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VN thread
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hey
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>>389196717
fpbp
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>>389195663
The game is actually pretty fun, despite the controversy.
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>>389197702
What controversy?
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>>389197702
what game?
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>>389198142
Not that anon but it's Kakyuusei 2.

you can google about it's controversy and understand why the game has so much hate :)
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>>389195663
Are you enjoying their game?
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>>389198142
https://vndb.org/v1083
>>389197835
Something about childhood friend main girl already has a boyfriend and is not a virgin.
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Recommend me spoopy VNs
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Steins;gate 0 was pretty good. I wish there were more VNs with interesting sci-fi concepts

rec me some
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>>389199489
higurashi, start dling it right now
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>>389197835
The MC is the rebound boyfriend.
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>>389199979
Got it.
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>>389199228
>wanting used goods
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>>389200210
Keep in mind it takes a while to get into the spook, but once it does it goes full spook
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>>389195663
Utawarerumono in 3 days
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>>389200210
And remember to get the PS2 sprite pack, unless you like Boxing glove uggu style.
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>>389199979
>recommending him the sausage party
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>>389200447
>>389200493
Understood, thanks.
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ふっるいネタだな
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>>389200676
>It is a stuffed neta
What does that even mean?
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>>389195663
For easier reading:

株式会社エルフ御中 平成1
6年8月28日
「下級生2」返品の件

拝啓
残暑の候、貴社ますますご盛栄のこととお喜び申し上げます。
日頃は大変お世話になっております。

さて、表記製品につき付属取扱説明書7頁に基づき、次の理由
により返品させていただきます。

・本製品を構成する「柴門たまき」の脳髄及び処女膜
が破損しているため。

「柴門たまき」の誤作動により、当方のプレイ環境が整わない
ため、破損製品を同封しましたので、ご確認のほどお願いします。
お忙しい中、大変恐縮ですが破損製品は御社で処分してくださ
いますようお願い申し上げます。
なお、本書函は製品の交換・返金を請求するものではないこと
を申し添えます。

敬具
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>>389197835
Otakus getting autistic over NTR, same as always.
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Should I play it?
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>>389201278
Reviews seem to say it's good.
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>>389201398
But I wanted anon's opinion
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>>389201278
it good
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>>389201519
I am anon and I say it's good
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>>389201583
>>389201653
ty anon getting it now
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Nips are degenerate and they make shitty games.
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>>389201792
hi pol
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>>389197835
A history: A company named élf made a sequel to their famous dating sim series called Kakyuusei 2 (the precursor to dating sims even before Tokimeki Memorial. Series's pretty huge in Japan. The company themselves used to be a behemoth in the eroge industry, with YU-NO, -saku series, Dragon Knight series, and Doukyuusei/Kakyuusei series under their belt, along with numerous other old VNs.) They spend much on promotional materials to advertise this new dating sim game, with an anime series that comes out before the game. They are so confident that the game will success, that they dare to put the release date of the game the same as Rance VI to rival Alice Soft (Look to the VNDB release date on both games if you don't believe me). But when the game comes out, it revealed to the players that:

1. The face of the game, the childhood friend main heroine Saimon Tamaki, told the MC when asked that she already in relationship with a rich medical student, and still in relationship with said boyfriend when the player enters her route. This is in contrast to all previous main heroines in their previous games of the series that doesn't have any boyfriend or even any knowledge of sex beforehand.

2. The scenes. The player can spot said childhood friend main heroine kissed, an groped on the crotch by said boyfriend while she clearly looks enjoying it. In front of the peeping MC. WITH EXCLUSIVE CG DEDICATED TO THE SCENE. You also can sometime catch her just walks out of a love hotel when exploring the city. In previous games, the heroine can flies off to another guy, but that's failure event if the player doesn't chase said heroine or fail spectacularly trying to get her. Here, it's a normal CG that you can get when trying to get her, and one will only unlock if you have sufficient affection rating to her. So the player basically already 'lost' her before the game starts.

Cont-
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>>389201792
>shitty
No
>degenerate
Yes, and that's why I love them.
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>>389201952
3. The heroine's personality and route. During her route, it's necessary that you take her to dates if you want to get despite knowing that she already has a boyfriend. Later on, after her affection rating is high enough, her boyfriend starts taking her home after you date her. The day after that, when you meet her again, the MC asks if it's okay to keep dating her, she assures him it's fine. After being fetched 1 or 2 more times by said boyfriend after you date her, after at the last date, you find her having a quarrel with said boyfriend in front of a love hotel because she keeps dating her childhood friend, before he finally breaks up with her, wishing her happiness with the MC afterwards, and leaves with his car. After that she depressed and you have to cheer her up by being her rebound guy.

Later in her first sex scene the MC asks if she has done sex with the boyfriend, she confirms it and asks him to understand because she loved her very much.

Nevertheless, all these pissed people very much, which is understandable.
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>>389201889
You can't blame /pol/ for everything.
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>>389201952
>>389202042
>you're literally the nice guy
Holy shit.
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>>389202042
That's fucking golden
Thanks for the explanation, anon
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>>389201952
>>389202042
what the fuck was the director's fetish ntr or something
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>>389202042
As a sidenote: the previous game has literal prostitute as a heroine, but nobody throws a hissyfit because she's not the advertised main heroine.
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>>389203275
What the fuck is that floating thing on the right.
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>>389203412
Smug alien princess.
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>>389195663
I just started Katawa Shoujo. Really charming so far.
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>>389203534
Can you romance her?
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>>389203636
Yes, but as opposed to a dating sim game, she's only obtainable if you intentionally ignoring girls left and right. If you romance any other girls before the end game, she'll be unobtainable and will always shows up in front of you right after you're done having sex with a girl, and guilt tripping you if you fucked more than one girl.
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>>389201952
>>389202042
How can you fuck something up this bad?
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>>389204106
Sounds excellent, I'll play it.
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>>389204114
Didnt the company ELF go out of business, too?
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>>389202042
>cunt slut whore bitch
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>>389201056
lol, what an autist
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>>389204230
Good luck, you might need a walkthrough for trickier girls like her, because on the top of dodging girls, you have to find her events all over the town, otherwise you'll just get a bad ending instead.
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Is this why we never got to see mogi ever again?
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>>389202042
Holy shit that's amazing. You can't even be mad at the med school guy, all he did was break up with a thot who was hanging out with the beta fuck trying to steal her from behind his back.

That is John Romero levels of hubris
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good thing this cause controversy
fucking cucks arent human
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>>389206435
Good luck talking to any girl over 16.
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>>389206435
there's still some justice in this world
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>>389202042
It's obviously not a fuck up. It's meant to be a clear reflection of what kinda fucking idiot keeps pursuing someone while knowing she's already in a relationship
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>Only 48% of the heroines are virgins
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Underwaterrayromano part 2 comes out in a few days.
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>>389208178
It's shit. Not-Haku is a terrible protagonist.
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>>389207732

I like that there is an actual database out there to see who is virgin and who isn't, the nips know what they want.
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Why the fuck does a nukige have a better story than 90% of actual games
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>>389208425
Oh fuck off the whole virtual reality cycle bullshit was just that, bullshit.
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Does anyone have one of those meme images of recommended visual novels?
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>>389201952
>>389202042
This is like panting a picture with someone's furiously burst blood vessels.

If only all games could be this audacious.
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>>389203580
It gets much better, and it's the only great Western one.
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>>389208425
The best porn is when they put the story and characters first.
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>>389201278
>>389201761
I enjoyed it so I'll recommend it. Not saying it is a 10/10 masterpiece but it's a good ride. I felt most things in the story tied together well in the end.
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>>389208178
Can't fucking wait.
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>>389208178
Also are there any differences between the ps4 and ps vita version besides resolution?
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VN is talked about here so much I am starting to get interested on the genre... Can anyone recommend me must plays?
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>>389210756
Depends on what kind of stuff you like to read. I recommend Steins;Gate if you haven't seen the anime. Fate/Stay Night if you like more shounen type stuff. Saya no Uta is pretty short, if you want to start of small. Fruits of Grisaia if you want more slice of life/comedy.
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>>389208178
Would've bought it if Atlus hadn't censored it.
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>>389210756
Start with something shorter. Katawa Shoujo is an excellent jumping off point.
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>>389210586
Nothing content wise as far as I can tell. The Vita seems to be digital only, and likely will be a bit more expensive.

>>389210756
Fate/Stay night, G-Senjou no Maou, Little Busters, Grisaia no Kajitsu, Clannad, and Katawa Shoujo are all good starters. I'd post the recs list, but it's over 4mb.

Google: "Recommended visual novel list."
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>>389210756
Saya no Uta is a great entry level story, as is Planetarian.
999 on the DS is half puzzle game, but a good introduction.
Muv-Luv is incredible, but not entry level at all since you need to sit through 30 hours of harem antics before you get to the good parts. The House in Fata Morgana has a significantly less anime aesthetic than most VNs, along with a western setting, so that might appeal to you. On the other hand Rewrite is an all around great VN.
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>>389210756
Kohime Musou in which you pursue Lu Bu's vagina.
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>>389211530
>G-Senjou no Maou
Stop recommending this shit to people, the plot twist is retarded and it's full of holes. Sharin no Kuni was the far better story.
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>>389211565
>good parts
That is to say generic space mecha parts. I'll never understand why people hype up the beta fighting stuff.
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>>389211620
True, but it's still enjoyable - and it had great music to boot.
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>>389211565
>Saya
Requirement to post
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Swan Song and Kara no Shoujo 1 and 2
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>>389202042
>>389201952
Is the anime available somewhere?

Does it have the same boyfriend plot?
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>>389211674
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>>389211620
Sharin no Kuni is ok but my main problem with it is how you have to sit through a nigh identical story 3 times just to see the different endings. And a lack of harem sex
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>>389201278
I'm playing it while in this thread. So far it has a lot of slow parts but the plot is interesting.
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>>389211983
Are there actual sex scenes in Saya no Uta. I basically know the whole plot, but I'd play it for the porn.
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>>389195663
>Kakyuusei 2
Every time.
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>>389212264
>Does it have the same boyfriend plot?
No. After the backlash, elf tried apologize by making the boyfriend plot as backstory in the first H OVA, and removed entirely in the second OVA. But people already butthurt by her stunt in the main game, so the OVA's sales is down the drain.
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>>389211674
>generic space mecha
>there's like 5 minutes in orbit and that's the closest to space the story gets
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>>389212753
Yes.
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Have they given a release date for C;C yet? Or is it still just Q3?
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>>389195663
Give me a vn where I can fuck my little sister
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>>389213134
October Something
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>>389195663
I always thought this was break the support disc.
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>>389213134
>Original has interesting character design
>Sequel is generic anime girl design
Every god damn time.
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>>389213167
Have you tried Imouto Paradise?
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>>389213119
Alright I'll trust you buddy, but I'm dropping it like hot shit if it tries to get "deep" with me.
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>>389213167
I recommend Imouto Paradise 2!
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>>389208302
So Haku goes full srs bsness? I was sort of expecting for him to be sort of the same deep inside, while developing new skills and taking shit somewhat more seriously. Would've been fun to see.

I'll still play it, though, I have to see how this ends.
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>>389211674
People hype up the action sequences because MLA is as high budget as visual novel presentation gets. There is nothing else that comes close to it in terms of presentation.
People hype up the story because it makes an incredibly well-woven multiverse story with consistent logic and incredible use of foreshadowing.
You sound like a fag who only watched the garbage anime series and judged it on that.
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>>389213426
>Sequel announced
>The inbreeding continues
I wonder how deep Moonstone is going to go before ditching the family.
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>>389208178
You mean part 3.
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>>389213236
>Original has interesting character design

What?
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>>389201079
you dont advertise your video game as "racing car game" and then bait and switch your players into playing a shitty assfaggotsmoba. same deal here. the game was advertised as idealistic pure romance, not "bitches and whores 2: electric dildo"
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>>389213858
They're far more interesting. And cute.
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>>389202042
Wait, this sounds like you're the one doing the cuckolding. How did that cause so much outrage?
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>>389213697
Visual novels are video games.
>B-But they just have choices
Some have more gameplay than that, and even if it is just choices, it's still a game. Choose Your Own Adventure books are called game books for a reason.
>B-But some don't have choices at all
And walking simulators have no gameplay either, but are ostensibly considered adventure games. That doesn't mean all adventure games aren't video games.
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Is there a VN that doesn't make my eyes roll right out of my head???
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>>389204426
From what I recall, the shitstorm basically relegated them to the NTR market because nobody else would even touch their games just out of principle.
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>>389214271
It's not the cuckolding thing per say. The outrage was focused more on the fact that the main girl has a boyfriend that you see in CGs basically messing around with her.
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>>389214413
In what way?
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>>389213562
Curious on this too, but maybe this fag is just bullshitting and doesn't actually know japanese.
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>>389214512
Well he is her boyfriend. The player is clearly the asshole here and that sounds fine cause stealing someone is a normal power fantasy.
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>>389214512
>per say
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>>389214551
One that I can take seriously. One where I don't want to skip over the dialogue because it sounds stupid. I already turn off the voice acting most of the time.
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>>389214937
KS, the best part of which (for me) is the dialogue
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>>389214773
Get over it, man
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>>389214271

The outrage is basically

>I never asked for this

People go in expecting pure vanilla love and get to see the girl they wanted fooling around with some other guy.
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>>389214678
She leaves him for entirely unrelated reasons that already existed prior to your arrival. You don't "steal" anyone.
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>>389195663

There is a cute VN where the yandere gets a crush on you, the player, not the character.

Cant remember the name though
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I like reading, but I also like gameplay. May I get some recommendations for VNs that have both? I'm really entry level, but I've enjoyed playing Sunrider and Infinite Space.
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>>389214937
If your issue is essentially "I don't like typical Japanese characters and writing" then that's what The House in Fata Morgana is good for.
But I feel like you'd be pretty hard to please in general.
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>>389215268
999 and it's sequels
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>>389215268
Utawarerumono, Kamidori, and Rance.
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I just finished this what did I think of it?
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>>389215268
Zero Escape, Ace Attorney, Danganronpa, Rance
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>>389215268
Kamidori, sounds like something you might like. Maybe the first Utawarerumono too. 999, Virtues Last Reward are both puzzle based. Danganronpa is also pretty good.
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>>389215268
The games you're describing aren't visual novels, they're just different games with lots of story focus and cheap presentation. But what this guy said >>389215379

>>389215403
I sincerely hope you didn't play the official release.
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>>389213858
What do those words below the title even mean?
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>>389214937
Narcissu
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>>389215701
It's pretty deep, you wouldn't understand.
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>>389215343
Fata Morgana was such a fucking ride
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>>389197702
>game
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>>389216114
>Complaining that a dating sim isn't a game
>When dating sims often have a wealth of gameplay mechanics and difficult to obtain endings
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>>389215205
>She leaves him for entirely unrelated reasons that already existed prior to your arrival
Not in the VN.
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>>389201278
Solid 8.5/10
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>>389216170
is there a harem dating sim?
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>>389212494
Honestly, the suffering of Takeru is pretty much fueling my boner for MLA on its own. That and the general 'shits fucked' atmosphere makes the other stuff great as well, hoping for The Day After stuff to get translated in the future.
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>>389201952
Wait, back the fuck up for a minute.

>They spend much on promotional materials to advertise this new dating sim game, with an anime series that comes out before the game. They are so confident that the game will success, that they dare to put the release date of the game the same as Rance VI to rival Alice Soft

>with an anime series

Are you telling me that in Japan, eroge is such a big deal that you can even commission anime to be made as advertising, and even compete with other publishers? I thought gaming on PC, eroge included, was fucking dead there, how the fuck is this even possible?
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>>389197702
Too bad it's in fucking Japanese.
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>>389215403
>le
Fucking Reddit
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I can't handle all this bullying in Looking glass insects.
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>>389215403
>what did I think of it?
Why are you asking us
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>>389216384
You are aware that Fate started as an eroge, yes?
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>>389216497
It's psychosocial.
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>>389216558
It's a meme. He's trying to be funny.
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>>389202042
The balls on those developers, holy shit. They basically threw the formula completely away. That's incredible.
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>>389216384
VNs are pretty much the exception to them not playing on the PC. There have been many anime series that were just ads for VNs.
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Speaking of all this cucking, do any NTR games actually have a good story that isn't

>other guy forces or blackmails main girl into sex
>She acts like she doesn't want it but eventually admits she does towards the end of the scene
>Gets turned into a mindless fuck slave

NTR has like the absolute worst writing of anything.
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>>389216845
Please Bang My Wife!
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>>389216845
no, stick to handholding
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>>389216905
Is this literally the only good one?
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>finished the ace attorney trilogy
>want to play PW on my 3ds, so I can lie in bed and be comfy
>have to go through Apollo Justice

Can I just skip it? AJ is DS-only so I'd have to emulate it, and it would be annoying.
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>>389216845
That one with the big, sharply dressed black man that gets posted here sometimes. I'd call it a nigger but he actually looks like a good guy (that your wife just happens to like fucking more than you).
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>>389216845
Triangle Blue
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>>389216845
Hilariously Elf became pros at NTR after the Kakyuusei 2 scandal, since their old fanbase completely abandoned them, and their NTR focused games are considered some of the best
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>>389217035
There's no English version, is there
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>Muv-Luv
Terrible. YAMATO DAMASHII ruined most of the game and the ending was the most hackneyed shit I've read.
>G-Senjou
Decent characters. Shit plot and one of the worst twist executions I've seen.
>Zero Escape series
999 is the only good one.
>Steins;Gate
Good, can be fairly obtuse at times.
>Tokyo Babel
For when you want to play through a teenager's dream story.
>Fate/Stay Night
Good. Spinoffs and shit are bad.
>Katawa Shoujo
Good entry level VN. Character themes are decent and in general each route outside of Shizune feels pretty concise.
>YU-NO
Fucking 10/10 game in the first half. Quickly becomes 3/10 in the second half. You need to read this though because of how influential it is.
>Cross Channel
Another VN with an awful ending. Lots of interesting ideas executed decently, but a few of them are horrible misses.
>Phoenix Wright
Good. Has its ups and downs but 1-3 are all very good.
>Remember11
Incredible. Has no ending. This is on purpose.
>Ever17
Best executed twist in any visual novel. Rest of your mileage may vary.

I need to continue through my VN backlog. It's so difficult now that I can't marathon them though. I've been so disappointed by how many VNs fall apart during the ending though. Which is probably why in a fit of irony that Remember11 is so good.
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>>389217219
>their NTR focused games are considered some of the best
Too bad not enough NTRfags buys them.
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>>389217035
>NTR Type B

Wh-what's Type A?
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>>389217502
Willing from the start aka no rape or blackmail.
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>>389216845
Please Bang my Guillotine!
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>>389217424
VLR is good, I don't know what you're on.
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>>389217502
Consensual cheating from the beginning.

B is reluctant / unwilling / blackmail / rape cheating that leads into consensual acts later (absolutely overused into the ground, and seems to be the most common and most poorly written garbage). C is straight up nonconsensual rape in which the girl does not want to be raped and the guy has to watch.

>>389217632
That's type A
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>>389202042
Getting butthurt about "used goods" is dumb, but being a literal Chad is just low
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>>389217424
>ZE series
>999 is the only good one.
Ain't that the truth
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>>389217424
Why haven't you read Rewrite, Planetarian, Majikoi, Fata Morgana, or even Saya no Uta? Why did you read G-Senjou and not Sharin no Kuni?
>Ever17
>Best executed twist in any visual novel.
Please expand your horizons. Please.
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>>389217691
VLR is hurt a bit retroactively because it was clearly meant to lead into ZE3. 999 stands a lot better on its own.
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I want to fuck Morgana!
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>>389217691
>Entire game is nothing but a completely unresolved set up for ZTD that along with being garbage in its own right completely drops a lot of what was introduced in VLR
That's the problem with making games that are intended to be part of a bigger story. People wouldn't think of Trails in the Sky as well as they do if SC had been shit.
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>>389217785
Ahh, ok. I didn't play the third game. My bad.
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>>389217740
Because those were a lot of VNs I read back in college. I've been working full time for the past year now and I've had zero time or motivation to get knee deep in another VN, though all of those you've listed are on my backlog.

I will however stand by my opinion that Ever17 has the best twist. It's executed incredibly well and seamlessly while not feeling forced. Though the rest of the game after the twist becomes silly and stupid.
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>>389217691
The whole purpose of VLR gets shit on by ZTD making it pointless. VLR is great but both games shouldn't exist. The ZE series is basically a case study about how to run a game series into the ground and have fans support you while doing so.
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>>389216574

Actually, now that you mention it, I can sorta see how this works.

>be poor
>want to make money
>can't afford console license, so focus on PC
>bonus; literally everyone with a computer should be able to play (and this buy) the game
>make eroge and VNs and hope one of them strikes gold
>when one of them does, commission an anime and move exclusively to consoles
>enjoy being filthy rich

Seems to be how doujin companies work.
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>>389199489
>spoopy
Divi Dead is a classic
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>>389218074
I don't particularly want to spoil it, but I can tell you that one of the games I mentioned has a significantly better twist.
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>>389201952
I thought most big titles all release on the final week of the month
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>>389218258
I haven't played this in about 15 years. Does it still hold up?
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>>389218350
I believe I know what game you're talking about, considering friends praise it all the time for the themes. It's the one I was looking to pick up next.
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>>389199489
Nanashi no game
Sakura no mori dreamers
Also this is supposedly pretty spoopy and unique but I haven't played it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfJlXevN0xw
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>>389202042
>>389201952
Don't forget that it was advertised as a pure love story.
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>>389218387
>Release Date: 2004-08-27
It did release in the final week.
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>>389218502
>considering friends praise it all the time for the themes.
Now you've lost me. But any one of the ones I listed is great, so you should be happy with it. Though Majikoi is good for entirely different reasons to the rest.
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>>389218430
>Does it still hold up?
The story still stands but it still has dates stuff like requiring you to cover the map before the plot progresses.
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>>389218690
That's the main part I remember of the game. Along with the scene where you fuck the nurse, and the scene where you find someone who's had their head bashed in.
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>>389218759
Yeah, but going through that nonsense intro where you don't know what's going on is going to put a lot of people off. The main plot doesn't even get off the ground until you're two or three major scenes in at the school.
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I read through maitetsu and monobeno and some dies irae before my mind exploded from so much infodump. What's a good mid-level but enjoyable VN to read next?
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>>389208302
Does the MC ever grow out of being an unlikeable slacker cunt?
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>>389215403
scyther
all of the girls are horrible
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>>389218962
Majikoi is lots of character-driven fun focused on power level antics rather than magic and deep intrigue. As far as character interactions go it's about as good as the medium gets.
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>>389219065
Fuck you, Mitcher is great.
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>ctrl+f
>yume miru kusuri
>0 results
never forget
im not mexican i swear i found it on google
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>>389219225
I'll never forget it, but it's really not that good or memorable outside of the end of Aeka's route.
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>>389219225
Is this the most satisfying moment in the history of VNs?
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>>389217740
because g-senjou is good except that fucking post credits ending with the daughter what a fucking waste and because rewrite is mediocre
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>>389219328
How is it possible to live with taste this bad?
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>>389219326
probably one of the most satisfying moments in video games. choke a bitch and take pictures of her shitting herself
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>>389215403
some fun banter, but the girls/porn was mediocre
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>>389219381
wait i mixed up rewrite with hoshizora no memoria
YOSHINO
YOOOOOOOSHINO
kotori is the only girl that matters. fact
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Kara no shoujo is a good one! Anons should give it a try, nice and fluffy detective VN
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>>389219592
How could you forget her, you monster?
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>>389219225
Man the threads were great.
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>>389218962
https://vndb.org/v18778
No infodump, no drama, no serious plot, just 50+hours of growing up with your chosen waifu as both of you live your life together as lovers to adulthood. I can't recommend it if you don't like slice-of-life though.
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>>389219225
I will never forget that Mizuki will fucking die if don't let the protagonist ejaculate.
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>>389219874
>Cum
>Don't Cum
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>>389219719
kotori > akane > chihaya > lucia > shitzuru
i didnt watch the anime
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>People recommending me all these VNs that aren't in English
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>>389195663
have you ever played a game so good that it felt like the genre is all downhill from there?

i think yu-no did that to me
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>>389219156
heard great things about this. Spoiled myself mostly on Miyako lewds.
>>389219839
jesus
I never knew I wanted that. I have no qualms against SoL, so this is great.
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>>389220008
Tomoko was in the visual novel you horrible person.
>Lucia above anyone
>Shitzuru
I don't like you anymore.
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>>389219874
Footjob of destiny
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>>389195663
Every time I try to read a plot summary or watch a let's play, I get confused and the whole feels like a giant unworkable clusterfuck shitshow.

What am I missing?
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>>389220106
she literally doesnt appear in the VN though or at least not in human form
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>>389220198
bout 20 IQ points
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>>389220198
>watching someone else make decisions
gee boss
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>>389220014

>日本語読めない

wwwww 馬鹿
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>>389220198
Umineko is worth just reading through, it gets a bit slow in EP4 but it picks up again and stays crazy good through to the end
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>>389220069
Obligatory
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>>389220198
The author is a hack, don't waste your time.
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>>389220198
Try playing it yourself you dumb cunt.
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>>389220014
Just use a shitty translator.
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>>389220339
i won't even accept that remake exists. the sole thing it gets right is keeping umemoto's soundtrack as an option.
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>>389200363
>Western woman is not used Goods.
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>>389220339
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So now that we are getting more translations in Steam, are youtubers playing VNs for the "ironic weeb" points? Will I get some money if I make some shitty VN ASAP?
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>>389220260
go back to writing your next game r07
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>>389220538
>if i make some shitty vn
4chan already did that and it became a cult. good luck finishing one on your own within a year
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>>389220538
That's been happening since Nekopara.
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>>389220069
I wouldn't say it was downhill, but I think it will be quite a while before I experience another game that made me feel the way that WA2 did.

I'm looking forward to Damekoi's English release to see the reactions.
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>>389202042
Fuckin hell. Have they apologized for what they did or did they really think this is what their audience wanted?
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>>389211187
>I recommend Steins;Gate if you haven't seen the anime

I doubly recommend Steins;Gate if you have seen the anime. There's enough additional content, and even new twists, that will add so much more to the experience.
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>>389220427
You YU-NO fans have the best outcome. Doukyuusei/Kakyuusei and Dragon Knight fans have to live with mobage shit.
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>>389220652
>White Album
I got halfway through the first show's anime before dropping it over how much of an unbearable cunt the MC was. And then what I read of the second half made me even madder.
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>>389220715
First game's anime*
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>>389220696
the anime follows the true route to a tee which very few adaptions of anything do
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>>389220613
>>389220627
Damn, I really am late to the party.
Well, at least I can probably enjoy more TLs in the future.
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>>389220715
There is pretty much no link between WA and WA2 outside of some music and name drops.
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>>389213605
>incredibly well-woven multiverse
Oh fuck off, you stupid faggot. It's total garbage.
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>>389220697
I can't sympathise on this one because the original art just isn't good in this case. The anatomy is often bad and characters don't even look consistent between different shots.
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>>389220671
The backlash was so severe that the company was run out of business out of sheer virgin rage.
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>>389220848
Why?
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>>389220198
just desire
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>>389201056
>easier reading

fuck dude I only know like 2/3 of those kanji give me a break
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>>389211530
>The Vita seems to be digital only, and likely will be a bit more expensive.

The fuck you smoking? The Vita versions are both out physically and are not only cheaper, but have also sold more than the PS4 counterpart for Mask of Deception.
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>Novectacle announce a new game
>It's a partnership with Sekai Project
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>>389213605
>incredible use of foreshadowing
example?
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>>389219839
>No infodump, no drama, no serious plot, just 50+hours of growing up with your chosen waifu as both of you live your life together as lovers to adulthood
you have to WAKE UP
please WAKE UP
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>>389203275
Being a secondary backup guy is on a whole different level than capturing a prostitute.
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>>389221029
At least the same people will do the translation as the original MG release.
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http://gematsu.com/2017/09/idea-factory-otomate-announces-several-new-otome-visual-novels-ps4-ps-vita
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>>389214271
She went after you ONLY after her main boyfriend dump her right.
You are not cucking him, you're the cucks who wait for used good to be dumped on the sideline.
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>>389217424
>Fate/Stay Night
>Good. Spinoffs and shit are bad.

Hollow Ataraxia was great though.
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This any good?
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>>389213426
Is it translated yet? I can't find it on pantsu
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>>389214271
Personally I don't dislike NTR when the guy is as stupid as the game's MC and the girl is stolen by a (questionably) better guy.
But this is just sad and uncalled for, the girl is also a slut so I would not like her even if she thrown herself in my arms.

In a way it shows how low are the standards of people who admittedly insert themselves in the cheating guy, literal whores, anon.
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>>389221373
Good for feels and if you wanna fap to lolis
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>>389221067
In Extra there's a short part of a conversation about how Sumika saw Takeru in a place where he wasn't there, and he was acting weird. Takeru says she's messing with him and they move on. This is shortly after Takeru notices a shoe toppling along the ground, but is distracted by his friends. The shoe was Takeru from the Alternative world throwing it to distract Extra!Takeru, and Sumika then ran into Alternative!Takeru.
Yuuko's random science lessons about spacetime theory in Extra all end up being connected to Alternative.
Sumika getting splattered in Extra world after Alternative!Takeru goes there and ending up braindead foreshadows that the brain being kept in a jar in Yuuko's lab in Alternative world is Sumika.
These ones are just off the top of my head, and there are certainly a lot more.
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>>389216384
Yu-No even got an anime, as obscure as it was.

(it sucked really bad tho)
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>>389218597
I mean, don't all big titles/companies do this and not just elf and Alice. I just thought it wasn't worth mentioning as its pretty much the norm. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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>>389220715
WA1 and WA2 are two separate stories.

Also WA1 MC is more sympathetic in the VN because the anime completely glosses over why he was such a manwhore.
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>>389221281
Really? Don't mess with me, anon.
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>>389221307
>Idea Factory
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>>389220697
and oh how thankful i am for the full fan version, god bless
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>>389220849
It's mobage cashgrab. Hell, I'll be fine with mobage cashgrab if DMM also make a remake of the old games,or actual sequel Kakyuusei 3 or Dragon Knight 5, but we get a mobage cashgrab that's treated like it's part of the fucking main game, while you get a remake that's keeping things largely same to the original. I would kill for those franchises to get YU-NO treatment.
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>>389221478
Why was he such a manwhore?
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>>389217715
Any good type C stuff?
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>>389221635
Crescendo.
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>that German vn
nice
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>>389221598
I've never played Yu-No. My opinion on the art is that of an outside to both.
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>>389221719
too many minigames and anal
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>>389221496
Yeah. The team keeps tight, I think they've worked on everything together since the Danganronpa's PSP release.
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>>389221719
I liked the art style of the portraits but for some reason they decided to use a different style for the sex scenes and that shit was horrid. The game was hilarious though.
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>>389221775
>Danganronpa's PSP release.
OY VEY
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>>389221603
The long and short of it is that literally every girl he knows is broken in some way and wants/needs his D and he's too afraid of hurting them if he turns them down. Also the VN has actual routes so he's not slutting it up with like 5 girls at once.
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>>389221719
Too bad the artstyle made all the lolis look like shit cept for the demon loli
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>>389221719
Fun times
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>>389221909
>Only scene with decent art
>Her father in the background the entire time
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>>389221909
Isn't that Maja? Emily was the demon loli. Both were pretty cute though. I thought the witches were cute as well.
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There's no surer way to get a thread deleted than UAB posting.
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>>389195663
I cant wait for the anime
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give me the best harem ending VNs where you fuck like 4 girls at once
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>I want to fuck my aged up daughter
AQUAPLUS REEEEEEEEEEEEE STOP MAKING SEXY FEMALE LEADS.
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>>389222109
i don't care for netori or netorare, but hearing the demon loli explain to her father that the two of you are in love made me diamonds.
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>>389222184
Harem Party
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>>389220339
I think the background art in the remake is better.
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>>389222184
Come See me Tonight 1&2
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>>389217740
>Please expand your horizons. Please.
Just name 1 other VN better than Ever 17. I'm pretty sure you can't you are full of shit. Be aware that I have read every title you have mentioned so far, so you better step your game up.
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>>389221719
Soundtrack had some fun songs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CywmOitVWk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7Jh3N7ENZI
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>>389195663
what are some good vns with silhouette fucking?
i only know a few, pic related being one of them
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>>389201952
>>389202042
>main heroine route is LITERALLY the MC being a beta cuck
>SURELY THIS WILL RIVAL RANCE

I wonder how the guy who decided that was a good idea feels, knowing he damned the company.
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>>389214035
If you think of your VN as a boxed product to be sold, like a tenga is to be used. Sterile, emotionless, and bland. Mess with them, make them feel things, I applaud 'em.
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>>389222601
>implying anything can rival rance
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Any good VNs getting translated soon?
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Is there such thing as trap VNs?
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whats the best one
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>>389222196
The only man I want to see in my porn is the one having sex with the girl, and the only part of him I want to see is his dick. Anything more I won't tolerate.
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>>389222849
Quite a few. There is one company dedicated to creating VNs in which traps get knocked up.
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>>389202042
>mfw it fucked the studio so hard they had to make ntr vns just to stay alive but still ended up dying
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>>389222157
Why does Japan love edgy nuns? Is it because of Black Lagoon?
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>>389222849
Yes. There are even some mpreg VNs with traps.
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>>389222184
The Sagara Family
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>>389222928
What about yaoi VNs that aren't drawn in a very obvious yaoi style?
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>>389222440
>Be aware that I have read every title you have mentioned so far
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>>389222719
Well of course nothing can rival rance, but thinking surprise NTR would is next level retardation
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>>389222719
>>389223041
X when? Quest translation when?
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>>389222849
https://vndb.org/v13566
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>>389222971
>hes never fucked a trap so hard he gets knocked up
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>>389223027
There are, there are VNs for all kinds of people out there
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>>389195663
BREAK THE SUPPORT CD!
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>>389222959
no idea Im sure it dates before BL, also murikas like em too, see Hitman
Pic not related to the Battle Nuns
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>>389222849
https://vndb.org/g1840?fil=tagspoil-0.tag_inc-1840;m=0;o=d;s=rel

Choose any on this list, basically.
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>>389205064
is it in da english?
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>>389223112
How many of these girls have dicks?
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>>389222690
You applaud games for making you a hovering loser who only wins out of pure magic and her being a flippant whore?
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>>389223027
No, thank you
Same artist who works on Clock Ups games.
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>>389223252
ClockUp has several artists, like most companies.
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>>389223187
non yet
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>>389222739
I'm really excited for Flowers ete. It's supposed to be out this year but it is JAST that's handling it so you never know.
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>>389223027
https://vndb.org/v19290
The description is glorious
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Are there any good bodyswap or other types of TF VNs?
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>mfw yaoi ntr where the mc gets revenge and cucks his ex gf
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>>389223361
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why do all the protagonists of VNs have 8 to 10 inch cocks
i just can't relate and self-insert as them if they have such a huge penis compared to mine
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>>389211261
This. Fuck Atlus for butchering the first game.
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>>389223329
Fraternite
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>>389223402
X-Change series. Henshin and a few other games by May-Be Soft. Metamorfuck.
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>>389223506
i never get to fraternite but its on my list

how good is it?
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>>389223439
>Has a small dick
>Is a self-insertfag
Checks out.
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>>389223439
>protag in ntr vn
>wife mentions in other sex scenes that husband/bfs cock is smaller, but some sex scenes its the same picture but bad guys dick is just colored darker and same size
fucking anim
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>>389216967
do not listen to that man

the only difference with pbmw is that his wife wasn't raped she just wanted someone elses D
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>>389223559
Thanks.
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>>389223506
Saved.
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are there any VNs with nice art that spends a long time building a vanilla relationship but then goes full ntr in the second half?
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>>389220750
no it doesn't

wtf

did you forget the part where they go to america????
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>>389223572
This is all you need.
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>>389195663
Right now I'm halfway through playing YU-NO, and I really like it's presentation and the the way the jewels saves work.

But holy shit, some of these flags and events are really fucking out there.
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Should I play the Clannad VN or should I watch the anime? Which is the better experience and will give me the most feels?
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>>389223793

>>389217035
It's vanilla VN with added NTR route in it.
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>>389218350
>good vn twists
>no mention of sharin no kuni
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>>389223818
the only one i dont like is scat, dont get off to guro either but i dont mind it

how bad's the scat?
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>>389223812
That's in the OVA.
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>>389223897
does it force you into the NTR route or do i gotta do specific things to make it happen?
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>>389223818
>hairy
>nose hook
>speculum
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>>389223956
oh sorry! It has been a few years...
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>>389199854
https://vndb.org/g106?fil=tagspoil-0.tag_inc-106;m=0;o=d;s=rating

>>389199489
https://vndb.org/g7?fil=tagspoil-0.tag_inc-7;m=0;o=d;s=rating

>>389208841
I have few, sure most of them not very up-to-date tho
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>>389223870
The anime is just a condensed version of the VN, so there's no reason to watch it now that the VN is translated.
The movie is better.
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>>389223897
also where the fuck do you even dl it, there's like no torrents
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>>389220069
yuno is the game you described... until the epilogue

it is hard to believe how much you can ruin something with such a thing
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>>389223898
Try reading that reply chain again.
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>>389224052
>G-Senjou is recommended before Sharin no Kuni
>Sharin no Kuni listed as having a non-Japanese setting
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>>389201952
>>389202042
Is there a VN where you get to play as a medical student getting bitches left and right? That sounds tight.
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>>389223626
I have a similar kind of problem with some Netori games where they don't go as far as Netorare games go in their portrayal of the cucking. Many netori games sort of just mildly have the MC having sex with the married heroine without much of the confrontation you might see in netorare stuff or even sometimes not as much commentary from the heroine themselves.
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>>389224238
https://vndb.org/v321
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>>389224236
>Sharin no Kuni listed as having a non-Japanese setting
Did you miss all those times when the MC specifically talks about how in Japan they do this and that and how here in bumfuck dystopia they don't?
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>>389224016
Not that guy, I haven't played Triangle Blue but another game in the same description is Tsuma Shibori, Tsumamigui 3 and Heartful Maman which have relationships you can build up and allow to go into netorare if you allow it.

Basically on the vndb site, search for "Only Avoidable Netorare" and you can find a bunch of games that do it.
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>>389224016
>do i gotta do specific things to make it happen
Yes. You can avoid the NTR, but it's kind of hard with 100+ choices in a row.
>>389224089
Animesharing. Use premium link generator or Jdownloader2 for the download links.
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>>389223870
Play the VN. Good timing since It's on sale right now too.
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>>389224461
I guess so, but isn't he off on some island or something? All the characters are japs and everything about the way the setting is portrayed is japanese, so it seems like an odd way to promote it.
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>>389224314
Holy shit, there is a whole list of this crap.
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>>389224236
Sharin is more flawed because despite a stronger ending/cohesive story the rest of the game is mediocre. G-Senjou is the opposite in that the quality of the entire story is largely okay until the ending goes full retard.
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>>389224823
>the rest of the game is mediocre
Nigger what? The only "bad" part of the game is Sachi's arc, and that's just because Sachi is completely unlikeable.
>-Senjou is the opposite in that the quality of the entire story is largely okay until the ending goes full retard.
You must be joking, the side routes are all trash and make zero sense when you consider how the twist turns out. And the twist makes many events throughout the game make zero sense.
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>>389224280
i know that feeling
like its just weak ass, 'oh no im fucking some guy that isnt my husband'
and thats it.
its easy to see that japan doesnt like netori that much and likes getting cucked more since they go so much more indepth in those games
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>>389224908
It's too late for me to get into an in-depth discussion about why Sharin sucks so...

>the side routes are all trash
I was referring to the main story.

>make zero sense
Author went on record saying they were parallel universes.
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What is it with VN thread always need to have NTR discussion in them.
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>>389225081
>I was referring to the main story.
Then you make a poor argument. And you also ignore what I said about the twist fucking up the main story too.
>Author went on record saying they were parallel universes.
That's fucking retarded and is little more than an excuse for the game's terrible writing.
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>>389221363
Hollow Ataraxia is a sequel, not a spinoff. I don't think the spinoffs are all bad though, I like Umu.
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>>389225171
NTR is the hot topic.
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>>389225174
>Then you make a poor argument.
You should elaborate or otherwise your post will be ignored.

>twist fucking up the main story too.
Please, do explain.

>That's fucking retarded
How so? For side stories they're fine.
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>>389224509
>Use premium link generator or Jdownloader2 for the download links
i dont know what either of these are desu
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>>389221719
I actually found myself laughing at the memery in Unteralterbach. I regret nothing.
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>>389225171
Because Japs feel the need to insert that shit into a shocking amount of their virtual porn flipbooks, so it's naturally going to come up in a discussion.
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>>389225440
Bullshit. There's still more stuff without NTR in them. Some people are pushing their agenda in here.
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>>389225328
Because the game is written around the premise of whether or not the protagonist is really Maou, and the protagonist's constant blackouts are there to provide that possibility. Then it reveals that Maou is just some literal who that was never mentioned before and the MC's blackouts stop happening and are never explained. This was shit writing in Heavy Rain, and it's shit writing here too.
>How so? For side stories they're fine.
No they're not, because those side stories are based off of the events of the main story up until where they branch off. Maou is still there looking for Haru and fucking things up, but if you pick a different girl he suddenly decides to fuck off for no reason. That's stupid as shit.
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>>389225171
Because NTRfags are on the same level as footfags and fatfags when it comes to pushing their shitty fetish everywhere.
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>>389224495
>Tsumamigui 3 and Heartful Maman
any more like these? ive played them already and they're pretty great
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>>389225753
Oyako Rankan. It have the same "gameplay system", but more hardcore scene.
That one is the best.
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>>389225350
Basically a program that parallel downloads from multiple sources and keeps them active so they don't die when you leave them alone.
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>>389225171
because i get off to corruption, i dont self insert like a fag. i just enjoy seeing some bitch act like a whore
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>>389225171
Because this guy keeps starting threads with NTR discussion, it causes the threads to blow up.
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where are all the furry vns
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>>389225648
>Then it reveals that Maou is just some literal who that was never mentioned before
Maou was foreshadowed in one of the first CGs in the game. And you failed to explain how the twist fucks up the story.

>No they're not, because those side stories are based off of the events of the main story up until where they branch off.
Alternate universe. Maou can or cannot be Kyousuke depending on the route. Schrodinger's Cat.
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>>389225785
also played that

pretty much all alicesoft games are great
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>>389225912
>Maou was foreshadowed in one of the first CGs in the game.
Oh wow, that changes everything! Except it doesn't.
>And you failed to explain how the twist fucks up the story.
I just did. Try reading the post again.
>Alternate universe.
Bad writing.
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I've read some of Rewrite lately.
It was boring.
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>>389226058
I'm sorry that you have no sense of humour.
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>>389225615
The split is nakige and nukige. I would definitely agree that NTR doesn't show up very much in the former. If you looked at the first 50 most popular VNs, NTR wouldn't show up very much, but as far as nukige games go it's pretty prevalent. I browse the upcoming and just released VNs constantly on vndb.com and NTR or netori is a pretty constant theme in most of the material.
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>>389225950
What are your criteria of "like these" ?
Are you referring to the gameplay, or simply the H content ?
It's kinda hard to find NTR game with gameplay.
There's lot with pseudo gameplay though.
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Are there even VNs that are not NTR, Rape or main premise is drama/love?
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>>389225980
>Oh wow, that changes everything!
You said he was some literal who that was never mentioned before. Don't go moving the goalposts now.

>I just did.
By thinking that Maou wasn't foreshadowed? Your argument falls apart then.

>Bad writing.
Maybe if you repeat it enough times it'll be true.

Don't expect another actual reply if you're not going to even try to come up with a coherent argument.
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>people itt actually enjoy NTR
never reproduce
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>>389225912
Not the fellow you're talking with, but "alternate universe" is a load of horseshit.
Routes should be logically consistent with one another and, ideally, should reveal unique things about the characters, setting, and plot. This encourages/rewards the player for playing the game thoroughly.
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>>389226170
>You said he was some literal who that was never mentioned before.
And that's still the case. Being vaguely foreshadowed in a CG doesn't change that.
>By thinking that Maou wasn't foreshadowed? Your argument falls apart then.
No, by talking about the blackouts, which you keep refusing to address because you know it's a massive plot hole.
>Maybe if you repeat it enough times it'll be true.
When the only way you can explain your game's alternate routes is with "parallel universes" because there's no other way to reconcile them with the rest of the story, it's bad fucking writing.
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Post some companies that are now too important to release visual novels anymore.
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>>389225912
>And you failed to explain how the twist fucks up the story.
Different anon, but
>build up the tension of split personality for the entire VN
>have the main love interest be the antagonist to your seemingly evil protagonist
>shit starts going down, keikaku doori, the girl starts catching up
>set up the final showdown, do or die, only one is leaving alive
>reach a tragic climax in which the man kills his lover because of his alternate, twisted personality
lol it was actually your long lost brother
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>>389225171
They tend to stick out more than average run-of-the-mill VN.
Now the scary thing is when average run-of-the-mill VNs start including NTR as relationship drama for shock value. Shit will be crazy.
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>>389226156
Those are big filter.
Technically everything can be described as having drama in them you know. The best I can recommend is stuff where the message of the story isn't the drama/love.
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>>389201952
>>389202042
I'm trying to figure out who the fuck thought this was a good idea. The first rule of waifubait, especially in a dating sim, is that they're as pure and virginal as humanly fucking possible. People will riot at the smallest thing in that department. And this isn't just a girl having had a boyfriend before or maybe not being a virgin. This is the main girl actively making you the beta-male in an NTR story. That's not just an oversight or something that someone didn't think through with regards to the target demographic. That's something they went out of their way to do.
What the actual fuck?
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>>389226320
I think I found a new fetish.
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>>389226398
Elf tried to kickstart the NTR age too soon and paid dearly for it.
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>>389226140
good ntr i guess with some gameplay maybe
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>>389226462
No, if they were straightforward about the game having NTR in it, they would still be alive today.
They did a bait and switch.
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are there any NTR where the one stealing away is another girl?
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>>389226078
The comedy stuff is great, but the actual story fails to make me care at all and seems to go on forever. For reference, I've done Chihaya's route and got halfway through Amane's.
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>>389226286
>And that's still the case.
No? He isn't a literal who because he's your brother and has a clear motive for everything Maou does in the game. He didn't come out of nowhere because one of the first scenes in the game refers to him.

>No, by talking about the blackouts,
How is that a plot hole? At worst it's just a red herring. Are you actually retarded?

>it's bad fucking writing.
Again, I disagree since the author made his intention clear. Read up on Schrodinger's Cat, you might learn something.

>>389226291
I'll admit I really would've preferred that too. I was actually expecting that was what's going to happen. But at the end of the day it's not a plot hole nor is it poor writing - it's all just opinions.
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>>389225753
Other than Tsuma Shibori, there's not too many with the same elements. I will say to check out AliceSoft's library of games because the themes are quite similar, just not the gameplay elements. Tsuma Shibori just like Tsumamigui 3 rely on a repetitive choice system over the course of months just like Persona 3, 4 and 5.

The closest thing to that actually are the Cation games like: Lovely x Cation 1 &2, Pretty x Cation 1&2, Purely x Cation and Niizuma Lovely x Cation. All of these have multiple heroines which you choose to lock into and build up stats and hang out with them until you move the story along with them.
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>>389226596
>For reference, I've done Chihaya's route and got halfway through Amane's.
This is why you follow the recommended route order.
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>>389226601
>How is that a plot hole? At worst it's just a red herring. Are you actually retarded?
It's a plot hole when it's done for no purpose other than to mislead the player and is then completely dropped with zero explanation. Just like in Heavy Rain.
>Again, I disagree since the author made his intention clear. Read up on Schrodinger's Cat, you might learn something.
All the author did was pull a shitty excuse out of his arse.
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>>389226243
They won't,since they will always get NTR'D IRL,and they will enjoy it.
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>>389214271
>Implying going after used goods who loved someone else doesn't also make you a fucking cuck regardless of which side of the coin you're on
Cucks truly are a pathetic lot.
>B-but that's in the past, it's a CONQUEST
Keep telling yourself that bucko, if she did it with you she'll do it to you.
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>>389226720
>It's a plot hole when it's done for no purpose other than to mislead the player and is then completely dropped with zero explanation
You literally don't know what a plot hole is. It doesn't contradict anything, it isn't impossible, nor is it illogical. It isn't a plot hole.

>All the author did was pull a shitty excuse out of his arse.
If that is your opinion, then that's fine. Don't try to pass it off as some falsified measure of quality.
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>>389226601
>I'll admit I really would've preferred that too. I was actually expecting that was what's going to happen. But at the end of the day it's not a plot hole nor is it poor writing - it's all just opinions.
I would definitely say it's poor writing.
They built up hype, built up the entire story around this idea that was exciting, interesting, vastly superior to what we got. They fit it into the story perfectly, the blackouts happened when Maou acted and the entire story progress was built on the notion of alternate personalities.
Then they suddenly just pull the rug out from underneath themselves, leave the protagonist an uninteresting sack of shit and go on to do some muh dad story full of retarded edge.
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>>389226543
And they've made NTR titles before Kakyuusei 2, it just they're clearly advertised as such when doing it.
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>>389226156
Basically the tag would be vanilla and there are actually a lot of really good ones in the category.

https://vndb.org/v10972

This one came to mind right away.
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>>389226320
>my husband's son
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>>389226324
Visual novels is a pretty generic term but I can't find detective, horror or even anything in google except love-themed ones.
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>>389226596
>Chihaya
>start with the worst route
You fucking dingus
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>>389226871
i'm not anyone you've responded to so far

it's bad writing
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>>389226935
>tag would be vanilla
Thanks new to the genre and I am making a list.
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>>389226495
Alright, open wide.

昼顔の観察
A husband need to be away from his home. he need to put some hidden camera in his home, you decide when the camera will start recording since the battery life is limited.

AVキング
shit happens and you need to make porn to pay debts. the actor is you, and the actress is your girl. if you want easy money you can make more hardcore porn.

××な彼女のつくりかた2
You and your girlfiend live in small town, you decide how the town expand by adding various building and unlock more scene.

メイクMeラバー
tower defense game. there was a dark route scenario where your girlfriend is captured by the invader.
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>>389226871
>It doesn't contradict anything, it isn't impossible, nor is it illogical. It isn't a plot hole.
MC is constantly blacking out and then waking up in other areas related to what Maou was doing during that time. Not only is that completely illogical when he isn't actually Maou, there is zero explanation for why he was having the blackouts in the first place, and similarly zero explanation for why the blackouts suddenly stop.
>Don't try to pass it off as some falsified measure of quality.
The writing is objectively bad, though.
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>>389226935
>High Sexual Content
ehhh so all VNs are just sex and love-themed?
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>>389226567
Yes, but there's not too many in this tag, it's called Reverse NTR in vndb. Basically where another girl is stealing the MC away from another heroine. I haven't played many.
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>>389199090
No JOPs overrate fucking everything

Dies irae and subahibi were both disappointments
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>>389226495
And here's my recommendation for good NTR without gameplay.

Hime-sama to Keibihei,
the setting is fantasy world where people can use magic via a charms. There are many kinds of magic and the effect last longer depend on the prowess of the user.

The NTR plot happened when the greatest magician in the kingdom swapped his body with the MC and have his way with the heroine.
And then to make matters worse, the magician also linked his mind with the MC using telepathy, so he can see what's happening to her in first person.
And then to make matters even more worse, the heroine can use Heal magic. What the hero doesn't know about heal magic is, that it also restore your stamina.
So you guys know can imagine what happened to her.

There's plot twist too (spoiler)
At first, the MC takes solace in the fact that the girl is doing it with his body. But actually the magician lied. It's not body swapping magic but optical illusion magic. So when the ordeal was finished and MC can't satisfy the girl, it's not because he was incompetent, but the quality of their disk is different.


It also comes with 8 endings with lot of variation.
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>>389227179
Does that mean Muramasa isn't the one true kamige?
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>>389227116
No, but I'd say most VNs will feature some sort of love interest at the very least.
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>>389222979
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>>389227116
No, not all VNs are. Steins;Gate I would say has very little to do with either. There is some love undertones, but the game only draws a tangent on these kinds of themes.

Basically, look for tags for VNs that have "No Sexual Content". I mean, hey, 999, Virtue's Last Reward, Zero Time Dilemma and Danganropa are all VNs and they don't have those sorts of themes underpinning them.

I won't sugarcoat it though, much of the VN market is saturated with sex and love themes; it just lends itself really well with the medium.
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>>389221719
am I the only one who just hates every part of it?
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>>389227393
Steins;Gate has a romantic subplot but it's just that, a subplot. It's also better written and drawn than 99% of the competition.
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>>389216976
Why would you wanna skip the best one?
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>>389226320
Hello new fetish
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>>389227438
Hating the art is preference. Hating the humour is understandable, since it relies a lot on strawmanning and absurd scenarios. Hating the music just means you have shit taste.
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>>389216976
If you want to play Apollo Justice then, as someone that also played the Trilogy first, you should really emulate it.

I played the Trilogy then when I went to Apollo Justice I learned you can't speed up the text in that game like in the 3DS Trilogy. Text moves slow as dirt so playing it felt like a chore.
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>>389226919
I disagree. It's not the story I would've wanted, but I don't find any fault with what we got other than the black outs being forgotten.

>>389227056
>Not only is that completely illogical
They explained it as stress and he doesn't actually wake up where Maou is every time. You should replay the game before making false claims that only make you look retarded.

>there is zero explanation for
So the crux of your argument is
Red Herring = Plot Hole
Not only is this incorrect, but I see no need to have this argument with you. Go to /lit/ and argue with them if you want.

At the end of the day, you were wrong about Maou being a "literal who" and not being mentioned before - good job ignoring this. Maou was referenced in the beginning so any mildly attentive reader would've picked up on it and once the reveal happened his motivations and actions throughout the game actually make perfect sense. Sorry, but you are wrong.

Anyways I suppose we can stop here since you seem to only go in circles with no substance to your poor criticisms. You can have the last word if it makes you feel better.

Have a good night, shitposter-kun.
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I'm pretty sure almost no one played Root Letter, but I just want to say it is hilarious how the game presents itself as a mystery story and then the true ending reveals that the entire thing was really nothing more than a 30 year old woman running a very convoluted plan in reuniting with her old friends and landing the protagonist as her husband.
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>>389228124
I only played through one route, but it was a pretty lighthearted mystery type game anyways.
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>>389227195
so the girl made it so the magician could bone her like for days at a time he had a bigger dick?
fucking nice
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>>389209445
Porn games/eroge and eventually VNs were made to make a given company's work stand out from the crowd, so that makes sense.
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>>389219839
Does a translation of this exist, other than chinese?
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>>389214035
>you dont advertise your video game as "racing car game" and then bait and switch your players into playing a shitty assfaggotsmoba
It worked for MuvLuv
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>>389229082
nope, and don't expect one for years, if ever
each individual route is already insanely long, let alone the entire VN
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>>389228974
Yes, the story is absolutely hot.
It has no gameplay though.

Also if you like netorase, this one is good too
https://isekaintr.wordpress.com/when-i-was-summoned-to-another-world-likes-ntr-skill-appeared/
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>>389227179
Finally somebody agrees me
I'm a JOP and I recommend not going near this shit.
>>389227254
Haven't played that but seems to be in the same boat. Just hard writing with average plot and writing.
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>>389227179
JOPs are going to read whatever they're interested in, while EOPs have a much more limited selection and will thus read stuff that they're not interested in because they have nothing else of note to consume.
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>>389229468
>JOP
>Hasn't played Muramasa
You can at least try to lie better.
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>>389229082
Ask again after 10 years.
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>>389222979
Like? Names! Hopefully at least ONE that's in english.
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>>389229573
>and will thus read stuff that they're not interested in
nigger what
I just play other video games if there's nothing I'm interested in
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Fate/stay night
https://www.mofumoe.org/content/fatestay-night

Fate/stay night [Réalta Nua]
https://nyaa.si/view/427133
realtapatch.tumblr.com/

Fate/hollow ataraxia
https://www.mofumoe.org/content/fatehollow-ataraxia

Tsukihime
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/1705201

Tsukihime PLUS-DISC
https://www.mofumoe.org/content/tsukihime-plus-disc

Tsukihime Fun Disc: Kagetsu Tohya
https://www.mofumoe.org/content/kagetsu-tooya

TMDict, a compilation of Nasuverse dictionary entries
http://tmdict.com
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YU-NO PC-98 OST
https://mega.nz/#!5m5hxQbK!V2j-kvGIsy2B_AJbsyQBBrkIeuQOLAV8QWw00BeJ500
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>>389215403
All the routes are garbage and the common route was the best part of the story. They've not been able to recapture that quality of fun even in the sequels either.
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>>389225171
the image of the cracked disk draws a lot of attention and also gets more newfags into VNs (which is a good thing, more money in the industry = more translations)
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>>389229827
Is the remake out?
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>>389229980
No, the studio got firebombed.
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Majikoi and Grisaia are easily the shittiest vn's I've ever read.
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>>389229757
Arcueid a Cute
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General Gravicius grunts, his hips rapidly slamming his erect donger deep into Shadow's lean muscled frame. Sweat drips from his brow as he moans a quiet prayer before both nuts erupt, turning him into a fountain of cum launching Shadow at least 5 meters onto the floor. Gravicius smirks at the sight, "I fuck for God, Exile. Who do you fuck for?"
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>>389230037
I don't think you've read that many VNs.
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>>389230162
I played this great (or I didn't understand) it vn years ago and I can't really remember anything about it other than there was a FeMC, it took place in victorian london(?), and there was a tactics gameplay part where instead of fighting you had to flee from monsters that would consume your flesh. Anybody know what I'm talking about?
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>>389230065
you're greener than a seasick piece of broccoli
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>>389230429
Shikkoku no Sharnoth -What a Beautiful Tomorrow-
The writing is pretentious, but the art and song are godly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5b9TO7DBtw
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>>389230429
Dunno, use VNDB tags to search for it.
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>>389229264
>>389229643
Well shit
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>>389230606
thanks m8

>>389230618
12 seconds too slow.
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>>389230652
It's translated btw.
I don't like it but the writing rated is highly within the VN elitist club
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>>389223252
gib sauce
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>>389231192
Anon, take your eyes off the picture and look at the words.
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>>389223460
What did they do this time?
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>>389227961
>They explained it as stress
No, they actually didn't. They took a guess that it might have been stress, but that's the best it got. And this still doesn't resolve the complete lack of explanation for why the blackouts abruptly stop the instant Maou's identity is revealed, despite the MC still being under a great deal of stress.
>Red Herring = Plot Hole
No, a plot hole is a plot hole. It so happens that this plot hole is related to their attempt to use it as a red herring. As has been stated already, this is exactly the same as in Heavy Rain.
>you were wrong about Maou being a "literal who" and not being mentioned before
Vague hint in a CG is not being mentioned. There is nothing about the CG in question that would actually hint at his identity in a first playthrough. That is not good foreshadowing, and it most certainly doesn't count as him being mentioned as someone that fills the role that he does.
>Anyways I suppose we can stop here since you seem to only go in circles with no substance to your poor criticisms.
You mean like saying "no it's not a plot hole and it's not a bad writing because I say so"?
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Anyone got blank ntr face man pics. I need some
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>>389223027
Whats wrong with the style? my person problem is most of them aren't in english
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>>389226245
>Routes should be logically consistent with one another
No. They almost never are. That's why when X has a life changing trouble in Route Z, it almost never (with very rare exceptions) leaks into Route Y.
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>>389226720
>It's a plot hole when it's done for no purpose other than to mislead the player
That is the literal definition of a red herring, dude.
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>>389231962
>and is then completely dropped with zero explanation.
It's important to actually read the whole sentence, because any argument can be reduced to nothing when you simply take half of it away.
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>>389226919
>an uninteresting sack of shit
>Uses all the skills he was shown to have up until that point to survive the Teenaged Mad Max Land and then shoots and kills his brother, despite knowing he'd go to jail for it, to save his girlfriend
Kyosuke was a cool guy.
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>>389231806
Like this ?
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>>389231849
He said they should be, not they always are. And he's right, in any good VN, the routes are logically consistent with each other in regards to the events that happen and the characters motivations.
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>>389232019
No, mate, that's actually a red herring. A red herring does not require an explanation. Don't use fucking literary terms with such confidence if you don't know what it is. A plot hole would be thus.

>This shield will stop Omega's from getting through
>An Omega got through, what happen to the shield?
>Don't know, anyway, Omega is now through
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>>389220849
>the original art just isn't good in this case
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>>389231740
They stop because after Maou is revealed the time period is incredibly short.
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>>389232227
But I'm not arguing that it's not a red herring. Are you retarded? It is a red herring, and it's a poorly written one that results in a plot hole as the story goes on, because it is not adequately explained or resolved.
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>>389232137
Ok name me at least 3 examples of good VNs that do this, and explain how they do it.
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>>389232321
Except that the MC was regularly having them over the days leading up to the reveal and never has them again after the reveal despite the amount of time that passes being longer than you pretend, so that explanation that you pulled out of your arse rather than from the game is complete bollocks.
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>>389231325
>nipple pinching
nvm it's too gay
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>>389232352
>It's a plot hole
>massive plot hole.
Also Maou outright fucking explains why he goes after you in the main route. He could have accepted anything you did, but you chose to fuck the daughter of the man that ruined your lives.
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>>389232428
>longer than I pretend
Alright, mister genius man, how much time passed? Go have a quick look because it actually tells you too.
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>>389232442
Yes, it is a plot hole. It being a red herring does not stop it from being a plot hole. Something can be more than two things at once, isn't that shocking?
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>>389232556
No it's not a plot hole because it's been repeatedly explained to you. Holy shit, you're just intentionally trolling at this point aren't you?
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>>389232492
Eight years.

>>389232606
Your explanations have been questionable at best and for the last several posts you've done nothing but say "it's not a plot hole because it's a red herring", as though that does anything to stop it from being a plot hole (it does not).
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>>389232753
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You are getting that pillowcase aren't you?
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>>389232802
>Buying censored games
No.
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>>389232798
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5JICa_ZxBk
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>>389232802
Yes. I sure am.
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>>389222283
I don't
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>>389232826
That was fun.
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what did she mean by this?
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>>>/vg/vn
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I love these graphics. PC98 stuff was great
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>>389233104
A cat is fine too
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>>389201952
>>389202042
No wonder white (and apparently yellow too) beta bois hate women so much..

If the very idea that your (fictional!) girl had a guy before you is enough to make you this upset, you have serious insecurity issues. Good luck being alone your entire life, cuckbois.
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>>389233371
see you in the next console war thread when this one dies bro
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Why does dithering look nicer than "real" shading?
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>>389233758
Speaking of EVE
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>>389215343
>>389216048
Best thing I've read in 10 years.
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