>darkness is absolute evil >light is absolute good

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>>389224056
>one, just fucking one naaru goes full retard for the first time on the serie
>omg I can't believe the light is bad!!!1, love u so much illidan boi!!!!1

>>389226048
everything about xera is retarded

>>389224056
i like how illidan one shot that fucking bish

>>389224056
It's complete order vs complete chaos cause Eastern views on Light/Darkness are more interesting than Western views.

>>389224056
>Blizzard is bad at writing
>WC's lore has been a complete shitshow since TBC
>Implying any self respecting oldfag continued to care after Memeaclysm.
Now that you're done shilling, please let them know some of us are interested in legacy servers.

>>389227840

>implying WC's lore hasnt been a complete shitshow from Vanilla

>Every zone is just a mishmashed setting
>The dark iron dwarves are our endgame!
>N-no wait its e-evil bugs?
>Remember the trolls? Yeah those are bad guys now.
>No wait, hold on, now I'm being told its the Emerald Nightmare?
>Oh wait, now I remember, yeah, the undead, the SCOURGE is the bad guy now

They had so much to work with, but literally zero direction.

>>389227840
>>389228096
>implying all of WoW wasn't a mistake
WC's lore died after WC3

>>389228174
WC lore was already pretty stupid by WC3.

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>>389224056
Post more smug Illidan

>>389228247
yeah it was Outlandish (heh) but at least it was somewhat coherent. WoW's lore is literally someone launched a trebuchet of spaghetti at a wall and it somehow knotted itself before getting stuck

>>389227663

With eye beam, which isn't even part of the single target rotation.
Illidan a scrub confirmed.

>>389228096
>>389228174
Alright I laughed I admit it. It doesn't change the fact that the lore isn't wasn't anywhere near as abysmal as it is now back then. I just want legacy servers, I'm sick of Elysium and private shit.

Tonight I almost resubscribed and I realized I would never have the time to properly enjoy it and that the money would be better put to use elsewhere. Also it just...does not seem the same. Warcraft is best when it is alliance vs the horde.

>>389224056
>Light is the absolute best spirituality in existence that's based on non-violence and quality, so that's why we have to force it upon you

Hmmm, sounds familiar.

>>389229825
>btw join our ARMY of light

>>389224056
"maybe we should let the void buttfuck us and our world to death" -centrist in a universe with an actual good/evil binary

>>389229825
>>389229885
What did he mean by this?

>>389228482
>but at least it was somewhat coherent

>LET'S FUCK OFF TO OUTLAND AND CLAIM IT AS OUR OWN, ARCHIMONDE WILL NEVER FIND US
>MMMM WATCHA SAY ILLIDOR
>N-NO I WAS JOKING HAHA I'LL INVADE THE FROZEN THRONE FOR U SENPAI

>>389229927
Nigga both sides are a buttfuck, Even the Naaru doesn't ask for content when it was to tentacle fuck Illidan. Cover your ass if you don't want a dick in it.

>>389226048
>Honestly liking that glorified windchime
Good fucking riddance

>>389229339
>when it is alliance vs the horde
But anon, if that happens the Horde would unavoidably become the bad guys, they are losing enough subs as is.

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a'dal was still a bro

>>389231509
This

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>>389231379
>>they are losing enough subs as is.
It's almost as if the writers have told Horde players to pretty much fuck off because they're no longer important and it's clear the writers don't give a shit about us. Legion has been 100% Alliance pandering and yet Alliance players still cry about the mean ol' stinky Horde, that's why it's absolutely pointless trying to pander to these children.

i honestly think that people who still sub to wow in 2017 have brain damage, its the only conclusion i can draw

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modern wow sucks
legion sucks
7.3 is fucking shit and sucks
Ion ruined WoW
if you are subbed to legion right now you are a cuck

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>>389224056
>even Illidan thinks chosen one shit is stupid
Are the writers becoming self-aware?

>>389224056
Darkness is evil and light is good literally by definition.

>>389231757
That's a very black and white way of looking at things.

>>389231575
Why are Horde so butthurt? You got the spot light in 3 expansions straight. Not to mention Metzens Green jeebus OC. Jesus Christ you people have a victim complex bigger than the World tree.

>>389231896
>Cataclysm was the first time the Horde got anything major for them
>Even Horde players complained about Green Jesus

>MoP was very equal and nearly cut down the middle
>We literally raid Orgrimmar; the Horde capital

>WoD was just a bunch of Orcs that are unrelated to the modern Horde
>People still cry, kick, and scream about it being a Horde expansion when it fucking isn't
Try harder with your bait next time.

>>389232052
And the shit still flows. I'd tell you cry harder, but its just pathetic at this point. The horde isn't the center-point of the game you know, they can focus on other parts of the story. What they are a center of is cry-babies and furries. Or are you gonna cry about that as well cause the Alliance got worgen?

>I've sacrificed everything what have you given?
>alright now sacrifice your demon powers to become a weapon of the light and end the Legion once and for all
>sweatingelf.jpg
>blows holy creature that's trying to help us to pieces
>your faith has blinded you
>but you're faith in me and my plans though is alright
Sorry the Naaru were always presented as good beings who cared about the well being of living organism

Adal willingly came to protect and shelter the people stranded in Outland and completely forbid the use of violence even in if it was in the name of what was right

They've wrote themselves into a corner yet again and are doing everything they can to build up Illidumb Cockcage

>>389231575
>green jesus
>two years of orgrimmar
>orclords or orcor
Are you just colon cataclysm'd because Baine "This character has no personality" Bloodhoof wasn't in Highmountain?

>>389226048
Considering that she's the queen ruler of the Naaru it's a pretty big deal that she turned out to be some interstellar slave driver that blinds people with faith and prophecy.

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WoW was best when it was just the post-wc3 world before they had to reintroduce the wc3 characters in anyway.

>Illidan prophecy
>WOW WTF BLIZZARD, MORE "CHOSEN ONE" BULLSHIT
>Illidan without prophecy
>WOW WTF BLIZZARD, MORE CORRUPTION BULLSHIT
I'd bet anything the people pissing themselves over this don't even play the game

>>389232228
I know right? Maybe we should let the Void Lord's culturally enrich our planet after all.

>>389232153
>>What they are a center of is cry-babies and furries.
But that's the Alliance. You're literally crying right now.

>>389232196
>Horde are forced to put up with Alliance shit since the beginning of WoW, and have literally had to help Tyrande get her beloved Malfurion back, as well as help Velen's stupid fucking retard-ass retake the Exodar
>Alliance get so fucking brutally anal-devastated from having to be around the Horde for 5 minutes that they'll never let people hear the end of it
The Alliance are and literally have always been the Tumblr of WoW. Even if they get what they want, they're never happy or satisfied, and will literally complain about anything and everything.

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Male Blood Elf Havoc Demon Hunter best gender/race/spec/class combo.

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>tfw because of this faggotry there's literally no way to unfuck the lore
>Warcraft 4 never ever

>the light and the void are two sides of the same coin
Sorry its way too late to be trying to introduce a middle school perception of moral grey areas into a universe where there are already clear set good and evil. Its the same as them trying to give justification to Sargeras quest to literally destroy all life in the universe with "well its to stop the void"

Yeah if you have that strict of an end goal then there is no reason for the Legion to be so sadistic. Eredar and the demons don't behave like a bunch of contract workers trying to build a water fountain. They actively take pleasure in torturing mortals, stealing souls and burning down planets.

Sorry there's no justification or other viewpoint for a giant guy who literally looks like Satan wanting to slice my world in half with a big sword. Fuck you he's evil

>>389228537
How do you know that he doesn't have some crazy artifact perk or something that gives him a unique single target bonus damage??? Ever think about that?

>>389232480
>Warcraft 4 never ever
It's for the best. Blizzard has gone turbo retarded with their storytelling across Warcraft, Starcraft, and Diablo all within the last few years.

>>389224056
god is ded brudders. i am my tithes.

>>389232480
Have you fucking seen Diablo 3's writing? Imagine that but worse, that's how Wc4 would be.

>>389231649
>he still thinks the management have anything to do with direction
they're glorified firefighters with inflated salaries. i bet you think holinka ruined pvp too. the suits run blizzard now.

What if illidan allowed himself to get purified? Any demon hunters got a 3rd spec of healing/dps?

>>389232452
you're a sad individual

>alliance leader solos a super fel reaver, fights off a swarm of demons, and finally has to be finished off by the most powerful warlock on the planet
>horde leader gets poked once and dies

Do you think blizz was trying to say something about the factions during the start of the expansion?

>>389232159
He'd just be trading one dick in his asshole for another. He wants it off, so he can put his dick in Tyrande's asshole.

>>389233551
They were trying to say "hope Overwatch was worth it!" after having a bunch of work dumped on them before his inevitable ragequit.

Now they shit on everyone. They even make you pick up Xera's pieces like a literal janitor.

>>389232452
Fucking hell man. Just unsub if you are that upset.

>>389233651
So, whatever happened to Anduins black dragon buttbuddy? Shouldn't he be all up on's in the fight against the legion?

>>389233648
>wants the cheerleader girl who's doesn't give a shit about him anymore
>Tsundere jailer girl who follows him anywhere
>wants nothing to do with her
Illidan is literally the embodiment of an angsty teenager boy

What did they fucking mean by this?

>>389233764
He's trying to kill Chromie and pretend he's not responsible for it. I still say next expansion is Murazond.

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>people who don't now that 'the light' in WoW is just faith manifested into magic form, instead of arcane, nature, elemental, etc
>Can also be drawn from the naaru, but half the light magic dranei and humans sling around aren't from the naaru themself, just the unwavering faith in them
>Even undeads can still wield the light with enough faith

>Blizzard conveniently forgets all this to make some dumb roundabout plot point that will make no difference or impact on the story.

>>389233796
>implying he didn't suffer a 10,000 year BDSM sessions with Maiev

>What did they fucking mean by this?
He is cuck eternal.

>>389224056
FOR FUCK SAKE BLIZZARD I JUST WANT LEGACY SERVERS!

>>389233551
Well, to be fair, wasn't Varian protected or blessed by an ancient wolf god? The guy also spent some time as a gladiator, so he knew his shit, he even killed off Onyxia for good in the comics.

What did Vol'jin have? Some spirits we know little about and what else?

>>389234418
they blew their stack on ow. best thing you can do for blizzard is never buy another product.

>>389234418
You think you do...

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>tfw finally killed mythic mistress yesterday after 251 wipes
>no longer a 5/9 mythic meme guild

>>389234418
What's wrong with private servers, too boring? :^)

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>>389233551
Literally the only reason Vol'jin died was because Varian died. Blizzard just wanted Sylvanas as Warchief, they couldn't give any less of a shit about how she'd actually get the job, so they lazily had some random demon stab Vol'jin.
It's almost as if the Alliance side of the cutscene is where most of the budget, time, and effort were spent.

>>389233902
They better not kill Chromie off, I would rather an entire expansion about that trap dragon than the of Captain Negroturban the Rockragon and Anduin McCuck.

>>389234670
>You think you do but you don't!
t. nuBlizzard riding the coattails of their old success.

>>389233957
>Blizzard conveniently forgets all this to make some dumb roundabout plot point that will make no difference or impact on the story
Honestly, I feel like WoW's lore is just too impossibly large for them to handle anymore. Shit's spread across thousands of years, multiple planets, and different timelines covered in countless lore figures and plot threads. I'm not excusing them, but I do thing they dug their own grave over their years.

>>389234679
That's literally it, because the Horde are just non important side characters that have 0 geopolitical weight whatsoever in Azeroth.

Fight me.

>>389232303
One of the comfiest zones created.

>>389234816
Just like those tens of thousands of players on Nostalrius/Elysium

...Oh wait

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>>389234947

>>389234670
no, blizzard just sues them into non existence

>>389234418
but you don't.

>>389235010
From what I've seen, 90% of the time they sue/shut down servers is because they start some services or try to make real life currency from it, servers that don't do it seem to be able to slip

>>389234697
>ChronorMU
>female gnome
Was it ever explained why Chromie is a female gnome? Or did Blizzard just stop giving a shit?

>>389234923
>Most boring faction is the only one that's relevant
Sucks tbqh

>>389235117
Old Blizzard team used to have a sense of humour, is the short answer. Hes meant to be male dragon, I don't think they've ever touched on it because its not worth their time.

>>389224056
>Some giant wind chime is trying to rape you
>Blast it apart
Illidan dindu nuffin

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>Legacy/Private server is so dead the few remnants have to go into retail threads to shitpost

>>389234947
>Shut down a server because it gets too popular
>Unironically stop reporting your own sub numbers
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting, blizzshill.

>>389235310
0.2 cents has been deposited in to your account.

>>389235401
>>389235340
Nostalrius shut down their own servers dear samefag, Elysium is now a russian-run ddosin'g goldselling server which will never get updated

>>389235484
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>389234923
Except the only races that have zero political weight are Tauren, Trolls;_; and Gnomes. Orcs, Undead, and Belves all get shit done to varying degrees.

>>389235613
Gonna spam this is Quinn's chat so he'll see it.

>>389235781
Orcs are immigrants, Undead doesn't matter, and Blood Elves are just an excuse for slutty playermodel and never have been relevant since TBC

>>389235613
I love this meme format

>>389236107
Worgen dont do shit
Dranei are finally getting to do something after doing nothing the entire time
Nelfs ruin everything they touch ever because of incompetence
Gnomes and dwarves equally irellavent except for magni
Humans have lost every decent character and are eternal cucks

Orcs still recollecting from soo but still have saurfang evwn in old age
Undead have the largest military on azeroth aswell as arguably the strongest weapon
All the others are more or less useless until trolls start to chimp out again
Blood elves have negative value since they drain resources because they cant defend themselves from the remnants scourge and trolls

>>389236415
>Nelfs ruin everything they touch ever because of incompetence
It's so true.
>Gnomes and dwarves equally irellavent except for magni
Dwarves are the best race, beards are for heroes and he manliest of midgets.

Undead are best Horde race though.

>>389235613
I e day I'll see this meme used properly.

>>389231649

>2005 - WOW IS RUINED
>2017 - WOW IS RUINED


fuck off like everyone else then

why does blizzard hate naaru so much?

they are constantly being murdered, corrupted or enslaved

illidan is still in the huge faggot character triumverate with arthas and thrall

>>389233957

red shirt guy showed half a decade ago that blizzard doesn't follow or know its own lore they produce, how can you be even remotely surprised

>>389236107
orcs are invaders and have no right to be on that planet

>>389231757
Dark is chaos and light is order.

We've known for ages that the light isn't good. The light doesn't care how evil you are or what horrors you inflict as long as you serve and obey in an ordered fashion. The scarlet crusade was proof of this, even the fucking dreadlord leading them could wield the light.

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>>389229825
>>389229885
>all these religious comparisons regarding said cutscene wherever you go

Fellas, there's a difference between Faith, and Blind Faith.

Nevermind the fact Illidan basically got rid of the problem and narrative issue a majority of people had throughout legion just with one little speech.

I mean, the signs should've been clear when Velen didn't even act like it was a big deal that Windchimes was getting put back together, and even more so afterward

>Oh shit man, this works out, now we can power up the AF machine to implement more diablo mechanics, good thinking Illy

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>>389228287

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>There people who unironically sided with Illidan

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>being anything but a paladin in this patch

>>389224056
"My Destiny is my own! Super Illidan Beam!"

What did he mean by this?

Honestly I just can't take Illidan seriously after this
>I ready to sacrifice anything to defeat legion(says the guy who never sacrificed anything in his life)
>Here, our light gods give you a chance to become here
>please no, I don't want to, I'm sure we can defeat sargera by ourselves
>...
>In the raid: I can't do anything against sargeras on my own except sucking his mighty dick, deus ex machine titans please save my ass
Most pathetic faggot in the history of wow

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why did they even need to bring that illidan faggot back in the first place?

make velen the big hero, or even turalyon

we don't need that MUH SCARS faggot, he should have stayed dead

>>389234627
Go to bed Rhythmz, stop shitposting anime on /v/

>>389224056
babbies first euthyphros dilemma

>>389231737
Probably because chosen one has never ever been a part of WOW's storylines until recently, and they doubled back after the retarded holy dreadlord retardation.

>>389237486
Liam O'Brain needs work.
Also, Turalyon would make sense given he's the Supreme Commander or some shit.

Bottom line, Illidan is here to sell more copies and as an excuse for the Demon Hunter class.

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>>389234697
>>389235117
>>389235254
It was a screwup that could essentially be compared to as a "translation error"

She was always a female, they've stated this.
People who continue to say otherwise are among the overly "pro trans" crowd or are into futashit.
/v/ is mostly filled with the latter.

>Sheik has a dick because Zelda-

>>389237486
He's the bolvar of this expansion.

>There must always be a legion
>but its okay bros, Im just going to sit here on argus keeping sargeras from doing evil shit

>playing WoW beyond TBC
/v/ will defend this

>>389238042
>pretending that Vanilla/TBC was good
/v/ will defend this

>>389237486
He never died.
It was constantly questioned about for years since tBC had terrible writing. (despite being a good xpac at the time)
People have been expecting his return for ages, hell, DH was suppose to come out with tBC.

Would've made the DH vs DK thing a whole lot more meaning to everyone who cares.
Which is evidently a lot since both Illidan and Arthas are the most popular characters in the series

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>>389238067
it was

>that comfy feel when warcraft lore is permanently locked at TBC in your mind because you dropped wrath after a few hours on the beta
>don't have to deal with everyone being corrupted and dying

>>389238217
>muh comfy
ah of course, the infallible argument!

>>389238175
arthas and illidan were also the biggest faggots from wc3

>>389238273
Well, that should tell you something.
About everything.
Blizzard, the fans, anon's opinion

>>389237928
Im pretty sure she was namrd before they decided hard rules on dragon naming system
In hots she even pokes fun at the joke saying shes female iirc

>>389238217
>don't have to deal with everyone being corrupted and dying
literally kael'thas

>>389238237
thanks comfbro, glad we agree

>>389238404
Because she is

>>389237271
He's easily the most entertaining character left. Al others are just "muh honor" "muh justice". Illidan is a true edgemaster, but atleast he's kinda unpredictable.

Even now the villains are shit, gone are the days of Ner'Zhul baiting and outsmarting the Legion with his 5D chess.

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>>389237556
Make me Fredox

I've gotten into 7.3 just recently after I quit somewhere in 7.1. Thank fuck you don't have to grind AP so much and most guilds are very helpful with gear. Got around 910 item level in just a day running with me m8s. Other than that there isn't really shit worth doing in the game.

>>389232303
>reintroduce the wc3 characters multiple times in anyway.

fixed that

are you ready for garrosh again next expansion?

>>389227426
How so?

>>389238689
>Other than that there isn't really shit worth doing in the game.
Literally just spend time pissing around and nothing else.
Decided to go with around forty rogues to sneak around Stormwind because honestly, what else were we going to do?

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Xe'ra annoyed the shit out of me since that fucking Light's Heart chain. Glad she's gone so we can put an end to that retarded "chosen one" nonsense.
Did Blizzard forget the Naaru led the charge against the Black Temple?

>>389224056
the end of the xpac will be something like "Without the Void Light can't exist! THERE ALWAYS HAVE TO BE A VOIDLORD!"

Fucking neutralfags

>>389238620
I mean if the Old Gods/Void hadn't been dragged on for so long (though more so now since they're confirmed to be the next big thing) they could've been cool.

But we can't expect them to go full on Lovecraft at this point since we're not even gonna get to the point of seeing shit like Sargeras himself.

>>389236707
>Alliance led a unified invasion into Northrend
>Horde led a unified invasion into Northrend with the exception of Forsaken forces
>Forsaken, by themselves, led an invasion just as successful, if not more so, than both of the other unified offensives

Why are the Forsaken so good at what they do

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>light is evil
>dark is good

So when you start playing games with GOOD story?

>>389238917
>we're not even gonna get to the point of seeing shit like Sargeras himself.
We do in the 7,3,5 raid after defeating last boss
It ends with illidan shitting himself and begging for fast death

>>389238897
There is no description for the final boss of the expansion, the Argus World Heart boss model is a ruse, the real battle is with Sargeras and the next expansion is a time rewind that will take us back to a level cap of 60 and have us forget all about the Void Lords.

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>>389238896
I want to pump that anus with buckets of cum.

Do we have any drawfags on hand? I'd love to see a void lord with a naaru mask on saying how the naarus are just as evil as the void lords or something.

>>389237908
>and as an excuse for the Demon Hunter class

Dark Ranger would've been way better. It would've added another class that actually uses all those fucking ranged weapons in the game, it would've added another mail-wearing class, they could've been the first healer to use a dark power source, it would've fit with Sylvanas becoming leader of the Horde and I don't actually care all that much why Alliance might've had them it's not like Blizzard really gives a shit about decent explanations anyway.

Also I understand why they didn't make Arakkoa playable but I'm still kinda salty about it.

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>>389239042
b-be gentle

>>389238930
I tried playing this but it's fucking impossible to get into it after oblivion for 500 hours

it probably isn't that good

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>>389238689
>>389238848
I'm not gonna act like Blizzard delivers on constant main content, but you can't say there isn't shit to do with all the tiny shit they constantly add.
>fishing daily rep
>more mounts/toys off new argus mobs
>new mount that requires you to run around the whole game doing puzzles
I mean, whether you want to do it or not is another matter, but when it comes down to taste in what to waste time on, who is to blame?

>>389239171
Nigga please. Monara is a literally perfect slut that likes getting her ass reamed for hours on end. Christ alive the things I'd give...

>>389239225
I get you anon, I just want to do more things with the story and maybe pick a few pockets while I'm at it.
Every time I feel I'm making progress towards a goal of some kind there's a ridiculous grind quest in the way and I have no motivation to do it.

Wow's lore makes a whole lot more sense when you realize all life on Azeroth is a direct result of the Old Gods and the playable races are all more closely aligned with the Void than with the Light. None of the light based creatures are biological.

>>389239021
but Blizzard told me I don't want to be lvl60 again

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>Turalyon's most powerful revenge attack is barely enough to wound an unarmed and weakened Illidan

Goddamn imagine waiting 22 years to get shit on this hard

>>389239042
is this girl made for anal

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>light and darkness are basically mirrors of each other, with the same positives and negatives but different colours

>>389239354
>Muh powerlevels
Back to mexican 4ch/a/n

so all this naaru bullshit since bc was all for nothing because illidan was all "muh no chosen one"?

>>389239361
Not just made for it. She EXISTS for it.
/h/ likes differentiate waifu threads and H-waifu threads. Monara would have to be my latter.

>world heart boss is filler
>real final boss is Sargeras
>only drops weapons since artifacts are destroyed
>guaranteed drops for weapons per difficulty
>Illidan is vaporized
>Kadghar, Turalyon, and Alleria open a gateway that lets us escape before Argus explodes
>realize that with the Legion gone forever the Void Lords have nobody stopping them
>expansion drops
>Void Lords rewind time to Vanilla
>everyone is depowered
>level 60 is the cap
>we finally have legacy servers

>>389239412
It's not even about power levels. All he had to do was prove he could actually damage something properly and he failed

>>389239354
>most powerful revenge attack

He angerly swung his sword at him, while letting up slightly upon hearing his words despite still being mad.
Literally all that happened in that scene.

Stop having autism.

>>389239457
>Illidan is vaporized

Ah, so these are also the legacy people.

>>389239457
Vanilla sucked though

>>389239516
Also look at his eyes. X'era was manipulating him until she died. She even caged Alleria and Turalyon allowed it to happen.

>>389239445
well that's enticing

i hope she has a lot of anal porn to go with that statement

>>389239591
Not Vanilla with Legion+ mechanics. No more 2h swords with spirit/agi on them. No more useless talent trees, no more hit/expertise/spellpen/resistances/defense cap.

>>389239602
>X'era was manipulating him

A sound theory, but one that's up in the air due to it likely being attached to his holy pali powers.

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Expansion when I can serve Lich daddy Bolvar and kill all the living when?

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>>389239670
...go on

>>389239670
So raid bosses with less mechanics than trash mobs in legion?

>>389239670
Keep dreaming with Warcraft 4 anon.

Honestly, the Nost gang had something going for them until they shit themselves in the foot at the end and destroyed all the credibility they built up.

>>389234418

Imagine if authentic quality Legacy servers came out.

How many people would still play the main legion servers? It's a ghost town already for 90% of them.

They won't make legacy servers because they know their (modern WoW) game would die even more.

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>>389239445
Fill me up daddy

>>389239670
>spirit

What were they thinking

>Playing a DK
>Wanting to serve anyone
I think you missed the point my man

>>389239726
What was it about Legion+ mechanics that you didn't comprehend or do I have to list everything out for you? Use your imagination.

>>389239516
He tried his absolute fucking best to kill him with one powerful strike.

Take your own advice

>>389239649
Sadly her artist has pretty much abandoned not just her, but producing actually quality art in general.
But not before putting out dozens of delicious, delicious fuckin' ass poundings.

>>389239801
There was a short time early one when warriors had a talent that increased mp5, good times.

Just kidding vanilla was a mess mechanically.

>>389239879
Shhh no one around here is willing to admit that

>>389239795
tfw bookmarked 3 separate potentional Monara's to role play with but haven't bothered to put together a big dick motherfucker to rut around in that ass with.

>>389239879
Vanilla with fixed TBC class balance (actual dps ret, no totem twisting and other bullshit) would be amazing

>>389239859
He's asking for ridiculous amounts of money for commissions and goes apeshit when anyone else uses the character without his permission, especially when it's futa related.

>>389240035
Yup. Very disappointing. All I want is more ass fucking.

>>389240137
Your own ass?

I
AM
MY
SCARS

>>389240174
kek
If I looked like that slut then sure.

>>389239750
Anon, every private server you play on that appears to have a fuckton of people is just a congestion of people who are dedicated enough to want to play an old game.

Beyond these people, everyone else who would attempt to play on a legacy if presented to them would only do so for a small period of time before reverting back to the "easier" life of the current game. Not because it's better, but "easier". These people are already/have been playing current WoW.

Despite what your favorite youtuber told you, the majority of people on current private servers aren't people who miss the old game, but people who never actually owned the game due to not wanting to pay a subscription. These are the same people who drop more money than they ever would playing WoW on F2P Korean MMOs.

>>389234947
nostalrius had 10k online regularly until blizzard shut them down because they realised classic wow was more popular on a per-server basis than the current game

>>389235484
>Nostalrius shut down their own servers dear samefag
lmao, literally fake news you fucking cuck. blizzard threatened to sue them so they had to shutdown

>>389240329
>Muh nostalgia numbers

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>>389240305
I think you might be a little gay anon.

>>389234627
now your guild can go and disband on avatar.
mfw started mistress yesterday

>>389240385
Present the evidence, nost team shut their own servers down on their own volition

>Calls fake news, when he posts fake news

>>389231310
Don't you have everything to sacrifice, Illidan?

>>389240385
>He didn't read their post-blizzcon post

The post that destroyed any chance of legacy that they had built.

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>Raise 6 Champions to 950 Item Level.

>>389240385
>They didn't shut down their own servers
>What they did, is they shut down their own servers

???

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>>389240392
Listen mate. I'm lonely enough that I'm more than willing to RP a throat slut (my favorite kind) if it means a net gain of more throat slut porn for me to later enjoy. You won't see me bedding a man (or woman, for that matter ;_;) but I fully recognize that if I woke up 100% Monara as if by magic, the remainder of my sexy blue days would be spent making sure my anus doesn't go to waste.

>>389235613
me on the right exept sex

>>389237437
>(says the guy who never sacrificed anything in his life)
lmao he literally sacrificed his own body and 10k years of his life, how is that "nothing"?

>>389240329
10k was pretty impressive for one private server.

But let's be real, current WoW may be shit and their subscriber count dwindling, but they're still in the millions.

Math aside, even if we're just looking at INTEREST level, just 1 Million is stupidly bigger thank a 10k group of players who most likely make up a decent sum of people who never owned the game anyway.

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>>389240816
Most people played nost because it was fucking free too.

>Get character to 60
>sell it to chinks

Ridiculous state of affairs, no private server is worth it.

>>389239137
>It would've added another class that actually uses all those fucking ranged weapons in the game,
irrelevant because of artifacts

>>389241017
For now, maybe. Still, the point is that there's, what, two specs in the entire game that use ranged weapons? Hunters have a melee spec right now, yeah?

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>>389241180
Demon Hunters have be far more relevant than dark rangers anon.

People were appalled Monk got in before Demon Hunter.

Now if we were talking about Shadow Hunter...

>>389241180
>Hunters have a melee spec right now, yeah?

yeah, and it's a huge failure

>>389241180
gib tinker

>>389241295
>>389241305
Shadow Hunter and Tinker when

Trolls and Gnomes have had a connection

>>389241180
Just give rogues ranged spec.

>>389241380
Leave Outlaw as is though please.
Best thing to happen to the class in years.

>>389241295
>Shadow Hunter
You mean "Shaman but slightly different"

>>389241456
>Best thing to happen to the class in years.
Too bad it's fucking useless.

>>389241482
Well all the classes in the game are literally either "warrior but slightly different" or "mage but slightly different".

>>389241456
Outlaw is literally trash, it's shit to play, it's shit on single target, it's shit on AoE, it's shit for prog, it's shit for parsing, it's shit for farm. The only use for Outlaw is using grappling hook to make it easier to get around in places without flying.

Outlaw is in every way just a shittier Combat.

>the big twist is literally Star Trek 5

wow

>>389241482
Too bad it's fucking fun

>>389241547
they even copied the famous line
>I am my pain!

>my scars are my own

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>>389241543
>prog
>parsing
>farm

Assassin is still a thing my brother man.

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>The fate of creation hangs in the balance

Why Starcraft is much better than Warcraft?

>>389241543
>it's shit to play

Did you ride on the uselessness that was Combat for years?

>>389240663
m8 make a goat and go on moonguard receive moneys

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>>389241636
>Assassin is still a thing

It sure is. Right down the bottom next to Outlaw.

>>389241543
>Make a spec entirely dependant on RNG
>Can't make it viable because if its viable people complain the difference between a top 50 and top 200 parse is purely down to roll the bones
>Can't remove roll the bones because it's the only piece of flavor left in the entire spec
>Just let it rot for a whole expansion

How can they make such a big blunder when they've been making this game for so long

daily reminder that MoP was the best expansion after TBC

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>>389241702
Because it's not

>>389227840
i'm playing warcraft non-stop since Tides of Darkness fucboi

>>389241759
>balance druid
>spriest
What's the point of 'pure DPS' classes again?

>>389241759
>percentile chart
>not dps chart

anon, are you dum dum

>>389241830
>Has no idea what Warcraftlogs is or how to read it
>Makes himself look like an idiot

That's a performance metric made up of roughly 100,000 raid logs. with specs ranked out of 100 based on their average DPS.

>>389241759
>BM very bottom

I saw this easy ride coming to a halt from a mile away.

But man, if only I could give a fuck.

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>>389241759
>All bosses

>>389227840
>WoW starts with Thrall violently occupying Lordaeron
>Everyone is apparently ok with this
>t-tbc is what reall ruined the lore!

>>389241759
>Pure tears
Fuck off, I bet you weren't complaining when both dk specs were bottom 3 dps in EN and blood was the worst tank they couldn't even be used against cenarius.
Or when monks were the worst at everything during NH.
At least you know you'll always have at least one viable spec because all you faggots do is cry if mage lock and hunter aren't top 4.

>>389241890
>performance metric
>still not a dps chart

anon, I...

>>389241925
If BM did good DPS it would be OP as fuck because it's literally impossible to play it wrong. You just mash 123 in no particular order and you do your best possible DPS.

>>389241990
>you'll always have at least one viable spec
>rogues in wod and pandas

>>389224056

Light =/= Good

Light = Order

It's not Jesus, it's an iron fist of holy sparkles.

>>389242085
>Rogues in wod
Are you trying to be retarded? remember when Sub was the best spec in the game for 14 months?

>>389242143
No, but I sure as hell remember when Arcane was the best spec in the game for 14 months. Followed closely by Affliction.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV3dBSHBbVo

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>>389239795
>>389239042

>The name "Monara" is taken on my server but some under level 10 loser that probably hasn't played in forever.
>Blizz don't free up names unless the account has been completely inactive for two expansions running

I'm so fucking mad about this. I mean yeah my goat is one of the biggest whores on my server and I've fucked my way through hundreds of partners but I want THAT name.

The things I would do man.

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>>389242202
>ERPers

>>389242202
Who the fuck is Monara

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>>389241739

>tfw too slutty to ask for money

I have aquired a very strange sugardaddy who funnels gold (30k at least) at me just for /dance'ing at him though. But thats besides the point.

>>389239858
>powerlevels

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>>389242202
>you will never be an actual hot slut

>>389242637

born too early

>>389227840
>>WC's lore has been a complete shitshow since TBC
>implying warcraft lore isn't absolute shit when you take a look at medivh "abandon everything and move your entire civilization to a land you never went to, no? ok, i did my job" absolute imbecile plot on top of muh honorable murderous child killing orcs on top fo jaina killing her own father.

>Now that you're done shilling, please let them know some of us are interested in legacy servers.

You think you want, but you don't.

How's leveling now,worth trying?

>>389242182
Arcane was trash for progression, farming a raid/cheesing is not the same thing

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>>389242734

>>389242876
>take quest
>oneshot everything
>repeat

>>389242876

What do you mean? You mean is it fun? No. Fast? It's okay, but it doesn't feel it. Worth anything? Nope. Levelling only exists to sell boosts at this point.

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>>389231575
>it's clear the writers don't give a shit about us.
Good, horde crybabies muh honored shitheads child murderos it was the fel/undeath plz let me kill u so reviver into forsakekn dindu nufin we'regood in heart folk are retarded anyway.

Mop's ending was stupid as it was, be glad you came along in OUR spaceship.

>>389234679
>It's almost as if the Alliance side of the cutscene is where most of the budget, time, and effort were spent.
now imagine if entire zones, quest chains and work was put off alliance zones (worgen, human and cata quests post 80..)

It sucks and i really wish they didn't do it but it happens to both factions mate.

>>389241702
>dude protoss will be so much better when they become literally the same as humans!

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>>389227426
I never trust anything that exclusively communicates through cluster head aches.

>>389236415
>Worgen dont do shit
>*kills the banshe queen

>>389227426
everything about naaru is retarded
>all this time paladins were actually worshiping cosmic lightbulb aliens
fuck BC apologists. It ruined warcraft

>>389242916
Arcane was literally the only viable spec for prog in HFC. You're talking about Fire.

>>389244029
Fire was viable for nearly every fight

Dumb fucks don't understand that Human, Dwarves, Gnomes, and Forsaken are literally Old God creations. Siding completely with the side that wants to eradicate the shadow is retarded.

>>389244079
You didn't play a mage in HFC did you? Fire was reliant on the crafted crit trinket, which was a proc on hit rather than an on-use. It made Fire fantastic for Farm where you could tunnel hard, but it wasn't reliable enough for prog. You also literally COULDN'T play fire on Mythic Gorefiend because you'd kill the ghosts passively with Combust and Ignite and wipe the gorup every pull.

>>389244159
I mained warrior and cleared mythic and subbed mage, firemage was good for basically anything that wasn't assault or gorefiend

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>been waiting 4 expansions for Anduin to be the chosen one of Light and Dark
>cucked again by making illidan the bait savior
Is the next expansion finally our turn with the void lords? I would've rather seen a grieving young ruler make a horrible decision by accepting Xera's prophecy and have to deal with the fallout instead of edgedaddy illidan making his tumblr debut.

>>389239435
they apparently only exist for blizzard to murder and corrupt

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>>389227426

The only thing I hated about her was her sucking Illidan's dick.

If it was Anduin's (or any other candidate for 'child of light and shadow') dick I would have not given a single fuck, but this whole ILLIDAN IS DA BESSST!!!!! theme of Legion can fuck right off.

The only good thing about him is Liam O'Brien.

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>hey lets bring back illidank everyone loves illidank
>what do you mean people dont like illidank being back?
>I know! lets create an even more annoying character that illidank can kill so that people will love him again
>what do you mean people still dont like illidank

>>389244994
but everyone likes illidan

>>389232451
Go back to /pol/

>>389235613
You can tell a virgin made this one since its all about sex.

>>389245307

By virtue of being a meme you can tell a virgin made it.

>>389224056

>no porn of xe'ra sucking off illidan yet

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>>389232452
The Horde is for faggots anyway, besides Goblins, so who cares if they don't get the spotlight?

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>>389244316

So when is he going to get his kingpucci ruined by Wrathion

>>389244825
Making Illidan literally 'the chosen one' has to be one of the dumbest pieces of writing in WoW lore, pandas don't even come close.

>>389243874
wait what? sylvanas died?

Everyone should've fucking did a roaring cheer when illidan said there are no chosen ones, I'm tired of being treated like I'm fucking god every expansion only to still have the spotlight stolen by some fucking npc and other npcs still giving me sass anyway

>>389239435
Just watch, it will turn out that this was all part of the prophecy and Illidan end up being the chosen one precisely because he resisted it.

A'dal would've asked Illidan if he wanted it and been okay with whatever answer.


Xe'ra was a horny fucking cougar.

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>>389245812
>Illidan end up being the chosen one precisely because he resisted it.

>>389233551
Voljin is a smart and collected leader.

Varian is a warrior first before a leader.

While dumbass varian will let the alliance die on the broken shore Voljin said fuck that we fight another day.

Voljin made the better decisions but he is no warrior.

>>389232597
Kinda like HL3. Better it never happens so the shitstorm doesn't happen either.

>>389246770
why didn't the horde simply signal the alliance they had to retreat?

So where the fuck is Sargeras if he isn't on argus?

>>389246770
If not for the asspull mcguffins the Broken Shore would have been THE ONLY chance to stop the Legion. You win or you die, retreating is just asking to get killed a little later.

>>389245779
he's literally blizzard's chosen one now that green jesus is gone

>>389247412
Twisting Nether? I mean, isn't the point that literally everything you're doing is a waste of time since demons never die, they just return to the nether and come back?

>>389247445
This.

>>389247445
The only chance was retreat.

Everyone was going to die for fucking nothing. Dumbass varian didn't see that neither did his dumb dog that can't lead his people outside a paper bag.

The heroes of azeroth would have died there for nothing. Voljin did the right thing.

God damn it pisses me off how stupid they write greymang. They write him like a fucking moron.

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>second war story>war3
warcraft 3 is where the tumbrlhordies began to appear too.

the current horde is a forced mess with allegiances that make no sense

>>389248079
You seem to be having trouble understanding this.
At the Broken Shore our chances of victory were as high as they were ever going to get. After that point the world would be flooded with billions of demons.

>>389224056
'Dark is not bad and Light is not good' is by far the most cliched of 'twist'.

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>>389248082
warcraft 3 is when they started to make the horde dindu's and "muh honorable savages". if only they stayed true to their roots they would be way better

when were night elf men ever beings of light?

they were either arcane cock suckers or muh dream nature faggots

illidan is so fucking forced in this

>>389248523
Yes it was...but did you miss the whole part where the demons kept coming and we were going to die?

Yes the invasion could have ended there. But the alliance and horde got overrun. Victory was not possible anymore.

Unless you want to be like the dumbfuck greymang and blame the horde on why the broken shore failed.

>>389249974
>hurr there are too many demons here, lets retreat and wait until there are a million times as many demons instead

>>389239354
What did you expect from a former raid boss?

>>389239814
>"We're free n shit we won't serve anyone"
>"Obey or I free the scourge"
>"O-okay"
Based daddy Bolvar putting DK in their place

>>389250058
Huuur that plan worked...

>>389250289
Because Khadgar pulled some mcguffins out of his ass. Somehow we didn't think to use those last time the Legion was here and somehow nobody on any of the other billion Titan ordered planets thought to use theirs.

>>389245679
A few times yes, but she got rezed by valks every time.

Now, in theory, she's out of them so the next death is permanent but blizzard will find a way to go around that

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>>389224056
it's almost like...
illidan says....
velen was....
blinded....
by his faith?!?!?1?

>>389250665
She's not out of valkyr she has like 3 more of the greater valkyr

>>389231509
Who Hand of A'dal here?

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Somebody needs to stop Illidan

>>389242637
on the internet, nobody cares if youre *actually* a girl, cause they all assume youre male before you meet them

>>389249478

What do you think Elune is?

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the party never ends!

>>389251287
worshipped by night elf women

the men fucked off to nature

>>389251198
he was stopped like 4 expansions ago

gotta bring him back for a reason that makes 0 sense tho

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>>389238896
>>389239042
Yes yes!

>>389234679
>Sylvanas as Warchief
Non-WoW player here who hasn't really been invested in the lore post-WC3, why is Sylvanas Warchief, let alone a member of the Horde?

>>389251593
Because literally every other major Horde character is dead.

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>>389251659
Shame they're not all dead.

Filthy horde scum.

>>389251659
What happened to all the other clans and first and second war veterans that would most certainly be pissed about having to be lead by some random zombie elf?

>>389251902
Vol'jin is dead, Thrall is so cucked he might as well be dead, Cairne is dead, Baine is even more cucked than Thrall. Trolls have no faction leader at all currently, and Orcs only have Saurfang.
The second most relevant horde lore character at the moment is fucking Gallywix.

>>389251902
>tfw garrosh will never lead the horde to victory
i'd switch to horde if they had a competent leader like Garrosh. Nigga tried to get shit done and the horde were so afraid of war they basically joined the alliance.

We can all agree that Forsaken should never have been part of the Horde and should have been their own lone faction instead. Same with the Night Elves

>>389251593
they ran out of ideas of what to do with the horde since it has no reason to exist

>>389251593

>has played WC3
>wonders why sylvanas is in the Horde


is this fucking bait

>>389252016
*raises hand* L-Lor'themar?

>>389251902
They all died because 99% of them were caroonishly evil.

>>389252246
The forsaken shouldn't have been a faction at all, they should've been neutral quest givers whom we eventually annihilate because they're literally evil.
Sylvanas would've been a nice little raid boss and then that would've been the end of that

>>389252383
>second war veterans
>cartoonishly evil

Most of those orcs were like Saurfang that still hear the cries of the Draenei children they have slaughtered at night, high on demon crack. Oh wait, that has been undone by the time travel nonsense, they dindu nuffin now, so they might as well be, nevermind me.

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>>389241759
>WW that low
Time for a new main then or get mouseovers to actually work for MW

>>389252365
>Last time he even APPEARED was in Siege of Orgrimmar
>All he even did was say a few lines then disappear

>>389252526
WW is actually pretty good on single target, one of the better melee. It's just that melee in general are getting shit all over by pretty much every ranged on fights with multiple targets, which is almost every fight in Tomb.

>>389245245

Nice argument you got ther-

>>389251902
Literally all of them died in SoO. The spine of the orcs were ripped out in that raid.

>>389252616
Good thing 15 rogues is standard for clearing mythic so meleebabies can fuck right off

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>>389241996

You can't be this fucking retarded

>>389252505
they were savages before sucking demon cocks

i read the WC 1 manual

>>389245639
He was the chosen one since the start, he just refused to do it.

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So how do horde players reconcile that they're literally playing the unambiguously evil faction?

>>389232860
Go back and critique Diablo 2 with the same pessimism. It's just as "bad". So is everything you're nostalgic about.

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>bring turalyon and alleria back
>force them to work with the horde

>>389253324
I wonder how Alleria will react to Sylvanas

>>389253221
They have Sylvanas and apparently someone who poisons cities to raise the undead and capture valkyrs is better than a redpilled hippie.