Best MMORPG Ever and why ?

Transformice

Camelot Unchained will be.

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>>389223419

>inb4 "not an mmo"

yeah? neither is your World of MapleFFXIVCraft Desert """online""" where you literally play a single player game from 1 to the level cap. Instanced games/rooms with 4 players always worked better because people would ACTUALLY PLAY TOGETHER instead of existing in a world where everyone else is playing their own single player game.

>>389225375
Fucking loved PSO on the Dreamcast. Same guy from earlier. God bless.

EverQuest
cause I like it. Really, it had a ton of problems. I'd love to see what it would be like with more active combat though. I don't mean some action mmo bullshit either, just a little closer to vanilla WoW so melee classes aren't auto attack + kick

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>>389223419
It's just on temporary hiatus! It'll come back! Like the brightest phoenix, you'll all be blinded by it's beauty! Y-you'll see! Haha! Yeah, yeah, you'll all see... oh just fucking neck me.

>>389223419
That's not ffxi

>>389225375
not an mmo ;)

old runescape

>>389227218
This and world of Warcraft are the only correct answers.

>>389223419
Closed Beta Archeage

>>389223419
World of Warcraft.

Biggest sub base, longest running, most influential, made the genre famous.

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because. RIP in ripip.

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>>389227408
>most influential

Fuuuuuuuck you.

>>389227408
I'd say EQ made the genre "famous" but it's WoW that basically Cawadoody'd the fuck out of the genre, widening the audience.

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This is not the best MMO but I desperately want to play it. The private servers will never exist, I've given up hope.

>>389227341
This, also BAKA are fags.

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I've probably played / come back to Wurm Online (and then Unlimited) the most over the years.

Something about going out in the woods and being eaten by a bear to make you feel like a man.

Ragnarok

EVE Online. It's at true player driven sandox. These is no other sandbox like it.

>>389223419
>3rd world language
try again

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it had it's problems, for sure. but i loved it.
it had so much potential, but squandered all of it after the first expansion.
the first two years were fucking great, though.

good lore, good art direction, and a phenomenal OST: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buYujK-31XM

>>389227773
uniqueness does not equate to being good

>>389227773
the G stands for Game

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>>389225170
If any company can breathe life back into mmo's, they can.

Star Wars Galaxies. So much potential.

>>389227773
https://youtu.be/LmS9vcVNr5A

>>389227525
Oh good, I'm not the only oldfag here.

DE SK for life niggah.

>>389225375
It is an mmo though. Hub worlds don't disqualify it. Whoever says otherwise is a moron.

>>389227451

i liked carrying my friend around as an M Gear
he was an A gear that used a Shield build with a level 62 purple Dolce...twas interesting.

WoW Burning Crusade. The game was just right in everything at the right time and the success behind it shows it. Crossing the dark portal for the first time and proceeding to Zangarmarsh was experience that no game before or after recaptured. Great setting, good pvp, outstanding ambient music. The game was not balanced but I don't think a good MMO has to be and it's even detrimental to its design imo.

>>389228273
Human Cleric, I was the master class with the improved Resurrection.

Ultima Online, because fuck you.

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>>389223419
Sadly they're both dead.

>>389223419
who cares MMORPG is a dying genre
PUBG and mobas are the future

>>389228628
What killed Vanguard anyhow? I know it was a mess at launch, but that was par for the course back then. Just low sub numbers?

>>389228545
Right on. Played on inoruuk server oh so many years ago. I miss it from time to time but tried going back once and well... it unfortunately didn't age well. Prime time to play was during velios and kunark expansions imo. Luclin and planes of power were last good expansions, after that quality just went down.

Runescape

Original guild wars.
Good story.
Low level cap to cut out the crap of having to spend forever to get to the actual content.
Skip the endless void maps with nothing to do and provides what people actually play in mmorpgs, instances.
Provides the option to skip PvE entirely and play PvP without gear farming.
PvP based on play skill and not gear.
PvE soloable that is still fun to play with people.
Different challenges on PvE

>>389228767
basically, soe only bought it to take out an eq2 competitor and promptly put it on life support. not even switch to f2p or being flavor for soe all access pass was enough to keep it around.

>>389228842
I played on the PS2, all they had was online adventures and frontiers.

>>389228945
Holy shit I forgot they even had those ps2 releases. Looking back on it I wonder how those even came about on a sony machine.

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if only the pve hadn't been garbage

>>389229046

Dude that game had fucking amazing character design and unique classes... but something was wrong at its core

Is Lord of the Rings online still worth playing for its story? I remember it used to be really cinematic in its design but I have no idea what its like now. Everquest 2 used to be really cool too but last time I played it was absolutely nothing like I remember it being.

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Dragon's Dogma Online
Except it will never come out here

>>389226548
>238 playing 30 min ago

>>389229046
>>389229105
Because WAR was torn to all sides with its priorities. You can tell Mythic basically wanted to make DAoC 2.0 and then EA took over only to decide they want their WoW.

>>389225375
Sega had the best ads for this game.

>"The gaming population is the entire population of the world!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyEnJCgTZds

>>389226548
fugg I liked that game so much but they did NOTHING with it. FUCK SEGA

>>389225375
Not an MMO

>>389223419
FFXI

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>>389228628
>SWGEMU actually published a new major build
>game appears to be 90% done expect for JTL
There's no way they can actually drag it out another year or two is there?

>>389224589
Can I join your tribe?

>>389228628
Man Vanguard's cover art was fan-fucking-tastic

>>389230515
Man, I can't stand SWGEmu community for some reason. It's like the worst retail cliques made it over and turned it into a circle jerk .

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>>389223419
Guild Wars 2.

It's just barely good, but that just speaks about the MMO genre in general.

>>389227218
Still around, thank god.

>>389225170
>>389228053
Is this shit really still not in beta or anything?

>>389228628
I miss SOE so fucking much.

>ITT more "MMO" fags who don't actually like MMOs

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>>389228273
>>389228545
Oldfags unite. High Elf Cleric, the days of having to ask friends to help me camp Epic Quest drops because I couldn't tie up the phone line for 24 hours straight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FApd8q19CqE

>>389230829
What type of circle jerk? One of the ones where they're too busy cumming in their own mouths to give a shit about new people or one of the ones where it's just a bunch of people that end up knowing each other due to small community? I haven't really played it much at all since me and my friends have been waiting for the Beta wipe to start playing.

>>389230872
I know it's a really petty complaint but I absolutely cannot stand the glamazon aesthetic the game has. That and the low number of skills available to you at any one time got boring incredibly quickly.

A little MIDI nostalgia for my EQbros.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKj36GJj_i8

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>If MoP lasted forever, it would be WoW
>If Heavensward lasted forever, it would be XIV

>>389227525
>single-handedly ruined MMOs
>not the most influential

Ragnarok Online has the best mixture of style, mechanics, and existing at the right point in time to not be garbage. Even in its modern state it's more challenging than modern MMOs built around modern mechanics.

Tree of Savior had potential at first, but caught on fire instead of improving.

MMOs will never improve as a genre until the whole world doesn't achieve Korea tier internet speeds. The mmo dark ages continues.

If it's not EQ then it has to be WoW. They were cut from the same cloth with WoW increasing the tempo with a similar formula.

Honestly I don't see another revolution in the genre until blizzard kills its own game.

>>389231128
By faction I should hate you but oldfags are hard to find so it's cool. Remember the days of EC tunnel haggling? Couldn't even explain that to people nowadays.

>>389230872
every aspect of GW2 ranges from throughly mediocre to straight up shit

what an awful game

Lineage II Interlude Chronicle

Nothing will ever top this. I still play on private servers with 2-3k always online

>>389228897
dude, you couldnt even fucking jump in that game

>>389228273
>>389227525
>>389231128
>>389231921
My dad played EQ you geezers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKDkvy9sKuY

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>>389231979
I don't appreciate the hyperbole.

>>389231128
>because I couldn't tie up the phone line for 24 hours straight.

Fucking 56k days. Kids nowadays have no idea what it was like to routinely lose connection due to bullshit beyond your control.

>>389229420
I still enjoy it, but I'm an rpfag. To be fair, though, I haven't played in a while. I think the Mordor expansion came out this week

>>389224589
fpbp
btfo'ing rats with the power of the anvil and cannon

>>389231279
>That and the low number of skills available to you at any one time got boring incredibly quickly.

It doesn't really make a difference to other games where you "have" like 40+ skills at any one time. Because in games like that with gorillion skills most of them are just dead skills or more likely just not relevant to your build at all and not even worth having on your hot bar.

It's an illusion of choice having a tonne of skills at any "one time".

Also, you can just play elementalist or engineer with kits if you want that illusion of choice, since ele can "have" 40~ skills at any one time if you slot in conjured weapons which give you different sets of 5 skills, along with the 20 attunement skills.

In the end you'll still be using the same hand full of skills rotation length, any niche skills you may need to a specific encounter can just be slotted in for that encounter. It makes it so you actually have to think about the skills you bring to an encounter.

>>389232197
it's not, I hate myself for wasting money on cosmetic shit because the actual in game sets are so fucking ugly

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>>389229420
LotRO is now a lot more about following current events and chasing the Fellowship versus your own smaller stories in the background on grand scheme of things. Also, Mordor and model updates.

City of Heroes. Everyone acknowledges its positives, and died young enough to avoid being destroyed by time.

>>389232468
Freeform hero mmos are the fucking best and I'm sad we don't have more of them.
The only alternative right now is Champions Online which is on life support and the devs completely forgot about it.

>>389231128
17 year vet here. Only reason i quit recently was because i couldnt combine the dedication i needed there with my work and school obligations.
Iksar SK master race.

>>389228574
the only correct answer

>>389232553
>>389231128

Is this game still running? Is it worth getting into at this stage?

I hate how formulaic MMORPGs are now, I'd like something a bit less "guided"

>>389232335
As someone that's always enjoyed messing around with utility skills and figuring out creative ways of using them, I fucking loathe that mindset in MMOs. The fact that there's always gonna be a shorter optimal rotation in combat isn't justification for removing everything that's not relevant to that rotation.

I wish I could just be in a fantasy world as a regular adventurer, local monster hunter, some kind of bodyguard for hire, or other mundane kind of fighting job in a low-magic setting.

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I still play WoW

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>>389228935
I still don't know how I feel about EQ2.

>>389226548
Not an MMO. All content is instanced and for 1-4 players only.
Also fuck you for making me remember what happened to it.

>>389232784
Me too, with my wife, very casually. She is utterly shit at video games so it speaks volumes out the game's ease of use and difficulty level that she can succeed in WoW. She shits the bed in most dungeons though and hates the "rush through" mentality of PUGs.

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someone rec me some MMOs with good zone themeing/art design

I've been playing GW2 a bit lately, and while I enjoy it for the most part, the zones are as dull as they come
last time I really enjoyed the design of a zone in an MMO was Rift's first expansion

>>389232885
PUGs in MMOs have become complete shit ever since automated group finders became the norm. You cannot automate an activity that requires a degree of socialization without losing something vital in the process.

>>389232760
>The fact that there's always gonna be a shorter optimal rotation in combat isn't justification for removing everything that's not relevant to that rotation.

It kinda is though. A dead skill on your hotbar that is never touched during an encounter is no different than just not slotting a skill on your bar in gw2.

>>389232758
Its changed somewhat over the years. It is very topheavy on regular servers, and the free to play system has not changed with the era, holding it back.

Some people would say go with the Agnarr PoP-locked server, or go to P99, which is locked at Velious. I disagree. The gameplay in classic era EQ was punishing, yes, awesome. but Its also tedious, and reliant on an abysmal concept of class balance. Even more of an sissue, you had nothing to do after a certain point, especially pre-luclin when you dont have AAs to grind out.

My ideal window for the game is PoP -> Secrets of Faydwer. If you want to experience that era, you could go to Phinigel server, but its still top heavy there. It will be a painful grind to max level for most classes. But you get to experience what i personally would call the 'golden age' of the game. If you can get into a raid guild (there are ~20 on phinny) you can experience significantly more complex raids, better class balance, and more interaction than you would ever find in 'classic' era EQ.

>tldr: fuck classic EQ, Give it a shot if you dont mind soloing at low levels. Live servers are easier to reach max level than progression servers.

>>389232963
This is why I prefer GW2's LFG system to others like XIV and WoW which just automate you into roles.

GW2's LFG is more like a bulletin board where you advertise yourself or your group and what you're after specifically. It gives you a lot more flexibility.

>>389232915
>someone rec me some MMOs with good zone themeing/art design

I definitely agree with you on the gw2 zones, especially the early vanilla zones being lacking in good aesthetic, it's one of the aspect I feel other games like XIV or BDO do better.

Though the new zones in PoF look like they're going to be really great.

>find out about new Pantheon MMO
>looks like and plays like old EQ
>its probably never going to get finished
>even if it does its probably going to be garbage

>>389223419

Mabinogi after Iria update but not current shit

>>389227831
i feel you mang, rift's first two years were a blast

>>389233514
I don't know. You probably couldn't make a blander MMORPG than RIFT if you tried. Which is weird when you consider the Souls system it has.

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>>389232784
I would still be playing WoW if everything surrounding Raids/encounters wasn't such a hassle. I liked the mechanical challenge while being part of a team, not farming mats for buff items or running the same boss over and over so I can get a drop that lets me actually contribute fully. And then feeling disappointed when the item finally drops but it isn't titanforged. I am fully aware that all that shit is there to keep people playing and invested, aka a skinner box, but it's ironically the thing that drove me away.

>>389232963
The ability to actually get a group going in a reasonable amount of time is nice, but it wasn't worth it considering how badly it hurt the concept of server community.

>>389233072

Class balance on phinny is still sorta fucked. If it's like quarm, everything that isn't a rogue is about to take a backseat for quite a while. Berserkers are still completely useless aside from giving actual dps their warcry. But hey, better than agnarr will ever be. Fuck motm.

maplestory

WoW. Everything else I've ever tried either dies or has some serious bullshit going on preventing it from being truly great. ArcheAge in its prime was the closest we've ever come to seeing perfection and now it's just fucking dogshit. Black Desert is okay, but it becomes a second job if you're not willing to spend real money on it every month and want to stay relevant at endgame.

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>mmorpgs are doomed to a life of mysery
even in the concept that one is actually good, there's no way to break-paddle it from going from good to shit because you have to keep shoving in content like a fucking machine and people will eventually become overpowered because you need something to pad that new content that makes it more important than the previous content.

I mean, look at this fucking image, it's based on a session with the devs by some lucky lads who love maberustory to their core and the fuckers are too dense to understand that the entire country is already playing the shitty 2d sidescrolling game.

The korean MMO community has been screaming for co-op play and more older MMO type MMOs, but korean developers for some reason avoid these pleas. In the last 5 years, over 24 korean MMOs have been shutdown.

>>389230957
>Is this shit really still not in beta or anything?
...kinda close to beta1 but pretty hit or miss anon
unfortunately

>>389232187
That's fitting now. I'm a dad. wtf else am I gonna do but talk about good ole days anymore?

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>>389234064
Genre will never undergo a paradigm shift after a decade of condition by WoW. People now think of WoW as baseline MMORPG. You could make the hottest new shit and even people who claim they want something new and out there would dismiss because it would be too alien to them.

>>389223419
>feel the mmo itch again
>install tera
>it's pretty fun
>remember that mmos are a fucking waste of time
>uninstall after 2 hours

>>389234387
Games in general are a waste of time.
Your life is also a waste of time in the end, end it all lad, end it all./

>>389234236
To be fair a lot of MMOs that come out can't even copy concepts as basic as the responsiveness of controls or an extremely clear artstyle from WoW after a decade.

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Wow there's a lot of
>MY THEMEPARK MMO SHIT IS BETTER THAN YOUR THEMEPARK MMO SHIT
faggots in here

Absolutely disgusting. Not only did you guys kill the genre, you argue about which Everquest clone "was the best".

>>389234387
You're better off doing that with Tera. It's fun until endgame and you find out upgrading is based solely on gambling.

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>>389234438

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>>389232915
Vanilla areas (at least up to Orr) are super dull, but it gets much better when you reach the more recent stuff.

>>389234445
Funnily enough, not even WOW can copy WOW anymore.

They gave the reigns to some hackjob lawyer and now the game is suffering.

>>389234445
blizzard simply had a lot of dosh to throw at the game initially and it showed in unparalleled level of polish compared to everything else. I think a lot of mmos don't necessarily want that same feeling, for good and bad. some like ff14 value visual flourish and choreography more.

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>>389232784

nothing shameful about it, its good gaem

>>389235114
WOW has been shit longer then it has been good at this point.

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>>389235234

blah blah parrot more faggot can't stop me from having fun with the most polished MMO on the market

the truth is you flaming homosexuals grew casual and can't stand the grind of WoW anymore, instead of admitting it you just call it shit and pretend it was never good when in fact it permanently signed your childhood and stole most of your time

it's like having an ex gf and claiming she was a bitch when she took your virginity and made you cum countless times

>>389223419
holy shit is that allods???

dear lord, allods is like the first crush of MMO's to me, i never got over it and i never found a good enough substitute :(

>>389235387
I would grind forever on a vanilla WOW server.

Problem with nu-WOW is all your grinding is reset, every, single, patch, to the point that its pointless and boring.

I've moved onto other MMOs that are less polished then WOW, but unlike WOW, they actually focus on long term goals and multiplayer elements, WOW is just one massive single player action game that has a retarded subscription model that makes no sense.

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>>389235387
>Plays WOW
>calls others casual

Nigga, WOW is -the- casual MMO, the problem isn't that its hardcore in any way shape or form, its simply not fun.

>>389235387
>wow
>most polished mmo on the market

*breathes in*

HAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAAAHAHHAAHAAHAAAAAHAHHAAAAAAHHAAHAHAHAHHAAAHAHAHAHAAAHHAHAHAAAHAHAHAAHHAA

>>389236207
It it was at one point, though thats not saying much for MMOs who will always be technically limited due to necessities for player scalablility.

Problem with shit like modern MMOs, like nu-WOW is they forget that they're MMOs, which means massively multiplayer, yet design content for less people then you get on a round of TF2

>>389233274
>its probably never going to get finished
If there's an upcoming MMO that's going to get finished is that one for the simple fact that the developers set themselves some realistic goals.

>>389235698

>Problem with nu-WOW is all your grinding is reset, every, single, patch, to the point that its pointless and boring.

thank you for proving my point, you claim you would grind yet you don't want to grind.

>I've moved onto other MMOs that are less polished then WOW, but unlike WOW, they actually focus on long term goals and multiplayer elements

and they are so important that you wouldn't even name them for fear of getting ridiculed

>WOW is just one massive single player action game that has a retarded subscription model that makes no sense.

t.poor antisocial kid that can't even say hi in chat


>>389235824

>its simply not fun

so you have an opinion, cool

>>389236207

nice lack of arguments lmao, stay btfo

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>>389231502
>mfw I actually enjoyed the original FFXIV
I'll never understand people man, shit was fun

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Move the fuck over
>Completely unique gameplay design
>Unparalleled level of character customization possibilities
>Functioning real-time combat in 2006
>Absolutely no hand-holding whatsoever
>No upper limit on character advancement, excellently planned and invested characters can nearly solo everything
>Still gets updated with new content 11 years later

Fucking masterpiece

>>389233739
Phinny hasnt made it to Omens just yet. Right now Monks are king, but a solid beastlord or wizard can compete. Shockingly, in some fights SKs are consistently high up in the parse if they build themselves right, especially against Tunat`Muram Cuu Vauax. Shaman can almost keep up with cleric healing, bard CC is almost respectable, and all 3 tanks are interchangeable outside of fights where defensive is required. Its immensely better than classic era was, but still not perfect, but as we get further along, by the time PoR comes around every class is going to be unique enough to allow for some genuinely fun gameplay across the board except warriors because theyve never been fun

>>389237106
>can solo ebrything!!!!!
Is this supposed to be a pro?

>>389232323
>I'm gonna be a good shaman for once, dammit
>My turn comes up
>Start thinking of the pure joy an anvil snake would bring me

>>389237202
I'd assume so if you played a game that never hit more than 1000 players in the last 12 years.

>>389237202
If you put in the literal tens of thousands of hours required to create a Completionist character and have the over 100 raid-tier clickables to create such a build, yes?

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>>389223419
im actually started to play allods again a few days ago.
am i in the wrong?

>>389237329
>>389237361
Then I'd be better off playing a single player game and have 100x the qualityin the rest of the stuff that isn't player interaction

>>389237462
Too bad there isn't a single player game that has a quarter of the depth of DDO's character creation or breadth of content then

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Best I've played so far.

>>389225375
I love PSO2 desu.

Is there an MMO I can play super casually, like only a few hours a week

ARCHEAGE NA/EU PRIVATE SERVER WHEN

>>389237982
Any of them, though if you're looking for a real MMO experience, there aren't really any on the market at the moment, except EVE.

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>>389237106
DDO is a CORPG very much like original Guild Wars. And it's a shame nothing else like those two really exists, especially the way DDO handles groups and story. It's still the best game if you actually have a close group of friends that can play together and take their time.

>>389233243
>GW2's LFG is more like a bulletin board where you advertise yourself or your group and what you're after specifically.
That's literally how WoW's group finder works for anything past the easiest content you utter dingus

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxtIXjtV6qw

>you will never look forward to the logging in every night to talk shit with your bros and do Chains for Promathia

>you will never see Tenzen off at Port Bastok again

>>389238203
I'll also never be a teenager again with unlimited free time. There's no way in hell I could play FF11 today.

>>389227525
Eq, without a doubt. Anyone who disagrees was too young to enjoy its prime.

>>389238258
How do you people cuck yourself out of free time this bad?
I think I literally had less time when I was a babb and had school rather than nowadays when I work.

>>389238176
but you don't understand, because it's in gw2 it's new and different

gw2 players are part of a cult of stupid

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>>389237990
i would actually play this if they found a way to take out all the fucking regrading bullshit. It got so absurd that now you can't participate in any world PvP if you got unlucky with regrades or missed out on the special events where everyone got guaranteed upgrades with no chance for down/item destruction.

PvP items should be acquired through PvP'ing exclusively though. Fucking dumb ass live system isn't even a treadmill, it's just straight digital gambling

>>389231237
>Alts and Characters
>FFXIV makes having alts irrelevant
>gets the most points

>Classes and Specs
>in FFXIV one character can be all classes
>somehow gets points for that

>cost is somehow more subjective than story or artstyle

>dungeons and raids is what defines MMOs
Is this guy retarded?

>>389238446
Depends on the point of view I guess, MMO players of today just want to get everything done fast, get the best gear, and go raiding.

>>389238446
Pretty sure dungeons and raids are what defines theme park mmos

>>389237872
>where do i find riiiiiiiii?

>>389239270
Theme park "MMOs" are just multiplayer games with an interactive lobby.

>>389223419
Ragnarok Online. U don't know how the private servers did it, but it was a world you explored all on your own with an extreme sense of wonder. You could be in a dark random cave fighting demons and another person would appear randomly and you could hit it off. Hang out spots were everywhere and pvp could happen at any moment just for fun. Events up the ass, guilds with no drama. Amazing music. I don't know. No MMO has come close to how immersive Ragnarok was.

>>389239658
Private servers were ass
>instead of constantly developing shit, Gravity had to lawsuit private server after private server or else they'd literally lose the brand rights.
what a joyous ride

>eve online shitters always trying to stir up shit

no one likes your online only version of excell

I've sunk 5000 or so hours into Guild Wars 2 and still enjoy the gamemodes. And the best part of this is that you've been acquainted with nearly all of the established players and guilds making it a social thing as well

Its good feels bros

>>389239771
I tried the official servers and I was instantly turned off since I couldn't go anywhere I wanted to go and it felt like I was forced to play how they wanted me to play.

>>389231279
>That and the low number of skills
that was a good argument months ago, but since the competition gouged the skill bars, GW2 end up with more skills than most MMOs

>>389227525
Its not

>>389239902
u wot
you were never limited to where you could go

>>389238176
Oh does it? The last time I played WoW (Cata) it was only automated from what I remember. Nothing where you could advertise groups.

That's cool that they've updated it if true. Do you have a screenshot of an advertised group? Since my brief google still looks like the same automated group finding.

>>389238378
>hurr durr why don't if you don't keep up with every small development in new expansions of games you don't play anymore

>>389228574
>nearly 170 post
>only 1 result
At least someone said it I suppose.

Runescape was the only MMO that managed to stick with me, played on and off since 2006.

That's 11 years.

priston tale 1 or bust.

>>389238382
What the fuck is with Korean MMO's and enchantment gambling?

>>389229046
And now I'm depressed. Fuck EA for ruining this.

>>389223419
Ultima Online

nothing comes close to the freedom and player interactivity it offered

World of Warcraft

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>>389228338
>>389241338
call of duty is my favorite MMO

>>389241026
Once The Third Dawn happened it all went to shit by separating PVE and PVP.

>>389241573
That's when I switched to private shards. Sadly, no more good active RP shards are around these days.

>>389227894
How vague..

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>>389227408
>>389228494
Ya know, for how much WoW is discussed, what's little realized is that the 12.5M and whatever was always saturated with time card *logins*, where the 2min. cafe check-ins from China, once a month, counted as subs.

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>>389242008

elin butts the game

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>not bringing in the REAL nigga

STEP BACK BASIC BITCHES

>>389223419
Ragnarok Online
Having said that, it's beyond that and I haven't played it for many years.

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>>389240039
The automated system is still there, there's also the LFD tool since WoD, and is used heavily for organising Mythic dungeon groups in Legion.

It's full of irredeemable elitist fuckbags in my experience though. Unless you've already finished the content you're applying to run, you're guaranteed not to get an invite

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>>389242531
Correct answer. OSRS/RS2 is legit the greatest there ever was and ever will be. No company has even come close to recreating the magic of Runescape.

Here comes the big question:
I want to play a MMORPG with my gf. We played Ragnarok Online a fuckton of time, for years, we also enjoyed Spiral Knights (although it's not 100% a "mmorpg") and Tree of Saviour some time...

We want to play another mmorpg but we don't know which one. Should we try FF XIV? Guild Wars 2? Your help will be appreciated

>>389243684
FFXIV is by far the MMORPG to play at the moment

>>389243008
The magic of runescape existed before runescape was even a fucking thing you newfag and it was Ultima Online.

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>>389232335
Let's be honest though: the main game for competition is WoW, and it often has very interesting class design (with very deep ability sets over a few niches.. damage, health, CC/utility, buffs, mobility..).

>>389243846
Like I said, "recreate". Obviously Ultima didn't recreate it since it came out first. And Runescape did it better anyway.

>>389223419
Ragnarok online.
Simple and deep,
Cute and social,
actual interesting open world.

(Well at least this is what it was at his peak)

>>389244172
The same is true of gw2 though.

It may not have the hard trinity like WoW but it does have specific roles within classes with deep set abilities for those roles, damage, cc, utility, buffs, boons, conditions.

If you never played endgame content it might not be apparent, just as it wouldn't be apparent in WoW doing open world questing.

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>>389225170

This and Pantheon are the only games that might get me to make another gaming rig and go back to PC gaming.

>>389238298
Game was shite back then too mate.

>>389245560
>social
Oh my, how times have changed.

>>389242008
what does the axis on the bottom represent?

>>389228727
neck yourself

>>389225170
>>389245710

This and this

Please god i just want at least ONE(1) of them to deliver or the MMO genre gets to stay dead for at least another 10 years

>>389245874
Metascore

http://www.gamestatistics.fr/Lessons-learned_MMO-surveys.pdf

>>389237959
You're a piece of shit and part of the reason PSO is dead. PSO2 was the nail on the coffin for the series.

>>389238336
This. I have a full time job and still have more free time than I ever did as a teenager. I don't get this mindset MMO devs have these days that they have to cater to this crowd of people who have shat out six kids and have three jobs.

>>389238336
it's not only work, living with your parents freed you of the time that cooking, shopping, chores in house, cleaning, ironing etc.. that you have to do, I live alone and just cooking (unless you want to eat literal shit, you have to cook) when I get home from work I usually have to clean the house a little, do laundry, talk to some people and maybe work a little more at home

it depends on the job really

>>389229046
I love WH fantasy

Sucks that this game released, crashed, and burned all before i even heard of its existence

>>389238336
because some people have jobs that requiere you to work seriously instead of flipping burguers and going back to your ghetto house to play CoD

>>389231502
MoP was so fucking shit, literally the reason i dropped WoW

At least the game was still fun in cata

>>389226548
I played this shit for the tf2 cosmetics.
hated every second of it

>most people here have not experienced the golden age of mmorpg

>>389223419
Is it too late to get into Runescape Classic? I don't care if it's rough as fuck around the edges, I want to see what all the hubbub is about.

>>389237106
Too bad it ended up a nickle-and-dime-y p2w piece of shit, i used to love this game

If they just revamped the business model, completely overhauled it, it would be THE BEST mmo on the market

>>389246757
>tfw was just old enough to experience the last 1/4 of it

Damn

Ultima Online no questions asked

>>389229046
There will never exist more satisfying world PVP.

>>389229578
>As long as you want
I wish...

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>>389235387
Having a guild (corp) in EVE is absolutely on par with many features of WoW.

>WoW's economy vs. EVE's
>thus WoW's crafting vs. EVE's
>having a corp playing makes content active
>WoW has structured (instanced) PvP, sort of tournament style; but the replayability seems rate limited by the productiveness (EVE's PvP is logistic, challenging local space, resources, or territory)

WoW has a unique metagame associated with character movement (mobility, etc.), but EVE is the fastest-spaceship multiplayer game I've found (with carrier/titan level gameplay as well).

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This baby right here

/v/ has shit taste in MMOs

>>389236680
>>389235387
>>389235114
>reddit spacing

Gunbound and Rakion

>>389251667
>Making things legible is now reddit
This is the most homosexual meme, even moreso than "traps aren't gay". Fuck off you poof.

>>389246415
Nice implication neet faggot

>burr you had less time and were blinded by nostalgia as a kid
How old are the half of you losers?
I had a full time job and lived alone in a house and I managed to scrape incredibly high amounts of time on MMOs.

Hell, these days I've got even more time somehow.

>>389245642
>What is PvP

>>389229046
>playing a zealot in RvR
Oh I'm sorry, you wanted to kill my Chosen bf? lol don't think so famalam

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>>389223419
Eve Online. People who claim it's not fun are shitters.

>>389232050
The wowbabies on /v/ never heard of this masterpiece.

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>>389223419
It doesn't hold you hand.

>>389223419
gta online
Because have gameplay besides stats

>>389256241
Doesn't hold content or fun gameplay either.

>>389225375
I loved this game but I can't go back and play it again after hackers in the gamecube version corrupted my entire memory card

>>389256330
The fundamental of finding what does what. It the MMO done right.

>>389256657
no
it's only good for the group v group
otherwise it's not a mystery what you do: nothing
PvE is braindead and shit, otherwise gameplay consists of AFK fishing and hauling incredible amounts of garbage loot to vendors so you can battle for nodes against autistic pay2win players

>>389225375
It's not a massive multiplayer online game in the sense that you can play with 20+ inside a dungeon or instance. It's just a online RPG with co-op. You can 100% solo PSO from start to finish, sure it will be hard and take longer but it's possible.