What does /v/ think of pillars of eternity?

It's not impressive or earth-shattering, but I had a consistently great time with it for 200 hours, so it clearly did something right. My favorite RPG released in the past few years. It was so good I actually did my first ever backing of a game with the sequel.

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Best modern RPG
/v/ sucks the cock of open world trash like New Vegas and The Witcher 3 or hipster tedious shit like Age of Decadence while ignoring it

>>389254908
>shadowrun

>great tier

kys

>>389254908
tyranny was way better than poe

Ps4 version just released. Playing now and it's as comfy as I remember. Controls are done better than i expected

>>389254569
It's a solid 6/10

I think it's overrated garbage and that anyone who likes it hasn't played any other crpg. Tyranny was better also.

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>>389255243
You're joking, right?

>>389255303
no, i hated poe but enjoyed tyranny

>>389254908
>>Plain pillars of eternity 1
Well I know your opinion is bad the moment I start looking at it.

I thought it was boring

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did any of you niggers play nwn2?

>the true GOAT companion

>>389255256
It looks like hell to play, based on the youtube footage. Does it have the option to play in POTD?I'd like to see someone beating that solo with a controller.

It's well made and boring. The writing is neat but lacks a strong plot an sense of direction to back it. The gameplay is in the same vein, an okay engine but repetitive.

>We have learned nothing from two decades of CRPG development: the game

Also RTWP is a garbage system and needs to die.

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>reached Drugan battery
>can't be bothered to continue

>>389255303
I agree with him. I finished tyranny twice while I couldn't stomach PoE. I stopped playing it around the time you reach the ooga booga village with the god tree on release because it was bugged up the ass and when I tried again I couldn't get past the first act because of how boring it was.

>>389254569
good but not great, shadowrun hong kong is better

>>389255641
NWN2 was legit great. It's a shame it got a bad reputation. MotB is also the last great crpg.

>>389255641
Yeah it was garbage
>b-but muh trial

>>389254908
>tier lists
kys

>>389254569
It was alright, a good launching point for Obsidian making similar titles. Really hyped for Deadfire.

>>389255659
>>389255659
yes potd is there. Obviously micromanaging is quicker with mouse and keybindings but I have to say I'm enjoying it with very little issues

>>389255641
Yes, several times plus the expansion. I have no idea how I made it through multiple times and yet find PoE too boring to even complete the first act.

I can't imagine how people like Tyranny more than Pillars of Eternity. Pillars of Eternity has better and more fleshed out companions, better and much less casual combat, better story, way more content and variety in it, better artstyle, better soundtrack. The fuck does Tyranny have? Other than the cool concept that they completely ignore? You people are crazy.

>>389256190
wow it's almost as if people like different things

>>389256190
also pillars is quite comfy, while tyranny is definitely not comfy at all

>>389256190
I suspect it's a thing of expectations. People expected god-tier content from PoE because this was Obsidian being unleashed, when they actually were just playing it as safe as possible. Meanwhile, no one expected anything from Tyranny, so it came as a cool surprise. PoE is definitely better, though.

>>389254569
One of my favorite games. I'm really excited for the second one. I'm trying to decide what subclass to take with my chanter, suggestions? I have him set up as a summoner.

>>389256613
none, multiclassing is for fags

>>389256613
Have they said what Monk's subclasses are yet?

Combat is shit, and then absolute utter shit if you're playing a mage type
You get a ton of races, sub-races, classes, sub-classes and backgrounds that only count for some negligible stats and only get you maybe 5 unique lines of dialog. Seriously how many people give a shit whether you're an >outcast, frightening, shunned upon Godlike?
Followers are shit, uninteresting and forced in your party
>2 drunks attacking an elf
>This elf insulted us. What you wanna help him?
>uhhh nahh I don't really give a shit
>Too bad we'll kill you too fuck you
Also you're the chosen one 5 minutes into the game. I just wanted to buy some land you pieces of shit

>>389256689
Subclasses are not multiclasses. Multiclassing is, indeed for fags.

>>389256810
fuck, ok. subclasses are cool, had no idea they were doing these

>>389256765
The average civilians all comment on it, on your disposition, etc, but there are so many lines they have that it's possible you never find them. The game has a lot of dialogue.

>>389256150
Because everything in PoE is words, words words, the game doesn't reward you very well for participating in its bad combat, and the plot and characters are really uninteresting.

>>389256513
>obsidian gets a couple million dollars to do whatever they want
>they advertise it as THIS IS IT, WE'RE FINALLY UNRESTRAINED BY PUBLISHERS AND CAN UNLEASH OUR CREATIVE FREEDOM
>WE WILL CREATE A GAME THE LIKES OF WHICH THE WORLD HAS NEVER SEEN BEFORE
>finally comes out, it's a bland BG2 clone with nary an original idea to its name and the setting is the most creatively bankrupt DnD shit possible

>>389257251
>>they advertise it as THIS IS IT, WE'RE FINALLY UNRESTRAINED BY PUBLISHERS AND CAN UNLEASH OUR CREATIVE FREEDOM
That is not at all how they advertised it, though. That was all you

>>389257251
Their campaign was literally "You liked Baldur's Gate? We're doing another one of those"
Where the fuck did "We will create a game the likes of which the world has never seen before" come from?

can't you just not like something, do you have to go on about how it's the worst thing in the universe

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Pillars of shit.
Hehehe

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Recommend me a recent rpg to play
I really need something
Bonus points for choice & consequence, branching, multiple paths

>>389257793
Pillars of Eternity

If you already played it, Underrail

>>389257793
Age of Decadence

>>389254569
Playing it now in preparation for Deadfire. I'm at the end of act 2 atm. I'm enjoying it so far. it's not ground-breaking but it's interesting enough to keep me playing.

>>389255641
>>389256150
I remember the part in MoB where you had to help the guy out zho had sold his soul to a devil because he didn't read the contract. One of the funniest sidequests imo.

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>>389258178
Already played it, have Underrail installed but never got around actually playing it barring immediately looking for meta knowledge about builds a while back

>>389258287
I haven't really heard good things about it
People seem to agree the story is good but the gameplay and the skillchecks appear to be literally artificial difficulty or made out to be as annoying as possible

>>389257793
Western of Loathing

>>389258882
>immediately looking for meta knowledge about builds
why would you do that? do you hate fun?

>>389255140
The first was was naff but Dragonfall had great writing and decent gameplay.

>>389259019
Incidentally, that's the only way to have fun with Age of Decadence, so he's one step ahead on that front.

>>389259149
shit opinion

I beat it once on PotD, it was pretty forgettable. Enemies are either cheap or just boring and the combat system is average. I have no idea why people love it as much as they do, it's just a 6/10 rpg that did nothing special.

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>>389259019
Because if it's anything like Fallout 1&2 then it's yet another of those games where half the feats/skills are trash tier or barely used at all, and some of the good things require proper planning to get

>>389259292
I was lead to believe some endings and routes literally cannot be achieved unless you metagame the required stats and what to do beforehand

>>389255641
Shit story, great characters, MotB is a truly amazing experience (except the gay MUH CURSE meter), one of my favorite games ever.

>>389259474
if you aren't figuring out the game yourself by doing difficult things like reading the text on the abilities and deciding yourself whether you want them, and instead are just following someone else's instructions then you're a massive shitter. these games aren't even hard, and you remove half the fun

>>389257793
divinity OS, sequel comes out this month
shadowrun hong kong

>>389256190
>better story
lol
>better combat
lol it's literally the same easy shit
>better artstyle
PoE had an artstyle?

>>389254569

>Do your best to save the tutorial companions.
>lol, magic storm kills them.

>prepare a good case for the animancy trial.
>psh, nothing personnel

>>389258882
>I haven't really heard good things about it
People seem to agree the story is good but the gameplay and the skillchecks appear to be literally artificial difficulty or made out to be as annoying as possible
*shrug* if you don't have the skills you won't succeed yea. But if you want branching and meaningful choice there is literally no better RPG

>artificial difficulty
oh no it's retarded

>>389259474
Oh, if you like roguelikes, check out Infra Arcana.
https://sites.google.com/site/infraarcana/

>>389259474
>I was lead to believe some endings and routes literally cannot be achieved unless you metagame the required stats and what to do beforehand
You're not supposed to be able to achieve any ending with any character, that's the whole appeal of the game i.e. the choices you make during char creation actually matter

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>>389260013
Is "muh trial" the worst trope in video games? NWN2 has an entire chapter dedicated to that garbage. Same goes for Dragon Age: Origins.

>>389254908
>PoE
>Above DivOS, especially by that amount
Try again fuckboy

>>389255303
Tyranny and PoE had about the same level of characterization and writing quality (per line) but Tyranny had two big things going for its favor:
First, it had a far more original premise, being more about being a cog in a machine than the hero (for good or evil).
Second, It had actual themes that tied into the mechanics, those themes being meme magic and the power of reputation

>>389260147
They are completely arbitrary, though. You can often think of an easy thing to do in a situation with your skillset that the developer didn't feel like adding in. You need to actively know what the developer thinks of each skill and what you get out of it.

>>389259761
It's not about wanting them, it's about them being garbage or used twice in the whole game

I just get the feeling PoE got made by an atheist mad about fantasy settings having real gods, and that could not stand because god is not real!

>>389259849
>lol it's literally the same easy shit
No, it fucking isn't. Pillars of Eternity actually requires management. Tyranny is spamming abilities when they're off cooldown.

>>389260459
I get the feeling you're retarded

>>389258924
Amazingly underrated

>>389254908
>Tyranny on the same tier as Numenara

Tyranny's writing is so much better than Numenara's I can only assume you haven't played one of them. Numenara is a fucking chore to read.

>>389260013
What happens in the Pillars of Eternity trial actually changes dialogue and ending slides, depending on your arguments.
>itsfuckingnothing.jpg
Just pointing it out. It did matter.

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I had a bug at launch that made the game unplayedable after I infiltrated the first castle. And I tried replaying it a few times, but it tok some time before it was fixed, so I never got that into it. I am at the 2nd big town now, having playeed it between large breaks, and there have been major changes to how the stats works and such.

In any case, Ive got a Tall Grass pike rogue, in rather heavy armor, because Pikes are heroic and cool. Is that still a decemt setup?
I also have a thing for duel wielding sabers and rapiers, I kinda wanted to go with that, but back then Tall Grass was a lot of fun.

I've been thinking of just starting a new character, a Chiper most likely. But dunno if I'll manage to keep playing it. I've been struggeling keeping to one game.

>>389260419
making your character is part of figuring out the game. if someone else is doing that for you then kys. it triggers me being around people who can't deal with being suboptimal

>>389260515

You're entitled to your opinion. So am I.

>>389260459
The gods of Pillars of Eternity are arguably more real than the average god in the average fantasy setting.

How do I kill the jade dragon bitch?

>>389260508
What? Did we play the same game? All you do in PoE is spam fuckin Slicken and whatever garbage your Cypher or Priest has while your melee guys wail on the enemies. Both games are equally garbage combat-wise, like most CRPGs.

>>38925828
Age of Decadence a shit.
>>389258882
The guild quests are good. The actual main quest is boring as all hell.
>>389260039
Hahaha, no.

>>389260679
Yeah, this is what pisses me off about Age of Decadence fags.

Make your character and get ready to waste your time. Once you figure out which skills are actually useful, you can replay the game and actually do anything worth a shit.

This is "gameplay", according to AoD faggots.

>>389260679
How is having to guess if a skill is bugged or useless figuring the game exactly?

>>389260679
Games are designed to be beaten, not to "have fun" with. Fucking nerd.

>>389260796
Is he immune to paralyse?

>>389260398
>being more about being a cog in a machine than the hero
The route where you tell everyone to fuck off and take everything for yourself seems to have more content than the others.

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>>389254569
>real time with pause combat

>>389260901
you haven't beaten the game, someone else did it for you. you just played through a visual novel
>>389260839
try using the skill and seeing

>>389260714
>this omnipotent godlike entity that rewards and demands worship totally isn't a god b-because it was made at a certain point in history
That was the dumbest fucking plot I ever witnessed in a game.

>>389260835
The best skills are all combat skills. Fuck literally everything else except crafting and lore. Those two allow you to BECOME AS GODS.

PoE felt like a gigantic cock tease to payoffs that didn't happen.

Every quest your companions had is "bad end", its laughable.

>>389261032
B-but, anon, the gods are fake! The world is thereby false for some reason! Everyone would totally flip their shit if they knew this!

>>389261032
>omnipotent
They aren't
>isn't a god
It's not

>>389261032
>He doesn't care that the divine figures looking over and controlling him were made by a different civilization that desperately want to hide the magic they used to make it
"The gods aren't real" is a bit of an hyperbole, but fuck me, man, it should change the context in which they're viewed.

>>389261150
>Edér's quest
>Sagani's quest
>Kana Rua's quest
>Zahua's quest
Pure kino desu senpai

Ironically enough, Durance's quest is the one that actually feels incredibly substantial. Provided you go down the right path, anyways.

>>389260971
Really?
I thought they were all about the same.
The thing that it seemed on the Anarchy route was that you get to interact with the Archon of Shadows more but I did Disfavored twice and it seemed the same amount of total content.

The main thing about the anarchy route is that you're doing everything that each other route only does a little because of their specific goals. The trade-off is that you get to interact with more characters within those particular goals you're given.

On the other hand, a new path is being released for free this Thursday where you stay truly loyal to Kyros and never rise against them

>tfw you will never know if Kyros is a guy or girl
>tfw you will never be girlKyros' fuck toy

>>389261227
It's presented as a thing people would lose their shit over.

>>389261025
Someone else provided me with crucial information about the game that the devs should have given me.
Lacking basic information isn't fun for a lot of people.

Artistically well crafted world the writers failed to make you care about.

>>389261395
play on easy mode if you're a casual

>>389261352
>On the other hand, a new path is being released for free this Thursday where you stay truly loyal to Kyros and never rise against them
Oh wow, they're finally giving us the thing they advertised.

>>389255243
>tranny was better

out.

>>389260835
I hate that one developer that pops up in ever negative review to defend their game.

>>389261414
This seems about right. Hard for me to care to keep going. Lots of stuff to do. Lots of writing. But I just failed to see why I should care unless I specifically wanted to play an RPG with that type of rule set.

i feel it had a bunch of shit that i should like as far as game mechanics, content and general game design goes. however the story and aesthetic just wasn't pulling me in at all.

>>389261337
>>389261337

Who was which? I don't remember the names of anyone save durance and eder

>>389261468
Well the implication is that Kyros actually set you up to stand against him/her.

Consider the Edict they give: it's not an impossible one to break but it would be one of the first ones broken and they'd have to know you'd interact with the spire in the area while fulfilling it.

Then they make you an Archon just to push you to acquire even more power. The general implication is that Kyros is purposefully creating an opponent who can stand up to them

The biggest cock-tease is that they don't give us the War of the North in game and leave it as a cliffhanger.

>>389261690
...Why? That doesn't make any sense.

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>>389260247

Not that guy but Divinity was one of the worst RPGs I've ever played desu.

>>389261051
Wasn't it technically you keeping a god trapped in your consciousness?

>>389261203
>demands worship
>gives you power in return
It's basically a supercomputer made from souls that governs a specific area of human life. So...a God.

>>389261227
>>389261192
The general public doesn't give a shit that their governments are corrupt as fuck IRL, why do you think a bunch of medieval peasants would care that their Gods were created centuries ago instead of millennia ago?

>>389262009
It was a pretty good video game though, unlike most CRPGs.

>>389262172
>So...a God
No, a machine made by other humans

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*teleports behind you*
*summons a shadow behind your mage*
...pshh
nothing personell, watcher....

>>389261472
if verse had a cock i would suck it and rimjob her ass then fuck it

>>389261743
That's part of the big mystery. Because Kyros is clearly the one pushing all this shit onto you but the reason for it isn't clear.

They give you a fulfillable edict that's time gated, and they likely know the Spires react to their meme magic which you absorb some after fulfilling the first Edict.

THEN they ask you to resolve the civil war (with Tunon as your supervisor on that task), likely prompting you to bring either or both armies into heel.

The big mystery is why, because Kyros is marching their armies onto the Tiers at the end of the game which you push back with your mini Edict.

That's part of the cliffhanger and it's the big one I was personally pissed about.

Maybe Kyros purposefully wants an opponent to sustain their war economy. Maybe they wanted to weaken all the Archons so that they'd only have to defeat one Archon to bring the Tiers into the rest of the empire. Maybe they're just bored. Kyros started taking over the continent, allegedly to bring order to a violent and lawless land so the question of why they set you up to stand against them is up in the air

>>389262009
That's fair but it had about the same type of story and same amount of characterization for party members AND it had better gameplay.

So it might have been bad but once you get under the hood of its writing, it's actually very similar to PoE

>>389254569
this is bait.

>>389262308
And that affects anyone....how?

>>389262270

I guess what disappointed me the most was the poor story and generally just how short the game was.
Also those end game abilities that you had no control over and could actually kill your own team members.

Why can't we just have Neverwinter Nights but with modern graphics ?

>>389262439
They're both massive uncontrollable manchildren who cry when things don't happen when they want them to. I'm surprised he didn't kill them both before the conquest. It's quite possible he wanted them to fail and didn't care if you died during it. Either that or he planned for you to get the edicts but didn't expect that you'd turn away from him considering you're using a downgraded version of his power.

>>389262791
Ye, we'll see how it all ties together in the new ending but I'm still interested. On the whole, and in 90% of the execution, I found Tyranny's world and societies to be more interesting than PoE's, despite being the side project to PoE being the main project

>>389262767
>tfw you'll never play Hordes of the Underdark for the first time ever again
Fuck ;___;

>>389262984
I just want to know one thing. Why can women in the world be married to other women? I swear to god I received a quest from a female shopkeeper to rescue her wife and I was all like, "wut." And there was no explanation on how marriage worked in the tiers,

>>389262678

Who do you look up to?

>>389263147

Its the current year anon.

>>389263368
I'd certainly look up to a magical machine that provided me with favors in return for services much more than Gods that don't exist.

>>389263147
There's a quota for obligatory gay characters in RPGs these days.

>>389263056

Indeed...indeed.

>>389262678
>And that affects anyone....how?
Death if you come too close to their secrets

>>389262009
>Not that guy but Divinity was one of the worst RPGs I've ever played desu.
Confirmed for shit taste.

>>389262367
Poor Little Aloth getting buttfucked by these guys every encounter

>>389262678
How is it so hard for you to understand
It robs them of a big part of their legitimity

>>389262367
I've never fought a dumber enemy in a video game. And then later on they made them bigger with instant AOE stuns. Literally what the fuck were they thinking?

>>389264076

No it's just that I've played some great RPGs

>>389264335
Which are?

Imagine you live in a society that was under army control, patrolling everywhere and magically pointing at people and killing them if they look at them the wrong way.

Incidentally, they also kill you the second you try to research anything remotely close to "Archery" or "Gunpowder"

Hey, dude, did you know that what they own is firearms and..

>DURR, WHY DOES THIS MATTER? HOW IS THIS RELEVANT TO MY INTERESTS?

Fucking brainlets

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>>389262367
>*perma stun you*

>>389254569
Glorified reading simulator. I'd rather play real RPG like FFXV.

>>389264279
They were thinking git gud______________________________________________

>>389264221
Their legitimacy comes from having actual powers and portfolios. They are very real and they very much affect the world. They exist and they act upon the world. They are not imaginary, but they are also not eternal.
The only question that rises is one of ethics and philosophy: how does one define a deity and how does man proceed through life knowing he is governed by his own creation?
What's fun about all of these questions is that they're in no way fucking relevant to anyone other than actual philosophers and they certainly don't affect our characters plight in any fuckin' way since our entire motivation to stop the big bad is that we'll die if we don't. That's it. The game pretends to have dropped a massive truth bomb on you but it ultimately means nothing other than being a cool little tidbit for neckbeards to argue over the internet about, much like everything else in the game.

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>>389264584

>>389264754
Except throughout the entire game you constantly come across misery caused by people that want to keep you away from animancy PRECISELY BECAUSE IT REVEALS THE TRUTH ABOUT THE GODS.

I used to read any books that I pick up for the first 20 hours, and then I stopped because I can't make any sense of it.

>>389264754
>The game pretends to have dropped a massive truth bomb on you but it ultimately means nothing other than being a cool little tidbit for neckbeards to argue over the internet about, much like everything else in the game
yeah or you could just play the game without complaining about something you imagined it to have done that you didn't like

>>389264754
>Their legitimacy comes from having actual powers and portfolios
So they're as legitimate as the average king before people get fed up with him and cut his head?

>>389264781
There's nothing RPG about PoE. Just thousands of lines of text.

If I wanted to read fantasy I'd be reading Full Metal Alchemist.

PoE doesn't even have epic man sized swords that do million points of damage per hit or glorious flying mid air battles where you teleport behind the gazillion hp monster and take them down in a battle that decides the fate of the world.

Oh and all characters are boring adults not teenagers who have been chosen to save the world. Very boring.

>>389265018
If the king could kill you with God magic then yeah, pretty much. It's still not much different than many DnD Gods that are also just dudes that were bad enough to claim divine thrones.

>>389264842
Yeah, with good fucking reason considering the last guys that dabbled in animancy made Gods out of human souls.

>>389260835
I like the combat and background lore but the setting in its current time is dull as fuck.

>>38926547
>It's still not much different than many DnD Gods that are also just dudes that were bad enough to claim divine thrones
It is though they didn't have to go through any trials nor can they claim divine right
>If the king could kill you with God magic then yeah
He can kill you with money magic
>with good fucking reason considering the last guys that dabbled in animancy made Gods out of human souls
They're afraid people will shut them off

>>389264393

Neverwinter Nights and Neverwinter Nights 2

>>389265412
I enjoyed your post

It's a very fun RPG. Gets too much crap.

>>389257420
>You liked Baldur's Gate? We're doing another one of those

Well no. Actually it claimed to be Baldur's Gate, Icewind Dale, and Planescape: Torment all in one.

>>389265769
They're basically magic soul AIs with self preservation routines, and also mans greatest creation.
Sure you could destroy them but most of them aren't inherently malicious and they do command a great deal of power. It certainly doesn't look like a situation where humanity must revolt as soon as they discover the truth, since the world has been doing perfectly fine other than the shit the big bad eternal cult biawac man was doing.

>>389267240
>other than the shit the big bad eternal cult biawac man was doing
On whose behalf?

>>389267584
Now that's a slippery slope if I ever saw one. The Goddess could have easily been a secret wizard soul society and the plot wouldn't have been any different.
What about the crafting God that just wanted you to use tools? Or the life God that was a cool dude?

>>389267907
>What about the crafting God that just wanted you to use tools?
Fucked over by another god
>Or the life God that was a cool dude?
Same but also destroy your home and take a chunk of your soul when he wakes up

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Is there a Necromancer class in this game?

>>389268914
Nope. You can summon Skeletons and Ogres with certain items or abilities, but that's about it.
Sorry, my man.

>>389268612
But...that's Gods. In every work of fiction Gods are assholes and cunts and they fight and vie for power. I guess people would technically be better off without them, but many of them also use their powers for good.
If anything if anyone learned enough about animancy they'd just try to absorb god powers from the gods.
Would they then become an actual proper God?

>not summoning giant beetles

>>389269073
Then I'm afraid this game isn't for me. Thank you for your answer.

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>>389269270
>Summon Wyrms
>They're shit

>>389254569
It was good compared to modern rpg's. Still couldn't really immerse myself due to "le fate of world depends on ya chosen one" writing with edgy fedora conclusion. Also choosing muh bad or good was extremely cliche and one dimensional. Like bleeding heart humanitarian decisions also should have the potential to fuck things up for the world and vice versa.

>>389254569
great game. amazing story. combat is sometimes not awesome. 9/10

>>389254908
tides of numenera was superior to all of these

>>389270397
hahahaha

Deadfire looks so good

>>389254569
Too much focus on exposition and world building, and it felt like everything else suffered for it. I hope they focus less on it with 2, but considering they are basing it Deadfire Archipelago, I'd imagine it's going to be a shit load of it again.

>>389255683
literally this. it took all of the features that were bad ideas 20 years ago and made them core features.

>real time with pause
>shit class balance
>wall of text dialogue
>boring ass main story

The combat in this game fucking sucks and would have been improved a 1000 fold if they just ripped BG straight up.

>>389270581
I don't think it's the best, but it really isn't bad at all

>>389254908
DivOS is a modern classic, shit list

What is the perfect CRPG combat method?
For me it's grid and turn based with action points

Do penetrating shot and penetrating blast stack?

>>389272995
If you hold story in high regard, it's very disappointing in that category

>>389273342
Even the supposedly god tier gameplay is overrated as fuck

Divinity is a trash setting

>>389255641
It's cool to hate NWN2 but the game is actually fucking good. Everything is so campy, fun and over the top.

>>389266958
Pillars of Eternity is better than the Baldur's Gate and Icewind Dale games. Two out of three ain't bad.

I've never played Icewind Dale and I want to rectify that, is Enhanced Edition good? Is there a modpack for the series similar to BGT?

>>389258882
How do I get these races in NWN2? Which mod? And is it compatible with Kaedrin's?

I bought it on PS4 and just killed King Raedric (which was a total fucking shit show). I do feel it would be far better with keyboard and mouse. I am wishing it had a few more mainstream RPG elements to it as far as armor and weapons go (it is really cpnfusong sometimes what I should be armed with and what I shpuld be wearing) but I am starting to catch on. I never grew up with a PC so a lot of CRPGs were missed and I grew up onstead on console RPGs. All in all though I am digging it... The comvat is either cake walk or frustrating and the combat wheel is clunky but not the worse.

>>389254569
Meh

>>389266958
They never really claimed it would be something to rival PS:T. They said their focus was on Icewind Dale quality combat, preferably in a setting and story arc comparable in BG2 in quality. They half delivered on this, and then The White March came along and changed the combat to be ToEE tier.

>>389278418
Man, good luck with that. I could never play a CRPG like this on a controller.

>>389279226
It's a bit rough for sure. I am noticing that 2 formations aren't working correctly.

It's a good game

>>389254569
Bump

>>389281280
Don't bump dead threads. Nothing more is worth talking about, that's how shallow and unappealing this game is.

>>389270397
You're insane

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>>389254569
I don't understand why everyone bitches about the le fake Gods main story line considering that I think it very well parallel's how you can view religion in the modern sense. Both religions are creations of man to provide ordered forces of good in the world with tremendous power to wield while hiding the fact they're of mortal creation. You can either accept this and become part of it despite it's creation or utterly disregard it, often to your own parell and loss, due to its mortal origins despite claims otherwise. Eder's quest is a great reflection on this.

>>389281445
I just did it to make sure it wasn't going to be achieved while I typed my real post.

>>389269941

>Muh bad or good
Where is the story black and white? I think it maintains pretty intense shades of grey for the most part.

>ya chosen one

You can ignore the main quest entirely and just role play as what ever the fuck you want. No one is forcing you to do the main quest. Also it's not all done because of you, if it wasn't for the physic bitch you would have never been able to defeat Thanos. Also your companions for most people.

> Fedora conclusions

See >>389281780

Also you guys should see ^^ too, >>389264754
>>389262172
>>389261032

>>389281780
Agreed. It's a good story.

>>389272150
Deadfire is gonna have plenty of exploration and fun pirate adventures.

>>389283191
I just hope the customizable ships won't be dinky as balls and actually prove for interesting sea interactions. Not just a bunch of " haha le boarin party inbound Xd xDD"

>>389283498
There's some footage on the trailer that seems to show sea random events. Like a boat that is full of sick people.

>>389284262
Did they say anything about being able to hire crew or go monster hunting. I know they didn't hit those goals with the crowd funding but I think they got more money later didn't they from other sources?

>thinking about making a priest for my first playthrough (closest to cleric glory days)
>accidentally read about the big twist

>>389284619
Why would that hold you back from wanting to be a priest?

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>thinking about making a Priest for my first play through (closest to my cleric glory days)
>accidentally read about the big twist while reading up on the game
Makes Priest seem a lil' less appealing in the traditional classes sense.

>>389284619
>>389284775
I'm not sure how that happened.

>>389284775
The gods still have power. There's dialogue about it, too.

I wish there was a mod to remove backer NPCs, completely ruins immersion with their fanfic tier writing that no one gives a shit about.

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>>389254569
Dark Souls > Pillars of Eternity > Fallout New Vegas > Fallout 2 > Planescape Torment

>>389286602
4/10, I chuckled

>>389254569
Tyranny was better.

I never finished POE. I got bored after the fight in the underground lair beneath the city and never played it again.

>>389258882
>those dogshit kit rae swords

fuuuck

>>389286652
Fight me nigga, prove me wrong. Fallout 2, black and white story about to genocide or not to genocide but had still valid reasons behind potential genocide due to the dna corruption nuclear war would cause. Ultimately though it was very jokey and not to be taken too serious.

Planescape Torment had XD XD I'm bad cause im bad villains due to DnD system and simple le imortality would suck.

Fallout New Vegas had ambiguity in regards to right or wrong with all it's players to one degree or another. Every side had redeemable logic behind their actions. Had a variety of interesting questions, Do you weaken your identity and culture to benefit from immigration, is it a weakening/negative, is immigration a good thing - BOS? Do you value long term technological progress over political progress in the short term, House and the whole main quest. Are authoritarian governments justifiable for hellish conditions and savage people, Cesar's Legion?
pt. 1

>>389254569

ITT: people who are underage as fuck and are not able to get the hang of rtwp.

Also, funny thing is that when poe released, everyone was loving it here, for weeks. now, we got these bitter underage fags trying it out, failing at the first enemy and talking shit outta their ass

>>389287445
I remember PoE threads on release being filled with shitposting against it.

But it only got real bad when that stupid shit about the gravestone happened. The endless threads that came from that shit.

I like it

>>389287327
>>389286652
At what point do you have to let go of your past and forgive others and yourself, at what point to you keep at it to resolve it, Boone?

Pillars had interesting sets of questions and contemplations too, see >>389281780 for one of them. It also asked what is the right balance between letting go of and remembering the past, At what point does keeping onto a memory serve to be beneficial by allowing you to keep with it its lessons or become troublesome by keeping you stuck within the pass and unable to move on, such as with trauma. This is the big question asked within the White March Part 2.

It also had other interesting quests. One being if its alright to harm innocent people to accomplish the greater good, essentially all things Skaen related and also Thanos/Woedica related. Also how often just the pursuit of knowledge and purpose can often give plenty of fulfillment in life, Wael related stuff. The hunt for what you desire in life as well ties into this, Galawain type things. Hence why Hiravias chooses between these two Gods in his quest.

>>389288321
And you didn't even get into Zahua. His character and his quest are so amazing.

>>389286652
Dark Souls being number 1 due to its superb combat while maintaing a greatly constructed world, lore, and plot revolving around the fact that life is temporary for you and the world you live in is temporary but your actions will determine how the next generations and successors will live, even if they don't remember you, and you can either help that along at sometimes great sacrifice - even with the knowledge that even future generations may cease to happen too, or abandon that idea entirely and live in full embrace that darkness is all there will be in the end and nothing can overcome that in your eyes.

Berath and Rymrgand kinda play into this in my mind too. Berath being the fact that your actions in live will cause others to experience life slightly more in the direction you encouraged with your words and actions than if you were never born. That you'll be reborn contentiously in a way due to the ripple effect you'll have and also, majorly, through your children if you have them. Rymrgand represents the fact that even though this is true, this ripple will likely stop as well and also die, with the cold entropy of the universe and all matter. This is though, without much great effect prior though. Darksouls begs the question do you continue on despite knowing all the great effects youll have before the entropy or do you say fuck it?

>>389254569
pretty good game we pretend to hate for superficial reasons. you know, the usual /v/

>>389288790
Too be honest with you, I've only done a quick playthrough and I'm just now doing an indepth playthrough on Path of the Damned difficulty. Therefore, I haven't done his quest, along with many many others. I think Sargani's will be good since it seems to be about the right balance between duty and family. The importance of both and what takes priority. Haven't played it yet though.

>>389289470
Glad I didn't spoil you, then
Actually, I probably did by hyping it up too much, but I enjoyed it.

>>389281780
>>389282528
>>389287327
>>389288321
>>389289019
Shit, man, I did not expect posts this high quality when clicking this thread.

>>389254569
A miserable game. Just flat out depressing, no hope or optimism of excitement.

Where was the fun?

>>389254908
you seem to have mixed up the ok and great tier

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>>389290038
Explain as that's not an argument.

>>389254569
sjw crap

>>389289883
Thank you, Also I really enjoyed the quest, "A Servant of Death." This is because it was about how in order for others to live and experience the joys of life we must die to make room for them both physically and metaphorically. We must die for new heros to rise and ascend to glory in their age, to make room for them on the world and not take resources from them as we've had our time. Also all living things need other things to die for them to survive. carnivores must eat other animals, herbivores need to eat plants, plants need animals to die and live to fertilize the soil. Life really does depend on the Circle of Life shit from the Lion King. As this quest shows, Immortality would get in the way of this and death should be accepted as a necessity and means for continued rebirth. To not want to die after a good life is selfish in a way.

>>389290873
Everyone's dying, the peasantry's in revolt, my new castle sucks and is haunted and I'm going crazy or something.

Why do I want to be here? I was just passing through. This is just awful.

>>389291648
All the kids turned into zombie monsters please stop Sawyer I've had enough.

>>389254908
>t. Sape

>>389261352
>On the other hand, a new path is being released for free this Thursday where you stay truly loyal to Kyros and never rise against them

Source?
I really want this to be true but nothing I can find supports it, as far as I've seen all we're getting Thursday is DLC not a new storyline

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>>389290956
Explain. Although I will say I've always found women in combat annoying to me in rpgs as they'd get cream pied and it biologically makes no sense. Unless they're like mages, archers, or something. Even then they'd probably be worse off.

>>389254908
>grimoire.
>not god tier
fucking sape get off my /v/.

>>389291648
Well you can rebuild the new castle, save the babies, fix your craziness, enjoy companionship with your npcs followers, and leave a lasting impact on the world you're playing in. All the while learning some interesting life lessons if you pay attention to the story and themes of the quests.

>>389290653
>Underrail
>Just ok

>>389255641
the game is awesome, but the first part is very slow and boring. Also, each time I start it up, and have to relearn how the camera worked I loose most of my energy and never start in the first place.

>>389292149
the gameplay is mindless repetitive shite with maybe 3 or at most 4 viable builds
the story is the only reason it even makes it to ok

>>389255685
DLCs are the best part

>>389254569
DA:O shits on all of these

I wish I could play Icewind Dale for the first time again.

>>389292346
t. quit at Depot A

>>389292480
no I quit after that upon finding out my weapons gear and abilities were all suddenly worthless and stealth enemies could re-stealth in the middle of a lit flare then kill me instantly

>>389292608
Keep trying and you'll git gud, promise.

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>>389292767
>full auto into bug
>deals no damage
>psychic bug
>still no damage but now my purple bar is a bit lower
>melee bug
>no damage and now I'm in its range
>snipe bug
>doesn't kill it, now out of AP
>throw grenade at bug
>die
game of the century

It's a shame Avellone isn't here to write Deadfire

>>389291648
You can fix all of that, my man

>>389281780
Like others said. Words, words word and more words.
People shit on POE, but you really need to read a lot to learn the setting, which a huge part of the story.
It seems to me that a lot of people ended up clicking continue too much and never reading any of the books they find. And then they say "PoE story is shit".
No, not really, it's a very well designed setting and it was a good story, with a not great but decent villain.
The game allows a huge variety of builds and cool things to do.
Since monsters give limited xp through the bestiary, there is no need to kill everything unless you want to, which is great, since grinding in an RPG is one of the most anti-rpg ever.
It has some very cool fights, and the combat system really shines on Potd.
There are few interesting companions, but it's cool you can generate new chars at any time.
It has some minor inconsistencies in the world and story.
Art style is really good, the maps are good too.

Base 6/10 with both dlc 8/10

>>389293114
Assuming this isn't a shitpost: you're told how to fight the bugs. They're resilient when their shell is closed, vulnerable when it's open. They also bite instead of zap you if you get in their face, which deals far less damage.

>>389261617
Sagani was the dwarf ranger, Kana the chanter and Zahua was the monk they added in the first expansion.

>>389293693
>Since monsters give limited xp through the bestiary, there is no need to kill everything unless you want to, which is great
It would be great if monsters weren't fucking everywhere

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Maia a cute. CUTE!

>>389293953
except that this is true against literally anything with high DT
especially if they have energy shields, meanwhile your shields drop so quickly as to be useless wastes of energy

>>389295725
ewwww
why does she have a skin rash

>>389295830
Bummer, I thought you were being genuine.

Post your watchers

>>389254569
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRoSMKCw5qs

Decent video on the matter.

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>>389297258
>75 minutes

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>>389297258
>at least one person on the planet has spent over an hour listening to some autist drone on about Dialogue to Eternity

>>389296263
I am being genuine
Just because I have a different opinion doesn't mean I'm trolling or flaming or whatever
DT in this game is broken, DT piercing bullets help and certain psychic abilities can get around it but the bullets are too expensive to be viable and the abilities don't deal enough damage to compete with your enemies
Meanwhile every second enemy in the game deals non-ballistic damage that you can't block or uses melee attacks that go right through your energy shields
And there are so many more of them than there are of you
Stealth would be a viable alternative except that there is very rarely a way to stealthily kill an enemy before you get throat cut and even then you're fucked against groups which 99% of enemies in this game are
Silenced weapons are either crossbows which have massive penalties against DT or 5mm which are fucking useless

>>389292089
The companions were all fucked up weirdos you'd avoid irl.

>>389295725
I'm so glad they went with her instead of bringing back the obvious choice of Kana Rua. His sister is much better.

>>389293693
>People shit on POE, but you really need to read a lot to learn the setting, which a huge part of the story.

This makes it a badly written game.

>>389297590
>389297590
I did anon, while posting on here. I listen to all 75 minutes of it and IM PROUD OF IT! I find it no different than listening to some one analyze a book and revealing things about it I might not have catched.

>>389298059
kys

>>389297809

So Dark Souls has a piece of shit story?? Video games are not books my friend, I think its vary acceptable to make it so you have the plot and setting co exist and be experience able in numerous combinations vs a book that should tell you directly it's setting. Or the character therefore its your job to find things out. This isn't a book where you watch someone else do your work for you.

>>389298275
Man, my spelling and grammar was shit. I'm sorry everyone. Desu.

It's the best RPG we've gotten in a long time, which is a bad sign

>>389295458
But of course the only have his quest be resolved in part 2.

>>389297809
not necessarily, verbose perhaps

>>389273056
i like turn based combat but it seems way too overused nowadays

i feel real time (with pause) has lots of untapped potential, being so uncommmon these days both in RPGs and among strategy games

>>389298430

What? You didn't like Skyrim or Fallout 4?

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>>389298954
fuck off todd

>>389298430
>>389299035
What even are your favorite rpgs?

>250+ reply PoE thread
Nice

>>389254569
Boring

>>389254908
did codex make fun of you or something

>>389297718
They're suppose to be adding romance options into 2 right? I think one of the stretch goals they achieved was deeper companion relationships.

I hope Maia isn't a lesbian.

>>389297680
Everyone who has ever lived has been a weirdo. I'm weird as fuck and so is everyone I know, it comes with being human.

>>389301023
So deep

>>389254569

Twas pretty fine until that last third when it just shits the bed with a plot twist out of nowhere, one that has such far-reaching implications and meaning that it would take a whole arc of the game to feel the consequences fully, but is instead crammed into the last 10 minutes of the game.

Still had a lot of fun though.

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>>389301401
Thanks

Defiance Bay is soooooooooo boring, I hope I don't have to dick around in this city for long

I also wish this game had a fast mode for combat, fucking stupid that only movement does

>>389300913
Yeah. Me too

>>389303205
One of the few good things Tyranny does is it adds fast mode for combat. Hope it's on Deadfire too.

>>389301540
I wonder how many times you'll be able to reveal the truth about the gods in Deadfire. You do start as the same character that finished the events of the first game, so you know the big reveal. Can you just go around telling everyone? Will anyone even care?

>>389300764
Why do you say that? Underrail is on the top and it's a Codex venture.

>>389254569
I really, really wanted to like it since it's basically bg3 with a lot of the same creators, but it's just tumblr trash. They put MMO mechanics in my beloved iso rpg's.

I tried to give it an honest play-through all the same, but I couldn't do more than about half the game, if I had to guess. It has this weird difficulty, like, I play on hard and I have to be careful for every battle, but once I am careful, they just take a lot of time. There's only a few where I either don't know the trick or don't have the right abilities (like against those weird dryad things in the woods near the big city). I just really don't like the mechanics, the theme, or it's sensibilities.

On the plus side, I discovered Underrail not too long ago, so while I may not get my bg3, I did get my fallout 3.

>>389304128
What is tumblr about it?

>>389304128
>They put MMO mechanics
Like what?

>>389304376
Like what?

>>389254569
bump

>>389263147
I think i can actually justify that beyond the muh diversity stuff. It just portrays a society which has degenerated into such a state due to war. And also due to the war there is now a shortage of males so that's what compelled those ladies to go heretic

>>389254569
>Path of Exile out for years
>people start writing POE while meaning Pillars
I've never played it, never even looked at a screenshot but I hate it and shitpost its threads every so often.

>>389297679
>>389297679
I played through with a crossbow sniper and I steamrolled the whole game on hard/oddity. I started a new game as a sledge juggernaut, hard/oddity, and while I'm not doing depot A yet, the game is hilariously easy. Only the psybugs give me any trouble, and even then only if I let more than two gang up on me.

>>389306197
>Path of Exile out for years
Depends on what you mean by "out." Path of Exile didn't fully release until after Pillars was in development, but Path of Exile obviously had closed alphas and betas before then.

>>389306812
The open beta was January of 2013, they didn't wipe the default leagues at release and nobody talked about pillars then.

>>389270397
good taste, probably the only one that played it.

>>389254908
holy shit
this is the only tier list I've ever seen that I actually agree with 100%

>>389307079
lolwat
That was literally right after Pillars had (at the time) the most successful vidya crowdfunding campaign ever and they announced the name Pillars of Eternity. There was lots of talk.

>>389307535
No there wasn't. There was concept art.

>>389307863
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/12/10/mega-impressions-obsidians-pillars-of-eternity/
Damn, they have some incredibly good concept artists then. The "concept art" in that article from December 10, 2013 looks like it's straight out of the game. A screen shot, even!

>>389291812
https://www.paradoxplaza.com/news?aid=paradox-obsidian-expansion-tyranny

We're getting an expanded third act, more voice acting and an entire new path, bringing the total up to 5

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>>389254908
Post the superior one instead.

>>389270397
They managed to make turn based combat shit for other reasons than rng. I mean the combat itself, not the whole crisis event. It was fun to bitch slap a hostile into senses in the middle of fighting. Also Bloom was cool and disgusting. Overall a 6/10 interactive book

>>389254569
Is this game sjw or not sjw? I hear alot of conflicting opinions.

>>389311171
Have you tried playing a game for what it is you dumb redditor?

>>389309845
whats a blobber?

>>389311171
>muh sjw

look nigga even if it was, this is one of the dumbest reasons to not play a game

if people can appreciate the merits of the birth of a nation despite the fact its a film idolizing the KKK, then you sure as hell should be able to play a game made by a liberal

you need to learn to separate the artist from the art

besides theres hardly anything sjw in PoE, just some fantasy CRPG

>>389311595
Where you control a whole party from a first person perspective that moves as a "blob".

>>389311171
Venetian niggers

>>389311171
look at these attitudes:
>>389311553
>>389311595
and you have your answer

dozens or templars?

>>389312480
What?

>>389254569
Painfully average, and it could have been so much better.

>>389303675
Why would you why would it even matter in this situation?