Monster Hunter World

My mistake, I tried to talk about MHW without trying to stir up some console war shitflinging.

>>389261740
The first thing I have seen so far of World that I really dislike. The only flaw of the old system (aside from being newbie unfriendly which I don't give a fuck about) is the side-tumor that were charms and charm farming for certain skills.

>>389261740
Literally not a Monster Hunter game. Might be a decent game but if you took away the visuals and name it would be unrecognizable as a Monster Hunter game.

>>389261740

Looks pretty good, but I would say the best change so far is that gunner and bladmaster armor are no longer separate. God what was that annoying for sets that required rare parts, especially since I solo and use ranged and melee.

>>389262692
what if we call it flarm snarming instead
that way it wont be a problem anymore

>>389262810
The core combat is identical to the MH formula. Everything else is irrelevant compared to that.

>>389261740
not monster hunter

>>389263026
What happens to gunner skills then? The demo had none.

>>389263181
Too complicated

Now you only get really simple stat boosts that work for both blades and guns

>>389263131
It's not though, everything from hookshot, to potion drinking to "auto sheathe" has drastically changed the flow of the game.

T. I have actually played a demo

Again, it's going to be a good game but I would have much rather have it be a new IP honestly.

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>>389263181

I'm not 100% sure, but based on what I've seen I would assume the gunner skills show up if you have a gunner weapon equipped.

>>389263051
Sneed's Flarm and Snarm

>>389263378
They could have made dragons dogma but monster hunter offers maximum exposure

>>389261740
I'm worried about what this means for the real good skills like Sheath Control or Edgemaster. They seem too strong to be one piece skills, unless they just decide to put every good skill on the same armour slot.

Why do PC versions of games always have to be delayed or get the shaft next to console releases, it it literally sales or piracy scares? I wanna' play this shit at launch but can't

>>389263378
Not one person anywhere on the internet has said anything about auto sheathing. Provide proof or fuck off.

>>389263420
If that was the case then I think Arekkz would have covered that, his videos are pretty much the most indepth I have seen so far and neither have I seen gunner skills show up when gunner weapons are equipped from footage so far.

If they are outright removed because muh large and stupid western audience I will be seriously pissed.

>>389261740
I am paralyzed in fear by change and am angry that this will not be exactly like the other Monster Hunter games I have played to death

>>389263662
How long is the delay anyways? Doubt it's more than a month or two.

>>389263694
It's an option in the menus

>>389263808
Do you know what "proof" means? Fuck off.

There was nothing wrong with the old system. Don't fix what isn't broken, you cunts

>>389263869
>i didnt even watch the most basic of videos on the topic spoonfeed me waaaah

>>389263793
I honestly don't know, you'd think so but I wouldn't be surprised if it was upwards of 6 months and that'd break my balls, so hopefully not

>>389263972
>I have no proof

>>389263869
Pay more attention yourself retard

>>389263662
because they would sell considerably less on consoles otherwise

>>389263946
Too many retards who didn't understand it, too much "thinking" involved in making sets, too many french people walking around with unactivated skills

>>389263728
Now this is the kind of calm, rational thinking I can get behind. My mom recently tried to get me to eat a vegetable instead of chicken fingers and fries, and I cried about it for an hour and told her I would never eat again. That'll fucking show her to try to give me something I don't want.

>>389263378
>I've totally played it and all the doomsayers were totally right about everything even though there's basically zero footage of the grappling hook outside of the reveal trailer.

>>389261740
Good, I liked it. I only ever played MH4U and the skill system was an absolute shite. If it wasnt for my brother insisting and basically setting everything up the first couple times, I never would even bother with it.

>>389264180
Looks like the rumors about the game being dumbed down for western audiences are true, then

Wonder whats with the wahooing here

>>389264917
No friend, it's all "Quality of life changes"

Doesn't matter how many systems they will change and make more lenient, if I say its QoL all criticism goes away

That's fine.

What they really need to do is remove all the retarded skills like Sharpness +1, and all the combination skills that are way too powerful.
Shit like that made the game dumb at higher levels.

>new system will encourage armor diversity way more than the old
>fags are mad that everyone won't be wearing Dreadking set for absolutely everything

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>>389261740
People who are complaining about how "easy" this is don't realise that negative armor skills will also be gradual and trigger as soon as there is 1 point, so there's no longer a way to completely avoid them by having 9 out of 10 points. If you have -1 fire resistance points you'll lose -6 fire resistance.

It goes both ways.

>>389266284
Did anything even have negative stats?

>>389266284
Are there even negative skill points? The demo had none and also the skills themselves in the toolboxes/descriptions didn't go from -7 to +7, just from +1 to +7.

At this point I highly doubt there are.

>>389263026
>>>389261740 (OP)
>Looks pretty good, but I would say the best change so far is that gunner and bladmaster armor are no longer separate.

Thank fucking god. I really hated how I couldnt wear armor of Gunner as Melee.

Gunner always had sleeker versions of armor, especially Nerscylla.

>>389261740
one question i want to ask if anybody has played the demo can answer would be great

can we remove all the shit button prompting and de-clutter the screen? even go further and hiding more info on the screen? that is one of the thing i like about it when it was on 3ds, u can put all unnecessary shit on the bottom screen

>>389266932
Arekkz said you can both hide the combo prompts and the UI as a whole in the options.

>>389266446
>>389266486
The whole system was reworked, there might be seperate icons for the negative side. It would be awkward if "Fire boost" gave you the opposite of a boost. The names don't change with each point now like they did before because just like the mechanic itself the UI also drastically changed.

I'd imagine there would be a differently colored icon with "Fire Weakness" or whatever, Anyway all we can do is speculate for now. The Demo might have temporary armor buffs that are already different in the current dev build, or like Arekkz said they are low tier armor sets with easy to understand simple boosts. May be that the first armors with negative stats come a bit later

>>389266932
The confirmed answer is yes, but a lot of people are going to tell you no because there's a colossal misinformation campaign against this game on /v/.

>>389267084
>>389267136

noice, thanks mates

>>389261740
It seems like this'll encourage clownsuiting more than anything.

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>>389261740
>you can AED after a phial reload

The fuck did they remove this in the first place?!

>>389267136
No need to get so butthurt because people have opinions that go against yours friend.

>>389266102
Because I am sure there won't be optimal set ups like every other MH game. Nope, totally fixed.

>>389267642
*honk honk*

>>389267084
>combo prompts
Wait what?

>>389267939
Top right corner.

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>>389262810
>>389263378
I'm not surprised by people like you anymore.
After 10 years of rehashes you forgot what a sequel actually is. Oh, and in case you don't like to get real sequels with substancial changes (clealry you don't) you still have the aforementioned 10 years worth of rehashes to go back and play over and over again.

See? Win-Win for everyone. The majority who wants some change can have fun with MHW. The minority who wants to get stuck to every little system being the exact same can still play the other games, I'm sure you might've skipped a whole generation you haven't played before. Have you tried the first MonHun game? Have you touched MHP3rd? I don't know, I don't care. Just sayin', they are still there waiting for you at any time.

>>389267923
>opinions
>on things that have factual correct and incorrect answers
You should stop posting.

>>389268192
>Just want an upgraded sequel to MH4U
>Apparently I'm the asshole and I should just accept the game is never going to be what it was before and that's a good thing.

>>389268229
Like...?

>>389268305
Like whether or not you can hide UI elements, dumbfuck. That's not a subject that you can have an opinion on. The answer is yes, you can.

>>389263718
I doubt all of them got the axe but I expect a lot of them to be homogenized.

>>389263151
Fuck off idiot

>>389268192
>you should fix things that aren't broken because otherwise it's rehashing lol
Retards like you are why many good franchises have died.

>>389268395
But nobody said otherwise about hiding UI elements you sperg. Why get pre-emptively butthurt when the only negative things so far ITT have been opinion which seem to be enough to set you off and make to go to tinfoil mode.

>>389263151
This

>>389267923
>Because I am sure there won't be optimal set ups like every other MH game.
Of course there will be. But I doubt it'll get as bad was in XX.

The difference is that there will be many armor sets you can choose to go to a similar goal as opposed to being 4.

>>389268616
>But nobody said otherwise about hiding UI elements you sperg.
You responded to his statement that specifically was talking about facts for some reason. Please stop.

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>>389268229
It's bait from pissy Switch owners. Take a page from Capcom and ignore them.

>>389263662
>it it literally sales or piracy scares?
Both of those are major factors of course.
But also because PC in most cases gets way less sales so it's less of a priority (Xbone's version will probably sell even less, but since it's nearly identical to PS4's they release it the same day)

There's also the issue of PC versions being more demanding, you need to pander to a lot of different hardware and implement graphical options. Security must also be tighter and usually it's completely different from the console version. Also stuff like data leaks are a concern for some devs, they don't want quest/monster spoilers or the entire weapon roster leaking out on day1.
Even if all the (justifiable) trust issues were not a thing, it's still the lowest priority and attention-demaning version of the game, so it gets a delay to sort all of that out while the major (read: console) release goes on smoothly.

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>>389268814
>ake a page from Capcom and ignore them.

>>389264941
>you have to be a nintendofag to dislike heavy changes to your franchise that may or may not harm it
Kill yourself.

>>389269282
Swimming was a far bigger change and tri babies ate that shit up, along with medium bowguns. I think the series will be just fine.

>>389261740
While I didn't mind the previous system it was tedious and I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people never knew it existed in the first place. No matter what you say browsing through Excel tables of numbers is far from riveting, not to mention tedious.

World looks pretty good so far. I only got into the series recently but I'm eager to compare how it plays to the one I'm familiar with.

>>389268287
>Just want an upgraded sequel to MH4U
You got that with literally every single MonHun until now. I'm surprised you aren't tired of these very minimal and incremental steps. But again, if you aren't tired of the same-old same-old you still have the old games to play.

>and I should just accept the game
Oh you don't have to. Just go be depressed on that corner away from me please.

>>389267642
This. I'm even inclined to say that I like the idea, but if you like it because it will disincentivize clownsuits, you are literally incorrect. It's going to turn almost every build into a clownsuit that has 3 points in every important skill and absolutely erase all solid armor builds.

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>>389261740
The system make it a lot easier to get skill at low ranks but not really more usefull and efficient at higher ranks than the previous system, it's probaly the same for the charms.
I still hope that they didn't totally removed the gunner armor.
>hardcore part of MH up until now was making clownsuits to abuse the skillpoint system
>clownsuits
>to abuse the skillpoint system
lmao this guy.

>>389269412
Swimming has zero effect on grounded combat, plus most people called swimming out on it being garbage.

>>389269412
>Swimming was a far bigger change and tri babies ate that shit up
>"I literally never played, discussed, or even heard of MH until World came out"

Everybody was mad about Swimming and were ecstatic when jumping came about.

>>389269529
>most people called swimming out on it being garbage
Fuck no. Tri-babies ate that shit up. Even now there are still "bring it back but make it better" people. There were so many "you don't like it because you're not good" threads that it makes me sick to my stomach. But I'll play ball.

>had zero effect on grounded combat
The biggest change to grounded combat was the introduction of mounting and verticality in Monster Hunter 4. Or does that not count either?

>>389269529
>Swimming has zero effect on grounded combat
But it was still like a third of the combat in the game, guy. Stop trying to downplay swimming even though it was far shittier than anything new we've seen from World.

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>>389269529
>on grounded combat

>>389269742
>Fuck no.
Yes no.
>The biggest change to grounded combat was the introduction of mounting and verticality in Monster Hunter 4. Or does that not count either?
It does, guess what was the biggest complaint about 4/U? The vertical map memes and mount spam.
>But it was still like a third of the combat in the game
What the fuck are you on about? There's like 3 or 4 monsters that can even swim in that game.

>>389269942
>There's like 3 or 4 monsters that can even swim in that game
And the game made sure to make you fight them over and over.

>>389269942
Laggy
Abyssaly Laggy
Beard
Goldbeard
Plessy
Algae Plessy
notFatalis
PufferFish

>>389263662
It's because of publishing deals that PC get's delayed so that console Manufacturers make more money. PC port are only there to round out their sales numbers, the bulk of it comes from console exclusivity.

Piracy is also a concern, which in turn affects console sales.

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So it's literally like some MMO shit where it's +3 damage, etc. etc.
The only bad thing about the previous skill system was charm farming.

>>389269942
>guess what was the biggest complaint about 4/U? The map layout was bad but verticality and combat changes are 4U's strong points. It's weak points are wyvern and weapon balancing and how shit the maps were.

>I just want better MH4U, but without the thing that 4U introduced
So play Frontier. You periodically get new monsters, and the mechanics are stuck in 2004 like you want.

>>389270240
>Lagia and its recolors
>Ceadeus and its recolor
>Plessy (Fishable)
>Gobul (Fishable)
>Ludroth (You should never be fucking around with this thing so long that it spends time in the water)

>>389269509
I'm hoping there's full set bonuses.

>>389268192
>dumbing down everything is a "sequel"

>>389270306
>was charm farming
And making clown suits
And using Athena's ASS to make clown suits while keeping track of your charms.

>>389270383
>moving the goalposts

>>389270438
Screencap your monster hunter 1 hunter rank or your hours in MHFU

>>389270438
I bet you're one of those idiots that think scoutflies are "dumbing down" monster tracking.

Personally, I don't care how to get all the skills you may need.
Tomato, tomato (doesn't work as well through text but you get the picture).

If the system's dumbed down by having it be a plug and play type of thing where you can never get more than one skill to it's max because you've exhausted all the armor pieces you can wear then I'll consider this new system a failure.

is there no transmog system or such? i don't want to see every hunter looking the same

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>>389270438
>inb4 you are a tri-baby or 4Ubaby
That would be hilarious.

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>Massively increases i. frames
We Dark Souls now

>>389263662
Beyond the sales and piracy concerns, I'd imagine a big part of it is testing. PC requires much more testing due to variable configurations, however consoles have hard compliance requirements. They literally have to get a build to Sony/Microsoft that passes, and attempts cost money. So that becomes absolute top priority, pushing PC testing that will take even longer (and doesn't have an easy pass/fail indicator until its released and people complain) on the backburner.

>>389270832

That's what the skill always did you dumb fucker.

>>389270832
>evasion+5
Yup just a QoL change, MHW isn't turning MH into a casual piece of shit at all

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>>389270832
Feel free to stop anytime

>>389270561
I would love that.

One or two skills max.

That's all you ever need.

>>389270612
That was only a problem in generations and XX

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>>389269942
Only one weapon could mount spam and it wasn't even the most effective tactic since damage is so low and thresholds become so high.

The issues with 4U were Guild quests and Relics. They were complete ass no matter how you spin it.

>>389271074
>1 - 2 - 3
>somehow less casual than 1 - 1.5 - 2 - 2.5 - 3

>>389271179
>I would love that
Motherfucker you're out of your damn mind. Like i'm as hype for MHW as much as the next guy but the man you're responding to is absolutely right, that would be a dumpster fire of a change

I honestly don't understand the people who get so pissy over all those changes. If you want to play a game that's like other MH games can't you just...go back to the older games? There's like what, 15 of them?

Or are people really this mad about this game being accessible to other players? In what fucking world your favorite game doing better pisses you off? I know most people on this board are using hyperboles but it still boggles my mind.

>>389271224
This. Didn't *coughGrandcough* have that *coughDivinecough* problem in *coughIrecough* in 4U *coughObicough*.

>>389271293
I actually think MHW looks like hot ass.

I just like that change because of how retarded most of the skills in MH are.

They just break the balance of the game.

You need to either choose between bullshit I frames or Sharpness + 1

Can't have both and a bunch of other skills on top of it.

>>389271289
The difference probably being that it's going to be a lot easier to get +5 Evasion, but we literally haven't seen any other skills than this. I really don't doubt that it has even more increased i. frames.

>>389271378
It's not like the jump from MHFU to Tri either. Where there were less weapons, completely restructured bowgun system, swimming, less wyverns, etc

People just feel like throwing a bitch fit. Most of the clowns from minegarde I keep in contact with are absolutely stocked for MHW. The only people that are against it are contrarian shitheads

>>389271378
there's like 3 good ones and 12 games with strictly less content than the others. For a man who spots hyperbole you sure are shit at avoiding them.

Not to mention "you had your games our turn now" is a shit argument in the first place.

>>389271378
The people complaining are either console warriors masquerading as MH fans, or, more likely, people who have gotten their whole sense of self esteem wrapped up in their hardcore cred. If games aren't needlessly complex from the onset, and more people can play them at a low level of entry, then all of their accomplishments are invalidated and they can't prove to everyone how sicknasty they are at video games.

either way, their opinions are meaningless and should be ignored.

I'm just fucking thrilled they made it so Gun armor and Blade will swap with weapon change so you don't have to make the same fucking set.

>>389271491
Evasion always had kind of a stupid breakdown. Evade+1 is 10 frames, +2 is 12 frames, which is like why even fucking bother, and then +3 is suddenly 18 frames.

I'd be willing to bet all they did was have 1-5 being 10, 12, 14, 16, and 18. I like the idea of more granular skill setups.

>>389271449
You mean to tell me you didn't have a full set of GQ gear, anon?

>>389271491
>The difference probably being that it's going to be a lot easier to get +5 Evasion
As if it was hard to get Evasion +3, right?

>>389271485
> choose between bullshit I frames
You don't need evasion skills if you have good positioning. And where that fails you've been able to roll through an extremely large number of attacks since MHF2.

MHW is a more real Monster Hunter than Frontier will ever hope to be

One thing I noticed is that there doesn't seem to be any negative skills this time around, unless I missed them.

>>389271573
>>The only people that are against it are contrarian shitheads
Oh my God, /v/'s being contrarian!? Call the fucking presses.

>>389271756
That could be true, but I guess we'll literally have to wait and see.

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>>389270832
Man, newfags hating on the newest release for no reason (it's the cool FOTM meme I guess) are the most obnoxious shitters out there, let me tell you.

>>389271573
I'll admit I've only played one MH game so far so I'm not expert but I'm liking it a lot, even if people tell me it's pretty easy. I bounced back from the first one I've played, though admittedly I didn't feel like wiki-diving back then. The game being more clear on what it wants you to do isn't a problem if you ask me.

>>389271618
I really don't know how many MH games there are nor how good they are because I've played only one.

And I'm not saying it's 'my turn' I just feel like people are overreacting to changes about things that have been done over and over.

>>389271731
I've learned to disregard 'longtime fans' especially when it's angry or rant-like stuff. Those people have strong 'opinions' and will blow up when anything threatens them. That said I've met a few fans that really helped me out with getting into MH, even coaching me in some weapons. Those are who I'd listen to more and most seem to be hyped for MHW.

>>389271224
So we can transmog appearances for armor in World??

>>389271880
Well Frontier was a spin-off and not mainline, so yeah.

>>389261740
Boy depending on how they balance this new system clown suiting might be even more OP. Looks like negative skills are gone, and if stuff like Critdraw if kept the same with the one level of it will be incredibly easy to get on all sets. Decorations and charms are about to be even more useful than they were before too. I'm a bit torn, I kind of liked calculating the best set I could possibly make for whatever weapon and charms I had on hand, but this seems to open up that system to be way more customizable.

>>389261740
>Now instead of clownsuiting to get +10 handicraft +15 hearing +10 focus we'll be clownsuiting to get lvl1 handicraft level3 hearing and lvl 5 focus

As far as I can tell it's really just the same thing except people who wear completely random armor still get some bonuses rather than getting nothing, but it does look easier to understand too at least. It does hint at a large skill rework though so that might be good.

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>>389272064
>Newfag
Also, where the fuck did I say I was hating it? Goddamn, you Capcom shills need to stop taking shit so personally. Learn to take a joke.

>>389272096
I don't know????

>>389272230
It really depends on how diverse skills are for separate armors. Clown suiting might turn into something that's incredibly OP because of how easy it is to get skills.

>>389271880
>MHW is more real MH than Unite
Yeah, no.

>>389272083
>I just feel like people are overreacting to changes about things that have been done over and over.
I am not agreeing or disagreeing with you, but seriously how would you know? You are a newbie to the series meaning you don't know the systems and mechanics as well as other people which means you can't understand if change is big or small or good or bad so why are you judging and telling people to stop when you literally can't understand (to any serious depth) what they are talking about?

>>389268814
SO what if I don't own a Switch and still think (read: "know") the game looks like casualized garbage?

i heard monster hunter world is removing free movement
its now a rail brawler

>>389272626
That is true, I wouldn't be able to tell how much the skill changes will impact the game, but I also assume they didn't work exactly the same between different games too, or at least had some small changes done to them too.

And I'm mostly judging people over how BAD they are overreacting. I'll admit I'm biased because I cannot stand things being done over and over. It's what kills a series for me.

>>389272769
Then you own a 3DS.

>>389271179
bait

>>389273387
But I also own a PS4, Vita, pretty high end PC, a WiiU, and many, many systems from previous generations. Idort is the only way to go unless you're a casual.

When is this coming out?

>>389273405
Why?

Why must the game balance be destroyed by stacking as many skills as possible?

What's fun about that?

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>Around 2:45
>Just finished explaining the old skill system
>"Now, if all of that sounds WAY too complicated"

Counting to 10 is not complicated.

>>389274179
if you're so smart then what comes after 10 then einstein

>>389274179
It is for those dirty westeners

If there's anything I can hate about these videos is the act of having to suck capcoms dick at every turn because if you don't they won't provide you with this information again

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>>389261740
Do they mention how charms work in MHW?

>>389274380
Eleven-teen of course.

Really I'm just pissy that they always have to say "Wow it was so complicated back in the day".

>>389274480
As a neat quality of life improvement, charms can now be bought.

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New video
Bow + Rathalos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUEwoo8Nsq4

>>389274601
honestly i like it when games have complicated systems
even though im not very smart i like pretending to crunch numbers late at night when im just fucking around on these types of games

>>389274480
Nothing other than the fact that you can upgrade them.

>>389263181
There were no blademaster skills either, they will likely both be in later as this was meant to be a simple demo for the press. Even the more unique skills were based around making things a bit easier to use.

>>389273650
The best thing about his retarded, nonsensical shitpost is that he's using a Nintendo creature.

>>389275012
Or there are no distinct skills and they were all relegated to the mantles

>>389263808
>bitching about an option
autism

>>389263662

Capcom prioritizes the console versions because they're a bigger pain in the ass to deal with

The PC version then gets worked on by a dedicated team making sure it meets their QA standards as well as including customizable options like key binding, video and audio options, controller support, multi-language support and UI touch ups for higher resolutions.

That's been their workflow for their PC ports since last gen. It's served them well and I'm willing to wait. Capcom is one of the few Japanese devs that actually puts effort in their PC ports. It's why I can never hate them no matter how much /v/ wants to brainwash me.

Inb4 some faggot starts crying about SFV

>>389261740

Thank GOD!!!!

I have played MH since the PSP days, and I am so sick of this fandom bitching about any changes being made.

Every single thing I have seen come out of MHW has been for the better. This is how the game should have progressed MANY installments ago.

So many stale, dated, ass-backwards features in this game that needed a serious overhaul and this was absolutely one of the biggest ones.

>>389274714
>there are people who are claiming MHW isn't a true Monster Hunter when footage like this exists.
I had no idea how many blind /v/ users there were.

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>>389261740
>they even casualized Monster Hunter's perfect crafting system
>no more slots
>even 1 point gives you the skill
>"levels"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRHLDAzPOIU

Holy shit. Does Capcom believe Playstation gamers

What I find surprising is that you all "longtime fans" not only played multiplayer, (which is casual mode, where regardless of what you do, with 4 fucking guys you can't just faceroll all the way to the end), you guys all min-maxed the shit out of your skills, which again, removed all challenge of the game.

And then you complain about the newest sequel being more casual.
How would you fucking notice any difficulty changes at all when you're face-rolling all over every monster with 2 other faggots +1 idiot tooting in the corner?

>>389261740
Haven't read the thread yet, but i assume a lot of
>REEEEEEEEE CHANGE
>CASUALS CASUALS NOOOO REEEEEEE
autism

>>389275530
>Playstation gamers
are retarded or something? Don't PS fans feel insulted?

>>389275463
>I had no idea how many blind /v/ users there were.
B-b-but they own all consoles, so their brains can't be completely rotten by rabid fanboyism and paranoia!

>>389275315
Yeah, the flawless armor mechanics everyone loved and no one ever said any bad thing about really had to be overhauled.

>>389275538
Shhh you shouldn't try to understand how autistic man children think

>>389268192
dont worry about the haters i think it looks great and ive been playing since freedom 2 fuck those hitboxes. All of the little things that make monster hunter great are there i dont see anything too bad except maybe being able to abuse the sling like insect glaive mounting was abused in 4u. Then again i know alot of people who play with me locally never made it to 140gq and bitched about op weapons and skills. TL/DR its going to be fun.

>>389275538
Pretty much. The saddest thing is that it's true for a fuckton of fanbases.

>>389275574
How did you do that with such perfect accuracy?

>>389275157
We don't know either way. But there are still skills that affect actions, which hints more towards them returning than them being out.

>>389275538
>strawmanning this hard so you can win an argument against yourself

>>389275574
Yep. They will shitpost less after a couple of weeks as usual, I guess.

>>389275538
Hey fuck You whats wrong with Hunting Horn? I'm helping.

>>389275876
MHW world threads never change, they could show off the perfect monster hunter game but these autism faggots would bitch about the sun being too orange

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>>389276028
A Corner Horner isn't helping.
Go hit the monster.

>>389271085
Where is the challenge having all those skills?

>>389276028
try hitting the monster once in a while

>>389261740
>Not a single word in gunner skills
The new skill system looks nice for clownsuits.

>>389261740
I been wanting to get into MH for a while now but i dont have the consoles, guess i will get in with World.
I want to git gud though, it there any emulatable title for me to get the basics?

>>389276254
dude, it's not a fighting game lol. just wait for worlds to come out and play it, you don't need to train.

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I like the old system, even though it was a bit of a Stockholm Syndrome to it

The new system seems fine, to be honest. It's pretty much the same thing but more streamlined. I'm just curious of what they'll do with skills like Weakness Exploit, that are probably too strong on their own to be a single slot skill. Maybe they'll have tiers to it? Attach it to a piece of gear with negatives?

It could have been much worse. The new system is easier to new people but the ceiling seems unchanged, I won't have randoms with +4 on 7 different skills joining my rooms anymore so that's always a plus

>>389276254
can i kiss your butthole while jerking you off?

>>389276406
>s
cut that shit out

>>389276254
Emulating Freedom Unite on PPSSPP will give you access to a tutorial, I'd recommend P3rd since it has more polished features, but the tutorial portion of it was never translated since the game never came to the West.

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>Still no MH5 announcement

Drought incoming. Hope you're not sick of hunting Valfalk yet.

>>389268702
>>389263151
samefagging nintenfag

>>389276254
>I want to git gud though,
No matter what these autistic men tell you man, the game is not that hard, just hit the monster with your weapon until it dies.

>>389276409
>a reasonable person while we are in the middle of our wild Anti-MHW Sabbath.
Get the fuck out. Now.

>>389276028
more bonking, less honking

>>389276254
Every thread idiot like this asks same thing instead of googling

>>389261740

It's funny, as a newbie to monster hunter years ago this is exactly how I thought armor skills worked before reading up on it. This'll be neat since it gives you a lot more freedom in playing fashion hunter while not being completely useless

>>389273650
>>389275095
keep same fagging retard no one will support you're retarded casual views you have no value

>>389275530
There are slots though. Did you even watch the video? The icon for slots is right there.
The skill system itself hasn't been changed much at all, what this ultimately does is place more importance on the individual armour parts for getting skills rather than having to combine them to actually activate the skill, as well as allowing for more gradual increases over the "all or nothing or stronger" approach of adding the points up, on top of having less dead points. Because of that it'll only benefit and increase customization in regards to designing your favourite armour set combination.
>yet another case of something giving you more options and complexity but is at a glance easier to get started on getting called casual by people who can't actually look at the big picture and try thinking about things

>>389276134
The challenge was getting those skills together.

>>389270832
Dont know why people overreact like this. The new Attack skill goes to 7 but its basically the equivalent of Attack+3 in previous games. Chances are this will just be Evasion+3 when maxed.

I honestly prefer this new system because it basically ensures that no skill point is wasted.
My biggest issue with pretty much all these complaints that people have (like scout flies, like being able to teleport back to base, like the armor system change) is that they're only a barrier for new players, and to advanced players it barely means anything. If you remove a feature that's effectively just a roadblock for new players but doesn't affect advanced players one way or the other, who does it hurt, exactly?
Very strange that people are so mad about this change.

>>389274714
>critical distance is no longer a mysterious range that requires meditating under a waterfall until you reach a state of enlightenment to understand perfectly
CASUALIZED

>When you call something and get proven right 10 years later

"Waaaah MHFU isn't casual" you all said, "3 top tier skills is balanced!!!"

Now there's literally no challenge to crafting armor. A good third of what made Monster Hunter unique is gone forever. Freedom started the decline, and now World has fucking killed it. Enjoy your Phantasy Star Online

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>see something i fucking hate
>see something i like
>then see another thing i hate
>repeat

i dont even know anymore man
ill probably still get it just because its on pc but i just really hope its not disappointingly awful

>>389277138
We enjoy to see the newbies suffer.

>>389277148
>Now there's literally no challenge to crafting armor
Oh yeah, booting up Athena and then grinding a charm was really challenging

BUT CAN YOU TURN OFF THAT HANDLER CUNT THAT WON'T SHUT UP THOUGH?

>>389277148
We will. This will be the best MH ever made and the sales will be the best the series has seen as well.

>>389277380
This. Every little thing that happens seems to have her pop up. She's almost as bad as Roll.

>>389276409
The old system was good, but the new one seems fine. However unless they're just hiding it to avoid scaring the casuals, I'm guessing negative skills won't exist. And do we know anything about weakness zones in MHW? are they still even a thing?

>>389277318
It wasn't always like that, casual

Back when decorations broke after use you actually had to remain dedicated to your set

>>389277380
Who the ugly girl? yeah, it is just the tutorial, there is always that shit in MH for the first quests.

>>389261740
does your character still flex when you do not move and use a potion, and does the characters still have the iconic running away animation? and do the grappling hooks have a limit

thats all I need for this game to be a purchase

>>389277479
>Play Gunvolt
>80% of the screen is covered at ALL TIMES by narration

What is WRONG with developers?! Shut the FUCK UP and let me enjoy the game!

>>389277519
And what was even the point of that? MH is already full of "grind so you can grind so you can grind"

>>389277148
>A good third of what made Monster Hunter unique is gone forever.
Pretty much this. I'll do a little funeral service to moan what is forever gone, I hope that you'll join me, I need someone as reasonable and rational as you near me to not die from the pain.

>>389261740
a good change until powercreep kicks in and we get charms with slots and multiple skills

>>389277710
>>389277148
literal autism

>>389269490
Please don't act like any game released after MH4U was an upgrade.

X/XX was a mistake.

>even more dumbing down

oh boy, that true western game experience

>>389277148
>gone forever

*gone until MH5 you mean

>>389274028
>Why?
Because if you can stack only 2 skills, everybody will use the same armor who got the 2 best skills and it's shit.
>Why must the game balance be destroyed by stacking as many skills as possible?
Stacking talent doesn't really break the "game balance" because it often come with some disavantages(negative skill, shitty resistance, useless skill shitty glamour) and not every skills can be stacked together easily.
Anyway a shitter will stay a shitter even if he stack every talents aviable.
>What's fun about that?
Some stacked skills can make the gameplay funnier and your farming faster and more efficient.

>>389277498
>I'm guessing negative skills won't exist
The demo probably has only basic LR gear so I don't think negatives would appear. Removing negatives wouldn't be that good, they would be great in this system to balance things.

>And do we know anything about weakness zones in MHW?
I have no idea, to be honest. They are probably still there, though, no reason for them to be removed

>>389277850
X/XX were good, but yeah, they weren't an upgrade at all.

>>389277148
I think you typed this out when the game was first announced and waited for something to vaguely mention skills so you could copypaste it and start your bitch crusade without actually looking at the info. MH1 skill system and armour crafting was not challenging or interesting in any way, it was just "make the full set if you want some skills".

>>389261740
so wait there is no gunner armor anymore?

>>389277802
It's ok, you aren't a real fan so you can't understand our pain. Try to image if your child would lost an arm, and the doctor would replace his previous arm with a westernized and casual arm. That's how I'm feeling right now. Just let me cry, please.

>>389277850
4U was just an upgrade of 4 and not MH as a whole, it lacked things 3U had.

>>389278064
And now we all have proof you don't know what you're talking about. Plenty of full sets gave no skills.

>>389278174
>Try to image if your child would lost an arm, and the doctor would replace his previous arm with a westernized and casual arm
It's a video game buddy, relax

3U was the series peak

>>389278174
You are autistic, and I'm a MH vet.

Consider suicide.

>>389274714
>oh I know what I can do I can talk over the fucking video like a bumbling retard people will love that!
i fucking hate youtubers just post the gameplay

>>389278282
It's not just "a video game" for a true longtime fan, you fake and ironic fans won't ever understand.

>>389278526
stop shitposting

>>389278183
If by plenty you mean a handful of the beginner sets that you bought then sure, congrats for outing yourself as not getting further than that. Even standard Velociprey armour gave a skill, and I know this despite being a vain bastard back in the day who didn't wear a helmet and therefore either had no skills enabled or far less/weaker versions.

>>389278526
Post 4U, X/XX play time.

>>389278174
>Try to image if your child would lost an arm, and the doctor would replace his previous arm with a westernized and casual arm
Thats one of the worst and most autistic analogies i ever read on /v/, even taking in consideration all the food analogies from here.

>>389278483
This guy's nice, what do you want? He's informative.

>>389274714
Fucking great footage, FINALLY confirming that you can charge the bow without moving slowly, I've been worrying about that ever since they showed off bows and not a single person used its strongest attribute.

>>389278310
FU, 3U and 4U are all perfect.

>>389278657
You can't come back after exposing your idiocy AND boasting about how fucking much you supposedly know about MH. I bet you can't even Dos Yama. Just go away.

>>389278672
107 in gen and 170 in 4u

>>389263662
So people will double dip for games

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>>389278851
Casual scum, please go die in a hole.

>>389278851
Why'd you quit so early?

>>389278941
>Average under 4 hours

Are you incontinent?

>>389278941
>pokemon
you're the one casual, shiteater

>>389278941
That's a pretty big Monster Hunter dick

>>389275157
Mantles aren't permanent boosts, they're temporary self buffs like Wystones were. They have a cooldown and everything.

>>389278783
I want a video without some guy speaking over the gameplay? I don't care how nice or how informative they are. If you have "E X C L U S I V E" gameplay then keep it to gameplay don't fucking spit all over it.

>>389278772
what if they replaced your child's arm with a hamburger?

>>389279014
I play sporadically over the course of the day, I'm also not a fat fuck like you.

>>389279120
You could maybe ask the guy to upload raw footage then, it seems like he has an in game audio only version somewhere

>>389274714
>he carves the tail
>Rathalos tail
WHAT THE FUCK

>>389263181
There was a small announcement at gamescom that Tokyo Game Show will show the new Gunner/Blademaster system.

>>389279070
Oh please, his first MH was 4U. If you add up all the MHs I've played it would exceed 4000 hours.

There were days when I played MHFU/Dos for WEEKS on end, taking breaks only to buy food while revising my combat strategies.

>>389278785
I don't even know who you think I am, but you're wrong on so many points it's simply hilarious. Are you denying that equipping a Velociprey set in MH1 gives you skills? Why are you even bringing up MH2, if not as some gaudy badge of honour to cover up how you made such a basic mistake? You're doing exactly what you're accusing me of and then turning it up to 11, it's a bit embarrassing.

I started with MH1 and I think World looks good.

>>389279171
At least I can lift like a motherfucker.

>>389279265
Source your claims bitch nigga. The only TGS related MHW news I have seen is that they said that every show day there will be new announcements.

>>389279171
You sure are incredibly whiny and autistic about a series that you have less than 250 hours combined in, though.

>>389269509
Depends how skills are distributed. It'll definitely make clownsuiting easier in general though.

>>389279309
You shouldn't brag about this

>>389279389
I've played every real MH and I think World looks like Online. Because it is

>>389279309
Boy, if my PSP wasn't kill I would show you my 1000+ hours in FU

>>389279423
I was the other anon, the one with 1000+ hours.

>>389279513
Ah, my bad. I thought he was using the "at least i'm not a fat fuck" excuse for having such a low playtime in the series.

>>389279453
I'm sorry you're not as hardcore as I am, anon.

>>389279513
I have 7 separate save files on MHFU from a new game to G-rank. That's right - 7, I have three folders on my computer where I just store the old save files so I can make new ones.

It's not even the MH I played the most.

>>389279485
They look fairly different to me.

I hope world has a reduced focus on skills. Charms were a garbage idea and I disliked the increased focus on skills as the series went on.

>>389274714
>Watching Rathalos go near the edge of an open area into a narrower passageway
>Think to myself "can't get to close to that or he'll accidentally zone into the next area
>realize that's not a concern anymore
That's going to take some getting used to. MH has finally evolved beyond being a PS2 game.

Fuck cats

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>>389275538
>playing in multi in the first place
Why bother to make post like this?

>>389279419
It's called being there. Don't get mad at me when I'm right in a couple weeks.

>>389279389
I started with MH1 and I think World looks like everything I've always dreamed of.

>>389278174
Does that casual arm turn into a midget, and then into an electric tree, by any chance?

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>>389279657
World is like the full realization of Online. Y'know, let's fuck EVERYTHING up.

Funny how after all this time, Frontier is still closest to traditional MH.

>>389274714
>LS trips the bow player
lel

>>389279792
What on earth are you even saying?

>>389270859
Microsoft's attempts are free now

>>389279792
I'll have to play the game before I call it fucked up. All I care about is the feel of the combat. Everything else is superfluous.

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>>389279792
>MHW
>PS4
*also available on PC

>>389274714
Jesus, that Dragonpiercer shoot got close to 10 hits through Rathalos at one point there.

>>389279735
I started with Unite, and World looks just perfect.

>>389277148
>Enjoy your Phantasy Star Online

You say that like it's a bad thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsqoX7ia5Cs

>>389262692
There are far too many scrubs who still don't know how armor skills work, so i see this as somewhat of a plus

Im new to the series and world looks much better than the boring slow shit it used to be.

>>389279792
Please explain how world fucked up everything

>>389276028
HH in the god damn corner as a "support isnt doing jack shit man.
git gud and learn how tp play music while attacking the monster

>>389280107
So? Who cares? Most MH games still sell like hotcakes so why cater to the scrubs?

>>389279919
It's OK, you can call it fucked up. This is the first MH ever where they're completely changing everything without giving you the option to change it back. That alone is cause for instant denunciation.

>>389280146
Have you really not heard any argument made against MHW? What is this, your first day here?

>>389263718
Just cling on to the hope that add lots of interesting skills to maintain excitement at nominal levels

What's the tl:dw of this armor change?

>>389280252
I've heard many arguments and I'd like you to point them out so I can refute them one by one

>inb4 flexing and scoutflies

>>389272253
fuck that pisses me off more than it should

>>389280146
World doesn't let him sub 10 a G rank Fatalis by hitting its tail and feet which is his definition of "traditional Monster Hunter"
World is not a real MonHun game

>>389280291
bonuses equip with a single armor piece, rather than a total, but the bonuses are much more incremental and only become worth it if you stack multiple armor pieces with the same bonus.

In essence, nothing has changed, but the numbers have shrunk.

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>>389280332
Why would I argue against someone impossible to reason with? You've already made up your mind.

>>389280252
Nah, I'll wait and play it. If the combat is still fun I don't care if it's a bit different.

>>389280437
Because you're sitting here talking shit and I'm calling you out on it, so you can either take it like a bitch and admit that you're a low tier shitposter, or try to prove me wrong

>>389279792
I know you're just baiting, but World and Online are headed in opposite directions, Online sticks with the segregated map system even though it renders the entire map at once just to keep with the established formula, it also just adopted X/XX's style and arts system to go with the games, where World is revamping everything instead of just redoing what previous games did

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>>389280519
I don't have to say anything to prove you wrong.

>>389280717
Oh you mean the aerial dash that requires you to land an attack every 2nd hit in order to stay aerial and also uses up like, 1/6th of your stamina per dash?
Wow, such casualization. Go ahead and post the tonfa webm of the guy staying airborne vs a LR kushala in MHF now

Are we getting the full roster revealed soon?

>>389280717
Game looks fun.

>>389280717
Why draw the line here? Why not draw it at mounting in general.

>>389280828
>Oh you mean the aerial dash that requires you to land an attack every 2nd hit in order to stay aerial and also uses up like, 1/6th of your stamina per dash?
Doesn't it also deal pretty meh damage compared to ground combos?

>>389280717
It's always going to be safe to do that, right? Definitely there will never be any monsters that move more aggressively than that or have upward attacks. Obviously being able to get some aerial hits off on the easiest monster in the game means everything is casual and ruined now, right?

>>389280717
Choose your argument:

>it's OP even though it's clearly inferior to ground combos
>it's too easy to dodge even though big monsters will slap your shit
>it's too anime even though there's worst shit in previous installments

Fuck off

>>389280853
probably like a month before the game comes out, MHTeam loves to reveal fucking everything about the games before they get released

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>>389280828
See? You defending that is a stronger argument against your point than I would be able to put into words.

>>389261740
Looks like complete shit to be honest. I'll just pirate it.

>>389277140

i kinda liked that as a bow bro, it was out sort of our sweet science.

>>389280291
If this thread wasn't any indication you should really just watch the video and see for yourself what it's actually like instead of letting people sway you. But whatever I'll explain it and open myself up to that accusation.
Instead of each armour piece giving points to particular skills and having to reach a certain number of points on equipped armour to activate the skill, each piece comes with levels of skills that you get just by equipping them, but start at a comparatively lower amount and can be increased in effectiveness the more levels of the skill you have.
It's pretty much the same thing in function, except the increases will be more gradual and every skill level will actually do something.

>>389280913
Piss poor damage, yeah. It's just a mobility thing and used for mounting. Tri-Color ground combo will always be a better IG Damage than mounting attacks.

>>389280913
Couldn't tell you, it's very clearly an attack that's useful against flying monsters and to do mounting damage

>>389280853
Yeah, they'll reveal more later. They said there's already up to a little more than 40 right now and more will be added until one month before release.

>>389280853
TGS is having a day dedicated to the flagship reveal

>>389281025
Yeah but in order to see the reticle to begin with, you have to hold down the aiming button, which makes you slower. Basically, as a bow magician, you've still gotta get the hang of distances because you're not going to be aiming down sights unless you have to aim somewhere really awkward anyway.

>>389281090

as in 40 monsters in the game? hot damn that is great, hopefully that number doesn't include variants

>>389281090
Where did they say that?

>>389280853
I just want to know what that giant elder dragon thing was in the Wildspire Wastes trailer. I bet it's going to be like the Dah'ren Mohran where you run around on parts of it and attack spots on it before getting thrown off. Probably have to climb up canyon walls and use the glider mantle or the sling to land on it.

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>>389281090
Anon I'm gonna need some sauce on that because so help me God if you are lying to me.

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>>389276409
I think they will package it with other skills (Critical Eye>Weakness Eploit) or maybe skill Combos (Critical Eye + Constitution)

>>389281090
40?! that's a decent roster, but I'm pretty sure that they also included small monsters in there, so about 25 big ones.

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>>389281110
3 weeks can't pass fast enough

>>389281132
>>389281025
Yeah the way I see it, the reticule (at least for the bow) is a tool in the same way that damage numbers are tools. An optional method of letting you know what your effective ranges are and stuff. It seems like they've still kept the screen shaking, though, so it's not that necessary.

>>389261740
>attacking doesn't use stamina
LOL casualized to fuck

>>389281090
Anon didn't your mom tell you it's not okay to lie?

>>389281415
lol i kno, what sort of terrible casual dark souls ripoff is this???

>>389281185
>>389281223
>>389281293
>>389281306
Did you guys not pay attention during Gamescom? It doesn't include variants.
Yes this will be a fuckhuge roster.

>>389281415
>He never played MH
Fuck off casual.

>>389281472
Post a source you motherfucker

>>389281415
It never has.

>>389281415
I laughed.

>>389281472
If variants return this game will be great.

>>389281472

No i did not pay attention at gamescon and you are raising my hopes to a dangerous level you goddamn double nigger.

>>389281534
It did in MHFU, the only good MH.

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>>389281472
Sauce motherfucker, I REQUIRE IT

>>389281518
Gamescom you fucking faggot.

>>389281652
WHAT VIDEO YOU PIECE OF SHIT

>>389281645
No it didn't, you are literally retarded.

>>389281602
fuck no, if X/XX did one thing right, it was no subspecies bloat, deviants were different enough from the base monster that they were sort of ok, but a completely unique roster is the best thing about the game

>>389281710
What's wrong anon, don't you like fighting BLACK GRAVIOS?

>>389281645
Literally trying too hard.

>>389280717
1) it's fun
2) it's exclusive to the IS like it should be, unlike MHX's aerial style on every fucking weapon
3) it does shit damage compared to the ground combo

>>389281710
Deviants are good and all but the ticket system was the most bullshit thing imaginable, I mostly ignored them just for the god awful system.

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>>389281645

>>389281694
>>389281506
>Taking the obvious bait.
I'm not even sure he was baiting at first, just making a joke, but you still bit a hook somehow.

>>389280717

>attack on titan

>>389281808
I never really had a problem with the ticket system because I always had a shitton of wycademy points to spend, did people use all theirs up on stuff or what?

>>389281652
there is like 5 hours of footage put together from Gamescon, just give us a source

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>>389281837
Is it bait if I got (You)s in return? who is the one getting baited here now anon?

>>389280717
You are a fucking idiot. Enjoy your (you).

>>389281942
he's a lying piece of shit
the game will only have about around 35 without including variants iirc

They did not say a word about the monster roster aside from it being larger than Tri which is already an achievement in itself.

One could argue that the interview where they said they made sure to have at least as much content a previous games could also translate into the size of the monster roster but that's more speculation than anything

>>389282071
and where is your source on that number without variants?

so do we finally agree that single player is where true hunters are forged?

>>389281921
The problem is that I'm not doing the same damn monster 10+ times in a row.

Grinding is ok, but that shit was forced grinding.

>>389282141
Multiplayer is more fun. Playing with one other friend is the best monhun experience imo.

>>389262329
a bluh bluh bluh

>the only surviving Capcom game series from the era of "lets copy 4-player co-op Phantasy Star Online concepts into our franchise" built from retarded pre-teen fanfic lore with broken mechanics, multiple unintelligible damage formulas, miserable game design choices, poor excuse for fashion or creativity and relatively poor attachment rate outside of japan.
>so full of themselves that they think it's fun/deep/rewarding/creative and it's just the gaijin who are dumb and bad.

Capcom deserves to go bankrupt and lose their treasure that everyone else calls garbage. I'm glad that most people seem to be hating on this game/think it's a joke.

>>389282182
ah, the rewards system itself

yeah, that was undefendable ass

>>389282229
>2friends 2kat
comfiest experience

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>tfw when Dauntless(tm) will shit over this casual piece of trash

Feels good backing the superior horse.

>>389274714
>Monster is roaring and stunned forever.
>Rathalos moves super fucking slow

Yep, this shit is casual as fuck.

>>389261740
eh, It lets me be more of a fashion hunter. I swear my Nightmare set better be in this shit or I riot.

>>389282398
because LR has always been the hardest ever, right?

>>389276939
>you're retarded

>>389282375
I hope that you enjoy battleborn 2.0 P2W boogaloo.

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>>389282182
you mean trying to get Hellblade Powders which you could only get through shiny drops?

>>389282375
I unironically like the raid mechanics, but god damn do the human character models look like ass.

Monster Hunter on Nintendo systems were my first and only MonHun experiences.
I absolutely loved MH4U and this game looks really fun and I can't wait to play it on my PS4.

Explain why I would or should think otherwise. The game seems just fine.

>>389282478
>It's just Low rank!
>It's just a demo build!
>It's just a beta!
How long until we can actually discuss what evidence we have that monsters don't look that much smarter than prior games despite the hunter getting injected with steroids.