely don't realize this is just a false flag to increase animosity between lower classes
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made it with 452 left and a root canal debuff. Hillariously rng based and rigged against you, but I guess that's life
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>>389288360
No but I once came out of the library with a book about it
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>>389287527
American here. I'm single, living on my own in a big tech city where rent is pretty high, but make enough money to cover it and all my food comfortably. Have about 1k disposable income/month even after accounting for savings and investments.

I also have no student loans because I'm not retarded. Worked hard and got a scholarship that paid my tuition, and worked a job to cover my other shit while in college.

EZ
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>PoS kid and their fat friend want 5 dollars for ice cream
>Kid has 16 bucks in their piggy bank
>No option to tell kid to use their own money

One reason why they will also be poor.
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>>389276916
made it
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>I have a kid but no job

Lol

What is this, some sort of Stacy simulator?
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>>389276916
>pay for a window someone else broke

no spent this is not how real life works

where is the option to live with room mates?

why do I have a car that I don't own? I wouldnt finance a car.
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>sink is leaking
>50$
you can fix it with 15$ max
>food charity
>but you need to wait one month for it
honeslty? they give you stuff the next day
>30$ to wash your clothes
>2 weeks in, 9 fucking kilogram stuff is killing his back
fuck it
>someone took my car's gaz
>I gave it up on the road 1 week ago
>despite being deep in povrety, I have a pet, illegally
>car again, despite not having one
>eating pasta for the past 2 weeks, yet I'm somehow fat

>still finish with 700$
considering I won't have to buy food, I won't have a car, in less than a year, I'll have (taking rent into consideration) +5000$
was this supposed to guilt trip out for poorfags who make the dumbest decisions?
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when I was growing up my parents always just said "you don't need it" and I played with things that I didn't own myself
Then as I was growing up, my Dad got really lucky and suddenly we had spending money. But by then, I was raised poor as shit, so I still act like I can't afford things or can do without them
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>>389289000
They're fantasy scenarios to get money out of dumbasses who have never had a difficult day in their lives.
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Get to my level, casuals. I would've walked away with $1500 if this shitstain of a simulation didn't bombard me with bills and car insurance on the last days.
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>>389276916
I made it through by being a sociopath but fuck it, gotta look out for numero uno and my imaginary demon spawn.
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>>389287447
it takes time to see a judge

it takes time to deal with motions

it takes time for your angel lawyer to find your poor ass in the dumpster when your landlord kicked you out and you cant find a new house because youre dirt poor
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>>389288520
And how old were you? 50? 40?
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lol im keepin mah dollar
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>>389289150
I actually didn't think the 10$ had to do something with real money, I though it was to share it with some random, like in those phone games where you get daily actions in your friendlist

well that's good then, if dumbasses are willing to pay, they don't need it
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>>389289362
You don't need to be over 40 years old to visit a library you dumb nigger
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>>389289428
I'm only assuming the worst based on how much the "game" bashes a message over your head.
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>Single parent
>Don't have a job
>Don't have health insurance
>Don't have a home
>Have a college degree somehow but don't have a job with that degree for some fucking reason
>Have a pet even though it's against the rules for some fucking reason
>Apartment doesn't have a washer/dryer for some fucking reason
>Kid is a little shit-nosed fucking retard that doesn't want to eat free lunch because they get made fun of
>Speed in your car and get a ticket
>Landlord won't fix your leaky faucet - no choice to just not fix it since it's the landlord's fault
>Get fired for trying to unionize even though that's illegal
>"lol u got fired u cant get another job u jost gotta make it last"
>Landlord raises rent all of a sudden which is illegal
>"I want to go to a concert but UGH I GOT A DUMB KID"
>Get in a car accident because you're a shitty driver
>B-BUT RENT'S DUE TOMORROW THO
This game tries to make me feel bad for these people but it just affirms what I thought - they're a bunch of fucking idiots making stupid decisions.
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>>389289362
I think I was about 5 the first time I went to a library for a preschool field trip
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>Be me
>No education
>No car, no pets, no kids, no debt because those are the choices i've made
>Work 30 hours a week at $9 per hour
>Ends up being around $900 per month after taxes
>Rent is $225
>Utilities are about $75
>Spend around $150ish per month on food
>Have $400 to spend on whatever I want. Booze, cigs, clothes, vidya etc.
>Even get to save some money
>Get $1200 refund check every year to blow on whatever I want

Wow that was real difficult
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>>389289519
Noticed you didn't answer the question, my friend. Almost like you're aware that you jumped in on the argument with a retarded stance. That's certainly not the case, right?

>>389289567
To check out a book about financial economics and account balancing?
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>>389287640
the point hes trying to make is that people have these problems. the reasons for these problems doesnt matter because that goes beyond the scope of your soc 101 class.

we all know youre super smart but you should probably stop and listen to what other people say for about 1.5 seconds before you make decisions
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>>389289182
Just noticed that due to website's terrible padding it lost my balance in the corner. Here, to prove that I don't have any root canals to be done and shit. Clean 100% playthrough.
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My co-worker and his wife are living the DINK life (dual-income-no-kids) and they make it sound amazing. They have a nice home, go on vacations every month, travel the world and shit
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>>389289689
fug
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>>389289519
when it's CURRENT YEAR and the internet exists, yes you do, you miserable old puttock.
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>NEETs think this game is actually accurate

When the fuck did I own a dog? When the fuck do I only have THREE jobs to pick from? Why do I have a fucking child?

The """game""" tries to prove a point but hits you with bills and shit that make no sense and could easily be avoided IRL.

Only complete retard with no sense of self/money management end up like this. Just get a high school degree, work a job, and don't have children till you are ready. I'm half certain this game is just trying to make us feel bad for single moms in hopes that we go marry them and support "muh wife's child"
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this isnt hard at all
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>>389289582
Yes you've achieved "Basic Retard" status in life it's very easy we know.
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>>389289561
But anon, you can't always predict what's going to happen over the course of a month!
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>>389289582
>Rent is $225
Where do you live m8
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>>389289645
The only question you've asked is if someone was 50 years old the first time they went to the library
Why don't you ask less stupid questions?
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No option to leave this apartment
Closed this bullshittery
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>>389283083
kek, I agree, I literally had to fill out a inch of paperwork to just land a temporary job as a dishwasher while I'm at college and I'm extremely lucky to have it.
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>>389289671
>Make a budget so you can be in the shoes of these poor, defenseless people that need YOUR MONEY right now to survive :,(
>Can I make realistic good decisions in their life for once so that they can actually climb out of the hole they're in on their own?
>PFFF NO! YOU NEED TO STOP AND LISTEN TO WHAT I'M SAYING!
Yeah, no.
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>>389289645
I didn't answer the question because it wasn't addressed to me. I replied because your point doesn't make any sense; why exactly do you think it's impossible to be concerned with learning good spending habits below the age of 40?
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>>389288360
>earn a define amount of money
>check what you need to survive
>you can check your service sheet, so you'll know real fast you can cut off electricity and water bill to almost nothing by just not using them
>you can even find buckets everywhere and wash your stuff with rainwater
>you don't even need silverware, just find a food tray
>don't be a terminal retard and be very meticulous to not break anything

I bet you don't even turn off these at night, it's literally 8 hours of money leaking down the drain
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>Root canal
BRUSH YOUR TEETH
DON'T DRINK SODA
IT'S NOT THAT HARD
FUCK THIS STUPID GAME
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>>389276916
>Poor people are stupid and make bad decisions so you should feel bad for them and give them money to make even more bad decisions
Wow it really made me think
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>Root canal

Pulling a tooth is like $80, root canal is like $900 and much more painful
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>>389289582
>been NEET on and off for three years
>just got a new job, which if I maintain, I'll be in a similarly comfortable position with more than £500 a month to spend on any shit I want
>but there isn't shit I want and only having like 4 or 5 hours of "do I want" time for 5 days a week feels like absolute shit
I'm not sure how to feel
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>>389289976
Really? Hmm, odd. Lemme look at my post again.
>"How old were you when you did that?"
Wow. Hmm. Seems like I did ask a question which you still haven't answered. Really making my noodle cook here, my brother.

>>389290014
The entire point of his argument is "you don't need your parents to teach you good spending habits at a young age because I went to a library and checked out a book once", which implies he learned financial accounting at age 12, instead of as an adult.
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>>389290073
Don't drink soda ever? Like never ever again forever?
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>>389290146
Povertyfag here, you'd have to be sub-paint chip eater level of retarded to get in the situation the game puts you in.
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>>389290198
might as well put it in the bank you never know what will happen
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>>389289671
There's literally a line in the assignment that says "most people assume poor people could live on minimum wage IF THEY TRIED HARD ENOUGH". I'm positive I could meet the budget with money to spare if I wasn't hampered with arbitrary restrictions on what I can/can't do, I.E. TRYING REALLY HARD to dig myself out of the hole I've been placed in. What I'm effectively being told is "you're in this shitty situation and you're not allowed to try to get out". That's not a way to make me learn about the plights of the poor, that's a way to piss me off.
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>started work at a fortune 500 company
>threw some of my paycheck into the employee stock program
>stock grows 200% since purchase by the time selling period comes around

is this how rich people keep getting richer? It looks like even after capital gains is calculated in, I still just got thousands of dollars for free
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>>389290221
I know you're memeing but people like this actually exist
>What do you mean a diet means I have to eat healthy the rest of my life?
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Game is retarded. Just pulls stuff on you that you didn't even know you had. This was only made to make us feel bad for shitty single moms with bad life skills. It only served to make me hate them more, and in the end it just tries to make you donate money so they can squander it like they have the rest of their life.
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>>389290214
>Which implies he learned financial account at age 12
Nobody implied that except you, autist
You said that in response to someone saying that knowing how to save money isn't something a parent has to teach you, which would be obvious if you knew what a fucking piggy bank was, something that every 4 year old has
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>>389290154
I had a root canal and didn't feel shit.
Thanks drugs.
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>>389290221
you know, I actually grew up hating soda
now I'm an adult and beer is the only carbonated thing I enjoy drinking, soda just seems kind of gross to me
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>boss is trying a new way to even out wages
>can choose new way or stick with old way
>stick with old way
>pay gets cut in half
>go with new way
>pay gets cut in 1/4th
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>>389290312
Basically

To be fair most poor people probably don't know that keeping non-emergency cash savings is a bad idea
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>>389285472
Yeah anon but we pay higher tax rates and national insurance, plus our healthcare is absolutely getting raped by the government and Europe right now.
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>>389290287
Yeah, but then I'm just getting no short term happiness out of spending half my waking life working. Sure, yeah, I'm saving up for later, but that doesn't make now any less painful to get through the day.

It would probably help if my life had more "purpose", but I've never had "purpose" before and I like it like that.
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>>389289807
if it's so easy, why doesn't everyone do it?
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>>389290426
>Nobody implied that except you, autist

>Guy talks about how his parents taught him the good value of the dollar
>Autist replies that "You're a faggot and you should have just used common sense"
>Someone even makes a sarcastic remark saying children aren't born with tax information in their head
>Autist replies again saying that "You can just go to a library, duh", implying that children born without this common sense are stupid and should just go to a library to research topics they're not interested in
>Double autist (you) gets butthurt when he's called out on that.
lol. I think we're done here.
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>>389290073
I drank 4 sodas a day during one summer and when I went to the dentist they couldn't tell I had been drinking soda at all
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>>389290312
Yeah basically. My company matches my investments so each paycheck I get a couple hundred dollars for free.
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>>389276916
Over the span of two weeks, the following happened:
>pet got sick
>sharp chest pains
>gas was siphoned
>kid went to a birthday party
>rent was hiked

This "person" has the most eventful life I've ever seen. It makes more sense on an accelerated timeline, but the paychecks aren't accelerated so it's just completely retarded.
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>>389290328
I'm not memeing I just love soda.
>>389290474
I guess beer is a better substitute.
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>>389290495
Pretty much this. There's basically no point in keeping more than 100$ on hand. I just recently started putting portions of my savings into ETFs at the end of June, and that money which had recently been just sitting in my bank doing nothing has already grown 5% + I get a few bucks in dividends every quarter. In this economy it is literally free money
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>>389287527
>tfw I don't have any student debts because education is tax funded
>tfw my entire fucking living is tax funded
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>>389290312
Yes, because the stock market grows by an average of like 11% every year
It flabbergasts me how many people I know who are sitting on thousands of dollars in savings accounts and haven't ever bothered to put even $100 into stocks or bonds or even fucking bitcoins
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>>389290306
youre the most people that is talked about in the assignment

this leads me to believe youve completely missed the point of the lesson
>>
Holy shit, i remember this from YEARS ago. IT was so much more manageable too.
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>get into a car accident
>my options are to pay the damage or drive away
why can't i have my insurance pay for it and accept the higher premium? my current insurance has accident forgiveness so...
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Why do people have children?
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>>389290603
Oh okay, so you were being sarcastic in your original retarded post about children not being born with tax information
What a fool I was for not seeing through your clever ruse of pretending to be a fucking mongoloid
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>>389290073
It's addicting man.
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>>389291043
Because sex feels best when you have the pleasure of coming inside her.
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>>389291087
That wasn't my post, mongoloid, but it's still relevant to the chain.
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>made it to end of month with $800

Feels good to have a big white male brain
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>Being made fun of for free lunches
What kind of shitty ass school is this kid going to?
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>>389276916
Guess the moral of the story is DON'T HAVE A FUCKING KID AND A DOG AND A CREDIT CARD IF YOU CAN'T FUCKING AFFORD IT.
I get that this is supposed to make you feel bad into donating, but seriously, everything could have been avoided if you LIVED WITHIN YOUR MEANS.

Shit like this makes me so fucking angry, coming from a low income house this is not even remotely realistic. You don't get a cellphone, you don't have a pet, and you understand if your parents can't provide you with everything. There are always jobs out there not just 3.
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>>389291467
Hint: It's probably not majority white
>>
basically the plot of idiocracy
smart people will choose not to have kids, because they can't afford it
meanwhile, retards will just keep cumming inside and popping out kids
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>>389290221
It is disgusting, after a month of not drinking it it'll make you feel like throwing up after taking a swig of some, shits toxic man.
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>>389291592
Wouldn't majority non-white mean other kids are more likely to also have free lunch?
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>>389278017
Shut the fuck up libcuck. Not everyone had the choice to grow up as slowly as you. Get a job and get shit done, faggot.
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>>389291630
I don't know why it's so hard to buy a dildo.
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>>389276916
Why do i have a kid but no wife?
Is this aimed to women?
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>>389290589
Because it leads to a boring, repetitive, pointless existence
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>>389290782
>>389290615
>>389290312
>>389290495
>>389290735
problem is a lot of those programs are bundled with toxic assets, and they're exactly the same shit that caused the last economic crisis, because they literally changed nothing and just bailed out the stupid practices. Sure, ride it while you can but keep one ear on the ground and be ready to withdrawal everything when the bubble pops again.
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Get fucked, poor financial planners.
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I cant even find a job.

Shitty jobs say im overqualified and proper jobs say I am not qualified enough.
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>>389291663
yes, but they can bully someone
this is one of the true things in this trash, kids are cruel jack and if they can gang up on one kid they will
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>hit all of the "nah i'll worry about it later options"
>nothing bad ever happens
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>>389291818
Are you assuming your player's character gender?
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>This shit comes up
Wheres the "take it up with the law" option?
Like. It's illegal. That's that. Why are my options to be a bitch.
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>>389291915
So basically just buy stock and bitcoin itself instead of investing in investment firms which are all, without exception, scams for old white people who don't want to manage their own money?
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>>389292018
I agree, and I didn't even get bullied in school, but I saw plenty Of The poorer kids or shy kids consistently be dragged through hell by cancerous people.
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>>389276916
>being poor
>having a child
I don't have a reaction image that can properly represent my rage and disdain towards people who do this and expect even a modicum of sympathy.
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>>389292195
forgot image
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>>389291915
I mean if you're investing in stock you're not technically directly holding any mortgage backed securities, but you're right that if another major recession hits you'll lose a lot of your savings.

Now if you're like ~20-30 like most of the faggots here that's no big deal cause you're not retiring for another thirty years but it can be rough if you need that money.
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>>389292467
Just click ask a friend for help. It's the ultimate cheating button. Like, it doesn't even ask you to return the money you apparently took from friend in this particular event.
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>>389292195
Not enough money for a lawyer I guess.
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>Know friend who was poor
>had a kid in college
>his family told him to GTFO
>he know owns a brewery, is finishing college this year, and has is own fucking house
>All while taking damn good care of his son

Poverty is a meme. Work harder and make good choices and you can overcome any and all bad choices you've made in your life.
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>>389292467

But anon, you're an "immigrant," you cant utilize the law in this scenario!
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>>389292620
I tried to put my character in the worst spot ever where he's also a cunt and has no friends.
>>389292626
Fuck that. The threat of a lawsuit is more than enough. Hell where's the "break my landlord's kneecaps" option while I'm at it. There was an option to break the law and keep driving after fucking up someone's car? Why not threaten and gamble it all. I'm already a shit dad, if I get tossed in Jail my kid can have a decent life without me.
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>Take on extra expenses like having a car, having a kid, etc.
>Wooooooooooow nobody told me having expenses was expensive
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>>389292664
So he was still living with his patents while his own child was a college, and that was the point when his parents forced him to move out?
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>>389281246
Because people in real life with kids can't choose to get rid of them. It was a dumb choise to have kids, if it even was a choice for them, but that doesn't fix the present. This is their current situation. Saying "But you having kids was dumb!" doesn't fix the current situation. That's the point that is trying to be made. Are they ignorant and dumb? yeah. Does saying that fix anything?
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>>389292987
Meant highschool. Was trying to say was about to go to college but had a kid. My bad.
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>>389281562
So? yeah, they're retards, and they're a lot of people. Calling them retards doesn't magically solve the problem.
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>>389293040
Sure you can. Adoption.
Give them the opportunity to have a far better life than your broke ass can give them.
I swear some people can't even figure out that being a good parent sometimes means not even being the parent.
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>>389293040
>Because people in real life with kids can't choose to get rid of them.
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>>389293040
you can put your kid up for adoption as long as they aren't 18
a dick move, but very legal
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>>389281603
So you had a decent education. The people in the game's situation didn't.
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Life is hard when you're a single dad with no education, a mountain of debt despite owning nothing and can barely life 20 pounds.

Who the fuck made this shit.
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>>389293187
Why use a coat hanger when you can just wrap your dick in syran wrap?
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This is without borrowing money and doing the "right" thing (aka going to kid's play, owning up to breaking shit, etc).
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>See how hard it is to be poor and forced to make these choices!
>(After already having made loads of bad choices up to this point that we don't let you have any input as a player on)

>Ask a friend for help
>Popup asking to log into fuckbook
>just close it
>get the benefits of it anyway

Also
>Break Vase
>Hide evidence
>Co-worker blamed
>Don't speak up, she gets fired with 2 kids to support
DevilishPepe.jpg
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>>389292231
>>389292498
bitcoin is relatively safer than a lot of funds and bonds, but stocks are still tied to companies that may be holding a lot of these fiat securities that can bite them at a moments notice. as for retirement, good luck chuck, we can't keep the system afloat as it is now, snowball's chance in hell it'll still be around when we're too invalid to work.
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>that line about low income people being overweight
Fuck off if you can afford being fat you can afford living
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>>389283317
Do you live under a rock? How long do you think it takes until anything gets done legally? Meanwhile, the only one getting fucked by whatever breaks down is you.
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>>389293487
Most cheap food that tastes good is bad for you
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>>389293536
>B-BUT YOU CAN EAT RICE AND BEANS EVERY DAY FOR TWO NICKELS AND A BUTTON
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>>389276916
So it assumes I have a child when I'm not only gay, but also a minority. What a good website! Ignore the fact that I actually graduated highschool and just give me low tier jobs I'd only find on craigslist. This site just assumes that someone isn't willing to take two bus routes to their job for a higher salary.

Check yourself/10, this site is racist and homophobic.
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>>389293536
Homemade food is cheapest anon
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>>389293536
>what are fruits and vegetables
>what is growing your own food
>what is buying ingredients and making your own meals instead of buying overpriced prepackaged shit that's unhealthy
Most people that are poor aren't good at making decisions, which is why they end up in such poor health.
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>>389293536
You can also eat less of it. You'll be unhealthy either way because you're eating garbage, but that's no excuse to eat more of it and add being fat to your health concerns.
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>>389292231
>bitcoin
>only backed by stupid people's will to buy it
>going to last
Get some gold money my man.
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>>389293697
I like the part where they imply that if you're poor you suddenly cannot count anymore, losing the ability to keep track of your calories ingested. They can still get that """cheap""" unhealthy good tasting food without being fucking obese.
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>>389293178
There is no way someone who ended up in this situation has the mental capacity to comprehend that the best thing he can do for his kid is to put him up for adoption. With that kind of intelligence, which seem obvious to us, he woudn't be in this situation.
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>>389293461
>bitcoin is relatively safer than a lot of funds and bonds
I don't buy it, bitcoin's value is still incredibly speculative.

But hey, if you've probably made a great return from it if you got in early.
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>>389293187
Take into account that religion is the strongest on the poorest places, add that to being completely ignorant about finances, and abortion isn't even an option to consider.
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>>389293697
>i live in a tenement and im hungry now but hold on lemme wait 3 months for this apple to grow ima eat so good
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>>389293324
Someone who wanted to demonstrate that life is hard when you're a single dad with no education, a mountain of debt despite owning nothing and can barely life 20 pounds.
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>>389288360
>go to bank
>"I'd like to start a checking account"
>go to google
>"How to do taxes"
Anon I'm sorry you need someone to write out in crayon a list of steps to do anything in your life, it must be difficult with such a learning disability.
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>>389276916
made it through the month with 600 dollars because I avoided unnecessary spending and made the right choices
didn't even neglect my child. 9 bucks an hour is enough fuck off americans with your first world problems
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>your landlord found you have a pet!
Who the fuck knowingly rents an apartment with a no pets policy then brings a pet? Am I playing as a nigger?
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>>389276916
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>>389293993
You can take them to foster home, or does it cost extra in burgerland
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>>389290782
Why would you put money into bitcoins if you can't get it back ?
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>>389279356
Nu males have no muscle, so they'd imagine that it's a huge ordeal for everyone else like it is for them.
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>>389294076
That's one option I listed, and still good for saving long term. Short term, buying shit from the cheapest local grocery store is still valid, as long as your purchases are smart. Being poor is hard, but gets better the smarter you are.

t. grew up in poverty, now making $48k annually
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>>389293413
People in this situation don't get any input either. They can't go back in time and undo their choices.
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>>389294136
>playspent.org
You're playing as some dude who was retarded enough to knock up a girl during highschool. So, it's a coinflip. Either nigger or Appalachian trash, Nigger is the better choice.
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I don't get this, it told me to help out at some american charity but I'm not even american.
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>>389289671
>>389290797
This. Your sociology professor is actually extremely conservative and wants you to hate poor people. Don't you see?
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>>389293873
Huh. That's weird. Weren't those goalposts over there just a moment ago?
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>>389294293
It can't be black in this case, or else they'd be getting a bunch of gibs and a free phone.
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>>389294235
>local grocery store is a 30 min walk because you live in the ghetto

shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiet
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>>389294172
You can buy them at stock exchange and get $ whenever u want?
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Are you fucking kidding me ?

I work in a fucking restaurant, if I want a fucking salad I just ask the cook to make me one.
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>>389294261
They don't need to go back in time to reverse completely retarded decisions like keeping a car you can't afford instead of just selling it and using public transportation like people in all walks of life, including people better off than them do.
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>>389294391
Get a bike
or steal it you nigger
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>>389293487
Poor people eat almost exclusively carbohidrates and no variety on their diet because its the cheapest food and satiates hunger, thats why they're fat. They obviously are completely ignorant nutrition wise, but its not like they're fat from eating a lot of expensive food. They're fat because they eat noodles everyday.
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>>389294494
>i dont have money for food or housing but lemme go buy a bike rq
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>>389294391
>>389294494
>only a 30 minute walk
>implying that's long
I seriously hope this is bait
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>it's a "class traitors shit on the poor" episode
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>>389294261
So they shouldn't have to take responsibility for their choices? Should the government have to come along fix everybody's mistakes? Also there's a lot of things in the "game" that would have easy immediate fixes like selling the car and just taking the bus.
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>>389293661
No, it doesn't get cheaper/easier than just noodles.
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I grew up in constant poverty and this is beyond inaccurate.
>live 3 seconds from work
>required to buy an expensive car with an absurdly expensive car payment
>bills are completely insane
>have a kid and a dog and all this extra shit beyond my control
Unless you live in a fucking NYC skyline condo, you can live on $200 a month, which if you make minimum wage is about four times less than you make.
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>>389294616
do you wanna walk 30 min in the ghetto carrying some groceries?
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>>389294636
>But in general, these lines are vertical
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>>389294795
And?
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>>389293697
Do you seriously think poor people have money to spend on food diversity that produces very little hunger saciety, such as veggies and fruits, let alone have time to prepare and cook those meals? And don't even get me started on growing your own food. Being poor, meals don't get much better than either rice or noodles.
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>>389294636
I wonder who could be behind this post...
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>>389287527
>didn't go to college
>not completely retarded/lazy so I worked hard and got a good job with good money
>make more than 80% of college students could ever hope for
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>>389276916
>Have to buy shoes for some rat-spawn I have
>100 or 10 dollaree-doos

Who the fuck spends 100 dollars on shoes
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>>389294859
Why would the jews, who control everythiing, want those they're in charge of to rise up and overthrow their masters, who are jews?
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Why do I have a dog if I am poor?
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>>389290797
"IF THEY TRIED HARD ENOUGH" is forbidden in the assignment. shutup faggot
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>>389293721
Poor people buy the cheapest and easiest food to cook, such as rice. Have you ever tried having a meal of only rice? Do you know how much you need to eat to actually satiate your hunger? Now try that as a living style, and add being completely ignorant regarding nutrition, and you'll end up obese and fat.
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>>389294893
You forgot this part anon
>80% of gender studies college students could ever hope for
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>>389295068
You can live off of hamburger/chicken, broccoli, rice, and a multivitamin for less than $15 a week
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>be a super nice guy
>employees talk shit behind my back
>also drive like a fucking retard and destroy some guys car

yeah this simulator is designed for idiots
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>>389294089
Go to google? Do you even poor people? You tell them that and they think google is a store or a street name. Do you think they even know how to use computers?
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>>389294293
Not only that, but you have a dog for some god-awful reason, a worthless degree, and an expensive ass car. With a shit ton of debt.
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>>389294942
>Having expensive shoes is important. Kids get bullied when they don't have $100 shoes
>Your kid gets invited to a birthday party but he NEEDS to bring a present.
>It's bad that you didn't go to the play because you had to make money!
>Uh oh your kid is getting bullied for getting free lunch and you should pay money for lunch just so he doesn't get bullied or he'll refuse to eat lunch!
This fucking shit. 100% don't feel bad for breaking that little fucker's piggy bank.
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>>389289561
>Have a college degree somehow but don't have a job with that degree for some fucking reason
>implying a college degree guarantees you a job in that field
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>>389294362
What?
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>>389294942
this lmao who buys shoes
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>>389295068
You cant get fat solely from rice, unless you are some soulless monster eating 2 kg of it everyday
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I do appreciate the game pointing out how awful obamacare is
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>>389287527
You ever notice that people outside of America are just obsessed with America? Like, instead of saying "I'm sure happy to be in [country]" they always say "I'm sure happy I'm not in America". No Yuropoors seem to like their countries, just constant butthurt about how they totally don't actually want to be in the US.
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>Landlord raising rent without warning, chest pains, root canal, a speeding ticket, a broken car, a family member passes away, and a mother needing medicine she can't pay for all in the same month
>Single parent
>Gets caught with a fucking pet
>Why the fuck would you even think you could afford a pet

This is retarded.
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>>389295447
Obamacare isn't perfect, in fact it's pretty shit, but it's better than what we had before it
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>>389294473
I was talking about having kids. And no, every single poor person can't just give up their babies for adopotion, that doesn't solve the problem.
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>>389294942
Niggers.
The only people that live like this
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I don't understand why people live in poverty.
They offer layaway on shotguns so you can easily kill yourself for $50 down.
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>>389295230
Don't bother trying to explain to him, he's clearly never actually shopped and cooked on a budget. All he's doing is parroting what he's been told, absolutely sure in his imagination that he's correct, without ever bothering to actually check out prices and the knowledge that you can every so often catch a very good sale and stock up on things you can't normally buy much of.

You can tell since at first he immediately defaulted to ramen, probably making him some sort of "LOL POOR COLLEGE LIFE DUDE RAMEN EVERY DAY HAHA LIFE IS SUFFERING" chucklefuck.
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>>389295525
>but it's better than what we had before it
Is it?
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You can't buy rice and can only buy canned food.

Of course the game is fucked. If this going to be stupid, I am not eating shit for the month.
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>>389295298
Nigga they're poor because they spent all of their money on shitty cosmetics and smart phones. I know people without internet that know what Google is.
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>>389295447
>>389295525
>can't afford health insurance
>Don't worry, ObodO is here!
>still can't afford health insurance
>taxes increased
>have to pay a fine because you can't afford health insurance
So this... is the power of socialism...
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>>389295661
Yes
Are you telling me that being unable to get medical insurance because of a medical condition you have is ok?
That happened all the time before the ACA
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>>389295298
Actually a lot of poor people in my apartment building have iPhones/macbooks and I live in a shithole.
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>>389295661
It's better for everyone who was already dirt poor and on benefits. For lower middle class and middle class it's much worse, and for the rich it doesn't matter since those are plebeian problems.
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>>389289671
i spent the past 4 years living off less than $3000 a year (that's below minimum wage)
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>>389295373
If having a degree doesn't give you a leg up in getting at least a decent job in any field, you picked a shitty fucking degree.
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>>389294662
Im not saying that, but yeah, many people would argue that yes. The problem is there, and just telling these people to "take responsabilty" changes nothing. Something has to be done. Doing nothing is letting these people try to solve the problem themselves, and as you've seen they don't make the smartest choices, nor do they make for great parents. They may end up fixing their problems eventually, or killing themselves, or robbing you or doing anything that generates money for them. And some would argue that its actually beneficial for us to take care of them, rather than dealing with the consecuences of having them fucking up even further.
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>>389295525
Not only is Obamacare shit but it also ruined any chance of fixing healthcare

We'll be stuck with this shit for another 50 years`
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>>389295761
Are you somehow misunderstanding the intent of insurance or are you just portraying a caricature? You don't get house insurance the moment your house catches on fire, you have it beforehand. You don't get health insurance the moment you have an actual sickness, you have it before. Insurance is not a fucking charity, it's a business based on risk analysis.
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>Pay for the most expensive insurance
>It doesn't cover dental
I'm sorry, what?
What's even the point of buying it then?
Why the fuck doesn't the game tell me details of anything, I mean when I would be considering buying this shit irl I would certainly ask questnios about what does it cover.
Also, my boss instantly fired me beacuse he magically knew that I dared to ONLY TALK to a guy that was part of workers' union.
There are so many retarded things about this.
>Can't wash my clothes in a fucking sink and just fucking hang them somewhere to dry them
>Can't tell the kid to shut the fuck up and just eat the goddamn free food since even if he stops the bullies will still bully him no matter what
>Can't threaten your landlord with legal action for raising rent, your only option is acting like a bitch
>Once your boss fires you FOR FUCKING TALKING WITH A RANDOM STRANGER you can't look for a new job for some fucking reason
Also it's not poverty simulator it's a fucking retard simulator.
>Buy expensive car
>Study some useless shit when you have to money
>HAVE A FUCKING KID AS A SINGLE PARENT BEFORE EVEN HAVING A STABLE INCOME
If anything this game made me hate poor people, it's not my fault they fucked up their own life (I'm obviously talking about people like the one you play as not poor people that were actually fucked by life).
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>>389295957
You mean like the republican """plan""" that was just a tax cut for the rich?
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>>389295661
It depends on how you view health insurance.

If you view it as a right that everyone should have, then it's a step in the right direction as it decreased the number of uninsured.

If you view it as a product that should be sold on an open market, then it's bad cause it lead to a rise in premiums and a distortion in the marker.
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>>389295761
>Are you telling me that being unable to get medical insurance because of a medical condition you have is ok?
Yes. The whole point of insurance is that you get it when you are health you insure that you have something to help in case things go tits up. Yeah it sucks with people born with aids or whatever and they should get help somehow through charity or maybe some government thing but the only way a insurance system can maintain itself is if the majority of people paying into it don't actually have to use it.
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>>389284819
Jew York planet
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>>389295996
>Insurance is not a fucking charity, it's a business based on risk analysis.
And this is why capitalism is shit
Why does the decision of whether someone lives or dies lie with people who are profiting off it?
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>>389295948
>Something has to be done.

So your argument is that I should pay for their shitty lifestyle choices or else they will chimp out and rob me? The past person who tried to do that got a bullet for his troubles.
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>>389287092
>you can take buses
Just shove the clothes in a backpack or dufflebag and ride the bus. You're poor, you don't get to be haughty
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>>389295230
Meat is very expensive, a luxury for poor people. keep in mind that you'd be buying food for you and your kids. That extra dollar per plate adds up.
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>>389285396
Obamacare "insurance" probably doesn't include dental, and of course minimum wage jobs don't give benefits.
For all the bullshit in this propaganda, those are accurate
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>>389295996
Why does that justify denying a person healthcare or putting them in crippling debt?
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>dude people are poor because they're lazy or stupid lmao
Then why are there people working 2 or 3 jobs and barely making ends meet, with no savings so if something happens they're fucked
This "shit on the poor, idolize the rich" is a literal fucking meme drilled into your head by the elite to keep you divided
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>>389296056
unironically we would've been better off letting the issue get worse just to motivate everyone to move to single player

obongocare is a shitty bandaid that only servers to delay the inevitable
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Am I a nigger for this?
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>>389296405
>being an accelerationist
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>>389287705
>most of my brand trainers were good quality hand me downs from siblings or friends or I bought it with my own money.
No fucking parent relies on brands unless it's birthdays, foreign counterfeits or Christmas
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>>389287730
Snitches get Stitches faggot
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>>389295658
Where would you store meat to stock on? On your imaginary freezer? Where in the ghetto exactly do you catch these sales? College, a poor person, seriously? You must be confusing low-income or low-middle class with actual poverty. Poor people are lucky if they know how to read and write.
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>>389296468
>not being one
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>>389296405
>singlepayer
Fuck off to your choice of socialist hellholes, faggot.
Don't ruin the US
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>>389296573
Tey ried ta on me at school once.

Eveyone ended up being snitches.
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>>389296134
>the decision of whether someone lives or dies
Again, that isn't what insurance is. Insurance is simply a business that attempts to utilize risk management in order to collect payments from people, while providing money as per the contract to other people. They are not doctors or surgeons or anything, they are simply money makers and data analysts.

>>389296361
They are not denying that person healthcare, they are denying a person coming up to them and asking for free money with no payback. A company accepting someone that they would immediately have to spend thousands on to cover would be the height of idiocy, when the company exists in the first place to protect against the potential for x, not people who already had x happen.
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>>389293156
Their problem. Here's the thing about retards, you can solve their problems but you can't stop them from being retards who will get themselves into more problems, or the same problem again.
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>>389296651
>single payer healthcare ruins countries
It doesn't
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>>389296367
>Then why are there people working 2 or 3 jobs and barely making ends meet, with no savings so if something happens they're fucked
>This "shit on the poor, idolize the rich" is a literal fucking meme drilled into your head by the elite to keep you divided
We aren't talking about poor people in general. We are talking about the retard in the game who has a dog and an expensive car despite only having 1000 bucks to his name and a kid. The game doesn't even let you work 2-3 jobs.
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>>389296171
That is another valid choice for some people, too. Killing them. Not even being sarcastic, that is doing something with them too.
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>>389296367
Because they made/make poor life decisions that have caused their expenses to become greater than their income.
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>>389296219
you are a faggot.
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SIXTY DOLLARS A MONTH FOR INTERNET ?

What the fuck is this ?
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>>389296367
Scandinavian countries are doing great
And they are more racially pure than US too
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>entitled white people telling the underclass it's their fault they're poor

This thread is amazing. So this is what privilege looks like.
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>>389296742
So do you think that everyone can be wealthy or at least comfortable?
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>>389296845
>intentionally bringing a pet into your no-pet apartments and getting in trouble for it
WTF WHITE PEOPLE
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>>389296845
How the fuck do you manage to become a single parent, no work skills, both your boss and landowner being assholes, and everything going wrong all the time?
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>>389296830
Meant to quote that faggot
>>389296651
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>>389296845
Buzzwords aside, you're absolutely right
The elite have cuckservatives by their fucking neurons, turning them against themselves rather than the cause of the real problem
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>>389296367

My guess is it's a mixture of people being alienated by the self-flagellating left and being raised to believe in a system that's inherently broken.

>We live in a meritocracy, if people are poor or homeless it's because of something they did!

Meanwhile there's barely any social safety net if some catastrophic act of God descends on you and businesses are designed around exploiting you and/or other people. A colleague of mine got a cerebrospinal leak 3 months into her position - totally random, caused by nothing other than her body randomly saying fuck you. If she was in America she'd be utterly fucked. In the UK, she got 2 months off, completely free medical care and went right back to contributing to society.
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>>389296854
>Wealthy
No
>Comfortable
Yes
>Surviving
If you can't feed yourself and put a roof over your head in any Western society, you are a grade A retard.
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>>389276916
> Gets a job
> Fired for trying to start a union
> Doesn't let me get another job

Fuck this game OP.
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>>389296909
Did you even read the intro?
You lost your job and have to move to an apartment, meaning you already had a pet
Apartments that are pet friendly charge ridiculous deposits for them and are less common anyway
What, should everyone who gets fucked over like that just give their beloved companions to the pound to probably die?
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>>389296931
>people rag on a shitty game with prices and events that are not at all based on reality which is also internally inconsistent
>which also features the most retarded decisions you could possibly make
The elite must be responsible for this
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>>389296931
t. fantasy dweller
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>>389296830
>great
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_grenade_attacks_in_Sweden
You've also conveniently forgotten the privatization that's happened in Scandinavian countries.
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>>389297053
>I'm apparently super fucking poor and have a degree which I likely have to pay back loans for
>better get a pet
BRILLIANT
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FUCKING DROPPED
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>spill bleach on my shirt
>get a job strike for it

>>389296845
Yeah dude, it's the man keeping us down. Justice for trayvon he dindu nuffin
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>>389297053
Yep
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>>389297053
>What, should everyone who gets fucked over like that just give their beloved companions to the pound to probably die?

Yes. It's your pet, or your kid. You can have one or the other, not both.

You have to make hard decisions in life. Grow up.
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>>389295447
>>389295525
kind of this, but as opposed to being denied for a 'pre existing condition' example given - fucking existing is still a step up, if only an expensive one.

>>389295739
>>389295957
and you act like the right didn't try to sabotage the legislation at every step of the process, just so they can 'pass' a shitty piece of filth only to turn it around when Trump came into office so they can demonize universal healthcare for another 2 generations.

>>389296651
>>389296405
>implying any country's economy befits from having large amounts of its populace too sick/injured to work and only drain on social services and are actively preyed on to acquire crippling debt that will keep them miserable longer than if you had just treated them and put them back into the market.

healthcare and good education make a great nation, by privatizing your essentially treating them like a bad project, just cut them off and condemn them, but because they're humans with rights you just get leeches that do nothing, because you can at best hope they die from their illness/injury.
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>>389296683
>They are not denying that person healthcare

But when just about every hospital doesn't treat patients who want to see a doctor, who don't have insurance, they pretty much are. Only in the case of going to the emergency room will they see you, but have you leave in thousands of dollars in debt.
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>>389297134
Not an argument
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>>389297172
Poor people can't afford salads, Anon. Not everyone can scoff at $6.
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>>389296845
>fuck without a condom (you can get for free)
>have kids
>smoke weed all day (costs money)
>play video games all day (costs money)
>no skills, barely fit to flip a burger

>REEEEEEEEEEEE WHY AM I POOR REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>389296845
>bringing race into the discussion
poor as dirt white guy here
my family is this way because my parents were incapable of making good decisions and were drug addicts when myself and my brothers were growing up
i also live in a tiny town with no opportunity and as you can imagine they utterly failed to raise me

you're right that people will take any opportunity to shit on the poor but in my experience a lot of poor people are this way simply because they cannot help but make bad decisions
there are those who are victims of circumstance (like myself) but i've met so many homeless/vagrants who are hard drug users and don't seem to care about where it's taken them
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>>389297492
>no option to just not eat
WHY IS THE MAAAAN KEEPIN ME DOWN??
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>>389295506
No, I don't.
>why are people bringing up America when talking about student loans
Gee, I don't know, maybe because they don't know if any other countries even have them and if they do they're certainly not as shit as the american ones
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>>389297172
>He can't even skip lunch

There was a time back when I was in college where I couldn't afford a lunch for like 3 months. Going one day without lunch isn't going to kill you.
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>>389276916
>click the $500 car payment after a couple weeks of doing decently to see if it gives the option to pay it off
>drains my $300 and gives an instant game over
woooooooow
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>>389297427
>implying your post was an argument and not just an insane assertion
i have a picture for you
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>>389284968
Untrue. I paid bond as 1m rent and the first month in advanve, that was it. This is absolutely standard.
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>>389276916
so, on a scale of 1-10, one being fucking bullshit and 10 being pretty accurate, how accurate is this "game?"
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>>389297689
Dude if you're that obsessed with us just move here.
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>>389297594
>lmao you fag just don't satisfy your biological needs
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>>389297843
1
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>>389295373
>t. photography major
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>>389297843
6
There's not enough freedom but the point is to show you that being poor is fucking expensive
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>>389297492
What kind of fucking salad costs more than 1 buck?
Wait, is this actually true in America?
Oh my, lol
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>>389287179
I once had to live off rice for like three months. I'd throw in some spices to make a kind of rice curry thing to try and convince myself it wasn't just rice. Even now I've got my own place and a good job I still consider a block of store-brand cheese to be a luxury. And these niggers is paying three whole dollars just for tomatoes while crying about being poor?
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>>389297589
In ideal world we wouldnt blame anyone since shit's deterministic, but god damn it was annoying when i was poorfag and saw the druggies my tax money was going everyday
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Random survey, pay no mind
http://www.strawpoll.me/13863004
http://www.strawpoll.me/13863004
http://www.strawpoll.me/13863004
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How is it that a shitty ad game designed for you to give them money spark this discussion?
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>>389276916
was i suppose to lose
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>>389294170
And then they get adopted by a lesbian couple. And then you remember you're in Cali. And then you have to pay double alimony.
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>>389297721
especially since apparantly you're going fat cause poor food is unhealthy

if you're scarfing 1000 calorie big macs for breakfast and lunch you shouldn't be eating lunch anyways
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>>389297906
>It is absolutely impossible for me to survive without eating three full square meals every single day.

No wonder you are fucking poor if you have that little self control.
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>>389298226
I definitely understand that frustration when the first of the month comes and I watch all the addicts with SSI get together to have a little party.
They're always completely broke a couple days later, too.
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>>389291912
Whereas having three kids and living on foodstamps is just so damn avant-garde.
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>Name brand shoes are important
wow they really do assume you're a nigger
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>>389297876
Wow, what a great post, too bad you didn't even read mine, so to reiterate.
We're talking about student loans. You know other places that have them? Because I and a lot of people don't.
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>>389298261
>overwhelming majority of this thread is basement dwellers and underage
Pottery
Of course you fags don't know shit about actually making it on your own
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>>389298476
also
>30 dollars for fucking laundry day
where do they come up with these numbers? does this person do laundry 4 times a year?
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>>389298226
>shit's deterministic

copenhagen interpretation fuck poor people lmao
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>>389296845
>entitled white people telling the underclass it's not their fault they're poor

This game is amazing. So this is what being a cocksucker looks like.
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>>389298261
>people who don't have to take care of themselves thinking they can talk shit about people who are struggling
P R I V I L E G E
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>>389291673
? Did you even read his post he's bashing them not one of them
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>>389298493
I don't. Not really sure what the deal is. I'm in the US and I don't have student loans, so obviously they're avoidable here.
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>>389298672
For many people, it isn't their fault at all
The way the system works is that upward mobility is very hard
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>>389276916
The fuck is this bullshit?
Couple faggots gossping behind my back, I tell them to knock it off and they somehow get me fired?
Where the fuck does this faggot work at? Google?
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>>389298261
O I AM LAFFIN
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>>389298261

Does living with my wife count as living "on my own"? If not, there's no option for me to choose.
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>lasted with $82 left
>only donated plasma, didn't borrow, and paid all the bills
Eh
I feel like Americans spend too much on stupid shit.
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>>389298568
>>389298674
i've lived on my own for years, some of it in poverty.

if you can't manage your finances, you're either the pinnacle of misfortune or your garbage.
most people aren't cursed with bad luck
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>>389299029
Yes, you're paying for yourself without non-romantic cohabitants
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>>389298920
Thing is most people in this thread are talking about the game's example, and in the game's example it entirely is the bitch's fault.
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>>389298656
Fuck off Bohr no one remembers you
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You faggots are the reason we're not going to have FALC
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>this thread
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>>389276916
Just like all these kind of simulators they bombard you with
>oh no! you suddenly got cancer and 36 other diseases, you gotta pay!
>oh no! your landlord is the worst asshole of the world and raised your rent 3 times! and you can only pay or leave because you can't drag his ass to the court because reasons
>oh no! your kid(s) and pet(s) get sick and ask you for all kind of shit 58 times or they will kill themselves!
>oh no! you gotta pay your loans, insurances, taxes all the same day!
It just doesn't work like this. Mainly the first, I got tooth ache + heart disease in a single month while in real life I didn't require medical attention since at least 6 years
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woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow, this really fires my neutrinos
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>>389276916
So, even in the worst possible scenario with all of this shit happening in a single month, still made it through with $253 to spare, $225 of which goes to pay back a friend for their help.

ez
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>>389299358
fixed
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>>389282495
how the fuck does a prescription for anti-depressants cost more than talking to a therapist
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>>389299358
You ok there anon? you looking a little anorexic.
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>>389299421
>unironic fucking ancaps
oh lawd
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>>389297589
>poor as dirt white guy here
I'm sorry about your circumstances. But being poor does not absolve you of white privilege.
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>>389299423
You can quit being a little bitch for free lol
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>>389276916
>live in the city
>0 miles from work
>insists that i can't ditch the car

Did a mongoloid make this?
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>>389299464
it's clear that the poster does not abide by ancapism because he named the file ancrap
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>>389299464
>commie is too poor to trade
lmao
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>>389295506
It's not about obsessed with america it's because first the game is about fucking america, and second 50%+ of people itt are americans. Your natural reaction when you play the game and see people's stories is "what the fuck kind of hellhole is america, i'm sure glad I don't live there"
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>>389299509
Fug off.
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>>389299534
>wealth
>ever
Cuck
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>>389299513
>Did a mongoloid make this?

someone looking anywhere else but themselves to blame for their troubles.

ie. Leftist
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>>389299649
>poverty
>always
kcuc
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>>389299665
t. someone who probably believes in white genocide
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>>389297557
>>play video games all day (costs money)
laughing piratefags.exe
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>can't ditch the dog
>can't work two jobs
>car breaks down every time you use it
>30 bucks for laundry
>can't sell car for some cash and bus everywhere
>ask you for 10 dollars when it proves they need more than 10
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>>389298261
>60% of the fags ITT are freeloaders bitching about people who struggle to make it on their own
It's like pottery, it rhymes
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>>389299705
>pointing out the utter childish retardation of leftist makes you an alt righter

lmao keep crying literal child.
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poor people and people who cant afford to pay usury to insurance companies deserve to die because what good is a workforce, just increase your income lmao
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>>389284492

Credit score, how it rises and falls isn't common sense. How to buy a house, what credit you need and knowing what you're supposed to be paying for it, isn't common sense. Getting a good deal with a good contract and good interest rates on a car, isn't common sense. Knowing what car brands and performance per miles driven isn't common sense.

Without good parents to teach you these things, you learn them by fucking up, a process that is costly and none reversible. You're not going to magically get back those thousands you over paid or get your credit score to 850 in a year.
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>>389299804
>just give me money lmao

nope
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>>389299728
what are opportunity costs?
what are utility costs?
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>>389299804
This, lmao, why should anyone care about anyone other than themselves
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>>389288863
>no gay sex with hats on
>no stupid yiff tab
>no FBI bait tabs
you fucked up anon
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>>389299880
>money
Oh you small minded simpleton
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>>389299572
I don't normally do this, but I'll point you towards some helpful sources on privilege. Beyond that, you'll have to research it yourself!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeYpvV3eRhY
http://everydayfeminism.com/2017/06/about-white-privilege-best-of-ef/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTvakFCs8No
http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Privilege

Have a look at them! I think you'll be surprised how much privilege you take for granted.
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>>389298865
Did I ever claim it was unavoidable? Your personal expirience means jack shit, the debt from student loans is above 1.2 trillion dollars.
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>>389299914
>just increase your income lmao

in case you didn't notice, he's a leftist cuck asking for money.
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>>389278017
This. Not my fault. Don't have kids and don't make shit career or financial decisions
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>>389299865
He was only talking about saving money. Saving money is simply a matter of not sending out more than you're taking in. That's enough to get you a bus-ride to the library where you can look this shit up. ezpz
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>all the classcucks ITT
lmao
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>>389287447
How young are you? The legal system is painfully slow to help make sure that shit gets done right the first time, which still doesn't work out so well.There are so many legal loopholes that it's easy to commit white crimes and get away with it.
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>>389299947
You don't deserve food or shelter given from anyone else. You're not entitled that for just breathing.
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>rent increase is illegal
>no option to challenge
I honestly hope this cuck I'm playing as ends up homeless
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>>389298937
>>389299080
>>389299383
I swear the more I look into these questions, the more obvious this is to make a plea for liberal arts tumblerina types.

>you have a degree, but somehow you don't have a job in a relevant field that capitalizes on it.
>still in student debt instead of having worked through that in college
>financing a car despite in STUDENT DEBT the mother of all debts that is IRRE-FUCKING-VOKABLE
>knocked up with an anchor baby because you slutted up through college
>more worried about your child being 'fashionable and socially accepted' than well fed and ALIVE
>800+ dollar rent, definitely cali area
>instead of moving to a part of the country where you could get by on a useless degree - nebraska, iowa, kansas, etc.

I swear to christ this 'donantion' is probably some slush fund for margaritas, avacado toast, and fish tacos

they might have had a case for actual pity if they didn't shoehorn dumbass 'quality of life' crap when you should be concerned with how you're going to eat next week.
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>>389299914

>We should pay for other people's fuck up

Get The Fuck Out. I shouldn't be taxed more cause you shit out kids by the half dozen or because you refuse to pay for YOUR OWN INSURANCE. Fucking communists. Life isn't fair, just because some people get shit on in life and others don't doesn't excuse you to bring every one down to an equal level of shit. Something communism excels at.
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>>389299986
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting you cunt
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>>389300036
>leftist cuck asking for money
how is being a slave to health insurance premiums hiking anything but cuckoldry americana in action? would you rather half the workforce was sick and dragged down productivity to save a few bucks for the megacorps?
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>>389299914
>this picture is what leftists actually believe
Yes clearly you guys are the anti-establishment rebels that's why everyone in government and media is constantly telling you you're the good guys
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>>389300103
>t. low class shitter

You're worthless m8 lmao
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>>389300119
You don't deserve the machinations of society made by anyone else. Do everything for yourself without anyone else or fuck off.
Fuck off you retarded ancap
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>>389276916
Shit sucks but why are people more concerned with solving the symptoms instead of solving the problem.

Get fucking sorted, don't have kids til you are read, live well within your means and pick a good college major. Also don't live in the fucking city if you can't compete, Cities should be for winners not losers, small cheap towns are for losers who need to get sorted.
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>>389278017
>live with parents
>work for city
>shit pay but medical care never costs more than $20 per visit
>use dosh for car payments and vidya

I know I'm going to regret my reckless spending eventually
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>>389300174
>I don't know what communism is other than a blanket boogeyman for anything i don't like
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>>389300223
>move to "small cheap town"
>there's nowhere to live and no jobs
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>>389300103
>being a commiebrainlet
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>>389300206
Leftist =/= liberal
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>>389300296
wtf you going on about.
Do some research, pick a small town with low unemployment. it's not hard.
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>>389300218
>You don't deserve the machinations of society made by anyone else. Do everything for yourself without anyone else or fuck off.


seeing as I do contribute to society through working, I'd say that I am. You couldn't say the same though. If you do work, then you're just greedy and asking for more. If not, you're just a lazy neet piece of shit. Either way, it's up to you to better yourself.
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guys guys shhh you're scaring the job creators
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>>389299509
>unironically using the term white privilege
>Cuck vs. The Forces of Evil

>>/tumblr/
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>>389300403
I'm not saying that I need help, I'm doing fine on my own but I'm lucky, not everyone can be so lucky
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>>389300332
this, I hate how people neglect the difference.
Just how there's a difference between a conservative and alt right.
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>>389300014
I'm just not sure what you're upset about. Yeah this voluntary thing is shit, but you have to opt into the shit so what's the big deal.
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Made it through the month with $50 bucks, made me kinda sad since it reminded me of my life
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>tfw I'm too scared to get a job
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>>389300356
>lmao just move somewhere that's perfect don't you have tens of thousands of dollars from your parents like I do?
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>>389300476
Yeah, leftist == good
Liberal == bad
Leftists fight for you, liberals fight for pronouns
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>>389299509
Where do you retards even come from. You've been booted out of leddit AND tumblr
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>>389300416
>implying Star isn't the one doing cuckolding
>implying Marco even remembers Jackie exists
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>>389300223
>b-but I shouldn't have to think once in my life or limit myself from muh wants!

I agree with you, 100%. I'm so tired of most people my age being stupid parents at the age of 21 with either no education or specialized training or just ass deep in debt from stupid purchases.
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>>389299797
>Commies living with their parents take up a meaningless crusade for the poor on 4chan instead of actually doing anything to help people in real life
Epic
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>>389299986
>I think you'll be surprised how much privilege you take for granted.

So I should stop being an able bodied man that had parents that worked? What the fuck are you on guy? That's not a privilege, you're twisting what the word literally means. It doesn't mean having natural advantages, it means being given advantages by others in higher powers to have in excess of those unchosen.

Get your head out of your ass.

>You're privliaged cause you're a smart working white male!

Oh no, the shock. HOW FUCKING DARE I.
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>>389300458
>not everyone can be so lucky

Not everyone is as hard working. I've been homeless m8, I got out of it through hard work and determination. I still know some friends that I used to have during that period, that fell for the "everyone else is responsible for me" garbage. And you know what? they've literally haven't tried to change their situation. I am not responsible for them.
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Why go to school when electricians and hvac specialists make a reasonable living without it? It's not even hard work.
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>>389300283
Communism is a form of government in which all people have the same rights and privileges regardless of circumstance, with true equality being the main goal, and it has been tried many times and it has never worked because someone always makes a powergrab and the disorganised equal masses get fucking stomped on and everyone suffers for like a whole generation until someone else comes to clean up the mess and everyone agrees communism just doesn't work until some guy says, "Well, they never did it properly, we'll do it properly this time," and the cycle repeats.

Time is a circle. You're a dumb cunt.
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>>389300537
pretty sure leftists for whatever demagogue is telling them who the nazis are on any given day.
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>>389300661
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>>389300537
>Leftists fight for you, liberals fight for pronouns


You're retarded. Liberals are level headed, Leftists are retarded commie SJWs.

Also, you don't fight for me.
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>>389300515
You literally just need to not be in negative money and take a loan of like, maybe $1000, maybe a bit more.
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>>389300174
while I won't defend the shitty life choices of this 'simulator' healthcare is something that is in the best interest of everyone.

nobody benefits from some chump being out of work for 5+ years to life because they need a hip replacement or some shit and no private health insurance is going to pay for that on a 20 something.

private insurance might have a case if they didn't default everything that isn't immediately profitable to 'pre-existing' conditions. I was born half deaf, and no insurance will pay for hearing aids I NEED to function in any job that requires communication, but I get slapped with the double whammy of pre-existing condition (from birth, so it's not exactly off key there, but it gets thrown around for bullshit reasons) AND hearing damage is 'cosmetic'

yeah, just for looks - totally playing deaf to get the laayyyydeees

I've since payed 10 times the money taxpayers paid for my hearing aids, and I even buy more and donate them so kid doesn't get the same shit stick I got.
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>>389300626
>So I should stop being an able bodied man that had parents that worked?
No. You should just realize that if you didn't have that privilege, you might not be equipped to succeed in society.

Everyone in this thread is making fun of poor people for making dumb decisions. But not everyone is born smart, or capable. Not all of us have a natural talent for decision making.
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>forced to take $9 per hour job
>penalty for no health insurance yet that is way under the wage you would be forced to get obamacare
>no food stamps, welfare, or section 8 offered
>no option to get roommate
>no option to carpool

I'm a poorfag and this game is nothing close to anyone's situation.
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>>389300728
>liberals are level headed
Liberals are the SJWs, leftists don't give a shit about all that social justice stuff, they care about economic issues
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>>389300780
What fantasy kingdom are you from that you can move to a different region entirely and be totally squared away until you can get on your feet with a job with just $1000?
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>>389300537
I'm pretty sure you got it backwards friendo.
Liberal literally stems from liberty like libertarian, yes they tend to be more authoritarian and left than there libertarian counterparts but they stem from the same root.

Leftists, progressives, neo-marxists are the sjw mongoloids.
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>>389276916
They expect me to give 10 dollars because I couldn't do it? Fuck off I'm poor.
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anyone fucking defending american health insurance is probably doing it ironically because /v/ is a place to sling shit for us cool neogafers
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>>389300920
>Liberals are the SJWs, leftists don't give a shit about all that social justice stuff, they care about economic issues

again, false. Leftist are hard-line communist that use identity politics to get what they want. They're your lot, and they're pathetic.
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>>389276916
Made it through with 253 usd. I feel like they trivialized it by a whole lot, but I get their message.
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>go to the laundromat
>$30

This game is just fucking retarded.
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>>389297369
>and you act like the right didn't try to sabotage the legislation at every step of the process
You're acting like the bill wasn't that shitty from the outset and that the right weren't trying to stop it for being immoral and wrong from the outset.
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>>389276916
>Merely speak to a guy about unions
>get fucking dropped instantly because your boss suddenly finds out and you have some sort of terrible relationship with him
>20 lb lifting is enough to ruin your back

what kind of logic is this
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>>389300780
Wyoming
I mean, i'm sure there are other flyover states just like it, but lets assume a train ride here is $50, first months rent and deposit is $700, donate blood for $60 a week which is your food money, and you will be golden.

Again it's not good living, but it's not impossible.
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>>389300971
Organise the job beforehand so you can start within the same week you get there. Have multiple things lined up in case one falls through. Travel by coach instead of plane. This ain't rocket science.
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So what's the Conservatives' alternative? Clearly the current system is a bloated pile of shit, so what do they want that doesn't make everything more arbitrarily expensive?
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>>389300896
So what you're implying is that the "smart" individuals of society should provide for the "useless" individuals of society?

I don't agree, because it takes away personal responsibility. I am doing ok, but others have had a much easier time than me. I don't feel entitled to ask for their money. I just accept that and just go about my business, I am not an envious hateful creature that refuses to take charge.
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>No option to sell kid.
>Making it seem like denying kid any nicety is a hard decision
>Having a kid in general.
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>>389301241
sorry this was meant for
>>389300971
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>>389301285
lmao more tax cuts for the rich, the poor job creators can't hand out all the jobs for us if they're having some of their money taken
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>>389296134
The health insurance isn't capitalism. It's actually something entirely different, and people have been making pushes to make our health care more like capitalism to make it more affordable and less scamy.

Case and point: Originally lasic eye surgery was covered by health insurance, and the operation costed $2200 per eye. However, it was later deemed to not be a necessary medical procedure, and it was essentially forced into the free market. After a few months, the operation is down to $500 per eye. This only happened because of capitalism.
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>>389301285
>Clearly the current system is a bloated pile of shit

I'm doing ok though, so are most people that I know. and I just graduated college. All my friends make 30-50k a year and we're fine.
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>>389301285
>>389301285
I want to clarify that this was meant for healthcare.
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>>389301176
you're acting like either party has the average american's interests at heart and aren't just playing the whole country for a fool.
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>>389297843
I'd have to honestly say maybe a 2 or 3 at the very most. I live way under the poverty line and off of welfare shit and none of this makes sense. Why does car insurance cost 100 fucking dollars a month and not cover anything? I pay $35 a month for AAA and it covers everything except if I run into a fucking tree or if it's broken into. Why does health insurance cost so much but not cover prescription pills or therapists? Why does a POOR UNEMPLOYED PERSON not have medicare or medicaid? Why does a poor unemployed person not have unemployment? Why does a poor unemployed person HAVE A NEW CAR WITH PAYMENTS DUE and not a used car or one they've had for ages? Who fucking lives 50 miles from their job except people with very expensive 4 bedroom homes in rich white suburbs? Who pays FOUR DOLLARS for one gallon of milk? I live in LOS ANGELES where food prices are some of the highest in the country and a gallon of milk is only about $2.50.

Why is the GAS BILL for your home almost 200 bucks when in reality it's usually only 30-50 in the entire nation on average unless you live in fucking Alaska and need your house to be on fire to not die from the cold? Why does it say you can't have hot water when you can just microwave it or do you somehow not own a microwave either?

Nothing in this fucking game makes sense and it shows a complete lack of understanding reality - not just "reality as an impoverished person" but reality FOR ANYBODY. Car insurance you pay for doesn't work, your boss fires you illegally and says tough shit and nothing gets done about it, your landlord bumps your rent up by 150 bucks and you don't go to a lawyer, your phone bill is almost 80 dollars when things like Ting cost only 16 bucks a month in reality. It's retarded.
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>>389278017
>tfw this is literally me
I tried my best to make things better
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>live in a real first world country
>everyone gets basic health insurance no exceptions, no retarded bracketing system or requirement to set it up yourself with fines for not doing it
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>>389301534
>single parent
did you burn coal
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>IT'S THEIR OWN FAULT THEIR POOR CAUSE THEYVE BEEN MAKING BAD CHOICES!
yes and growing up in a judeo christian nation that loves to bombard it's citizenry with an excess of not-quite-right information where ~50% of said citizenry thinks contraceptives and abortion will send them to hell had nothing to do with how those decisions happened. The poor folk in question are all just retarded by default and deserve everything that happens to them. Yep. They certainly could control their lives! Just like how everyone in this thread is obviously immune to poor financial decisions thanks to their superior autism.
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The problem is that the game's "It could be you!" thesis doesn't work. The wide majority of people in poverty are there because of some combination of the following:
>a. Because they made bad decisions
>b. Because they were born into it
>c. Because they were hit with a sudden large upfront cost

The game at best only really directly grapples with the first one, you're poor because you lost a job lucrative enough to pay for a house + car with no emergency fund after ranking up a ton of credit card debt with a degree useless enough to not help you get a job but expensive enough to leave you saddled with student loans. And apparently you're struck by health problems every 30 seconds.

It just doesn't do a very good job exploring the systemic causes of poverty, just the stupid ones.
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>>389301635
>I'M POOR , THEREFORE IT'S EVERYONE ELSE'S FAULT!!!!

see how ridiculous that sounds? no need for retarded strawmen anon.
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>>389301453
See
>>389301428

McDonalds is the biggest brand fast food place because of the dollar menu.
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>>389301507
>Right
>Tries to stop immoral bill from being passed that will make everything worse
>"Playing country for a fool"
Ahuh.
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This is just like those celebrities using SNAP and thinking buying organic celery for 10 dollars makes living off of 29 bucks SUPPLEMENT a week (they always forget it's supplementary and not meant to pay for your entire fucking food costs) impossible for anyone.
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>>389301776
But you're the one building a strawman by putting words in my mouth.
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I hate life, this game just goes to show how the eternal jew fucks us over. Deus Ex was right with the whole companies paying taxes and self employed points it made
>>389276916
lasted 6 days
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>>389301868
not the brightest bulb in the box, are you?
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>>389301635
But I literally am immune to poor finanical decisions thanks to my "superior autism"

I save/invest 20-50% of my paycheck, I live well within my means, I picked a good major and even now I work towards furthering my certification with more fucking certs. I am invincible, I am the ubermench and I got here through hard fucking work and delaying gratifications. The problem is everyone is a fucking hedonist when it comes to finances. You should be saving/investing portion of your paycheck every fucking month. 10% is the bare minimum.
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>>389301868
>But you're the one building a strawman by putting words in my mouth.


You literally opened your post with a strawman, I was making fun of you anon.
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>>389301781
are the Conservatives actually pushing for it, though?
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>start off as a stupid normalfag with kids
gee nice one Stacey, where's Jerome/Chad now?
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>>389276916
>put kid through Gifted program
>make sure they have enough food for month
>make sure they can enjoy simple things like ice cream
>still end month with enough cash to pay the rent
Feels good, able to make a better life for my kid.
Still, this a completely horrible poverty sim. Fucking $700 rent while living in the fucking country? yeah, no fuck off with this shit. An anyone who can't beat the game with cash to spare just spends to much cash on shit they don't need, like going out with friends.
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>>389281603
I go out to eat far more often than you but I probably only buy video games five times a year, and almost always only on sale. I'm also a super-virgin and I pay my mom's mortgage. Other than that, we're on a similar wavelength. I graduated four years ago and I have about $35,000 in the bank so I'm comfortable. I feel like I'll need a better job if I'm going to retire though.
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>>389300997
>They expect me to give 10 dollars because I couldn't do it?
My sweet summer child, they expect you to give the money even if you finish
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>>389301932
I'm not, but I do tend to approach arguments with discourse instead of misconstruing someone's words and then calling them retarded.
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>>389301798
as independent, keep drinking the kool-aid, surely the party that keeps making tax cuts to make the rich richer is totally the shining pinnacle of morality in american politics.

>the wealth will trickle down
It's totally not trumps golden shower

inb4 you spout muh libuurhl crap to deflect to bi-partisan, the cancer killing america
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>>389302057
>feeding the chef jews
>not learning to cook for yourself
sad!
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>>389281603
>only go out once a month

This is retarded, you're talking about saving money and how smart you are but then declaring the BEST WAY TO SAVE MONEY as a waste of money. Fast food is far cheaper than anything you can make at home aside something like plain fucking noodles. You can get a full meal worth of food for 3 dollars at McDonalds or Del Taco or basically any other chain fast food location, you can't buy even 1 pound of beef for that cheap.
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>>389301635
You want to help people get a better standard of living?

boycott universities/college that provide useless diplomas/degrees like women's studies and intersectional gender studies.

And second, promote the trades. Trades jobs are in dire need of people, mostly because people get lured into useless said diplomas. My cousin is a plumber and he's shocked at the lack of young people going into trades, considering he makes 120k a year easily.

That alone would make a huge difference.
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>>389301948
I may have, but there's nothing wrong with that considering the hostility towards people who need help.
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