Dragon Ball Fighterz

goku cause nostalgia.
18 cause well it's 18.
And yea dude the game looks fucking amazing. the combat looks fluid af too.

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Bardock/Piccolo/Vegeta

Bardock is going to be in, right?
G-guys...?

>>389243579
Trunks, 18, and Cell. Black too if he ever comes out.

sol badguy or majin boo.

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>>389243787
No Bardock no buydock

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>>389243579
Damn OP you almost became my bro.

Teen Gohan/Kid Buu/Trunks here. They better announce him fast.

>>389244113
Kid buu will be in, I guaruntee it

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>Never play fighting games
>Last one was Burst Limit for PS3
>Enjoyed it playing with friends a lot
I'm interested in this, got a controller for PC, no console, will the online be shit or decent at best?

In the past online fighting was suffering even in europe where we have the fastest internet because you'd get teamed up with people from all over the world who just lag the fuck out
still, with that said i have hopes that by now after so much time they made some improvements on that front

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piccolo and 16 for sure. if a better 3rd doesn't come along, krillin

>>389243579
>Who is everybody planning to main?

norio wakamoto

>>389243579
who's going to be the charge character? May was fun

>>389243579
Trunks

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>>389243579

Too bad Majunior is never going to be in.

Guess I'll have to settle for the Nameless Namek.

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I am hijacking this thread in the name of our Queen and the one true perfect Goddess, Caulifla
Caulifla is love
Caulifla is life
And she's a cute
A CUTE
If she's permit me, I'd consentually make love to her in the missionary position for the sole purpose of procreation so that we can raise a family together.

thanks doc shell (piccolo/vegeta) with a decent anchor. prolly SSB blue

>>389243579
Janemba/Piccolo/Broly

>>389244923
I feel like they're going to pull a Balrog and just give them one charge move since the commands are so simple.

>>389243579
I'm really liking Trunks.

>>389245182
Hopefully it's Bardock.

is it true that trunks has greed sever

Why do people insist that Bardock will be the charge character?
I don't see it.

>>389245298
Does Burning Slash hit overhead? If not then no.

>>389245328
Dude's a super simple character so the best way to play at up would be to make him a charge character.

>>389245047
Why does it even matter in a fighting game? Also
>not wanting hellzone grenade

so how does this game work? don't they all fight the same way (pew pew, teleports behind you, super fast punches and kicks)? is Goku Sol? is Cell Johnny? who's the Leo?

I'm not familiar with fighting games

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>>389246316
Watch some fucking gameplay.

>>389246316
It's a super simple GG with an assist mechanic. Since pretty much all DBZ characters fight mostly the same, they're using a combination of simple movelists (literally just quarter circle forward/backwards for all specials and single button super shortcuts) and assists to give some variety.

>>389243787
if he's not in the base game he'll probably be a DLC like Broly, Hit and Black. He's too popular to ignore.

>>389244747
>will the online be shit or decent at best?
It will be good, like any Arcsys game

>aol nuked my psn email because I haven't signed in for over 180 days
>now I don't know whether or not i got a VIP code
>impossible to request them to resend one if you did
anyone else have 0 chance at getting in the beta?

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>>389244901
You too?

>>389243787
>Bardock is going to be in, right?
>no moves
no

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18/Krillin/Lunch

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Cell
Ultimate CHADhan
Janemba
Maybe Black or SS4 Goku if they make it.

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>>389248096
I really wonder why he was in Extreme Butoden unlike a shit ton of characters.

>>389248486
>namek saga art
>awesome story
>badass fighting
>shit yamamuro art
>shitty wtf story
>1 good combo
Yamamuro ruined Dragon Ball.

>>389248486
God, i hope if he makes it they dont include de SSJ retcon

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>>389246698
This sounds like some Ninja Storm level shit

why are people so hyped about this game again?

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>Current Build
Piccolo/Krillin/16
>Likely characters taken into account
The team above but with one of them swapped out for Broly from time to time.
>Ideal
Three HUGE fuckers with massive damage, armor, and grabs, so 16, Broly, and just about anybody big from the series (anybody from Nappa to Super 13 and beyond would work)

This game looks so fucking pretty in motion, agreed. Every combo is a joy to watch, even so early. Most fighting games don't look this good until after people start to know what they're doing and the action starts to flow, but FighterZ has systems and style in place that makes it look and feel so much like DBZ at any level.

>>389244862
My man.

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>>389243579
Freeza/18/Goku: Sapphire Version

>>389243579
Wont be getting this because I don't like "serious" fighting games. (yeah i'm bad at them and just don't like them)
Last DBZ games I enjoyed were BT3, RB 1 & 2. Xenoverse was okay, but not that good either.

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>>389248901
In Extreme Butoden, he turned SS just for his Super Attack, since we already have a god amount of SS (and it won't stop here with Gotenks & co), they will certainly use his normal form.

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>>389248927
It plays absolutely nothing like Ninja Storm. Basically every DBZ game that's come out on consoles over the last ~8 years plays more like Ninja Storm and other arena fighters than DBFZ.

Gameplay-wise it's Marvel vs Capcom and Arcana Heart smashed together with some Guilty Gear/BlazBlue design philosophies and a ton of DBZ-specific flair in some of the fighting systems.

>>389249072
>blue armor bardock
profusely_sweating.jpg
he's getting in fighterz, right? I need his alts

>>389249025
It's really easy to pick up and play. Might be worth getting for the single player alone. If you liked budokai or supersonic warriors then I recommend it

who's doing the music

>>389249190
>If you liked a game that plays completely different to this one then I recommend this one!

>>389249025
You don't need to play seriously to enjoy a game like this, anon.
You will have enough modes to play it casually.

>>389249025
>>389249248
I can only imagine /v/ will run lobbies for the 6-Player mode that will be fun as fuck.

>>389249025
the developer of dbfz currently has what is widely regarded as the best fighting game tutorial ever made in guilty gear. so that's something to consider.

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>>389249169
Can't wait for his pink/Fasha alt color

it seems WAY more simplistic than GG/BB or MvC tho

>>389243787
Too popular to ignore, he is probably going to have SSJ too.

>>389249220
The stage music seems very much similar to the P4A/P4U OST stylistically, but some of the trailer music and the title screen on the demos definitely has the Daisuke quality to it. The theme from the Trunks trailer seems very different from a lot of their usual music.

It would make sense given how much they're putting into the game that their music people were collaborating. Can't wait to hear more character themes; stage themes are fine but in a game like this the compositions for each character are the kicker.

>>389248927
>Somebody compares it to guilty gear
>WOW SO IT'S LIKE THE NARUTO GAMES HUH

How are people this fucking retarded? At least with Pokken and Tekken the names sound the same so that excuses people thinking it's like that even though it's closer to street fighter, but jesus, he outright called it like Guilty Gear

Just because the inputs are simplified doesn't mean DBFZ is going to be casual trash. You can still have

>multiple attack buttons
>attack height systems
>characters with different inputs and with different move propertities rather then every character controlling the same
>resets, cancels, crossups

And so on even with simplified inputs for specials and shit.

>>389249416
damn, meant this to >>389249139

>>389248901
SSJ Bardock isnt canon.

>>389249416
it's basically a scaled back mcv with some light anime fighter gimmicks for most characters.

>>389249557
Neither is Super Vegeta fighting Majin Buu, yet that's in the game.

>>389249479
I hope they will bring back Hironobu Kageyama for the Opening.
Daisuke x Kageyama would be fucking god tier.

>>389249624
>le false equivalence

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Black, Freiza, Merged Zamasu

Freiza's assist seems great and this is my ideal team, otherwise probably Broly and Kakarot since I can't see them leaving out Broly, Kale if they go that route.

Does Guilty Gear have a mode that allows you to view the hitbox/hurtbox

No idea. There are so many I want to play. If Gogeta and Broly get in then one team will most likely be Broly-Vegeta-Gogeta. But I also want to play Piccolo and 16. I am going to have many teams depending on which combinations work best.

>>389249520
there is way too much autocombo and most characters play way too samey, don't even pretend this game is closer to GGxrd than to casual fighters

>>389249804
No

>>389243579
Piccolo, 16 and Vegeta probably.
Slug boi has always been my boi, even when he got laleft behind, lame and got that holier than thou attitude

>>389249904
>autocombo

Won't matter because they won't be optimal so nobody outside of scurbs will use it anyways.

Frieza
18
Jiren

>>389249904
>people mashing out bnbs over and over is too hard to deal with :(

>>389249905
then wtf is the point?

>>389246698
>>389249620
>>389249904
Can you go back to your MvC:I thread, please?
If you want to stay here, go learn some things about the fucking game instead of saying stupid shit when you know nothing about the game.

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>>389249416
>>389249537
>WAY more simplistic than GG/BB
Well, yes. Guilty Gear is a super niche property and as such doesn't care about being complex and at times obtuse, even with Xrd's fantastic tutorial. BB appeals to a wider audience, but that audience is still "hardcore weebs" so it's mostly simple compared to GG.

DBFZ is targeting fans of a more simple side of the genre and arguably the most popular anime franchise on the planet if you don't count Pokemon. It's ArcSys's take on Marvel vs Capcom with some Dragonball influence on the basic design of the gameplay, with the Chase mechanic making it feel a little bit like Arcana Heart.

>or MvC
Absolutely not. If you analyze the setups and combo structures people are finding with a couple hours of time with a limited demo, you can see there is a lot there. Marvel has more motions, sure, but DBFZ has every team-building complexity as Marvel 2/3 and MORE due to things like calling both assists at once and having guaranteed mid-combo character switches outside of DHCs. Then you have the combo system only barely having the surface scratched and already having ways for people to get interesting juggles with just about every character. The most complex combos we've seen are from Max's breakdowns and even those are noticeably more simple than what is obviously possible from bits and pieces you see in other gameplay that people haven't capitalized on because it was a brief moment in a match.

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>>389243579
Yamcha
Krillin
Caulifla

>>389250287
hitbox displays are pretty rare. fighting games just got to the point where frame data is somewhat common.

>>389250315
Why the hell are you quoting >>389246698 like it's wrong?

>>389250390
>pretty much all DBZ characters fight mostly the same
>simple movelists and assists to give some variety
Because it's wrong.

>>389243579
Bardock, 18, Krillin. Of course, this will depend on how they actually work together.

>>389250534
The first was in the context of the show itself. The second is actual facts. Everyone has 236 or 214 motions with the odd 22, and there's an interview that explicitly says that the assists were done to add depth to the game, thus variety.

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>>389249904
Autocombo is how fighting game devs appease casuals without ruining their balance or systems; if they make them right they let shitters do a combo while everybody else ignores them for being totally unoptimal or at most uses them for a couple hits as a chain confirm then transitions into a manual combo.

Samey is a bit much as a descriptor of the cast. Goku/Gohan/Vegeta/Blue Goku/Blue Vegeta are about as similar as Ryu/Ken/Akuma/Oni/Shin Akuma (based off of what their playstyles seem to be), which is to say just based in a similar archetype with notable differences. Cell & Frieza seem to have similar gameplans to me, but their toolsets and combo options definitely vary. Buu is an oddball mixup/mid-range/frame trap character that people have barely touched in demos. Trunks is built to open people up with command movement and good range but has low damage. Piccolo has insane mid-range mixup and setup options. Krillin is an unpredictable keepaway/support character that is nothing at all like anybody else in the game so far. 18 is a pressure/reset monster with similarities to Relius Clover with the added gameplan of enforcing an assist advantage at almost all times. 16 is a full-on heavy grappler that has half a dozen grab options before you even get to his supers.

If those 5 Saiyans are as close as the roster will get to each other, and everything we've seen and heard for the past couple months has pointed to that, it's quite a varied cast in terms of gameplay. Of course people will complain when Goku Black is announced when he'll MAYBE have a Kamehameha and otherwise be totally unique.

>>389250315
>DBFZ has every team-building complexity as Marvel 2/3 and MORE
that's hardly true considering how similar the characters play and that's my biggest problem with the game
the other is that the characters are overall way simpler than the ones in MvC3, you just won't see characters like Dante or Dormamu but even your avarage characters like strider or doom have a lot more to offer.

>>389250287
What do you mean what's the point? That's not even a common thing in fighting games. The only game that's done that that I can remember was Skullgirls.

>>389250743
>the first was in the context of the show itself
Context of the show or not, the game already proved that the characters are different from each other.

>Everyone has 236 or 214 motions with the odd 22, and there's an interview that explicitly says that the assists were done to add depth to the game, thus variety.
Motions are for accessibility, not variety.
Assist is a game mechanic, so why does he not talk about all the other game mechanics?

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>>389250743
>The first was in the context of the show itself.
That's wrong though. Goku fights completely different from Broly and Piccolo.

>>389250853
>Goku/Gohan/Vegeta/Blue Goku/Blue Vegeta are about as similar as Ryu/Ken/Akuma/Oni/Shin Akuma
that's just not true tho. They have similar visuals but their properties are just way too different, like Ryu is a very heavy zoning, fireball spamming character while Akuma is a rushdown, jump-in, air fireball throwing character.

There just not seem to be such a big playstyle changing difference between these characters.

>>389250946
fuck, meant this to>>389250330

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great art

>>389251738
ohoho but that's actually the 3d model

maybe

>>389250946
In Marvel you build your team based on how good they are as point/battery/anchor, how their assists extend combos or aid setups, how their DHCs flow into each other, etc. DBFZ has pretty much all of that; misses out a bit in the assist department by doing TvC-style locked single assist per character, but you can also call both at once so that helps add complexity back. There's also the aforementioned ability to switch into another character off a mid-air Smash guaranteed rather than Marvel 3's TAC gamble that boiled down to "how to take meter from Phoenix teams and/or set up infinites", and that adds new dimensions to how team makeup works; you have to think in terms of how you can start a combo with one character that can transition into another for maximum damage while keeping track of your combo resources and scaling.

You're right that we won't have a Dante, but who's to say we won't have characters that hit Dormammu-levels of internal systems, or that the current cast can't come close to matching up to Marvel 3's average character in terms of complexity? I think we need to wait until people can actually lab with this game; from what little we've seen I think it's showing real potential, which is great 6 months out.

Gonna talk about character similarity in another post because I'd probably hit the length limit in this one.

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>>389251832
Nah, it's the official artwork.

But the game models do look good, I used to think kaioblue aura looked like trash until this pic.

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>>389251934
>team Synergy
18 is gonna be a blast to play with
also combo videos to this song when?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcGndttTxuk

>>389252102
Will this be the game to finally top Final Bout in terms of an intro?

>>389252102
has that "call out 17" move been figured out yet?

>>389251540
We know nothing about Blue Goku/Vegeta playstyle, wait for some real gameplay and movelist.
Also, Gohan is different, he is a rushdown character without any fireball special, he can only use the Ki Blast button.

>>389252227
Yeah, it's an anti-assist. If he's out and someone calls an assist he'll beam their ass.

>>389252227
yes
>>389252224
never, but few songs came pretty close
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPoq60_icmQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm0MH3qsHWA

So is the FGC excited for the game or is all the hype just made by DB fans?

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>>389252001
I'm in the same boat as you. I didn't think much of SSB at all until ArcSys. I guess just higher quality art will do it.

>>389252321
oh damn. i might consider working 18 into my team.

does it still work when krillin and 18 are together?

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Just give me
>Tien
>Kid Buu
>Ultimate Gohan
>Gotenks
>Beerus
>Hit
>Broly
>Janemba
>Ginyu (other members as specials)
>Roshi or Hercule
and the roster would be perfect Dragon Ball, everything else would be a plus

>>389252508
Yeah. The only diference with Krillin on the team is that if he's alive when 18 uses her Level 3 Krillin replaces 17.

>>389252639
>Ultimate Gohan
>Janemba
>Ginyu
>Hercule/Roshi
Those are the only ones unlikely.

Gohan has a chance because of that Gohan_y shit, and Janemba has a chance because of his moveset, but that's about it.

no hercule pls acsys

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>>389251540
I'm not saying it's 1:1 to the shotos but it's an easy enough parallel:
>Goku is the most all-round character in the game, designed to be the easiest to grasp and have the most basic playstyle; he is a really solid character that can teach and reward the game's fundamentals, just like Ryu; he also gets one small gimmick of two supers that teleport behind the opponent
>Gohan requires a little more thought than Goku, due to having smaller range on his normals and thus having a harder time getting in. His playstyle is a little more patient as he fishes for hits, but his good anti-air options (which Goku lacks) compliment that; his supers also kinda suck besides the raw damage on his Level 3/5
>Vegeta is visibly more aggressive than Goku and Gohan, with good normals, a DP seemingly designed for combo extension, a divekick, several multi-hit moves, etc. Even his assist encourages his teammates go for lockdown setups; this and both of his supers being Air OK suggest he'll gel with a lot of teams
>Goku Blue seems to be Goku with the training wheels thrown off and replaced with additional tools. He seems like he's going to constantly be throwing different mixups at different angles, the aggressive parallel to Krillin's unpredictable keepaway
>Vegeta Blue apparently drops all defensive options (so I guess no reversals and lower health) for speed and aggression, with his toolset changed to match; supers changed from two projectiles to a uniquely angled beam that doesn't have much ranged use and two rush supers to show this difference in playstyle
Obviously breakdowns of the SSGSS are hard to do with just one trailer and some scans but you can see their differences already.

The only characters I think feel similar beyond those characters are Cell and Frieza since their gameplans seem similar, but again their tools to do so are unique to them. From Buu to Trunks to Piccolo to Krillin to 16 to 18, everybody else fills a totally different and unique niche.

Where are the rumours coming that this game will only have 30 fighters?

I keep hearing from people that this game will have at best 30 fighters , which to me is way too small to have for an actual productive/clean/fleshed out story mode in addition for a dragon ball game since they have super characters and most likely extending it into Super.

anyone else worried the roster will end being safe and boring? there's also the fact that the move list for each character is tiny compared to marvel.

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>SS Goku
>SSB Goku
>Super Vegeta
>SSB Vegeta
>Teen Gohan
>Future Trunks
>Piccolo
>Krillin
>Frieza
>Perfect Cell
>Fat Buu
>Android 16
>Android 18
Mystic Gohan
Gotenks
Kid Buu/Super Buu
Tenshinhan
Yamcha
Beerus
Master Roshi
Broly
Ginyu
Janemba
Bardock
Broly
Hit
Goku Black/Merged Zamasu

27 characters. Although I see some of these as coming as DLC instead.
Anyone missing?

>>389243579
Vegeta Blue
Don't know
Don't know

>>389253062
reminder that gg xrd post-dlc is only 25 characters.

>>389253062
1. The story mode isn't just a retread like most games, or even going back to them in new ways like Xenoverse. It is a single, original story that seems to take place sometime right before or after the Goku Black/Zamasu arc.

2. Making characters in this graphical style in a way that is accurate and balanced for a 2D fighter is very taxing. 30 characters would actually shatter the record for most characters in the first version of an ArcSys game at launch, which I believe is 19. Personally I expect 26, maybe 28, with 2-4 DLC characters before perhaps a sequel/revision 18 months after release that adds ~6 more.

>>389253124
>anyone else worried the roster will end being safe and boring
How did you come to this conclusion?
What characters do you want that would make a roster exciting?

>>389253151
If you labelled the Roshi, Janemba, and Ginyu slots as slots for any number of unique characters ArcSys could add, with those 3 obviously being near the top of the list, this seems accurate.

I'd say maybe Bardock will be DLC though, he seems like the kind of character they could sell a lot of.

>>389243579
Piccolo, 18 and Roshi if he gets in.

>>389253062
lol, not. At best, it will be 20~25.
They have done better original story mode with less characters than that.
Also, they add characters in story mode which are not playable (like Bulma).

>>389243787
He's got a better chance of making it in then Nappa or Raditz

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>>389243579
They WILL be in. I just have to believe.

>>389253151
You can take off Yamcha and Ginyu as they realistically don't have enough to warrant a slot.
>m-muh rekkas
He has 1 fucking technique and a controllable ki blast, that doesn't make up for his shitty combat style and lack of other techniques.
>m-muh captain gaymando
Never happened, so Arcsys isn't going to ltierally invent a new moveset. Will they make up normals if they have to? Yes. Will they literally redesign a play style to fit in some gimmick character? No.

>>389253124
>anyone else worried the roster will end being safe and boring?
16, Fat Buu, 18/17, Krillin, Piccolo looks safe and boring to you?

>there's also the fact that the move list for each character is tiny compared to marvel
Maybe because creating characters from scratch is different than copying characters from old games and reusing old assets?

Buu, all the way. He's my fav.


For the other 2, the only ones im not intersted in trying are trunks, 16, and krillin, all others are fair game

>>389253735
My nigga.
Team EARTH'S STRONGEST

>>389253895
>Team EARTH'S STRONGEST
you mean just 18 by herself?

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>>389253735
Well atleast two of them will be.

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>>389253151
I like that they changed his pose

>>389253780
can't redesign a playstyle if he doesn't have one yet.

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>>389253780
Yamcha's VA already confirmed he's in the game. Stated he did so much recording he got tired.
Why would Yamcha have a big role on the story mode if he's not playable?
>He has 1 fucking technique and a controllable ki blast, that doesn't make up for his shitty combat style and lack of other techniques.
You know who has even LESS stuff than Yamcha for moveset? Android 16. Besides, like everyone has said it before, his WFF lends itself to Rekka's, and his Soukidan could works exactly like Millia's Secret Garden.

>>389243787
Bardock will absolutely be in
He has grappler written all over him

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>>389254009
18 doesn't count, anon

>>389253809
>Maybe because creating characters from scratch is different than copying characters from old games and reusing old assets?
I agree that DBFZ has a unique and varied roster, but Marvel 3 didn't have reused assets and still managed 50 characters, including some really complex ones like Dante and Wright. The way ArcSys works is different, especially given the team's size, and they're designing the gameplay and characters from scratch basically on top of making them in a very specific and manual graphical style; I get that even 30 is a bit beyond what they could feasibly do unless they had a pretty barebones set of modes/features.

Marvel Infinite has no excuse for having 30 at launch with only 5 new models though.

>>389249025
DBFZ is super casualized shit, you'll be fine

>>389254504
>Born on Earth as a human
>Augmented with Earth science
>Still a functioning human capable having children
Pretty sure that counts for Earth's Strongest.

>>389254069
They really made Frieza great in this game. His purple aura looks unique next to all the gold, and he's the only character with 4 supers. Not to mention the neat references in his moveset, like how he can be hit by his own Saucers, and launch one of his supers on wakeup.
And when I thought he couldn't get cooler, they make his intro even better.

>>389254504
>guy with no nose is ok
>guy with 3 fucking eyes is ok
>girl with a few robot bits inside her is definitely not ok

MUH SOGGY KNEE

>>389254191
>You know who has even LESS stuff than Yamcha for moveset? Android 16
>WFF
>Soukidan
vs
>Rocket Punch
>Hell's flash
>self destruct
No, 16 has more, he just had less normals.

>his WFF lends itself to Rekka's, and his Soukidan could works exactly like Millia's Secret Garden.
Oh my fucking wow, he has two(2) techniques! That's definitely a unique fighting style that can add variety to the game, more so than literally any other character with more than two(2) moves!

Reminder the only Super characters that deserve a spot currently are Hit, SSR Black, and Fusion Zamasu

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>>389253310
>It is a single, original story that seems to take place sometime right before or after the Goku Black/Zamasu arc.

Well that's a major bummer. I was hoping each individual character received their own what if story revolving around them like in the Arcsys developed Supersonic Warriors series

>>389254673
>they make his intro even better.
I heard about this, what is the change?

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>run run run
>as fast as you can
>you can't catch me
>i'm the

>>389254778
no super characters deserve a spot
they're all dogshit

>>389254687
not him but uh, they frequently mentioned she was augmented down to the cellular level. Whis and Beerus even imply that this is a taboo much like Time Travel in Super.

So its clear that its not really the same deal. Earth's Strongest is Goku anyway. He considers himself an Earthling and isn't much of a Saiyan.

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Really hoping these niggers get in

>>389254954
>they took down the ReDux versions
Wonder what really happened. Did the editor go full blown gay?

>>389254754
Reminder that 2 of 16's supers are the same. Hell's Flash. The last one is something he didn't actually do, but whatever, he meant to do it, so I guess it has a pass.
Goku has 4 kamehamehas in his moveset. 4.
Yamcha also has kamehameha, and more than enough panels in the manga to make up normals and specials. Special attacks aren't always named moves.
Yamcha has more than enough to make a unique moveset.
I don't get why you people always throw a fit over Yamcha. You think he'll stop your favorite character from being in?

>>389254504
I hope Tien gets in. He could be tooled as an all out offensive fighter.

>Multi form as a seiei enbu style super
>four arms as a powerup style super, maybe similar to moves like menat from sf5's vtrigger or strider from umvc3's ouroborous super, with each button corresponding to a different attack
>neo tri beam as a level 3 super which you can choose to expend health to do extra damage

>>389255071
Nice opinion, kid.

>>389254826
This is his old one.>>389254069

This is his new one.>>389253151

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>>389255148
>Majuub

>>389255265
>being this much of a super shitter
thats like wanting the shitty gt characters

>>389255209
>He could be tooled as an all out offensive fighter.
>latest episode he just runs at the enemy while being hit

it fits

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>>389254665
>>389254687
She wasn't even human anymore after what Gero did. Every aspect of her human self was fucking eradicated, and maybe I'm mistaken, but I thought she was still part android and totally fuckin human?

>>389254687
Tein unlocked that third eye, and these extra arms, from nolifing his training

>>389255312
he's cool

>>389255396
I don't watch super. Did he do anything useful or just the same old same old

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>>389255189
its hip to hate on Yamcha. So much that even Super has ripped on him on more than two occasions.

>>389255503
He gets fucking shafted and the only way he "wins" the fight is by jumping his enemy from behind and jumping off the stage.

it was the most retarded thing ever

>>389251738
Tits or thighs?

>>389255383
Fuck GT but are you saying you wouldn't want Frost poisoning his opponents like Testament? Goku Black/Zamasu taking down ningen similar to 17/18?

>>389255420
her original personality is what was gone. still human.

>>389255503
he cloned himself and got shot while everyone stared at him. got knocked out but took the guy with him at least. only slightly better than krillin's shitshow.

meanwhile roshi has a higher killcount than goku.

>>389255189
>Yamcha has more than enough to make a unique moveset.
Do people just assume he'll be unique because reasons?
He has two moves, that's it. His fighting style is completely generic aside from those two special moves. Why do people tihnk that because of those techniques that he'll be a completely diverse fighter? What logical reasoning do you have to conclude from Yamcha's in-universe moveset that he'll be anything more than Goku with a rekka and a controllable ki blast?

Tien, Roshi, Kid Goku. They have unique movesets and actual varied techniques as well as varied potential for normals(mainly Goku). Yamcha ONLY has two techniques, nothing else. He's a watse of space and the last "hero" to ever be considered for the roster above Chaozu, the kids, and Yajirobe.

>>389255589
Thighs.

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>Videogame Boredom is setting in
>Everything I want is in Early 2018, including this
>tfw worried might not get into beta since I didn't get a VIP code and even though I signed up for it within seconds of the signup link dropping
I can't wait until the Open Beta in January if I don't get in that's too far away.

>>389255148
>Tapion
>Never landed a punch in his life
I'm really hoping you are joking for this one.

>>389255967
>sword user
>criticized for not throwing punches
wew

>>389256021
He never used his sword either.

>>389255726
>Frost poisoning his opponents like Testament
Oh cool, a gimmick character. What does he have besides poison needles?

>>389255148
>I want Majuub
Said literally nobody ever.

>>389256112
Additional poison needles.

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>>389255847
People that played the game are saying that Goku/Vegeta/Gohan play almost the same.
I have faith in Arksys. They'll make every character unique from now on if they can. They picked the most recognizable characters to be the most easy to use in order for casuals to be able to have fun.
Yamcha is one of the Z-Fighters and has been in DB since the beggining. I hope he's in the game. And I know Arksys will be able to make a good playstyle for Yamcha if he's in.

>>389256112
Literally nothing
Only delusional faggots think Frost has a chance, his whole existence is literally just to be a Freeze clone

>>389255148
>Majuub
GOOD JOKE. The only with a chance is Gotenks and SS3 will probably be an install since he cant hold SS3 for long

>>389256302
But Yamcha is fucking useless. They don't even bother to call for his help in Super anymore.

>>389256302
>People that played the game are saying that Goku/Vegeta/Gohan play almost the same.
Gohan is different, more rushdown/anti-air character without fireball special unline Vegeta and Goku

>I have faith in Arksys
Arcsys

>>389244862

Thanks doc

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>the tears when this guy gets announced

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>yfw we have Tiencha instead of Tien and Yamcha

>>389256302
>Yamcha is one of the Z-Fighters
>tfw fate of the universe is on the line
>yamcha patiently waiting for the phone call
>goku decides its better to just resurrect frieza instead

eternally btfo

>>389256501
Goku didn't even remember to ask Tien. He was going to ask Master Roshi, and Tien just happened to be there.
Also what does that even matter?

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Does anyone from Dragonball Evolution has a chance?

>>389256302
If Krillin of all people got in, Yamcha and Tien is definite at that rate. People should be worrying about movie, DB and GT. If a character had a major role in fighting, on the hero side in DBZ, they are most likely in.

>>389256678
No tears, I don't care about the character but I know that unlike a lot of characters people want, this guy has actually a moveset which is completely unique

>>389256745
Hadn't Yamcha already retired from fighting during the 7 year gap after the Cell Games?
He didn't enter the Tenkaichi Budokai then either.

>>389256841
>which is completely unique
>generic evil death sphere attack #5
>literally Nappa's explosion attack

>>389256898
So did Krillin until this recent arc in DB Super

>>389256898
>Hadn't Yamcha already retired from fighting during the 7 year gap after the Cell Games?
Yes and he never has a single good fight.
Yamchafags are at the same level of those 17fags.

>>389256898
he was still positive they'd ask for his help

>>389256819
What? Are you actually fucking retarded? Krillin is infinitely more of a character than Yamcha and his moveset is better. That's why he got in.

Krillin:
>Relevant character
>Moveset
Tien:
>Varied moveset
Yamcha:
>died in every major Z arc

If you think that Yamcha has the same shots as Tien then you're fucking retarded.

>>389257030
You're delusional if you think 17 isn't in.

>>389256945
http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_techniques_used_by_Syn_Shenron
>this is a generic moveset
kys

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Admit it.

>>389256112
Treachery? l don't know. Could have feints and shit. "Oh geez! Zangief is a grappler? Talk about a gimmick character." That's how you sound.
>>389256315
And yet he's nothing like Freeza aside from race. Literal retards shitting on Super just because.

>>389256945
>Has every shadow dragon's attacks and abilities
>the cell of GT villains
>not "unique"
He's a better choice than Yamcha.

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>>389256945
>Whirlwind Spin – razor-sharp wind tornado that cuts and damages the opponent
>Dragon Thunder – extend the spikes on his back and impales the target and eletricutes them
>Heat Armor – envelops himself in high temperature to block attacks and burn his opponents at the same time
>Super Ice Ray – Eye Lasers that can freeze opponents
>Aftershock – cause pink energy waves to blow up from the ground
You know that he can use the powers of all the dragons, so why are you even trying to contradict a fact?

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>>389257194
you are a mistake

>>389257213
>character has literally one trick that insists of just poking someone with a needle
>"That's definitely a varied moveset. Arcsys can do anything! He could easily be XYZ and have X as a move and Y as a counter. He totally has all sorts of untapped potential, he's essentially the Gohan of FighterZ"
That's how you sound.

>>389257213
He's only had a couple exchanges of punches, sone blasts and needles. That's it.

>>389257213
>It's a Frostfag
Literally how does this happen?

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>>389257172
>he don't know
kek

>>389257213
>And yet he's nothing like Freeza aside from race.
Except he's exactly like Freeza, probably slightly worse though since he starts wars to make himself look better

I will never understand people that want characters not to be in the game.
I get being afraid that they'll eat up a slot for one of your favorites, but there are people that would rather have 29 characters without one they don't like, than 30. It's just fucking stupid.

>>389243579
stop shilling, this game its shit

>>389257393
>character has literally one trick that insides of getting close to grab someone
>"But Super is just gimmicks! Fuck off with that shit."
That's how you sound. l'm not saying l want Frost but he does bring in something new that other fighters don't. What l really want is Goku Black/Zamasu or even Fused Zamasu. l'm fine with them.

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>>389257681
Go back to your shitty game.

>>389257539
children who just discovered dragon ball a year or two ago. they'll latch onto a newer character. like all those people that insisted trunks was the best back in the day

>>389257681
go back to your MvC:I/SFV thread, capcbro

>>389257681
stop shilling, this game is months away
FTFY

>>389257658
>Yamchafag
If he makes it in then it's fine, but if he takes up a slot for any character that actually matters then it's a problem. You can come up with a full roster without even thinking about Yamcha once, that proves that he doesn't deserve a spot in the slightest.

Wonder which version of Gohan the director likes, I'm guessing "Adult" Gohan, bitches love Buu saga Gohan

>>389257539
Nah. Just saying he brings something like FANG or Testament into the game. l'm more of a Goku Black/Zamasufag. lf not, my team is already decided. Freeza/Cell/Vegeta.

>>389257681
cuck

>>389257658
I really dislike Hercule.

>>389257172
Oh he's in. As a part of 18s movesets.

>>389257759
If the character only has 1 technique then it's a gimmick. That's fact. Frost is a gimmick. He's the copy-Frieza that will secretly drug you. He's gimmick the character and has been since he got introduced.

>>389257851
Nah, child/teen Gohan because of her child.

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>/v/ casuals pretending they're going to learn Guilty Gear With Assists because it has Dragonball characters in it now
lmfao

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>>389257851
I would love to have Future Gohan instead of Ultimate Gohan, but I know in my heart it just won't happen

>>389257813
>being this autistic
Been watching DB before you were born, kiddo.

>>389251738
Do you have more of these?

>>389257658
Only characters I actually dislike are some Super characters and Hercule. They are beyond trash and annoying.
The worst part is Hercule is almost guaranteed so that's one roster slot we'll never get back.

>>389249804
No but you can download a program to view them in the pc version, or just check them online

>>389258060
If only Piccolo was still around he wouldn't have lost his arm.

kid Goten or Kid Goku. Kid Goku if K. Goten doesn't have Gotenks fusion.

>>389258037
You're a special kind of retarded

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>>389258037
ln the end, pretty much this. l don't even know why l'm arguing with half of you rosterfags. You're all cancer and /v/ sucks at fightans.

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>>389258082

>>389258060
who the fuck is Ultimate Gohan, is that new slang for Mystic Gohan?
because they used like 10 episodes to build up Gohan going mystic and he just got chocolated. it was the biggest letdown in DBZ history.

>>389258071
damn really? that's pretty impressive since i was born a year before db's first episode was aired in japan.

>>389258037
>>389258189
>replying to yourself

>>389258238
>new

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>>389258037
I learned Guilty Gear because DBFZ was coming and I wanted to practice for it. I'm glad I did, because GGXRD is by far my favorite fighting game now. Have been playing it for 2 months now.

>>389258137
He's right you know. This is a board that thinks hadouken motions are unnecessarily complex. They are going to get frustrated doing simple jump cancel combos.

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>>389243579
>Who is everybody planning to main?
Depends on who's in.

Right now Piccolo is a sure-thing because he looks annoying as fuck and I want to make scrubs cry.

Beerus if he makes it in.

I might play a hard-counter to 18 just to troll waifufags, too.

>>389258037
better off playing mvc3 instead

>>389258250
Yup so eat a dick, youngin.

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>>389258197
Why is he so smug, bros? Was he programmed to be this way?

>>389258238
That's why we want Great Saiyaman instead of Smugoku 1.5

>>389258238
Everybody jobbed during the buu saga. They even introduced a whole new power level and they achieved jack fucking shit with it.

>>389249520
>Just because the inputs are simplified doesn't mean DBFZ is going to be casual trash.
It does when the game has auto-combos. I'm not 9 years old, I don't need fighting games to play themselves for me.

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>>389258396
>>389258396

>>389258238
DB has always done this though.
They build up characters so a villain can destroy them. (wow this bad guy is s0o0o0oo strong ! ! )

Also this game scares me. It looks simple, and borning and filled to the brim with ugly brown dust clouds of unnecessary obstruction.

If this game is samey, and easy to play its going to be a huge let down, just like the shows ! I expect many people to get burned.

Game is going to enter the stage with a bang, and go out with a fizzle moments later..

>>389250204
>TH-THEY WON'T BE OPTIMAL!
They're still obstructive and annoying since they can't be turned off.
Fuck off and learn how to play fighting games, P4A baby.

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MIIIIISSTAAA SATAAAAAN

>>389258518
Auto combos are garbage compared to optimal combos you retard.

>>389258518
>implying you can win with babby's first combos
You're gonna get your shit pushed in, son.

>>389258437
>Everybody jobbed during the buu saga.
>HOLY SHIT VEGI-
>nevermind

bad feels

>>389258620
>>389258604

>>389258505
I really like this shade of blue opposed to what super mainly use.

Where are these renders from anyway?

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>>389258505
>that symbol
>on Blue Goku
They could at least remove the fucking symbol

>>389258518
Autocombos that are optional and only happen if you mash don't play the game for you. You need to block, mix up, etc. to even get a chance, and even then they do jack shit for damage compared to things you can come up with in the space of 30 minutes like most people that know what they're doing playing the game have.

>>389258604
>They're still obstructive and annoying since they can't be turned off
No they aren't. How can they be obstructive if you can chose not to use them?

If you're accidentally activating an auto combo then it means you aren't good.

>>389258639
Nah I'm gonna stick to GG because I don't play baby fighters with auto-combos.

i need Kid Goku in this game

>>389258604
>Mash
>Gets auto combo
>WHAT THE HELL IS THIS BROKEN GAME
if you knew what you were doing auto combos would be no issue

>>389258791
But that's the symbol on his gi in Super?

>>389258710
Auto combos only happen when you repeatedly mash buttons. They aren't obstructive at all if you know how to play and don't roll your face over the controller. Retard.

>>389258518
>It does when the game has auto-combos.
So you don't know shit about how these things work then? They do shit damage, they're predictable, they are a waste of time. If you're crying over the ONE combo that they can do that you can learn and block effortlessly after seeing it, then I think there's a bigger problem here, and it isn't the autocombos. Stop. Mashing.

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>>389243579
Best girl, of course.

I can't wait for this game to die so scrubs will stop using it as a fake-ass "look at me I play REAL fighting games!" badge and go back to Xenoverse where they belong.

>>389258858
He should get a crotch patch command throw

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>>389258604
>obstructive
>When they only activate by mashing a button several times in a row

>>389258949
>Puffy inverted nipples
get out

>>389258827
But, Guilty Gear does have auto combos. Guilty gears easy mode even blocks for you.

Don't know who's in it, but I generally play Ultimate Gohan, Namek-arc Goku, and blue Broly.

>>389258949
>Back tingle meter
>Fills up as you watch others actually do shit

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>>389258959
Who hurt you anon?

>>389258761
>Where are these renders from anyway?
The main site.
http://dba.bn-ent.net/character/

The artist has more drawings in Japan in this exact same style. There was this picture of DBZ costumes and it had a cutout of Kid Trunks and Base Vegeta's head, it was the same artist but I didn't save the pic and forgot what I reversed image searched to find it.

So he's been doing it for a while, maybe we'll get an official word when the game is released.

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>all these people crying "STOP MASHING!" thinking it'll make them sound like they know shit about fighting games
lmao stop pretending there are never situations where repeating a normal is useful and go back to P4A.

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>>389259056
Then it is inevitable.

>>389258994
what's wrong about them?

>>389258949
>Super squishy tits

oh lordy

>>389258994
Cabba actually makes them pop out in the doujin.

>>389259004
There's a difference between stuff like Xrd's Stylish mode or Marvel 3's Simple mode and P4A/DBFZ/MvCI autocombos. The former is a totally different mode of play that doesn't really even let you have full control over your character, and the latter is a feature that is more integrated and allows players to get a combo if they aren't good at execution at all but otherwise has them play the normal game.

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>>389259004
>he plays on stylish mode
I knew you DBFZ fags were scrubs.

>>389258604
Nigga I played Persona 4 Arena. It's probably one of the most grimy fighting games out there, and actually has issues people complain about fighting games in general having. But if you think the auto combos are any part of that, you seriously haven't played the game. They're absolutely shit in Arena, and only useful to build meter in Ultimax and extend one character's combos.

>>389259131
no eat shit waifushitter

>>389259163
>Just makes her nipples tingle and gets another power up
TORIYAMA!

>>389259235
It's a fact she'll reach Super Saiyan 3 next episode, and then she'll go directly to Blue, skipping God.
Might as well just start working on it.

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>>389258060

>>389259163
>>389258949
Dragon Ball manga sure has changed.

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>>389259112
It's always the DBZ games that do it. They're the ultimate trap to out people into proving they don't know what they're talking about and just want to sound "super pro EVO MLG".

I blame the developers, though. Years and years of casual shitty fighters starting with Budokai has made these people think they know shit because we've never had a legit DBZ fighting game. Arc was our only chance and it's obvious that Bamco was breathing down their necks to keep it easy and casualized so DBZfags can feel like pros.

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All these rosterfags need to fuck off already. Not like you're going to play the game after a week anyway. /v/ can't even learn to fighting games.

>>389257194
I just wish they used Future Gohan's style for him instead of that design. He went from being one of the hardest badasses in DB, and rocking one of the best designs too, and then they just streamlined everything on him and made him a joke to boot.
Toriyama is such a weirdo when it comes to his characters.

>>389259361
>2 arms
No.

>>389259389
thats fanart
shitty one at that

>>389259361
>2 arms
disregarded

>all these cunts begging for multiple versions of the same fucking character
right into the fucking trash

>>389259475
There's nothing to learn, DBFZ is for babies.

>>389259196
>>389259209
You can even use stylish mode online though. Just like autocombos, it isn't optimal and you will get your shit pushed in by competent players. It's a non issue

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>>389259476
JUST

>>389259112
There's also a difference between going for a hitconfirm with a couple Lights and just pushing the button 4-5 times in a row.

There is not one fighting game with an integrated auto-combo where that feature contributes to it playing poorly. The worst I can think of is Marvel Infinite's and that's only because they don't scale back its damage like other games do.

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Would you rather have Ultimate Gohan or the Great Saiyaman?

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>>389259590
The difference is Stylish Mode isn't mandatory, shitlord.

>>389259112
In those cases you don't mash it in quick succession so it wouldn't autocombo. If you were then yeah you are shit and are just mashing one button

>>389259662
Neither are auto combos. Don't mash like a retard.

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>>389259567
>DB game
>not at least 15 Gokus without counting transformations

>>389259641
None. Both are shit.

>>389259641
saiyaman has always been stupid.

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>>389259361
>2 Arms.

>>389259590
sure you can still git gud with autocombos but the fact remains
>i want the game to play the game for me

>>389259760
Older Gohan's a joke anyways, what difference does it make?

>>389259635
I actually don't mind him being a pacifist, because it's part of his character. But he has gone through some though hardships to know when to man the fuck up and drop the charade of being a goody two shoes.
Also, I actually like that hair on him instead of his usual straight and spiky.

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>>389259723
>mfw Budokai Tenkaichi 3 had Dragon Ball Goku, Saiyan saga Goku, post-Frieza Goku, Buu-saga Goku and GT Goku

>>389259641
Videl with saiyaman assists

>>389259760
still less stupid than the ultimate jobber

>>389259641
Great Saiyaman 2

>>389243579
Piccolo + Krillin
Third character someone high tier, I don't give a shit.

>>389259641
We could have both you know

>>389259778
I don't want that at all. And no, you actually can't get gud with auto combos because they are horribly optimized. I was just saying that other games have easy mode stuff in them, including other ArcSys games and they don't really impact higher level play.

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Bulma when pls.

>>389259762
This has always bothered me, I hear that F. Gohan can't have one arm in games because of censorship or some bullshit, yet Baiken has had only one arm for years and it's been just fine?

MASTER LIST OF POTENTIAL CHARACTERS:

*Characters listed from their initial appearance, of course including later stuff.
*This only takes into account moveset quantity(including transformations and potential support stuff), not moveset uniqueness.
*Moveset source must be manga for DB/DBZ(primarily) and anime for OVA/Specials/Filler/Movies/GT/Super. Games are complementary only.
*Being able to fly(in some way) and fire ki blasts(this doesn't mean having a dedicated ki button) is a requirement until a character that doesn't have either or both gets in.
*Yeah, lots of Super characters have potential, but they must first show more moves.

DB:
-Kid Goku(flight with Nimbus)
-Yamcha
-Roshi(flight with Gamera)
-Tien
-King Piccolo
-Base Goku

DBZ:
-Raditz
-Kid Gohan
-Nappa
-Base Vegeta
-Dodoria
-Zarbon
-Ginyu
-Recoome
-19
-17
-Imperfect Cell
-Future Gohan
-Dabura
-Majin Vegeta
-Super Buu
-Gotenks
-Ultimate Gohan
-Vegito
-Kid Buu

TV Specials/OVAs:
-Bardock

Anime Filler:
-Pikkon

Movies:
-Turles
-Lord Slug
-Cooler
-Meta Cooler
-13
-Broly
-Bojack
-Janemba
-Gogeta

GT:
-Pan
-Kid Goku (GT)
-Rilldo
-Baby Vegeta
-Majuub
-SS4 Goku
-Super 17
-Nuova Shenron
-Omega Shenron

Super:
-Beerus
-Hit
-Black
-Merged Zamasu
-Bergamo(w/Basil&Lavender)

>>389259950
>old ugly saggy bitch
Never

>>389259950
I like her Super look but it sucks they stopped giving her new costumes and hair.

>>389259851
Raging Blast did a way better job about that

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>>389260023
>17
Just let it go man

>>389260023
here's a better version with the trash removed

DB:
-Kid Goku(flight with Nimbus)
-Yamcha
-Roshi(flight with Gamera)
-Tien
-King Piccolo
-Base Goku

DBZ:
-Raditz
-Kid Gohan
-Nappa
-Base Vegeta
-Dodoria
-Zarbon
-Ginyu
-Recoome
-19
-17
-Imperfect Cell
-Future Gohan
-Dabura
-Majin Vegeta
-Super Buu
-Gotenks
-Ultimate Gohan
-Vegito
-Kid Buu

TV Specials/OVAs:
-Bardock

Anime Filler:
-Pikkon

Movies:
-Turles
-Lord Slug
-Cooler
-Meta Cooler
-13
-Broly
-Bojack
-Janemba
-Gogeta

>>389260023
Stop posting this shit, it's a fucking sloppy and delusional as fuck list

Everyone seems to only approach with that homing dash attack thing no matter what character, it looks safe if you block it too. I think it's called super dash?
Pls don't tell me the game is only going to turn into mashing out that super dash attack thing until you get a hit
How do you punish that thing?

>>389259641
Saiyaman would probably be more fun to play as. I could see them using his poses as some sort of canceling system or self-buffs.

>>389259778
Nobody here is arguing that they want the game to play itself. We're saying that the feature is there so total shitters facing other shitters that cannot into neutral or blocking or mixups can do a combo. Even if somebody were to get good at everything else and still used autocombos they'd still be at a disadvantage because they'd have mediocre damage and couldn't open people up with anything other than the first move of the autocombo even if they got in.

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Fused Zamasu pls.

>>389260023
>Piccolo's special button doesnt shoot out ki blasts
>it's his stretchy arm instead

>>389260223
it's not a wishlist, retard

good to have an idea of who has enough moveset

>>389260276
It's negative on block and you can counter hit them with 2H for free damage if they don't cover it with an assist anyway. Also this game has pushblock if you really don't want to deal with shit.

>>389260380
not unique enough

>>389260012
Piccolo literally lost an arm in the last episode, it's just bullshit.

>>389260012
Future Gohan has a stub, he's missing a limb. That's not allowed.
Baiken has a mechanical claw replacing her arm, so she is technically not missing a limb as there's an artificial one in place.

That's why Gohan has 2 arms in games.

>>389260276
People have barely gotten time with the game so we don't know much of what's capable yet so everyone kind of fights the same right now

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>>389259073
I don't have the original pic.
good luck finding it

>>389260438
But it is wrong, 16 didn't have enough but they took loads from old games and reused the same poses

https://youtu.be/qIS-_4QkH30