Alice: Asylum

>EA
lmao no

>>389243685
Can we all agree that Madness Returns was pretty ass? Cool worlds, but terrible, terrible combat and platforming.

>>389243785
I love Alice more than I hate EA. Believe me, I'd be fucking overjoyed if McGee would get literally any other publisher

>EA

no thanks

>>389243685

Fuck off. Why the fuck do they think that they can ask people to donate money so they could then charge us to make more money? Fuck that shit. I can't wait for Shenmue 3 to come out so people would finally realize that Kickstarter is a piece of shit and nothing good will ever come out of it.

>>389243853

Yes.

Best thing to come out of the game is the big ass hard cover art book.

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>crowdfunding a business proposal

>>389243853

I wouldn't have a problem with the combat but the biggest issue was that a lot of the levels were just dragged out for way too long.

>>389243853
if EA didn't force them to rush it it would be 10/10
it's easily 8/10 as it is

>>389243883
>Why the fuck do they think that they can ask people to donate money so they could then charge us to make more money?

At least read the fucking link before you ragepost anon-kun. He doesn't need financial support (although it helps), he needs to show that enough people are interested in a sequel

>>389243853
It was a solid 7,5/10 for me. As the other anon said, it could have been a 9-10/10 if it wasn't rushed

>>389243853
It was, I could barely play it. But even if the issues with it couldn't be ironed out with a less shit development, I still want more Alice though.

I want to FUCK Alice

>>389244190
Same tbqh.

>EA
No. He hasn't learned anything.

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>>389243685
Kickstarter threads need to be banned already
>b-b-but video games!
You're kicking another thread off the board in order to make room for advertisement of a crowdfunding project. It's killing the board by replacing wholehearted discussions with corporate shilling, and you're not even being paid for your marketing work.
Look at what happened when Indivisible was being touted. Half of /v/ was nothing but threads shilling not the game, but the sinkhole to pay for the promise of a game. The Skullgirls general on /vg/ was completely taken over and permanently perverted into a Skullgirls+Indivisible general because the game's developers was pushing for such aggressive marketing.

>>389243954

The crowdfunding is being used as the proof of concept; it will show that there is a big enough market of people who are interested in the product and actually already paid for it in advance.

It's been done by a few games now and a few weren't even indie, they were A-AA level games.

>>389244654
That's even fucking worse

>>389243853
nah, it had amazing worlds, but mediocre combat and pretty lame platforming as well as being too drawn out

>>389243685
Support it? Why? So EA can take my money and turn this game into another shitfest? My apologies to McGee but EA is a scalding piece of shit and I will never support them, and the sooner he detached himself from them forever the better.

>>389243685
Alice is shit and you're all shit for liking her and supporting this garbage.

Kill yourselves you fucking Alicefags.

>>389244792

I agree but as long as people are stupid enough to throw their money at a few screen shots or a 2 minute trailer, there will be people there to catch the money.

What happened to his sister?

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>>389244843
>That water stage

>>389245574
i actually really liked thw water stage. the one that was a bit boring for me was the feudal japan bug empire. didn't really get the aesthetic they were going for. rest of it was awesome though, i pretty much love everything about the art and the characters and the settings.

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>>389245659
dollhouse best world

>>389244557
>wholehearted discussions
>but got so less discussion/activities that it managed to get kicked off of 10 pages of threads
are you retarded???

fuck EA, love Alice tho, the second game's combat and movement were on point, but the level design and the overall feeling and the atmosphere weren't even close to the original. Would love to see a third game tho.

Can't even play the second one because after reading the design document you can SEE the seams where they cut shit out like boss battles or extra levels. You can see the better game behind the scars, like catching a glimpse of awareness on a fucking vegetable.

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>>389243853
It's hard for me to say. Because I don't regret playing it, and I look back at the worlds and atmosphere it had fondly.

But I still remember just hoping that the levels would finally end whenever I actually played it. Like the introduction of each world would be amazing, but eventually things start to repeat themselves to the point of tedium. And then they hype up a boss battle that immediately dies in a cut-scene.

I'd still like to see a sequel, but I really wish that EA wasn't involved.

Oh fuck me, I would love to see new Alice game, but no from EA. After they did what they did to second game, fuck them.

>>389246295
>And then they hype up a boss battle that immediately dies in a cut-scene.
>that crucified baby statue in front of a long sequence of platforming over the abyss in the dollhouse underground
I was expecting a boss battle so hard only for my tension to be met with nothing

>>389243685
>supporting western devs
No thanks.

How much money does it take to get an IP back from EA when they never ever plan to touch it again?

>EA
Jesus it's like you faggots never learn your lesson. You're worse than battered housewives that tell themselves that one day he'll change 5 minutes before he beats her into unconsciousness.

>>389243685
but the alice games were pretty meh with a nice art style

>>389243853
I agree mostly

I fucking love the concept of Alice Madness Returns

It's a perfect blend of fantasy and horror that has that Vampire Masqeruade level of black humor

But the game was extremely meh. It kept teasing there was about to be this huge boss fight which never came

>still get drunk on occasion and watch the cgi teaser trailers

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Remember that American McGee is one of the few game devs who stood up against SJWs and supports free speech.

I wouldn't be surprised if Alice 3 triggers a lot of Alt Left snowflakes on purpose.

>>389246474
even if we got something with the same level of quality as A:MR I'd still buy it.

>>389243685
>female protagonist.
eww

too edgy for my taste

>>389243853
I enjoyed the dream-like atmosphere and aesthetic of the game too much to let the average combat dampen it. Even the platforming. Especially the platforming.
Pity about all the executive meddling resulting in shit getting cut.

>>389243979
>8/10
it was painfully boring

>>389246423

asking the real question here. I'd chip in extra for that.

>>389246534
That's pretty expertly put. Saved.

I'm not spending another more second on this series, they're bound to be mediocre games at best
Sadly

>>389244654
worse than preordering

Lets all agree that the main sin of Madness Returns was fucked up pacing and building tension without any payoff. Given the right polish tha game would jump from 6,5/10 to 8,5 easily.

>>389243873
>I love Alice more than I hate EA.
This. I always said the only way EA would get my money again would be with another Alice game.

>>389246534
Too bad his games are bad.

>>389246853
Doesn't matter.

>>389243853
The game was almost completely unfinished.

They had plans to include a boss in every world but they got rushed and had to cut them out. There's one that you can only see by getting the trophy for it.

You can also find places where they didn't even have time to texture properly and it looks like a ps1 game.

>>389245574
The first half of that stage was one of the best looking levels I've ever played though.

I just want to hug Alice

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>>389246423
Didn't Double Fine manage to sneak in and take Brutal Legend back so they could put it on Steam?

>>389246853
Yeah, his games aren't nearly as diverse as they could be. Alice should really be black and have an afro. I mean, it's 2017.

>that's a cool level you got there
>would be a shame if someone put a retarded slide stage in front of it

why? they're bad games.
american mcgee is the dresden dolls of videogames.

>>389246943
It does in that example. His entire thing there is "Well, if we weren't free to publish things than my game might not have gotten out. Do you want a world where that happens?"

When his game was pointlessly edgy goth crap with bad gameplay, it kind of undercuts that whole "LOOK AT THE DARK FUTURE YOUR ACTIONS WOULD CAUSE!" argument.

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>>389246771

Worse than full blown AIDS.

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>>389246775
I'd do dark things for a Director's Cut.

>>389243685
>AmericanMcGee is a goobergator

HAHAHHAHA anyone who supports a misogynist like him deserves to get shot.

Hyped for this but McGee has been pissing me off lately spamming that shitty 'edgy' fairy tale card game of his. Can't he make anything original? Plus he seems to think he owns and created the whole Alice in Wonderland thing and gets annoyed at other Alice properties as mentioned in his livestream. Prick.

>>389247149
To you. In your opinion. It doesn't matter if there's 1 person that likes it and 6.9 billion that don't. It still has the right to be made and to exist.

>>389245215
Murdered by gamergate supporters and the body has never been found.

>>389247114
Mother fucker, his games are floaty ass platformers with a Hot Topic aesthetic. It's not some crowning achievement, it's just some shitty 90's game people have nostalgia for. You can try to portray me as some cuck sjw but thats not the fucking problem here. You may like his viewpoints but that doesn't make him a good game maker. And thats pretty fucking important when what he's asking for is money to make a game.

Now, if he were asking for money to make a documentary about game making and the change in the industry from then to now or something, that would be a different story.

>>389245215
She was most likely murdered by he boyfriend who disappeared right after she did.

It's a really sad story honestly. And people just throw salt in the wound bringing irrelevant gaming politics into the discussion.

>>389247619
>And thats pretty fucking important when what he's asking for is money to make a game.
It ain't. People are gullible fucks.

>>389247340
>and gets annoyed at other Alice properties
I mean, the Tim Burton movies were pretty bad.

>>389247137
>american mcgee is the dresden dolls of videogames.

that is objectively a good thing

Alice 2 was just a dream of what could have been. I don't feel like experiencing that all over again.

>>389247340
ironically there hasn't been a good Alice thing since EA killed his series

>>389247381
Yes? I never said it didn't. I'm just saying his argument isn't a very good one because its reliant on using a not very good game as the example of what the world would lose via censorship.

>>389247847
*tips bowler hat*

It's gonna fail.

Isn't this like his 3rd attempt to try raising funds for a 3rd game?

He should just call it quits and be contempt living in a yacht with his chinese waifu

>Sell your only successful IP to EA
>Expect them to treat it well
>Expect them to let you finish it
>Expect them to not pull funding
>Expect them to let you have it back

Shiggy diggy

>>389243685
Did he found his sister yet?

>>389243853
> boring action
> annoying platforming
> collect all the coins mechanic
> weak ost
> non combat levels are too short
> the umbrella bug
> origin
but
> interesting and ambivalent story

>>389246295
Yeah I agree. Every world is a good 1/3 too long, especially the Dollhouse

>>389246775
Agreed.

At the very least I want a version with the bosses added in again.

Each level spends so much time building up the boss then you get cock blocked out of fighting them.

>>389244557
> You're kicking another thread off the board in order to make room for advertisement of a crowdfunding project. It's killing the board by replacing wholehearted discussions with corporate shilling, and you're not even being paid for your marketing work.
Yes, because a billion "who was in the wrong here? *blocks your path* say something nice to her!" And other thinly veiled non-vidya threads are exactly what this board needs. Right?
Wrong. Take a step back, preferably off a cliff, and quit trying to fucking police this board, asshole.

>>389248184
The dollhouse was twice as long as it should have been because they doubled it's length for some reason.

>>389243685
If it's not like the first game I dont give a fuck the 2nd game sucked outside of the visuals
https://youtu.be/Ez7oyQ8_qY4

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>>389248119

You do realize that Alice has always been an EA property right?

>>389247992
>He should just call it quits and be contempt living in a yacht with his chinese waifu
That isn't cheap.

>>389246534
based McGee,

>>389247991
>t. adheres to the conventions of normie punk and fails to connect vaudevillian style pop tunes with devil may care sensibilities whilst also being too much of a brainlet to appreciate the lyrical genius

you are scum

>>389248168
Nope. She's long gone.

>>389243685
>tattoos

For fuck's sake.

>>389248541
t. grandpa

I already did, even donated a couple of bucks.

>>389248434
oh man; i hope when you're older, you remember you typed stuff like this in earnest

>>389248541
What did you expect? She's a crazy chick anon

>>389248484
;_;

Just have Square Enix buy the IP so that Platinum can make a true Alice game.

Then when if it sells millions, SE can get jealous and completely stop support for it because "P-PLEASE PAY ATTENTION TO FFXV GUYS"

>>389248181

>weak ost

I thought the OST was ok, not as good as the original one but had its moments.

https://youtu.be/TTbGiLv4D3k

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>>389248484
Aww.

>>389248648
>>389248604
>being able to get a tatto in an insane asylum in the late 1800s

>>389248698
imagine Silent Hill3 OST without Yamaoka

>>389248541
>>389248604

Tattoos are for sluts.

I turn 32 and have zero tattoos.

One day I'll get: "Fear is the mind killer." on my forearm.

>>389243685
I love McGee's Alice but do we really need another story?

Another story = another suffering for Alice.

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>>389248341
Man that cover is atrocious.


Also, have you ever stopped and just thought about the mindblowing audacity of McGee putting his name in the title of the original? The dude was a fucking 26 year old map designer for doom and quake before Alice.

>>389248341

Alice, Undying (and Medal of Honor) were titles from the time when EA was still willing to take risks with new franchises. Nowadays EA is back on the "sports games only"-mode again, which doesn't bode well for this project.

>>389248692
>Just have Square Enix buy the IP
Oh yeah, they will not fuck it up completely like their other western IPs.
>so that Platinum can make a true Alice game.
Plat fags need to gas themselves

>>389243685
Post some Alice you lazy anons

>>389248802

Bad analogy because few of the songs in Madness Returns are made by Chris Vrenna.

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>>389246853
Golden piles of shit, desu

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>>389248307
I remember the first game having most of the same issues I had with the second honestly.

Really long levels, clunky combat, finicky platforming. The second one polishes up on a lot compared to the first, except for the over-long levels. Which only seem to get longer as things move along.

>>389248946
Painfully mediocre. Some of the comedy was kind of amusing.

>>389248884
>>389248692
Gameplay by platinum would be good, but if they got their hands on the IP they'd fag it up with their shitty anime bullshit, so the end result would probably be a wash.

>>389248341
What's with that cover, is it from australia or something? She had a knife on my cd.

>>389248168

>>389247732

I think they found traces of blood in the boyfriend's apartment sadly.

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>>389248924

>>389243685
Sorry I don't support edgy shit.

>>389243685
>Still use the Bloody Alice Knife from the official "Alice Winamp Skin" as my mouse pointer(for links I have a glowing Sting from LotR sword).

My body is ready.

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>>389248924

>>389244557
>Kickstarter

There is literally no Kickstarter link on that website. Retarded weebshits cannot even read, what a suprise

>>389246534
Sadly that cost him his sister

>>389247537
You mean anti gamergate. Nice falseflagging. Never expected to see real liberal sjw cucks on 4chan.

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>>389246534
probably because his mother literally abandoned him when he was 15, and sold their house and all of their stuf so that she can get a sex change operation in Europe and live with another tranny

also his sister got abducted and killed by a mentally ill SJW


McGee had a hard life

>>389250423
>He met his dad for the first time in his life when he was a teen. At that first encounter, his dad got drunk and tried to gouge his eyes out.
>he managed to convince him to go to a pub to get drunk instead in which his dad crashed the car
very hard life

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>>389250423
>>389250657
fug m8's

Alice have GREAT world and lore but goddamn they need better gameplay.

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>Have a hippy slut as a mother
>Names you American

>>389248642
sick comeback dude

>>389250657
Dear God you can't make that shit up.

I hope American finds some happiness in whatever he ends up doing.

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I didn't like how her delusions became real.

>>389250885
Doomed from the start. Why do parents do this shit to their own children?

>>389251143
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4u79QJo0gc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doWwqvOjP48
>sailing with gf
>chilling and interacting with his fans while streaming Doom
he's fine

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>>389251364
I'll bet the Triad is going to kidnap his wife, hold her for ransom by sending her ring finger to him, and after they get the money American finds out she was in on it the whole time.

Knowing his luck it'd be something exactly like this.

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>>389251356
>>389251364
I'm glad.

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>>389251276
Yeah, I always interpreted her outfit change at the end as another delusion. But apparently it was magic? I don't know.

>>389250885
On the other hand American mcGee sounds unique, good for publicity

>>389246583
Sex with your mom is painfully boring but I still get my rocks off so I hit that shit on the reg.

>>389246534
>Bumby didn't want to be credited because of association to the character

Are "artists" the most autistic people on the planet?

>>389250885
>tfw I thought American McGee was some famous literary scholar because of his name

>>389252143
>tfw I thought American McGee was a guy who was American copy of someone Mcgee, like people call GRRM American Tolkien

>>389252131
The voice actors in Manhunt didn't want to be credited because of the game's nature and content.
There probably are material people made or created that they wish were never credited for, for whatever reason. It's not unnatural

>>389252281
>tfw thought it was just an in joke between Mcgee and the devs/pubs because he was really american or something, like loving whoppers and apple pie

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>>389252408
I can understand wanting to Alan Smithee yourself from bad content, but do they honestly think that "I acted in a game where I smash skulls in in gratuitously violent ways, so I must support that in the real world"?

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>>389243853
It was okay, it wasn't great but it wasn't terrible. It was one of those rare games that was just alright without completely sucking or being great. The gameplay left something to be desired but it had some of the greatest art direction ever in a video game. Also the fact that it has literally one boss in the whole game is just bizarre.

I think the original America McGee's Alice was so much more popular and successful because it came out at the right time (when goth shit was popular, and when gritty dark re-imaginings of classic stories hadn't been done a billion times yet) and because the idea of a gritty brutal fucked up Wonderland loses it's shock value after the first time.

>>389252554
No it's usually "I got paid shit for some video game VA so I didn't try and I don't want my name associated with it". If they get caught they can pretend it was because morals.

>>389252802
I figured that was more the case.

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>>389252579

It doesnt help that madness returns came out 1 year later after the burton movie.

Oh well, at least the Japs liked it just for the waifu appeal. Helps that chinks designed her.

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>>389243685
No
end her suffer already . i am Alice's fan but
Alice should not in horror things anymore
that's enough

>>389252554
You gotta understand, this was the early 2000's, where moms were outside of schools protesting Harry Potter books for engaging in witchcraft and Jack Thompson tried getting GTA3 banned.

Gratuitous violence was the biggest no-no and if you supported Rockstar or anyone that made games like Manhunt, you'd have been picket signs lined up on your lawn, being accused of causing the Columbine shooting.

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>>389246534
>McGee had a number of stepfathers when growing up until his mother finally settled into a relationship with a transgender woman. One day when American was sixteen, he came home from school only to find the house empty and abandoned. The only things left were his bed, his books, his clothes and his Commodore 64 computer. His mother had sold the house to pay for two plane tickets and the fee for her girlfriend's sex change operation, leaving him on his own. He packed up his computer, dropped out of high school and took a variety of odd jobs, finally settling on a Volkswagen repair shop.

Damn.

>>389252989
I can understand Manhunt, Bumby just seems weird for me since it was 2011.

>>389253000
What's his whore mother up to nowadays?

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>>389253000
Fucking women man.

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Alice is so aesthetic

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>>389243685
>All those Alice threads that were popping up out of nowhere yesterday
Now I get it.

Fuck off shill

>>389253048
>>389253056
Ah, I misunderstood the conversation.

Yeah it does seem a bit weird. By '11 everyone was pretty layed back and nobody really had much to complain about.

>>389253304
I rather have a based dev and his historic series getting shilled than to have fucking sjw crap like indivisible here 24/7

>>389253304
>game creator announces that he'll try to make a another game in a series that is popular on /v/
>"wahhh, stop flooding the board with this shit guys. There's not enough room for todays' eight senran kagura thread"

>>389243853
It was, but the “horror Alice“ has much potential. I want him to try and create a masterpiece.

>>389253583
>based dev
Won't argue that, but it doesn't matter because of wanting EA's involvement. Also:

>historic series
don't kid yourself, m8

>>389243685
WHAT HAPPEND TO HER FACE?

HELL NAW

>>389245215
McGee has a shitty life
>Only met his biological father once
>Mother names him American because she was a hippie
>Shitty mother who sold the house and just left him at 16 with no warning to buy two plane tickets and have her girlfriend get a sex change operation
>Game career hits a rocky road and Spicy Horse shuts down
>Sister goes missing and is presumed dead

>>389246534
He supports free speech, not hate speech, you retarded trumpanzee

the fact that you use the fantasy word "alt-left" means that you are a massive retard parroting the orange idiot

go back to you safe space in /pol

>>389253304
Oh yes, we need more room in the catalog for console wars and gay porn right?

>>389254037
In the only country that matters, hate speech is free speech

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>>389248168
>>389248484
>>389249221
its a scam probably, they haven't updated the gofundme since they met the goal. probably too embarrassed
gofundme"d0t"com / yypa3yhk

>>389252143
literally this

>>389253000
What did his sister do?

>>389254453

She was related to McGee aka the guy who opposed sjw hatespeech

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Post more Alice

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>>389254987
k

>>389254453
She had to die to make McGee suffer for the horrible crime of wrongthink.

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>>389253776
He is Alice ;-;

>>389246295
It was a shit game plain and simple, dragged on for far to long with terrible, tedious gameplay. I really tried to like it but in reality it was one of the worst game I played in recent years. First one was great though, if a little unpolished.

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>>389254772
>thought you were trolling so I looked it up
>some crazy SJW was ranting on his facebook about how he was going to kill McGee and his sister for defending Gamergate shortly before she disappeared

Holy shit.

>>389252952
>Lewis Carroll was a pedophile
No one really mentions this

>>389248862
Undying was such a good and shitty game at the same time. Loved the setting, the story, soundtrack and atmosphere, but the game gets boring after a while

>>389255658
Who cares? Take it from Steven King: if your books sell well enough you can diddle little kids

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>>389255658
well at least his love for Alice is true

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>>389253776
Fucking hell

>>389250241
What? Did the SJWs murder his sister?

>>389243685
No Chris Vrenna, no buy

>>389256125
Yes

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>>389250808
how about

an Alice game

Story and setting by American McGee

Soundtrack by Supergiant Games

Gameplay by Platinum

>>389256125
Yep.

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>>389255658
>never heard of this, so looked it up
>find a portrait he painted of a nude loli so I look to see if I can find any of his other paintings
>pics of some actual little girl someone made re-enact the nude painting pop up

Oh God I hope the party van doesn't show up at my house.

>>389256149
No Marilyn Manson, no buy.

>>389243853
I actually liked the combat, it wasn't deep or innovative but it was functional and fairly flashy which is the most I could ask for from a platformer

>>389256238
That would be amazing.

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>>389256238

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>>389256428
Look at his drama with Alice's family especially her sister

>>389256428
He was infatuated and obsessed with little Alice and even said he would marry her, it all got too creepy for her parents so they severed all contact in the end.

>>389256825
Tell me more. I'm afraid to google this.

>>389256238
>Platinum
kindly fucketh thine self

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>>389256428
If you've been lurking 4chan long enough you should know how to blow up vans by now.

>>389255658
He lived in 19th century England. Being a pedophile was pretty normal.

>>389257148
JM Barrie (Peter Pan) was also a little dodgy.. but with little boys. Not really surprising.

American mcGee hasnt made a good game in like 2 decades. DO NOT SUPPORT THIS.

Anyone that thinks this will be good after the middle finger that was Otherlands is a retard

>>389243685
>EA
Dead in the Womb

>>389257137
True. I also know better than to mess with football.

>>389257774
Otherlands was a disgrace. How he could release that with a straight face I'll never know. A complete con.

>>389243685
>SUPPORT THIS SHIT YOU FAGGOTS
NEVER YU FUCKING TRASH BABY

>>389248861
>McGee putting his name in the title of the original
When I saw it the first time, I thought it was the name of a best-selling children book writer or something.

At least it was his real name, not some online handle like PUBG.

>>389243685
>s-see? these people w-want to but this game
Why the fuck you want to support game design proposal? It's not even prototype model, and worse even it will be addressed to EA of all people.

>>389243685
McGee had been making literal garbge for the last few years at a chinese studio. They've been fucking awful and I had the misfortune of funding one that never got finished. Seriously, juat look them up and then burn whatever money you planned to donate, I promise it'll be more entertaining than this shit.

>>389258930
I thought he was competing with Lord British

>>389249175
She'll hold a spoon instead if it's australian version.

>>389256125

She is officially listed as " missing " as no body has been found and no suspect or motive for foul play. The other anons straight up lied to you.

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>>389259679
Sounds awful like what someone who has something to hide would say.

>>389260035

It actually just sounds like something a normal human being would say when confronted with a question that needed to be answered.

>>389260170
Define normal?

>>389260237

I don't have a political axe to grind, and I try to be rational and honest.

Maybe that isn't normal anymore, I dunno.

>>389260465
It's okay, we're all mad here anyway.

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>>389261235

Well played, anon.