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Was this a good reboot?

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Was this a good reboot?
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Honestly I couldn't think of a better way they could have rebooted the series
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>>389214987
More original boxers comes to mind.

That said, the way they navigated the difficulty was genius. Make the front half of the game mildly challenging, give a good note to end on to newcomers or casuals, but put the real meat into the title defense, and just go off the rails with boxer patterns.
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tfw there will never be a realistic Punch Out game

Mac growing up in the Bronx NYC mid 80's starting out as a cheezy prize fighter then becoming an undisputed world champion taking on all sorts of boxers, street fighters, mma fighters, traditional martial artist.

Everything about Mac's character was inspired by 80's movies like Rocky, Karate kid, ect this whole underdog rising story. It's a shame Nintendo views him as a joke and he's made into a laughing stock in Smash bros.

sigh... I love Mac like no one else does.
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>>389215616
I love Little Mac that way too, Super Punch Out is actually what made me want to watch the Rocky movies as a kid. I'm glad he's in Smash, but what that series has done to more obscure characters and how they're seen by Nintendo fans is a shame.
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>>389214054
I thought it was fun.
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>>389214054
loved it. i fuck with it heavy. rented it years ago when it came out on wii and stayed up all night playing it.
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>>389215616
how would a punch out movie be
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>>389215785
>but what that series has done to more obscure characters and how they're seen by Nintendo fans is a shame.

What exactly do you mean?
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>>389215964
>Manlet from the bronx with self esteem issues and a troubled home situation meets washed up former boxer and wants to help his Mom by winning a local boxing thing for prize money, discovers a talent and goes on to a big fight

>>389216015
Captain Falcon was made into a meme with falcon punch shit, Diddy is widely despised now, and Little Mac is seen as a bit of a joke, without much regard paid to their origins or home series among newer Nintendo fans that just know them through Smash. At least with a friend of mine it's that way.
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>>389216276
you should get better friends
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>>389215616
>tfw no Floyd Mayweather's PUNCH-OUT
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>>389216802
>Floyd only fights you after you've peaked, and then he never lets you get a punch in.
>Game over is Floyd saying "Thanks for getting me 60-0, here's your 20 Million Dollars kid.
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>>389214987
this desu
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>>389214987
With slightly better graphic design.

You can really tell westerners made this by the bland menus.
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Even the advertisements were perfect

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1uxowhEn2E
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>>389217769
>"thats japanese for goodbye"
holy shit
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>>389217769
i dont think i ever saw this.
fucking lost it at "thats japanese for good bye."
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>>389215616
>starting out as a cheezy prize fighter then becoming an undisputed world champion taking on all sorts of boxers, street fighters, mma fighters, traditional martial artist.

what part of this is supposed to be realistic
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>>389217657
>You can really tell westerners made this
You got a problem with that?
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>>389214054

No Tyson, No buy.
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>>389218974
Sandman is no Tyson, that's for sure. It's a real shame.

Though DK as the bonus boxer was cool. Can't believe it was originally Peach.
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>>389214054
Bring back Referee Mario.
>>389217769
Those Punch Out commercials for the Wii were kino as hell.
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DREAAAAMLAAAND

boo

boo
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This was easily in the top 10 Wii games and if you disagree you are objectively wrong

I'm pretty salty we haven't had a follow-up
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>>389219047
The best part about that was how you can see DK in the crowd in the Sandman title defense.
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>>389217657
>When your only complaint are the menus
Yup, it's a near perfect game.

Also
>Take one of the blandest fighters from the original games
>Turn him into a psychopathic cheater which makes him the best character in the game.
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>>389219047
>Can't believe it was originally Peach.
Yeah. that would have been awesome, but of course, you have your complainers ruining everything, they anticipated the blow back of course.
It's a shame that the reason women aren't in more games is because of women complaining all the time. Devs don't want to deal with it, look at DOAX 3, they were like "Fuck it"/
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>>389219272
top 10? You're crazy.

It's in the top 3.
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>>389214054
>there will never be a sequel to this
I'm still upset
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>>389219302
>yfw "ya prob'ly got cheeseburgers in those gloves, have ya, Mac"
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>>389219445
It sold like shit. I still feel bad that I rented it when it first came out and only bought it a few years later when it was too late.
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>>389214054
IT was fucking amazing. Desperately need a sequel.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXj1GUr03v8
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They already got arms, might as well use the motion controls for a new punch out too.
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>tfw I never managed to beat DK
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>>389219849
Motion controls were in the Wii game. Even with the board for dodging too.

No one ever used them.
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>>389220018
I actually really liked the motion controls but once you got far enough in the campaign you were pretty much handicapping yourself by not using regular controls
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>>389218929
Yes. Western decs are shit usually have zero style with menus. The Excite games on Wii also suffered from bland menus. At least the game play was perfect.
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>>389219879
Get back in there anon!

>>389220817
I just wish I didn't have to use motion controls for the menus.
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>>389214054

>The only new person was Disco Kid

We need a sequel with even more original ideas
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>>389217657
Mario and Rabbids had some bad UI too, it bugs me considering how nice most other Mario games are in the UI department
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>>389220916
Aran Ryan may as well have been new. But I agree.
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>>389217657
>>389220930
If a boring UI is the worst thing you can say about a game, I'd say that's almost ideal.
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>>389220916
If they have to bring up vampires to make a Romanian character, I'd still want them to do it
There isn't a Mexican character either, is there?
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>>389221137
just one
he spits in your face and headbutts you
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>>389221137
>Romanian Vampire character
>you have to win by star punch KO or he'll keep getting back up

FUND IT
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CRUNCH
bogus
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>>389221280
>he can heal with his signature attack if it connects
This might actually work
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>>389217769
>That's Japanese for good bye
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I hope the studio is still around. it would be fantastic to see a new punch out by the same people or at the very least an hd port of the wii game
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>>389214054
They need to reboot it as a MMA game because it's not the 90s anymore.
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>>389221280
no the only way to win would be a cross counter
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>>389216276
So you blame Nintendo for the fanbase?

Would you prefer the characters just go the Alex Kid route and be forgotten to time?
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>>389221442
Dunno if they still work with Nintendo. They did Mario Strikers, Punch Out, and the second Luigi's Mansion. Other than that I dunno.
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>>389221442
They're still around. In fact, you may know them for this gem.
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>>389221505
Not blaming Nintendo, just think it's a bummer.
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>>389221280
They already did that gimmick with Bald Bull's TD bout.
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>>389221687
Nobody likes Bad Bull.

Shitty Balrog knockoff
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>>389214054
This game was the fucking shit. Had amazing music too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_LbJJ4F2GQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXa4JIBJ-9w&t=6s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX0mNGz0T3U
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>>389221468
>MMA
Reddit the sport
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>>389217769
My nigga Clay davis as Doc? SHIIIEEEEET
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>>389221536
The fact it only failed because people were butthurt and refused to give it a chance buttered my muffin.

>>389222185
>The entire game is just various remixes of the original game's theme
>They're all awesome
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>>389223278
>they're all awesome
Hell yeah they are
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Zylwvd202o
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The most awesome thing about the game was that they actually got people who speak the languages the characters are supposed to speak. You don't get any more dedicated than that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JX3MViTpNZ0
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>>389224138
Doesn't bald bull swear?
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Now that Mike Tyson has repaired his image I could see him coming back if they ever make a sequel to the Wii game.
Next Level is a good studio they should get a chance to expand on Punch Out
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>>389215964
here it is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtMm0swu5i8
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>>389219308
>of course, you have your complainers ruining everything, they anticipated the blow back of course
Didn't some people complain about DK anyway, saying it was racist to replace Mike Tyson with a literal monkey?
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>>389224351
TD Sandman was turned into Tyson 2.0, complete with winking telegraphs. Also just because Tyson got out of prison, there's still the whole issue with boxing since he did bite off the ear of one of his opponents. Unless Tyson gives away his likeness and name for free. I doubt Nintendo will bite.
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>>389214054
So good that probably is the last game on the franchise for a long time.

There are other obvious reasons too.
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>>389223278
>>They're all awesome

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwKKtLYyFrQ
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Better off making a fangame at this point, would it be possible to with gamemaker or godot?
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>>389224285
In that video it translates what he's saying as "damn" but that he's not necessarily swearing in Turkish.
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>>389224639
One thing Nintendo does right is to make their characters to be ambiguously gay so you can endlessly argue your side instead of just forcing the issue like fagets did with Overwatch.
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>>389215964
Rocky but better.
Maybe like Hajime no Ippo?
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>>389225180
Man Ippo started so good and then gets sucked into the predictable setup.
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>>389215616
I've put a lot of thought into the Punch-Out!! series as I have spent years playing the games. I didn't get to play the original version of the arcade game, I think my first play had that dude in coveralls on the unit, it also had the 2-handlebars and rotating screen.

The point though, is that I'm pretty sure that the series is really REALLY not meant to be serious. In that each fight is less of say, a sport type thing, or an action game, and more like a fast paced puzzle game. Each of the mechanics seem to cultivate a problem-solving reaction rather than a variable action solution. You're given 4 tools to solve these problems (punch high/low, dodge/duck, block, power-move) every fight is a puzzle though, where you're looking for tells and avoiding traps.
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>>389225253
Fucking loved Ippo. Stopped shortly after The Fighting! started
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Hell yes. Fucking loved the game.
>every character is fun and different to face
>they all speak their actual languages
>actually challenging
>good amount of content
>full of tricks and different ways to do things despite the game being left punch, right punch, uppercut, block, dodge left and dodge right
>that fucking music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpccRdanqEA
My only complaint is that they play the generic songs on the main game, and you only get to hear the awesome remixes on the challenge/mission mode (or whatever you call it).
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>>389215616
I get where you're coming from, man. The opponents were supposed to be parodies, but not Mac himself. It's a damn shame.
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This game was a perfect reboot. It was handled absolutely right.

The only criticism I have is not having any more new characters aside from Disco Kid. That's the only criticism. It was perfect otherwise, even just using NES style inputs.
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>>389215616
>he's made into a laughing stock in Smash bros.
??? he's strong as fuck, where is that even coming from? I mean, competitively Nintendo can't make him viable otherwise he'd FUCKING DESTROY in casual matches, and in fact, in casual matches he still destroys others
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FUCK TITLE DEFENSE BALD BULL
I HATE HIM SO FUCKING MUCH AAAAAA
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Really wish they kept Princess Peach as the final boss. Having her daintily destroy you would be intense. Seeing her all beaten up would be surreal, too.
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CRUNCH-DUDE!
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>>389214987
This, it was a fantastic and fun retooling of the franchise.

I personally would have included some extra mechanics from Super Punch out, like the counters, but it was simple and fun.
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>>389224479
>Nintendo will bite
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>>389226647
Sure, he packs a punch, but he lacks recovery.
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>>389227701
SUPER
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>>389219308
>>389219047

Wait what? Who complained about peach?
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>>389227794
MACHO
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>>389227860
Who do you think?
I’ll give you a hint, they're found on a terrible website.
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>>389227907
Honestly, it could be either side of the political spectrum. Was it one, the other, or both?
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RELEASE THE BOGUS!
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>>389227907
4chan?
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>>389227701
RELEASE THE BOGUS
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>>389227897
MAN!!!
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>>389227860
Nobody but they knew they would as it would be Mac beating on a wittle girlie, men and women fight IRL(not professionally but personally) but if you do it in a vidya it's a goddamn problem. Why do you think there is a massive lack of female antagonists and cannon fodder in gaming? Soon, women will raise to Muhammad status in the west.
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>>389228090
BOGUS!!!
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>>389228095
Let's face it, if Peach was the final boss, both 4chan AND Tumblr would have complained.
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>>389228232
Why?
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>>389227761
>lacks recovery

that's meme tier for people who don't main Mac.
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>>389228290
Tumblr because you get to beat up a girl. 4chan because the strongest boxer in the game is a woman.

While I don't like it when certain games go overboard on grrl power, I wouldn't have minded it personally since Punch out is cartoony enough not to matter.
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The best Sm4sh trailer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmtrmAvL5aw
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>>389225971
>mac, a midget in a heavyweight boxing championship, isnt a parody

what
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>Peach was supposed to be in this game to fight little mac
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>>389228380
>4chan because the strongest boxer in the game is a woman.
You think so? I thought 4chan liked 2D women? I don;t think /v/ would mind beating on Peach. I have a question, how would you guys feel about a female version of Punch Out?
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I'd like a Punch out cartoon series in the style of the Smash Bros Mac Intro. Or a game, for that matter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmtrmAvL5aw
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>>389219047
>Peach
Would she become more and more beaten up and bruised as the fight went on?
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>>389228538
Yes. that was a big part of the problem and why she was replaced with Donkey Shit.
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>>389228538
Of course, that was the plan, just like any other fighter. Damn shame for ryona fans like me.
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>>389228535
Some anon actually made a greentext describing how the first few episodes of something like that would play out. Don't know where it is.
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>>389228517
Define "a female version". I wouldn't be happy if mac was replaced in a punch out game.

As for liking 2d women, I like em fine, but you know as well as I do people would complain if only to shitpost about the game. Some ironically, some seriously.
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>>389228592
Hitting a woman is wrong but animal abuse is A-OK
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>>389217769
>a comeback is like a yoyo
>you gon' go down
>but you comin' right back up
>and you may end up walkin the dog
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>>389228535
>I'd like a Punch out cartoon series
yamato damashii
remember your training mac
there's still oxygen in you muscles mac
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>>389219879
DK isn't so hard, learn his easiest patterns so you can actually damage him and just hope he doesn't throw the hard ones at you. What's really bullshit are a lot of those extra challenges in challenge mode like beating Mr.Sandman without getting hit once, or that bullshit final mode where a single hit insta-KOs you.
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>>389228676
He uses both hands, he's the worst match-up possible for the kid!
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>>389228650
Well, a Punch Out with an all new female cast, I mean, in a perfect world there would be a male and female division but we know Nintendo will not put that much work into a Punch Out game.
I don't understand why nobody has tried to make their own Punch Out.
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>>389225253
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>>389217769
but little mac is supposed to be a hot vaguely japanese white 17 year old high schooler
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>>389228658
Yep. The only way it would have been fair is to have Mac fight Doc's Bike.
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>>389221137
Vampire Romanian would be worth it just for Doc's ring advice being full of terrible vampire puns.
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>>389228808
Wasn't there someone in /v/ making a women of Nintendo nes style punch out? I remember a few screenshots but I don't remember if that's all it was or if it was actually supposed to be a real game. I recall peach and minds and maybe rosalina or daisy
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>>389228808
If it was a game about cute girls throwing cute punches in the cute ring, I'd be all for it - provided it wasn't called Punch Out.

Punch out is Mac's game. It'd be like a Metroid without Samus' boyfriend.
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>>389217769
I remember this commercial and never knew Paulie Malignaggi played Little Mac
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>>389229023
Fine, call it Super Pussy Punch Starring Princess Peach or something else.
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>MFW I learn Bear Huger has the same VA as 90s SF cartoon Bison and Rhinox
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>mfw took the Mario hat as my club Nintendo platinum reward and pirated the Doc Louis fight
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>>389227292
He's the final wall in the main game, not counting DK. I'd argue he's worse than TD Mr.Sandman. You gotta nail that bull charge son. Probably the only character I actually practiced against in training mode.
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>>389228535
Try Hajime no Ippo, it's generally considered to be the Punchout anime.

Also
>mfw Mac confirmed for Smash
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>>389229196
Fine by me, I like strong girls. I don't think 4chins would complain either, too much since it would be girls-only.
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>>389229301
Hajime no Ippo went to shit, anon, but thanks for the rec. I mean something that was, in tone and artstyle, like the little mac trailer for Brawl. The animation is simple, but looks amazing.
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Why was Super Punch out so weird? Nobody followed the rules, was it an underground club? Guys used sticks, kicked, headbutted, threw balls, elbowed and whipped their hair at you. I loved that game
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>>389228872
>THE COYOTE'S DYNAMITE IS USELESS AGAINST THE SPEED OF THE ROADRUNNER
I'm fucking dying I can't breath holy shit
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NEED A HUG?
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>>389229349
I definitely agree with you. Nintendo did a short run of Pikmin animations and I'd like to see what you described for Punchout. It's basically just a motion comic, a few steps above the style used in Portable Ops / Peace Walker.
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>>389225180
I just wanna remind everyone of the best Ippo game
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>>389229484
i know you're posting this ironically but i legit loved those games when i first got them
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>>389214054
It's honestly one of the best reboots ever. The animation is awesome, and they nailed the look and feel of the game. I knew it was something special when I hit Glass Joe and croissants flew across the screen.
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>>389229548
I'm not being ironic anon. I love these games too
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You know what, fuck it. Time to boot up ol punch-out on my emulator.
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>>389229629
my nigger
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>>389229372
Never liked how Mac looked like in it, it was... odd.
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>>389229304
We need more girls beating on each other games, too bad Rumble Roses ix dead with Konami.
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I know it goes against the spirit of the original games, but if we're looking for spinoff games to keep the franchise alive I think the best solution is a traditional 2d fighter.

Every moveset is pretty much there for you already. Yeah everyone would play like Balrog with only punches, but I'm sure some kind of gimmick could be thought up that would fit the theme of the series and set it apart from other fighters.
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>>389229304
>tfw the manga ended too early
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>>389229241
>The SNES Classic Controller was never released in the west
> They go for like $40+ on ebay

I'm still mad and I will hold a grudge. Fucking nips got all the good shit.
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Fuck this game is fun. I don't remember any of the patterns so I'm getting punched a bunch but that makes it more entertaining.
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>>389215616
>being able to beat boxers twice as heavy as him
>realistic
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>>389228872
Kek. Was thinking mostly the same things while watching it recently.. I liked it but man I don't know how it's considered a masterpiece and on so many 3x3s.
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>>389230634
Because the first few hundred chapters were really good, it only became meme material later.
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>>389217769
>and you may end up walkin the dog.

fuckin 24k gold right here.
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>TFW Arino never beat Soda Popinski
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RELEASE THE BOGUS
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>>389215616
>waaa little mac has no air game in smash they ruined him forever he's a parody he's a joke!
Fucking autism.
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>thread still up
>no obligatory "post your favourite boxer" post yet
it's time boyss
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>>389214054
I want Little Mac to fuck me!
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>>389214054
>/v/ more or less unanymously loves one of my fav games

Sometimes you're not complete cancer, /v/.

Sometimes.
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>>389221346
RELEASE THE
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>>389217769
Doc Louis is the best Nintendo character
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>>389231683
Need a hug?
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>>389231985
BOGUS
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>>389232046
DUDE
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>>389231683
Glass Joe. I like to think his 1 win was against Mr. sandman
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>>389220018
>TFW I had one of those boards but I preferred to move my body and move the wii remote at the same direction
I was sweating that's for sure, its too bad my disc is fucked, I can't fight the russian man because it freezes evertime I selected him
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God I remember this game so fondly. It was the most kickass game on the Wii and I remember all the times I had to retry my fights with Bald Bull and Sandman. The former because I was too stubborn to not just dodge his strongest attack but was garbage at the timing and the latter because his Title Defense battle called for me to basically stop blinking during rounds.
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>>389228808
There was a app called K.O. Boxer, it was actually really fucking good
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>>389230441
>tfw the farthest I got was Soda Popinski
The game got hard really fast
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>>389231683
It's gotta be Mr Sandman for me.
>Intro cutscene showing him knocking out all other opponents in one punch
>opening with Doc scared but Mac ready to go
>BOO
>his "NOOOO" when you hit him with a star punch
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>>389232678
I beat the Sandman exactly once, then got beat by Macho Man and couldn't replicate the Sandman victory.
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>>389232281
>I like to think his 1 win was against Mr. sandman
He actually knocked out Nick Bruiser
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I want a prequel taking place in the 70s where you play as a younger Doc Louis, watching him invent the star punch and ultimately fall from grace and training Mac years later
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>>389221280
>>389221405
So basically a combination of TD Bald Bull and SNES Aran Ryan
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>>389225939
>>389224639
>>389223670
>>389222185
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2iANoIPccg&index=103&list=PL6akIKaXBeU2KRBTr2K0xPpcIlbLw5BrO
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>>389231683
Hondo is my favorite
>takes his training seriously
>actually pretty challenging in TD
He seems like the kind of guy that would become friends with Mac
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>>389233579
Disco Kid and Bear Hugger are the two most affable boxers. They don't even mock Mac or anything, they're just having fun.
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>>389217769
Never knew Little Mac got his ass beat by Conor McGregor
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>>389234901
>The Irish boxer was inspired by Conor GiveMeYourBelt McGregor.
It's too late at night to laugh my ass off, how dare you.
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