Biggest disappointment of the year?

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STOP TALKING ABOUT IT IT'S NOT OUT ON CONSOLES YET

Nah, it's been fun for me. It's just overpriced.

It's for XCom 2, so that was pretty much a given.

I don't know what is the problem, but it also seems that people who complain about it don't either. Only shit spouting about the 30-40 eurodollaridoos pricetag and that's it. It's the expansion for XCOM 2. That's it. It expands the base game and if you like the game, you find value in it. I find it refreshing that we have an honest to god expansion packs from time to time instead of shallow DLCs. I miss MECs from EW, but I'm still having fun.

Of course the fun is only artificial and I have a shit taste. Also remember to insert shit eating/food analogy :^)

>>389250349
No, thats gonna be divinity 2.

>4 turn timer mission

Ok I didn't hate these stupid fucking things before but there is no way this shit is winnable without massive risks 1 month in

thank god you can double their length now

fuck firaxis

It's fuckin' great imo

Can you play this without starting a new game? already finished xcom 2 and theres no way im starting a new game for this.

>>389251456
>already finished x-com
How would you play the expansion if you already won the war you fucking retard.

What is ME:A? What is DOW3?

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>Tier 3 weapons

>>389251456
what do you expect to happen if you've already beaten the game? go on, im genuinely curious what your peanut brain has come up with.

>>389252042
a whole new chapter of course
is that so fucking hard concept to think about

>>389250349
Yeah, glad I didn't pre-order.

It's just a mod pack ultimately, can't believe they didn't add a new campaign.

>>389252121
>the world is united anti-xeno under the flag of Xcom
>Elders think, alright NOW is the time to send 3 dudes to get them
Cool chapter

>>38925212
>expecting xcom 3 from an xcom 2 expansion
yup, waiting for the reply from a dipshit like you was worth it, thanks you've served your purpose. you can kys now

>>389251456
>already finished xcom 2 and theres no way im starting a new game for this

XCOM isn't some cinematic setpiece shooter retard. You're supposed to do multiple playthroughs and that's exactly what the DLC caters for

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>>389252203
>It's just a mod pack ultimately,
Nice lie.
It has enough content where they ALMOST considered making it XCOM 3.

It added 30 hours of gameplay for me so no.

>>389252251
Make it like Independence Day Refusion

>>389251994
To be fair, no one expected ME:A to be good.

>>389250349
You're really desperate for this meme to take off, aren't you? It was good, deal with it.

>>389252452
Look I like the expansion, but there's no way it's worth 40.

>>389252452
Why shill with lies?

There is no new campaign at all, everything it adds could easily be mods.

Unless you are the kind of player happy to play the same game again with some asset changes this isn't for you.

>>389251341
You know you can increase the timer easily in those missions right?

When is the GOTY version with all the stuff bundled together coming out?

>>389251341
You know you should just shoot the 2 health psi batteries right? They give you one turn if shot.

>>389252948
It's been 18 months since the release of XCOM 2 yet nothing comes close to what WotC does to the game

>>389252948
>new mission types
>new strategic layer mechanics
>new classes
>new enemies
>some asset changes

>>389250349
Will wait when I get more money and when it gets cheaper.

Now I'm buying a new rig and waiting for all the Total War: Warhammer stuff I bought.

>playing legendary ironman
>lost my best dudes and best gear in the assassin stronghold assault last night
>35 hours down the fucking drain

I have half a mind to just not even bother with it again.

>>389250349
When a fucking Rabbids game managed to outshine it in every single way? Yes, yes it fucking is.

>>389251456

>aliens btfo, avenger landing at the planetwide celebration party
>suddenly three chosen jump out of nowhere
>commander summons avatar avatar like a stand

>>389253225
>Now I'm buying a new rig
Oh shit I almost forgot. I was gonna upgrade like 3 months ago but parts were expensive because of mining fags.

Are they back to normal?

>>389253181
>>389253195
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3kiO_3r33o&list=PLHQyGGzRHYIafDB0sVIa9zugpETLMB4Dr

>every "what went wrong" thread for this game turns into a thread just discussing tactics and people actually playing the game
really activates my almonds

>>389250349
How come I can't use my old team from the original XCOM 2? It's like the game starts over. I have to redo all my weapons and research.

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>>389250349
>mfw Mario Xcom was better than this

blows my mind they have the nerve to charge $40 for this expansion

the next one will most likely be $60

>>389253482
because you're starting over from the beginning? You can import your character pool though.

>>389252948

thats why over a year later we've got nothing but dress up doll mods

>>389253428
???
What's your point? You barely see anything new in your first hour, hours 2 to 60 are almost entirely full of new stuff

>>389251913
Thought it was just an expansion

>>389253532
>XCOM 3 will most likely be $60
gee

>>389251225
What?
We have a $40 expansion, and we still don't have MECs? What the fuck?
I was considering getting it, but if it doesn't even have MACs, I'm out. I thought it was such a given that they would be added, I haven't even bothered looking it up. Seriously, what the fuck?

>>389252251
Well yeah why is that such a hard thing to understand?
Now I got to basically replay this whole shit game again.

>>389253647
The game adds 3 new classes that are more interesting than mecs ever were instead

>>389253619
In the first hour, you'll at least see one of the new Gatecrasher maps, and Lost and Abandoned, which introduces a bunch of major mechanics.

>>389252468
No it made you replay the same game again.

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The new propoganda center is the best thing ever

>>389253705
Im either baited or there is actually people who hate replay value

>>389253532
it's not even that. Its the same game with new things. Its bullshit.

>>389250349
Nah.

Try again tomorrow though :^)

>>389252452
How on earth would it be Xcom 3? It's the exact same premise, they just added a few things and made some tweaks

Why is /v/ so goddamn casual?
WotC is easily the best strategy game of the decade

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I love the shipping

>>389253829
Replay value is shit especially if it's the same damm game. Enemy within was the same bullshit.

It's like watching the same movie over and over again. I've already seen it, why would I watch it again?

>>389250349
>X-COM2 actually manages to make an amazing 8/10 expansion pack for once that really makes the game different and revitalizes it from the ground up
>/v/ throws a tantrum again

Nothing ever shines a light in your sad lives, does it?

>>389253737
How about no? More interesting for you maybe, MECs cannot be topped and fuck everyone for not adding them back. I'm out.

>>389251225
This
expansion packs are much better than DLC, I'm tempted to buy it on that premise alone

>>389253647
MECfags are getting annoying
I'll have SPARKS, Reapers, Templars and Skirmishers over a useless quadruple amputee any day of the week

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>>389252948
>>389253880
https://www.pcgamesn.com/xcom-2/xcom-3-war-of-the-chosen

>>389251994

>what is DOW3

it still hurts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_ZgyNoHtjw

>>389254016
it's one autist trying to push a meme. /xcg/ wasn't having it so now he's trying it out on /v/

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>mfw an hecu grunt and black mesa security guard become best friends over killing ayys

It's like poetry.

>>389250349
That honor belongs to my son.

>>389250349
>Biggest disappointment of the year?

Your shitpost

I don't fucking care about XCOM2. Just give me my Terror from the Deep remake.

>>389254000
Then dont buy or play it? If you feel that way
>I've already seen it, why would I watch it again?
If you enjoyed it, apparently you didnt

Its amazing but the chosen stronghold is tedious as fuck. I reduced the regeneration rate in the .ini because having to fight the cunt assassin every 2 turns whike being charged by Zerkers was fucking dumb.

Shit doesn't even launch for me lmao.

>>389253407
Dunno. In my case people are constantly buying cards as if there was no tomorrow. Now I have a GTX 1080 Strix Advanced, while originally I wanted a slightly cheaper model.

I tell you this is irritating. Not to mention the prices swinging up and down. Currently my current rig and the stuff listed in him are complete and cheap, but it's a matter of time until this will change.

>>389253647
We have SPARKS who fill up this role.

Also we have three new classes/factions you can recruit into XCOM (Reapers that may or may not be Stalkers with a love for guerilla warfare and claymores, Skirmishers that are ADVENT rogue super soldiers that fight for humans and against their past by being one-man armies, and the Templars who are unique psychic warriors with psi-blades and some shenanigans up their sleeves), six new types of enemies and the eponymous Chosen who will try to get to you and drag you back to the Ethereals while raping the shit out of your soldiers.

>>389254249
*your wifes son

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>>389250349

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>>389254129
Are you dumb?

>designer says 'it was going to be xcom 3' as a way of signalling 'pls buy it it's big'
>zero explanation of how it would be xcom 3 when it's the same campaign, same base, same geoscape etc with some things added on

>>389254118
That's because you have terrible taste.

>>389254449
>doubting Jake
Sad little shitposter

>>389250349
Kek, I've been playing it nonstop for a week and I'm still hype as fuck.

It's the biggest expansion pack I've ever seen by far, so it's added some much needed diversity to my campaigns.

>>389250349
Firaxis have a really fucking terrible design philosophy when it comes to XCOM.

They think that just adding more enemies with more health suddenly make progression interesting, rather than adding aliens with different utlities which require a range of strategies to deal with.

I honestly thought they'd bucked the trend when the Sectoid became a caster unit, but literally everything after that just gets like five actions a turn with 20 health points and armour.

Lategame on higher difficulties is more about killing an enemy before they get their first turn rather than actually coming up with interesting strategies.

If they ever add in a mod that lets me make a dual-wielding Revolver "Revolver Ocelot" Ocelot as a sniper i'll be all over it. I really don't see it being possible, though. That seems to be far too complex for the mods i've seen, which are mostly just reskins or custom classes with fuckbusted abilities. I did remember someone saying they were working on NCR Ranger armor sets, though, which makes my dick hard.

>>389253782
It managed to make it a lot of fun so it still added 30 hours of gameplay.

>>389254643
You mean how every enemy got a better kit of abilities compared to the limited EU/EW counterparts?
What you are describing falls more in line with LW1/2 where every enemy turns into nothing but a big HP pool to chew through. Have you actually played the fucking game?

>>389254559
>its almost Xcom 3 guys!
>it's not even standalone expansion

ayylmao

>>389254449
>posting pure shit
I bet you are posting this from a fucking cell phone too.

>>389253016
in a years time probably.

>>389254746
Dual wielding would require new animations
Besides, why not just use normal gunslinger? They are already quite broken

>>389254746
I think the Ranger armor mod is already up and running for WOTC

>/v/ has shit taste and falls for the boar meme
Nothing surprising

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So does the expansion fix some of the issues with the original XCOM2 or is it still tryhard pandering nonsense with a busted interface? Loved the release interface where I couldn't differentiate between producing tech upgrades and consumables.

>>389254990
>XCOM 3 nearly happened instead of War of the Chosen
Article name

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>Download the game
>About to start it up
>Remember all boring early game shit
>Remember skulljack mission which is incredibly risky
>First time you meet codex
>Unninstall

>>389254262
the ending teases some pacific rim shit with a portal opening at the bottom of the pacific ocean, so ... maybe?

>>389255115
>Remember skulljack mission which is incredibly risky
What?
The Arc Thrower was WAY more dangerous
Skulljack always had a 70% chance

>>389254746
>>389255013
You can add custom animations, so it's perfectly doable. There are mods that add new aliens (not texture swaps) and new items with unique mod-created animations.

Honestly, with how easy mo-cap is becoming I'm surprised we don't see more mod-created animations. Maybe cleanup is insanely hard to learn or something.

>>389255115
>Skulljacking
>Risky

Arc Thrower was the real risk.

Skulljacking is less risky and much more fun. Not to mention that there is a chance of you triggering a bug that causes you soldiers to skulljack enemy ADVENT soldiers through the crotch.

>>389255013
I know. I just got rock hard when they initially showed them using revolvers as their pistols and the gunslinger tree, while I believe weaker than the sniper tree by a long ways, is still really cool.

>>389255029
That's great. Does it change the pistol to a Sequioa? Seq whatever? I haven't played it in forever.

>>389255242
... arc thrower had 90% and was ranged

>>389254129
I acutally cant believe anyone will think this is true. You need to be retarded, like for real, to believe in this.

>>389255557
I think it's just the armor, there's a big weapon pack coming in the next few days though

>>389255557
You believe wrong.

the lost start invading almost all my battles and the advent fight them too
sometimes there are so many they enemy starts acting dumb

>>389255115
>get a free move if the skulljack fails
>can activate run and gun to just shoot the captain if needed
It's only risky if you dash into unrevealed ter6

>>389255557
Gunslinger tree is vastly superior to the Sniper tree, though

although you can just get both now

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>>389254559
>>389254990
>>389254129

>there are actual Firaxis fanboys on /v/

I like how the concept of 'the lost' has no connection to the Chosen. And the propaganda posters aren't connected to anything either.

It's almost like.... they had a bunch of shit they were going to sell as separate small DLCs but they stapled them all together as an expansion pack and then somehow pretended this was going to be Xcom 3

>>389255608
Nope, the chance depended on enemy health, so first you had to wittle the outsider down while taking damage yourself
And it only had range of 3 tiles

Has anyone actually completed the campaign in Legend Ironman? I can barely survive the first two months.

>$40 mod makes the game even harder

Jesus.

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>xcom 3
Re-imagining of Terror from the Deep as the forces from Xcom 2 go into the oceans to hunt down the last of the Advent, only to find, well, terror, from the deep.

Take my money.

>>389255919
Beagle will probably end up Beagle lucking his way through

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>>389256015

>>389255821
It turns xcom 2 into apocalypse lite

>>389255919
I rather play honestman

I wish they'd gotten on with the damn show and did the real XCOM 3 instead of even more teasing of some ancient evil that even the alien Elders are afraid of. That stupid cliffhanger ending from XCOM 2 is still there and now they added even more references to it with the expansion cinematics.

Yes, ancient evil, great. Now let me fight the damn things instead of asking me to play the same damn campaign yet again with some new enemies.

>>389255679
Is that the case? What makes the gunslinger tree so good? I don't own the game since I fully expect a FULLY RELEASED FERNS pack in the future and i'd rather not pirate it if its as fun as it looks. I just won't spend the 100 or so odd buckarinos for the game and all the DLC.
>>389255747
As I said above. I thought everyone said that sniper wins out due to Killzone or Killshot or something, where you have the ability to slaughter at will off of Overwatch or something of the sort.

>>389255919
>Ironman
>In a game known for occasional game breaking bugs, especially when a new DLC hits

You are asking to get fucked in the ass with that.

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>>389255821
>It's almost like.... they had a bunch of shit they were going to sell as separate small DLCs but they stapled them all together as an expansion pack
Not that fag but you say this like it's a bad thing.

>>389250349
What"s the issue? When ever I see a thread about this I always hear how the DLC fixes all the issues.

>>389256217
Killzone is nice, but it's basically used once or twice a mission because of a long-ass cooldown

a Gunslinger can solo Sectopods with Bluescreen Rounds, spread conditions to every visible enemy with Faceoff, and can actually move and shoot.

>>389256217
Gunslinger can shoot 5 times at one round (though not every), giving it one of the best burst damages. Also they are accurate, good for close and far and lot more adaptaiable than snipers.

>>389255821
man the main complaint with dlcs is that they dont do this anymore

>>389256646
Relentless shitposter of /xcg/, baiter of anons. Now he stalks /v/ in hopes of easier prey.

I like it so far, I just wish the assassin wasn't so fuck off broken.

> Can move twice as far as my rangers
> Knocks my cunts out
> Dashes back, and hits overwatch.

I mean, Christ, at least make it so she can't move as far after running out and spanking someone.

>>389256650
>>389256675
Why is that? I know bluescreen rounds either do extra damage to mechanical units or somesuch but soloing seems really strong. Is it just due to high end pistols being that good? Apparently the pistol from the hunter is crazy damn good.

>>389251335
I find the hard to believe. We already have the first 8 hours of the game and it's great.

>>389257021
the first 8~ hours of Div OS 1 were good too

then the rest of the game happened

>>389252948
So that's why it took almost a year and a half for anything worthwhile to come from modding besides cosmetics? Shit the mini dlcs they released before WotC had more substantial content than 99% of the mods on the workshop and it was better balanced than half of the gameplay mods too.

Shit the last "This is What Modding Can Do" project was Long War 2, and it released with so many flaws that beagle and /xcg/ dropped it when they both circlejerk LW1

>>389257015
>Lightning Hands for one shoot
>Fanfire for another three shoots
>round it out with a fifth shoot
minimum 8 damage a shot, Sectopods have 40 health on legendary

>>389257015

The thing is, blue screen rounds add a flat 5 damage to every hit, so if five shots are hitting, that's an extra 25 damage assuming that all 5 shots hit. The base pistol damage is around 25 for five shots if the armor is shredded, so gunslingers can potentially do 50 damage in one turn, enough to kill a sectopod even on Legendary.

>>389257229
>Rulers
>balanced

>>389255983
>xcom 3
>opens with you winning xcom 2 campaign
>then the VR disconnects
>turns out there was no alien war. no ADVENT
>bradford had the commander running simulations if they ever needed to fight with guerrilla warfare
>when suddenly TftD

>xcom 4 shows THAT was just a simulation too

>>389257241
Wrong order?
Doesn't fan fire end your turn?

>>389250349
Don't be a dick, suck a bitch

>>389250694
>consoles

It's ok, you don't count as a gamer. Or a person.

>Female elite soldier
>Black scientist
Immersion lost!

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Dreamland Chronicals when?
Seems like we need the Gollop brothers back to fix the genre.

>>389250349
>literally the same campaign

Any non-jewish company would have released this """""""""""""expansion"""""""""""""""" as a free update instead of being mega jews and ask 40 bucks for it, nothing in it justifies that price tag. Locking performance and loading time improvements behind a paid expansion is scummy as hell. Fuck you Firaxis, or 2K rather.

>>389257392
nope, Faceoff does, but not Fanfire

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>>389250349
classic still the best

>>389257004
To be fair, once you fight the Warlock and the Hunter, you will miss the Assassin, the other two are fucking losers.

The Assassin is an actual threat.

>>389257335
They were better balanced than half of the gameplay mods on the workshop.

The quality of the workshop for anything but dress up and voice packs was shoddy and disappointing at best.

>>389257605
Enemy Within was $40 at launch on consoles

>>389257586
Wait for Phoenix Point. It's like Firaxis's XCOM, but with enemies that mutate on the run, vehicles and what if Lovecraft jizzed all over it to make it really creepy.

>>389257736
does it use the pod mechanic, though? that's my biggest turn off in nu-xcom.

>>389257736
>Wait for a crowd-funded game.

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>mfw my big dick Gunslinger shot 8 enemies in a single attack and killed all of them
>Two MECs, Advent Captains and Stun Lancers and an Archon

I'm surprised the attack hit the Archon, that thing usually dodges everything. Holy shit the Chosen base is fun as fuck, I opened a door and four Berserkers charged out at me.

>>389257672
>all that effort put into a game about the video game equivalent of the Minions

Whats with the greed thugh, this should of been $20. Why burn your fanbase like this?

>>389251225
advent is fucking boring and bland but 80% of enemies
the story is overly complex and nonsensical

>>389253353
>playing le meme mode
it's your own fault. If I had played ironman I would have lost my squads to countless bugs already. who in their right mind does that

>>389258039
Minions were made after.

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>>389250349

What is this meme?

>>389258167
>story is overly complex
>there are aliens
>shoot them
>also they have some plan
>stop their plan
>by shooting them

>>389257630
That doesn't sound right considering how powerful the ability is.

>>389258330
yeah man i just cant follow it
like what even is an 'alien'
i dont know guys

>>389258330
not even going to bother blowing you out, you're being retarded on purpose kys

>>389255851
>first you had to wittle the outsider down while taking damage yourself

oh yeah, dealing 4 damage in one round is so fucking hard.

>>389258267
Then the minions are the movie equivalent of Rabbids, both are literal cancer.

>>389258376
I guess the reasoning is you're only aiming at one target, just pulling the trigger two extra times

>>389257495
So sick of this sjw bullshit in games.

>>389258467
Nah. Did you play Mario + Rabbids?

>>389258376
Speaking in theory you could hit, what, 30+ enemies with faceoff? That seems worthy of ending a turn.

>>389258459
sorry you couldn't follow the deep and complex plot of fucking XCOM, anon

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>>389258330

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>>389258459
Not him, but sure, please tell us what is so overly complex about the campaign of XCOM2?

>>389258459
Oh please attempt to "blow anon out" you fucking faggot.

>>389258561
>>389258625
>>389258681
And now we wait for the shitposter to say "easiest bait of my life" or some other bullshit.

$40 really isn't a fair asking price for an expansion pack.

>>389257004
>>389257692
I've never had trouble with the assassin
>she moves towards my guys from off the map, the camera reveals her rough location
>throw a scanner
>kill her in 3 attacks with sniper, grenadier and ranger

This is every encounter so far. I've had more trouble with the hunter, since mine has automatic overwatch and vengeance, so I have to run a ranger up and melee him or throw a nade if I want to get anywhere near him.

>>389258795
Depend on the content.

>>389258739
easiest bait of my life

>>389258554
>in theory
ain't just a theory anymore with the Lost

>>389258903
it would have to be pretty much a whole new game for that to be reasonable

>>389258998
Go check this review.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32TMPpm6HVk

>>389258898

The hunter has been a joke to me. He usually spends his whole turn preparing for that aimed shot which just means I have to move one guy I probably would've moved anyway.

>>389257096
Original sin has a terrible early game what are you talking about anon

>stupid murder plot
>front loaded bullshit about void and shit
>no good fights

The game gets good towards the end of act 1, then begins fizzling out when you hit lvl ~15

>>389259095
>15 minute video
I will not

>>389250349
how the fuck is it a disappointment? it's great

>>389258459
BLOW IT OUT YOUR ASS

>>389259247
>Cannot watch a 15 minute in depth review of a 40$ potential purchase

What do you have better to do? Hell, just play it in the background, you dont really need the video.

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>mfw pirated

>>389259356
The thing is $40 purchases are also not worth 15 minutes of consideration to me.

>>389255821
yes, because we all know expansion packs have to only focus on one thing and nothing else.

>>389259159
that part isn't a problem unless he forces you to run a guy into a new pod. He usually stops that and tries to flank you with the grapple when you get within his movement range though.

Hew BTFO'd me on the first resistance defense, when I only had 4 squaddies, he sat on a roof and took potshots and whenever I tried to shoot at him he'd vengeance right back and fuck my guy up. Trying to flank with ranger just made him grapple into a better position.

I lost 2 good men on that mission ;_; 7

>>389259672
If 40$ is not worth 15 min of research, then you either make 160$ and hour or are just not interested in the game, or just dont have the 40$ either way.

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>>389258278

What (who) is THAT meme?

Why do people want MECs to return, SPARKS fill the role well enough, even if they're a bit underpowered compared to the other classes? Honestly they needed a bit more of a buff in WotC when normal soldiers get to use AP, but mods exist. It's honestly way better than having to level up a soldier to Colonel and having wait a few days for him to become a cyborg, plus they can get mind controlled.

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>>389259672
>my time is too valuable for this shit
>has spent the past 4 hours shitposting on a Gambian doll-knitting forum

>>389252996
>>389253038

>B-b-b-bb-b-b-b-bb-b-but you can extend the timer!!!!
>by revealing yourself and wasting the timer

good design

>>389256383
>>389256794
>>389259704

It's pretty dumb to make an expansion that's just a grab bag of lots of small things, then try and say that it could have been X com 3, when that's clearly not the case

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>>389258795
Especially considering how small WOTC actually is. Pic related was 20 bucks. A more appropriate price for WOTC would have been 10 bucks, 15 bucks max.

>>389259863
Anime fags want their gundams

>>389259863
I want my amputee waifus back.

>>389260063
Why? EW did the same exact thing.

>>389260018
4 hours shitposting > watching youtube reviews

>>389260071
But Xcom actually has good gameplay and isn't a movie.

>>389250349
It's good though. Whether it's worth full price is very much questionable, but if you liked XCOM2 to begin with it literally just makes everything better.

If you didn't like XCOM2 then this won't change your mind, but why would you be interested in a content expansion for a game you don't like anyway?

>expansion pack to (((Jacob Solomon))) game is $40
Dammit goyed again

>Nintenbros starting shit because they have an inferiority complex
Very interesting.

>>389259863
But muh quadruple amputee fetish

>>389258278
It's an old meme called "/v/ hates everything that isn't a Sony exclusive".

>>389260020
>game design is based cause I'm based at it.

these missions were in the first one too. This has to be bait.

>>389253705
This has to be bait.

>>389260020
What are you trying to say, idiot?

>>389259863

The problem is that sparks really dont fill in the role that well compared to mecs. In every way they are weaker and instead of being something unique with new abilities and tactics they just become a specialist that cant hack and a grenadier that doesnt do as much damage. In a game where resources are limited you just never build a single one of them.

>>389260020
I guess people who hate xcom are literally retards too.

>>389260305
Debatable. Nu-Xcoms have a lot of infuriating design choices and the inaccurate accuracy procents are always dumb.

>>389260765
What leads you to believe the percentages are inaccurate?

>>389260020
>complains about timer
>people say how to increase the timer
>BUT IT CLASHES WITH HOW I PLAY

Risk management is a big thing in Xcom 2. Maybe this game is not for you.

>>389257438
but minecraft is best on exbox 1 x

>>389260893
Not knowing how statistics work. It isn't a very good game though, desu.

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>>389260745
That's not news.

>I MISSED AN 80% SHOT HOW IS THIS EVEN POSSIBLE FUCK THIS CHEATING GAME

>>389260765
>inaccurate accuracy procents
If anything the game cheats in your favor on lower difficulties
What you see is what you get, don't be swayed by your confirmation bias

>>389260504

The plasma bomb missions in 1 didn't have a 4 turn timer AND you didn't lose your turn/ammo shooting them. They were also packed with limp wristed thin men

>>389261118
they also had nodes where you could extend the timer.

Just like shooting the things in WotC

>>389261118

You must have played on normal or easy. Thin men would absolutely wreck your shit early on harder difficulties. I still have nightmares about them one shoting my best people from behind full cover. Fuck thin men.

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>mfw using Faceoff with my Sharpshooter while standing in the middle of a huge horde of Lost

>>389251225
Funny that you say that. Xcom had some pretty shitty dlc before the expansion.

>>389260765
>inaccurate accuracy percentages
A 99% will still has a chance of missing 1% of the time.

>>389260191
EW didn't have interviews where they were saying it could have been Xcom 3, giving the impression that it's this big standalone thing rather than just 'here's how we would it if we could remake Xcom 2'

>Played XCOM Enemy Within a year or so after it came out, had the time of my life
>Had to wait two years for XCOM 2, going off breadcrumbs of information, but it finally came out
>Want the the ultimate XCOM 2 experience, with all of the DLC, still holding out on playing
>Had to wait 8 or so months months before all of the DLC came out, it's disappointing
>THIS CAN'T BE THE END
>Still holding out, hoping one more DLC pack would come out like with Enemy Within
>Fucking deliverance
>Had to wait a year until WotC came out, pretty much out of nowhere, and it's fantastic
>It's like 80 USD for everything, including WotC and the previous DLC
>Still holding out for that winter sale, probably spring sale for a good price

Fuck, it hurts.

>>389252948
Are you retarded? It's an expansion of course its the same game again.

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>>389260893
Several developers have written about this. A lot of games actually cheat in the players favor on percentages, so when a player is confronted with actual, real RNG they often feel that it is unfair or rigged.

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>do a horde loss mission
>Hunter decides today is the day to fuck my shit up
>just start tossing ultrasonic lures at him while I run away with the VIP
>Nearly 40 fucking lost on the screen bringing my cozy 50fps down to a stuttering 20
>They all crowd around him and is summoned Mech
>Laugh as they slowly kill him
This game is well fucking worth it in my opinion

>>389258969
N-Nani?!

>>389261937
But why should we reward stupidity? Fucking capitalism, every time.

>>389261937
XCOM2 also cheats in the player's advantage on any difficulty below Veteran.

IIRC for every shot above 50% it gives you a 20% invisible bonus by default, plus another 15% bonus per soldier you lost during that mission.

>>389254000
Its a SRPG not an uncharted game. There's more tothe game than the story.

i also like to pretend the 1% doesn't exist in my shots

>>389252948
Proper integration and polish makes all the difference when comparing an official release to mods.

>>389252948
I hope that you know that everyone hates you.

Are rulers still the same broken piece of trash as they were in vanilla?

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So what are you doing: diving right in or waiting for mods?

>>389263580
Just about.
Though reloading doesn't trigger them anymore and also if they don't see the acting soldier.

>>389263580

yes

>>389263580
Yeah. And if you tell the game to integrate the DLC they guard facilities instead of you having to do the Viper King nest so you can't purposely ignore the mission to lock them out of the game.

>>389263580

You can cheese them with snipers now, they don't get ruler reaction if they can't see the person taking action. Also Reaper has an ability where they shoot at a target until they run out of ammo, combine that with +3 ammo weapon upgrade and watch the ruler melt.

>>389261635
Trust me, even for people who started with EW, you'll want to play 2 vanilla before WOTC. Usually the "full experience " bundles end up cheaper then getting it all separately on sale, but it's easy to both get overwhelmed with the expansion, both mechanic wise, and storywise, casually spoiling the entire plot of the vanilla game within the first hour.

>>389261979

You could also edit the game files so they target advent more if you really want some good laughs. Shit like you said though make the game enjoyable as fuck.

>>389259806
if you spend most of your time making money you shouldn't waste all your free time thinking about how to spend it goy

>>389264320
So WotC spoils the vanilla story early on? That's kind of disappointing. I've read up on the mechanics and such, and I'm fairly confident I won't have much of a problem when it comes to gameplay.

>>389265154

Its not that it spoils it. its that baseline xcom 2 is a bit overwhelming at first. And this gets further compounded in wotc. You have a shit ton of stuff flying at your face right off the bat especially if you leave the wotc storymode on, which you want in the very first time youre playing because it introduces the new things in its own tutorial fashion, but still. Play baseline xcom, you dont even really need to beat it but go at it until you feel comfortable or have plasma weapons unlocked. Beat the game if you want, but only THEN play wotc.

What exactly are The Chosen?

It seems like they are modded humans.

>>389265765
yeah, they are just super modded humans. Warlock talks sit about why he can't belive that he use to belong to such a shitty race.

>>389265154
Its played straight for the most part, with just the right amount of fan service and anime tier wish fulfillment, dialed to 11 with the straight outta animu chosen.
But the origin of the chosen, as well as some casual random faction dialogue can spoil major plot points.
Honestly adjusting to the new enemy behaviors and timers was tough enough coming from EW anyways, I couldn't imagine having to deal with the chosen for the first time too.
Lastly the dlc have two lengthy story missions that can be disabled, and the expansion has another, so if you're playing all three for the first time in a row, it's quite overwhelming.

>>389265765
sick of fighting modded humans and human spliced aliens in this game
please jake more proper aliens

>>389265926
okay.

because I am watching a guy stream WotC (he killed the assassin) and holy crap they added so much stuff.

but the Chosen fucking with you all the time and Lost Randomly showing up in normal missions make it seem annoying

I enjoyed it. But Assassin Chosen is fucking horseshit if you meet her first. Lost are bullshit early on, especially if there's the Assassin raping you and lol the Lost don't attack the enemy.

I ended up researching everything before finishing it. I made my Templar a super mobility unit, like 20 mobility default, when she got Reaper she ran around pew pewing.

I just want XCOM3 which is obviously Terror From The Deep.

>>389266016
I heard that many of the timers were removed or adjusted for WotC, but the timed missions in EW were some of my least favorite since I had to rush through them. I played EW on Ironman Classic as my first playthrough, and I'm probably just going to jump into Ironman Legend (or Bronzeman) on WotC. But I played EW pretty much blind, unlike WotC where I've read up on what to do and how to progress.
>>389265682
The problem is that the base game can take something like 40+ hours to finish, and I don't have that kind of time if I also plan to play WotC. It's going to be all or nothing.

>>389250349
It's not bad, but in retrospect I wouldn't have got it.

$40 is steep as hell for this.

>>389267064
I'll wait for the Christmas discount I finished Xcom for the first time early.

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>fixed the performance issues, everything loads quickly and a constant 60+ framerate
>a lot of new maps and variety of maps as well as mission types
>Lost are a fun mechanic to abuse by siccing them on ADVENT goons and even the Chosen
>Chosen themselves are fun to fight against even if they can be bullshit at times
>all of those fixes and adjustments to getting skills and ranks
>bonding system can make for super-strong couples
>Alien Rulers now have a purpose instead of being random encounters and were fixed
>plethora of other things

More like one of the best things to happen this year.

>>389255983
isn't that what julian's game supposed to be? I forget the name of it but the original xcom dev is basically making a nu-xcom styled game where you fight aliens crossed with sealife

>>389258039
Actually thae game's pretty good
put's it's own style in things, the rabbids are a lot less scream-y and annoying as shit, and the director took his shit seriously

>>389259863
I wanna punch shit

>>389269164
Project Phoenix?

>>389261937
>>389262197
Fire emblem did this shit too

>>389268110
fuckin' buff soldier modd, christ

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>>389269848
Strong soldiers win wars.

>>389270395
is there a buff female soldier mod?

>>389266892

Sounds like you already made up your mind, why arent you just doing what you know youre going to do? Stop seeking other's approval.

>>389269638
Yeah, that.
Seems pretty cash.

>>389258618
kek, based shen calling out /v/ autists

>>389270456
Unfortunately no, just nude ones. No Amazons or Zaryas or simply fit ladies.

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Am I doing something wrong here
I start up a new game in the expansion pack and by the second mission its my 4 recruits with absolutely nothing valuable against 20 enemies with a gorillian HP and a timer going down in the background
I dont remember normal xcom 2 didn't start this steep what the fuck is happening

>>389271747
avoid aggroing so many pods at once
invest in an early flashbang if you haven't already

>>389271747
Your squad is also much stronger than in EU. Just use your grenades, get a flash bang or two, and do one pod at a time. Don't worry, your squad very quickley outpaces the enemy's scaling and the game only gets easier.

>>389268110
the fact they didn't bring the performance improvements to the main game is despicable

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>turn the Lost tutorial off
>you start Gatecrasher with a Templar, Skirmisher or Reaper

UMA DELICIA

>>389273649
It is depressing, but the performance fixes were from pretty much redoing the game's engine and a shitload of optimizing, which isn't something that can be done as a simple patch. You can also select vanilla XCom 2 from the startup screen if you want it play it without the WOTC content. Really, 40 bucks is small potatoes for how mcuh WOTC brings and how much it fixes vanilla XCom 2.

>>389250349
>Biggest disappointment
>Pic is not alien ruler dlc

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>I'm enjoy WOTC so far
>I sure do hope they fixed some of the more bullshit moments like 6+ aliens spawning on top of the beacon you have to defend
>Let's see if they did!

>Defend the beacon mission
>Spawn on one edge of the map
>Run towards becon
>Alien turn
>Theres a fucking SECTOPOD ALREADY FUCKING HITTING THE BEACON

I mean, i managed to save the beacon and only because i RAN REALLY FUCKING HARD and had a disposable Resistance Soldier and lots of Mimic Beacons to draw out the fire to distract the fucking Sectopod when the Beacon had only 2 fucking HP left.

Fucking bullshit missions

>>389275602
>>389275804
Honestly these beacon ones are a lot more annoying/frustrating than the timed ones since it's a crapshoot of what you get hitting it.

>>389274052
You should never count 'fixes' as being part of the price. The amount of content WOTC isn't $40 worth, wtf kind of standard are you using? It's a $20 expansion at best, 2K just overcharges to shit.

>>389260020
If you really hate the timers so much, there's an "advanced option" to double all timer lengths when starting a new game.

Means you're a total scrub, though.

>>389277412
Well, I'm not poor, so 40 bucks is nothing.

>>389277735
Whether you can afford it or not is irrelevant to whether it's a relatively small asking price for what content it adds. Compared to most expansions on the market WOTC is definitely overcharging considering its level of content.

>>389278041
Having fun with it, don't care.

>>389278041
Firaxis has always overcharged. I played through Enemy Within for the first time last week (previously I had only played through the base Enemy Unknown) and while the additions were nice, I didn't feel like it was a new experience. It had nothing that couldn't have been a regular patch. Now I only paid 2,5 bucks for it but to my understanding it was like 30 or 40 bucks new which is an absurdly high price for the content you get.

>>389255821
It's shills.
They run the /vg/ general unironically.
They shill workshop only mods kvetching "workshop is the future goy better buy our game" and telling you to buy it all the time and in their OP pastas.

did they fix the thing where dark VIPs wouldnt draw characters from the pool even if you designate characters specifically for that?

>>389278752
>>389255821
Tell me about it, /v/ is filled with people who like things I utterly despise, bunch of shit-licking shills constantly talking about everything I hate. If you like anything you're a shill.

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>>389278935

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>>389278667
>be wrong
>w/e idc

>>389277412
While I agree its over charged, I would say that theres a considerable amount of content that makes it pretty worthwhile. There seems to be a bunch of additional missions types, as well as the sitreps helping randomize even normal missions more ontop of the more obvious stuff like Chosen and factions.

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this is pretty effay not gonna lie

>>389279219
are those miniature trees around his neck

>>389279219
How come Xcom 2 looks pretty gud graphically but CIV6 looks like total ass?

>>389279363
They both have different artstyles for one

>>389279363
Civ6 wants the wider audience.
Xcom2 also has a plague of technical problems.
The release was an issue holocaust

>>389278704
Yeah I remember buying EW at release like a good goy. It was fun but it wasn't worth the $30 I paid for it. Though these models are designed for maximising profits. Naturally they just choose whatever people are willing to pay for it, and then lower it to a more reasonable price during the sale for the discerning consumers.

>>389255242
The obligatory skulljacks are 70% but will always succeed.

>tfw your gunslinger solos an avatar with fan fire

Jesus Christ it's good to be this powerful

>>389279557
Nope, missed one against the new green tron dude, lost a ranger that way :(

>>389280535
As I've said, obligatory ones (the first time you jack a officer and a codex) will always hit.

>>389275804

That sounds hilarious as fuck. Never had a sectopod firing on the fucking beacon myself but damn.

>>389278704

Are you expecting like a brand new fucking game or something?

>Its a "the lost in every fucking mission for 3 months" episode

>>389250349
The cringey fucking Chosen dialogue is killing this game for me. I know this game isn't about the story but these fuckers just will not shut up, even when I'm in my base. I should at least be able to avoid this shit during gameplay; it's like a constant terrible cutscene that I can't skip.

>>389281524
Then download a mod.

>>389260020
If you have a reaper you can cheese almost every timer to shit since you can just send them ahead to the objective and wait for a good opening.
Not to mention the covert action you can give to the reapers which stops the timers from starting at all until you've been revealed.

Honestly, if the expansion did anything, it's make the missions themselves far too easy with the new class additions.

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When do I unlock the propaganda stuff? When do I see any of the new shit at all?
I see that the armory got updated with the aliens heads hanging on the wall but beyond that, nothing. After the body fuel reveal mission?

>>389282368
Are you using the WoTC launcher? When you boot up the game, you have to choose WoTC on the bottom left hand side, or else it just boots up Vanilla.

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>>389282628
fucking shit god damn

>>389282682
Don't feel bad, plenty of people have made that mistake. Myself included.

>>389281524
So go and shut them up forever.

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>>389281434
>There were only 15 Advent enemies in this mission

I should stop blowing stuff up.

Is there any mod that enables booty shorts for all types of armor?

>>389283140
Most likely.

>>389258158
I think it's mostly because of voice acting. The expansion doubles if not triples the amount of dialogue. And they pulled in a bunch of star trek tng actors because Jake loves the show. It adds up. Plus they spent a lot of time and man hours making it.

And civ isn't selling well.

>>389283140
LL Legs pack has some for women, they copy and pasted all pack items into all three armor tiers, only thing that sucks is it may double your load times

>>389284093
>Chosen have different lines for shit talking X-Com units, Templars, Skirmishers, Reapers, and SPARKs.

I'll admit I like those little details.

>>389284779
Also for other chosen weaponry.

>>389257004
Agreed. I think a mod that changes/nerfs her post slash move would make more sense.
It'd also be better if that was her "pre-engagement" move like the Spectral Zombies and the Tracking Shot and not her main strategy

>>389281254
For the 2/3rd of an AAA title price? Pretty much.

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>>389284562
This is the big thing, using cosmetic mods increases load times and can make the game hiccup or pause for a moment while it loads up the mods. Might not be an issue on an SSD but I don't have one yet.

>>389251341
I really am surprised that Firaxis never implemented the mod that lets you have the timer start once you are revealed

>>389285558
They did in the form of SITREP/resistance order.

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>all those firaxis shills in this thread

jesus you are almost as big bunch of faggots as monster hunter fans

>>389285974
I know, right, who the fuck would like anything I hate unless they were being paid to like it, Jews rule everything man.

>>389286165

then i suppose it's good for you if you like to eat shit and be treated as one by devs
it's not my problem

>>389286165
nobody unironically literally defends a FOURTY DOLLAR dlc that should've been a free update

>>389286309
>waah waah boo hoo big meanieheads hate me

>>389286376
Hey, I'm not poor, so a measly 40 bucks doesn't bother me.

>>389286617

god you are pathetic

>>389250349
NMS is the biggest disappointment but also one of the greatest meme accumulater.

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>>389285974
>If you like something, you are a shill

>>389286617
>i'm not poor so ill just throw 40 bucks away on rancid dogshit that'll show them

>>389286881
Out of all the games that you could complain about, you choose to complain about one of the few good ones?

>>389286750
>>389286881
>muh opinions respect them man I hate this you should too stop ignoring meeeeee

>>389287443

>tfw you will never be such autistic sperg