undertale

>>389233768
no

It's a cute little story of friendship with an RPG/SHMUP playstyle. Also you're going to need to have the stomach for ANIME HYPE, so if that all floats your boat, go for it.

I liked it.
I cried around 13 times and teared up far more than that cause I felt like I had friends who cared about me.

>>389233768
I'd try the demo if it's still up.

>>389233768
You should, unless you're the kind of person who is incapable of forming any opinions of your own. Then no.

>>389233851
>friendship
>>389233865
>friends
wtf are you talking about.
All I met was enemies.

there's nothing wrong with trying it, i personally never finished it because i hate the combat system but there are reasons why so many people like the game

>>389233768
Before all the contrarian faggots come in here. Yes, it's worth both a genocide and pacifist playthrough. The game itself is solid and if you haven't been spoiled is fantastic if you are going in blind.

Ignore the godawful fanbase and you'll be fine.

>>389233963
It's an uphill battle because of racism born from bitterness/fear.

>>389233768
I don't recommend it but I don't know you and what you like, so I guess pirate it and find out for yourself.

Yeah it's an incredibly charming little game with pretty likeable characters and a car better story than most shit games out there these days.

Its one of the best story focused video games, /v/ hates it because it has a meme fanbase

>>389233768
Unironically yes. The thing I like about Undertale is that it has actual gameplay substance rather than just being a quickly grinded out game like FNaF is. The gameplay is good, the characters and dialogue are fine if you have the acceptance for goofy stuff. The music is AMAZING, made me continue on playing.

I had the benefit of playing the game blind without the influence of the huge fanbase it has now.

It's a great game definitely worth playing.

/v/ was waiting for it too, they only started hating it when it became a hit with tumblr and other place /v/ hates, therefore it must be a bad game.

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>>389234049
>being so fucking poor that you can't afford a 10 dollar game

>>389233768
It's good if grindy.
People who never experienced meta got their heads blown away and hailed it as the coming of jesus christ, but it was nothing original.

>>389233982
Just so you know, concepts like "pacifist run" and "genocide run" is actually a spoiler. Those are fan concepts to describe two different play styles. By using those terms around new players, you are implanting the idea in their mind that there are runs to be wary about. Without your influence, they would play the game with pure curiosity, and make the honest decisions they would make. Thus, getting the feedback from the game that fits their real playstyle. Not the artificial playstyle they're conducting in order to play by some meta rule.

It really grinds my gears when I'm watching a new player stream the game, and people like you join the chat talking like
>"Hey [streamer], are you playing pacifist or neutral?"
Like, why would you even ask that kind of thing? The streamer is playing blind. You're spoiling the experience.

>>389234295
>grindy

what

>>389234215
>Paying for something when you can get it for free

>>389234306
The game puts it in the players head within the first 30 minutes that you can go about the game killing shit or go through a more peaceful resolution to win battles. It isn't that much of a spoiler.

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>>389234402
IM ENTITLED TO FREE SHIT BECAUSE MOMMY WONT BUY THINGS FOR ME

>>389234427
It does it in the fucking trailer for the game.

>>389233768
It's decent and short, I feel like it should be cheaper.
The problem is people don't like it since it's too popular.
Japan loves it though.

>>389233768
Five Nights has more care put into it. I mean, it's not pixels, so there's that.

It's not worth the money or time. If you have two monitors you could put a youtube video of it on while doing something more worthwhile. There is no real substance and you'll only find it emotionally hitting if you're a giant pussy who doesn't know how legitimate human interaction feels.

Oh and to make what I've said even more of an insult to this "game" I'm willing to admit that I watch MLP.

Good game, terrible fanbase.

>>389234367
Genocide.

>>389233768
Only pick up Five Nights at Freddies if you're a 13 year old furfag that fantasizes about taking the knot.

>>389234427
But the game doesn't tell the player that *always* sparring, will result in a unique ending. By labelling it a "run", you are indicating that there is a conclusion to being a pacifist. However, in the way the game explains it, the idea can be taken to mean that pacifism is merely a choice you can exercise sometimes, but not all the times.

I've seen this with my own too eyes. Purely untainted players often puzzle through the morality of killing enemies. Some players choose pacifism, some players choose to kill. But regardless, they're not cajoled into the choice by others.

>>389233768
You should give any game you're interested in a chance and form your own opinion, don't fucking ask other people to tell it to you
You're your own person, think for yourself asshole

>>389234456
Yes. I am entitled to free shit, because I can get free shit. I am entitled to everything that is evidently within my capabilities. That's how the world works.

>>389234473
What a flaming wreck of a comment.

>>389234458
>>389234427
>>389234630
Also, I'm aware of the marketing. But again, despite such slogans as "a game where no one has to die" or whatever, the concept of a pacifist run is still too much of a tell. There are people who don't catch on to the marketing.

After all, if everyone understood from the beginning that you don't have to kill anyone, then no one would kill. And yet they do. They make those mistakes.

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>>389234685
Don't mind me just pirating this car! I'm entitled to it!

>>389233768
It's a fucking meme game that turns you into a brony.

>>389234765
Just wait until I pirate your daddy.

>>389234749
>UNDERTALE! The RPG game where you don't have to destroy anyone.
>first fucking line of description in the Steam shop

>>389234765
Gonna fuckin pirate your life in a minute smart ass.

>>389234798
Additionally, be careful of eating hotdogs, they'll turn you gay.

>>389233768
It's a good game op. Don't listen to the fanbase, don't listen to /v/ either, just enjoy the game.

>>389233768
>popotan reference

>>389234848
Why do you think reiterating the slogan makes a difference. I just explained that it doesn't.
For 1, not everyone reads the slogan.
2. Not everyone who reads it remember s the slogan by the time they're playing the game.
3. Not everyone who reads the slogan interprets it to mean that there is an ultimate conclusion to being a pacifist. As the slogan suggests that pacifism is only an option. It's not automatically assumed that it's required for any purpose.

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>>389233768
I originally hated it because the fanbase was (and still very much is) full of obnoxious fags that can't stop singing its praises, but a friend gifted it to me and I enjoyed myself. Basically Mother/Earthbound
>TL;DR the game itself is good but the fans need to fuck off

>>389235068
>not everyone reads the one-line description of the game they're about to buy
Are you fucking stupid? It's not even remotely a spoiler.

>>389233768
It's good, also what >>389234906 said, try and play it in isolation, forget everything surrounding it and just enjoy your time with it.

Back when this was first released and before the fanbase ruined everything, /v/ was shilling this game like fucking crazy, then it became uncool to shill.

>>389234402
t. communist

>>389235171
You're stupid if you think everyone pays attention to things like that.
I watched a streamer start Undertale on recommendation from the chat. She didn't have the game herself, so she logged into her boyfriend's steam account. I guess he never played the game, since it was a fresh save.
And then sure enough, there were fags in chat talking about "are you doing a pacifist run or a neutral run?"
Luckily, she's reckless, so she just killed a bunch of monsters, which made some people salty. But then she was cajoled to restart and play pacifist for the best ending.

Like I said before, if people interpreted the slogan to mean what you seem to think it means, then what incentive does anyone have to kill in the game? And yet they DO kill. Proving that regardless if they see the slogan or not, they still don't heed it. It's not until you fag make a big deal about "runs", before people catch on. You're spoiling the game.

>>389235308
Nah, just an opportunist. It would be nice to have an ideology but I don't have it in me.

>>389235247
Can confirm. Even back during the demo, people were going crazy about goat mom, and shilling for the kickstarter.

>>389235572
Autism.

>>389234765
the only reason why you don't steal cars or kill people is because you know you won't get away with it. Or atleast you fear the possible consequences.
welcome to the real world

>>389234685
You just destroyed all moralfags, lmao.
And if course the guy you're responding to resorts to an analogy like a mouthbreathing retard.

>>389235693
what if you're a good person

>>389234685
Spoken like a true criminal. Just don't expand to murder or some shit.

I'd play it, but I have been crazy spoiled on it.

Fuck the fanbase, seriously.

>>389235610
Seeing thicc mspaint goatmom is what made me aware of the game, and I'm pretty sure the same applies to a large portion of /v/ too at the time.

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>>389235692
Yes, explaining things is autism.

>>389233768
It's a good game, it's just the fanbase that is bad.

>>389235693
I legit buy music and return money I find on the ground to the nearest law enforcement or help desk. I just want to work, eat, and act like a complete asshole when I play video games.

>>389235817
I find moralfags annoying, even though they're mostly trolls. They hide behind the facade of morality to cover up their own incompetence and laziness and cowardice. But piratefags are annoying too, though they often come up with more intelligent rationalisations.

>>389235884
If I was in a scenario where committing murder benefited me more than not murdering, and I had the ability to murder at that time, yeah I would murder. Such a situation hasn't come up yet though so I can't predict my actions with high accuracy.

>>389236031
That's unfortunate, joking or not. I have no argument, that's just unfortunate.

>>389235693
Nigaa I don't even kill spiders the fuck you talking about.

>>389233768
It's nice and fun and charming. Close this thread and avoid any further probing about this game until you play it, though, as it's really best when you're going in blind. You don't need any tips or anything; just do whatever.

The fanbase is largely that of five nights at freddies and minecraft and so on, seeing as normal people played it when it first came out and left it at that, but they'll never be an issue, assuming you don't browse the darker pits of deviantart or whatever

>>389236031
>I find moralfags annoying, even though they're mostly trolls
Do you seriously think the majority of people that think that you should be a good person are just kidding? Being good and kind to others is the standard default.

>>389235572
>she just killed a bunch of monsters, which made some people salty. But then she was cajoled to restart and play pacifist for the best ending.
Fuck these faggots. Being railroaded by idiots into playing games like Undertale (or really any game) the "proper" way ruins the entire experience.

>>389235817
Hehe yeah dude, fuck those moralfags lol. The other day I was at my local library and I showed those morfalfags when I moved all the Qurans and Bibles to the fiction section.

>>389236031
Fuck yeah man, those moralfags are just sheep, we're the real enlightened people, we are the ubermench and the moralfags are the untermench hehe

>>389236031
>If I was in a scenario where committing murder benefited me more than not murdering, and I had the ability to murder at that time, yeah I would murder.
Edgy. I can think of many situations where murder is beneficial. I just don't do it, because I value life enough not to snuff it out for petty gain.

>>389236196
>Do you seriously think the majority of people that think that you should be a good person are just kidding?
Yes, people who openly and actively push morality are generally lying scumbags.

>>389236196
>Being good and kind to others is the standard default.

Sure it is fucking moralfag. Just because you said that the next time I'm at my local grocery store I'm going to smear my shit all over the seat and all over the walls.

>>389236031
This is good bait, you deserve this (You).

>>389236231
Moralfags on /v/ are like annoying vegans, what they do doesn't concern me, it's the fact that they don't shut up and are constantly trying to show off to everyone how much of a superior person they are, it's like just fuck off.

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(((undertale))) is kike propaganda
also chara did nothing wrong

It's a good game, just stay away from the fanbase.

>>389236290
>I can think of many situations where murder is beneficial.
So can I but that's not what I said. I said situations where murder was more beneficial to me than not murdering.

>>389236378
>died
Seems like a pretty big fuckup to me.

>>389236359
*brofist* Nice to see another /b/ro that is willing to tell the moralfag hivemind to fuck off of /v/.

>>389236445
>falseflagging this hard

>>389236458
Moralfag sheep spotted.

>>389236505
>>389236445
samefag

>>389236031
I can't really point out the flaws in your reasonings, not because they're good, but because you have completely different goals to normal people. Your ammorality would theoretically benefit yourself, but us "moralfags" have the goal of benefiting ourselves and others.

>>389236321
>>389236327
Who hurt you anon

>>389236359
>show off to everyone how much of a superior person they are
But clearly, we are.

>>389236412
He knew what you meant. He just said that if he were in a situation where a murder would be better than not a murder, he still would not murder because murder is morally wrong

>>389236458
It's not falseflagging; it's sarcasm.

>>389236505
Not him but I'm deeply worried by how proud you are and how willing you are to defend being an awful person.

>>389236556
>It's not falseflagging; it's sarcasm.
>implying there's a difference on an anonymous internet image board

>>389236524
>>389236458
samefag

>>389236412
I don't understand the distinction you're making. If you can benefit from murder, then what's stopping you? I mean, aside from the threat of getting caught. You could probably cover up your crimes with some forethought.

>>389236591
Who are you quoting?

>>389236593
>>389236556
samefag

>>389236603
Morals and Ethics.

>>389236649
Both of those are for moralfags though.

>>389236603
>If you can benefit from murder, then what's stopping you?
All the downsides of being a murderer, for example, risk of imprisonment, risk of retaliatory murder or worse.

>>389236619
>t. /s4s/ memer faggot kike

>>389233768

I haven't played it on PC, but bought it and almost finished it on Vita. Worth money and time.

>>389236663
Sure showed me. I guess I'm off to go murdering strangers now. Thanks for the words of wisdom, anon?

>>389236505
>>389236637
>>389236593
>>389236524
samefag

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>>389236676
>/s4s/

>>389236556
>you have completely different goals to normal people.
I really don't. True philanthropists are incredibly rare. People who don't break their own moral code are almost non-existent.

>>389233768
its a good game, too bad the guy who made it was a hardcore tumblr memelord so there's a ton of unfunny shit

>>389236801
(You)

>>389236801
Most people would not take a human life if it were convenient for them.

>>389236445
I thought moralfags would be against being obnoxious faggots.

>>389236665
But hypothetically speaking, assume that risk has been mitigated to the point of of an insignificant chance. So there's no realistic expectation of you getting caught, or suffering retaliation.
You could kill, and benefit, without fear. Would you still do it?

>>389234306

Same actually, I hate how the normal run never gets any respect or love. It's got a lot of dialog and attention for who you do and don't kill with things like the inn, undyne feeling conflicted and guilty after you let her go, alphys crying over MTT("he's just a robot" after all), and sans' entire speech about sparing you after toriel's kindness and exp really hitting the note if you've killed her and a smattering of monsters on your way for convenience. And then you get the adapted phone call at the end too.

Genocide and pacifist are both actually predictible and generic endings and exactly the same for everyone who plays the game, but the ending I really remember most fondly was my first playthrough with mixed kill/Mercy decisions and I absolutely hate that every new player gets told to just play pacifist, reload to get true pacifist, then Geno. You miss half the meat of the original route

>>389236949
I remember not really paying attention when i first played (because i wasn't yet informed that it was the greatest thing ever and spoiled in every way) and not actually realising that I had killed toriel. I think someone walked in and spoke to me or i was checking skype or something, and I mostly skimmed through flowey's dialogue. Always wondered why she never picked up the phone

Undertale is something that I imagine really loses a lot of impact if you don't play it blind.

kill blacks

>>389236929
>You could kill, and benefit, without fear. Would you still do it?
Fuck. Yes.
*unzips katana*
My blade is ready for its feast of blood... itadakimasu.

>>389237313
and dakimakura to you too, young lady

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>moralfags ruin yet another thread
Go take your goody-two-shoe asses back to your reddit hug box you useless shitstains.
>inb4 lmao u telling me any1 with morals is automatically a redditfag?
More than anything it's how obnoxious you losers are, why should anyone on an anonymous video game discussion board care about how much of a good abiding citizen you are? Actually give me a reason.

>>389236890
Yeah they would.

>>389236929
If there was zero risk, then we're talking about whether the benefit outweighs the effort. Assuming that, yes.

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>>389233768
do play it, it's very good, but stay away from it if you got smaller relatives that can get attached to it. My little brother watched me play it and became one of those rabid fans that can't shut up about it

>>389237387
Why should anyone care about how much of a bad person *you* are?

And what if we want to gloat, and don't care that you don't like it? We are entirely in our rights to do things we want to the detriment of others, following your logic

>>389237401
Cynicism for cynicism's sake is not truth. The world may be worse than it could be, but not infinitely worse. You are deluding yourself if you think that others are as craven as you are.

>>389234765
Are you the same faggot with a pirating thread?

>>389236949
>>389237172
I was actually lucky enough to avoid killing blind my first time. Since I headed the slogan. I just looked at it like a challenge. And I avoided killing Toriel by paying attention to the subtle changes in her speech bubble.

>>389237574
You're deluding yourself if you think the people espousing moral virtue aren't the people who will always go against those morals the instant it's convenient. I think the entire known history of humanity demonstrates that.

>>389237401
>If there was zero risk, then we're talking about whether the benefit outweighs the effort. Assuming that, yes.
Ah, ok. So then I stand by my assertion that you're edgy. Most others have a higher pricetag on life.

>>389237574
>'no u' argument
I asked the question here, don't fire it back at me.
But I'll answer your question anyway, I'm speaking for myself here but I don't bring up how much of a 'bad' person I am, the only people who provoke arguments about being a 'good' or 'bad' person is moralfags every time.
>"Don't mind me just pirating this _____" thread no.999,999,999
Just go to hell.

>>389237764
>Just go to hell.
Ironic.

>>389237762
I don't understand how edgy applies in this case and I don't see how I am treating human life any cheaper than the vast majority of humanity but you're welcome to your obviously false opinion.

>>389237845
Not an argument.

>>389237387
it's so bizarre watching a self confessed bad person feel indignated at good people for committing the crime of being good people.

Really, how do you have any authority to tell people what to do when your whole philosophy is about people doing whatever they want to the detriment of everyone else?

>>389237881
You're being edgy by projecting your rather radical ideas about the cheapness of human life. Expressing a very cold perception of the world. Whereas most people would actually avoid killing, even if they benefited. As this "morality" the other anon is talking about, is this intangible sensation of familiarity that most humans develop, which prevents us from harming our fellow man, without good cause.

This is what separates humans from psychopaths.

>>389238063
It's one thing to be
A) A good person
It's another to be
B) An obnoxious cunt who feels the need to obsessively talk about how good they are every day while putting other people down

>>389238184
If others are put down by me not being a shithead then perhaps they deserve to be put down.

What moral authority do you have to make me stop hurting the criminals feelings?

this thread is quickly devolving into autism

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>>389238248
I thought good people don't hurt other people's feelings.

>>389238148
I never said or even implied human life was cheap, I never said I would harm anyone or anything without good cause, and as reality repeatedly shows us, most humans will kill when it's more beneficial to them than not killing.

>>389233768
No. For every good part, theres a really cringy one.

>>389238392
Not when they don't deserve it.

>>389238419
> I never said I would harm anyone or anything without good cause
Your "good cause" was it being personally beneficial to you

>>389238484
How do you know your perception of whether someone does and doesn't deserve it is accurate?

>>389238484
No, I never said I would kill if it benefitted me. I said I would kill if it benefitted me more than not killing. That's a huge distinction that has been ignored or dismissed more than once ITT.

Played it because someone gifted it to me. Only worth it if it's free and you don't mind a 1 hour game

>>389238419
>I never said or even implied human life was cheap
True, but by your measurement of when it's ok to kill, you are indirectly saying life is cheap. As you have a lower value for life than other people.

>I never said I would harm anyone or anything without good cause
But you said you would kill for personal gain.

>and as reality repeatedly shows us, most humans will kill when it's more beneficial to them than not killing.
Reality also repeatedly shows us that humans have avoided killing even when it's beneficial to them.

>>389238617
Nobody has ignored that "detail".
It's really quite obvious

>>389235875
Stealing cars and killing fools ain't bad

metal gear
metal gear
tactical
espionage
action
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
metal gear

>>389238639
I set the highest possible standard for killing, outside of pathological pacifists. Your inference about my position on the cheapness of life is inaccurate.

I never said I would kill for personal gain. I said I would kill if it benefitted me more than not killing. Huge distinction.

The humans who avoid killing when it's beneficial to kill are a rarity compared to the humans who have killed when convenient.

>>389238681
Yes they have and continue to do so.

>>389238617
>I said I would kill if it benefitted me more than not killing.
I still don't understand.
Say you could kill someone for money, and get away with it. What's stopping you? You already said that the fear of getting caught or suffering retaliation was stopping you. So I made a hypothetical where you wouldn't get caught. And then you said you would do it. You would kill for money, if you knew you could get away with it.

>>389238808
>I said I would kill if it benefitted me more than not killing. Huge distinction.
I told you I don't understand the distinction you're making. And instead of explaining it, you just keep repeating the phrase. So explain yourself.

No. I thought I would like it, I did not. Save your money and time.

>>389238639
>Reality also repeatedly shows us that humans have avoided killing even when it's beneficial to them
What about the declining murder rate? Wouldn't that indicate that in the past a large volume of murders were committed out of incentive/possibility that has now been removed?

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killing your enemies feels good

>>389238969
This, anon over here didn't like it so neither should you, OP.

>>389238824
Yeah sure, you're right about that. But my position is based on real world practicalities, not hypothetical scenarios that don't resemble reality. And my position is common among almost all humans throughout the history of our species.

>>389238883
I don't see what you don't understand so here's some examples.

Killing someone to steal his wallet isn't worth it. I don't know how much money he has plus I'd probably get arrested and imprisoned. Killing someone who threatens my life is worth it because the alternative is being killed. Killing someone because they annoy me isn't worth it because that's pretty disproportionate, plus the whole prison thing again.

I really don't see how this isn't clear. Every conscious rational decision is a cost benefit analysis.

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you should try killing for what you believe in some time

>>389238985
What about the declining murder rate? What rate? Because it's not declining globally. Maybe you think your home town is the world.

>>389238985
Murderers are actually a very small about of the general population. And many of the murderers would find ways to justify their actions beyond what petty gain they could get from it.

Also, many murders are done by more dire circumstances. When people are starving, or lack basic necessities to even live. But even so, most of those people don't kill. Killers kill. And killers are a minority.

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there's a lot of problems in this world and the only way to solve them is by killing people in the street

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>>389233768
OP Play Persona 4, also Undertale is good but play first Mother 3

>>389239297
It would create more street cleaning jobs at least.

>>389239158
>But my position is based on real world practicalities, not hypothetical scenarios that don't resemble reality.
What are you talking about? There are a thousand real ways to benefit from killing someone. Are you really playing the "this is the REAL world, kid" card? Stop.

>I don't know how much money he has plus I'd probably get arrested and imprisoned.
Yeah, but you could easily target someone who you know has money, and plot to get away with their murder.

>Killing someone who threatens my life is worth it because the alternative is being killed.
Yeah, but you could also stop a person from killing you, and have them arrested. I mean, if you have enough power to kill them, then conceivably, you have enough power to put them in jail.

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"morality"
that's a nice meme
do you really think that "morality" is really real, something really truly inside all of us
or is the "morality" meme just something we tell ourselves, to go along with the "civilization" meme
here's a good meme
"humanity"

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always remember to get some carbs in before, during, and after your workout

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don't drink bottled water

sure is a lot of samefaggotry in this thread

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i think people who disagree with me should be killed
i also think a lot of people who agree with me should be killed too, because they don't agree with me in the right way, or for the right reasons, or to a great enough extent

>>389233768
If you don't know anything about it, play it but don't spoil anything.
If you know anything about, don't play it.

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>>389234765
Don't mind me just shutting down the entire economy! I'm entitled to it!

>>389234042
Please go back to tumblr

>>389234402
People like you deserve to die.

>>389235128
Basically this. I really enjoyed the game, but the fanbase is obnoxious as hell.

>>389233768

If you've never played Mother, SMT, or a shmup, then you might think it's cool. I couldn't get into it because I didn't like how it ripped off the aforementioned.

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>>389233768

>>389234456
So salty.
Stay mad, while I play whatever I want, whenever I want and most importantly HOW I WANT.