What am I in for?

crusadan

kingan

>>389180992
incest
increase council power
and a fun time with events and mad kings

>>389180992
Boners you never knew you wanted

Can I create a holy empire in this game and purge heathens across the land? I've never played it before and only seen screenshots and I want to know if I can sufficiently remove heretic.

>>389181594
yes, but you can't play as a bishop or pope

>>389181594
Not only that, you can even be a muslim

>>389181594
You're essentially playing as an Individual within a realm (country). Now through out any modern ideals of nation state because that does not matter. I'd recommend when starting off to play as a Count or Duke under a King. It will let you learn the game and still have fun. Playing a MP game with some friends of mine started with me as the Count of Cornwall before moving up to Duke of Cornwall, Duke of Wessex, King of Ireland and King of Brittany. It's a slow process but the journey is the best part making it to those goals.

>>389180992
a shallow, easy, mediocre game.
t. vicky 2 pro

>>389181594
Yes. And not just any holy empire, but the Holy Roman Empire.
Marry into the Byzantine Empire to claim it as well.

>Buy Reaper's Due
>Become Immortal

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>>389182374
>having fantasy shit on
typical CK2tard. i bet you play vanilla

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>>389182305

>>389180992
>be king of ireland
>have 2 children that are twins. boy and girl
>boy is heir as usual
>girl gets married to a muslim country cause she was a bad bitch
>forget about her
>boy doesn't have any children and his wife also died early
>he also dies
>heir is bitch now
>king dies and bitch becomes queen
>but bitch is in a regular marriage meaning the kids are not my dynasty
>bitch dies and muslim son takes over ireland
>all that effort creating ireland from a county wasted because of one bitch

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>>389182476

>>389182479
Vanilla player here. I turn Fantasy elements off every time. Possbily with the exception of SUnset Invasion, but that's only when I think I need a little action/challenge.

>>389180992
The best RPG ever made.

>>389183195
This comic is very good. Especially when you get really into the character you play as.

>>389183402
I think it's why I love it over all the other Paradox games and still come back to it regularly. It's both a grand strategy game and an RPG, the fun in Paradox games have always been to mess around with history, conquering Japan as Korea, reclaiming the glory of Rome from the Turkish heathens, making Norse into the dominant religion of Europe, and Crusader Kings 2 let's you go so damn deep with it.

>>389183140
>Second in line to throne
>Not married matrilineally
Only yourself to blame there, chum.

>>389180992
Blobbing

>>389182374
>>389182479
How do you become immortal?
I think I've played like 50 hours with Reaper's Due and fantasy elements and never gotten any events like it.

I just want have some fun creating a god emperor.

>>389180992
DLCs
Get ready for China

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>>389183921
i had everything and lost it all

>>389183878
That too, but another reason I really like CKII compared to other Paradox games like EUIV or Vicky II is the stability and management aspect. In other game you conquer some land, maybe give some local autonomy if you're playing EUIV and then it's yours forever, unless you're retarded enough to lose land to the AI. In CKII you have to assign the land to a person, and even if he likes you then it's not certain he'll like your heir, or that his heir will like you. The fact that you have to keep your vassals happy to avoid civil war and the options to choose between "Small and centralized" or "big and decentralized" and "Few powerful vassals" or "many less powerful vassals".

>>389184273
You get the holy grail quest and need a good deal of luck.

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>>389180992
Since the Monks and Mystics DLC reforming religions became incredibly easy.
As long as you own a holy side you can arbitrarily change your religion and then bribe your Vassals to do the same.
I literally managed to turn the Abbasid Caliphate completely jewish, build the third temple, re-create the Kohen Gadol and then reform the Zunist faith and establish the Church of the Zun with only one character.
I'm pretty sure i could have been the Zoroastrian Saoshyant as well.

>>389184281
Can't wait to play my game in 3 fps.
They should have just made a standalone spinoff like Sengoku or something. It's not like you are gonna be mixing with Europe a lot when playing a Chinese lord anyways. Hell just made a Crusader Kings: East Asia version.

>>389183195
Is this reddit?

>>389183195
>I'm a horse
this makes me lose my shit laughing

>>389184281
there won't be mainland china in the game, tho.

>>389180992
which 2 DLCs does /v/ recommend?

>>389184957
That's the new Chancellor.

>>389184652
So, how do you get that quest/event, just luck or does it have some perquisites I never accomplished? I mean 50 fucking hours you would expect to get it at least once.

I suppose I could just console the trait but it wouldn't be the same.

>>389182142
Is liquy 2 any good?

>>389184978
all of em except sunset invasion

>>389184817
>Can't wait to play my game in 3 fps
Don't have a shit PC or don't go fast. I personally play on speed one most of the time,
making one full playthrough last more than 200 hours, since I also pause every once in a while.

>>389184873
>so new he doesn't know reddit adopted this comic from here

>>389185093
not really. better than all the other ones, tho. especially with grandi mod

>>389184978
The Old Gods is pretty much mandatory as it unlocks half of the map to play.

>>389185072
>I mean 50 fucking hours you would expect to get it at least once
You must be new at this.

>>389185093
Seriously. Kinda makes me happy but what is the point in even having them?
I mean I'd love to play a game in China, I love the idea, but the game is unstable enough as it is so it's probably for the better.

>>389185109
But I'm a poorfag and I like playing on speed 3-4 and pausing a lot, at least when I'm playing singleplayer.

>>389184978
Most of them are good. Only really optional one is Sunset Invasion.

>when you've played hundreds of hours since the release and still haven't managed to trigger the merry men questline even once

stop complaining you didn't get to be immortal

>>389185452
>I like playing on speed 3-4
Well if you can't afford it then you can't afford it.

>>389183195
Unironically me. One of my favorite ever campaigns was as a muslim.

>It's a Pope calls a crusade on some random duchy in the middle of India episode
I'm tired of this one

>>389185367
Played it since release and got around 500 hours on it. Which obviously isn't a huge amount when it comes to Paradox games but still.

>>389185542
You have to have begative money to do so.

>>389185703
What? Are you playing with mods? Provinces in India have approximately zero crusade target weight in vanilla.

>518 hours played
>not one game completed

>>389185703
Never happens unless you blob into Persia or a horde converts.
Prove me wrong.

>>389185804
>Highway robber band
It adds up.

>India
god I hope the next xpac makes them interesting, because that region is boring as shit

could have just turned the center of india into wasteland and saved my poor processor

>>389185542
I once had three Robin's and Marion's in my court.
Still never got an immortality event though.

Well, time for another go, what should I play this time?
Thinking of maybe trying import it into EUIV later since I've never done it before.

>>389185995
just install no india mod, you mong. gosh, ck babies are so dumb.

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>>389185995
India isn't a religion

>>389186129
>just install a half-assed mod that breaks half the middle east events

and I wouldn't mind it if the region was more interesting, I actually like the horse lords extension because hordes are fun to play as

>>389185879
I can relate. I got close once, but I quite because it was my first succesful playthrough and when I got so mighty that I could defeat anyone it got boring. In fact I didn't even have to try, my vassals expanded my empire on their own. Now I can get a lot of fun out of roleplaying and setting arbitrary goals that hinder me from getting too powerful.

>>389186129
Are you the guy that was just posting on /v/?

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>>389186228
>hordes are fun to play as

>>389185879
The closest I've ever gotten to finishing a Paradox game was in Vicky 2 when I got to like 1930. before Italy conquered half my country and I raged quit.

>>389186187
He said REGION not religion.

>>389184273

>last full game I played
>769 start
>started as the duke of holland
>made the kingdom of Frisia after a couple of hundred years
>got the good old days achievement
>getting near to the end of the game
>immortal event triggers
>NPC is an Indian child
>actually complete the chain and become immortal
>fuck yeah
>immortal child sticks around
>she turns 16
>but her portrait stays as a child
>pick the seduction focus
>make her my mistress and spend the next 100 years fucking an immortal loli
>finish the game 7 centuries later

that was a good game

>>389180992
either war or if you in central europe assasinating rulers and fucking their wives for land.

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I'm planning on buying this game. Would I be able to hop right into the ASOIAF mod or should I play the base game first to understand it?

>>389186285
been playing a republican game where I limit my personal demesne to 1 county
it's actually pretty fun, even if said county is the most op city in the world right now

>>389186228
>ck2 plus
>half assed

>>389186290
this IS /v/

>>389186450
understand it first

>>389186321
>Not wanting to be Horselord, the the destroyer of civilization
>Not turning all of Europe into a nomadic land
>Not reveling in primitivism
That's how I know you're a scrub. Also 100% light cav armies are fucking strong.

>>389186321
if you RP as them they're fun
conquer half the world, let it fall to pieces, work your way back up

>>389186450
Play a game as a county in Ireland first to get to know the mechanics.

>>389185874
>>389185971
No mods, most of the DLC.
Jerusalem is held by Catholics and I've blobbed across Africa from Spain, but Persia is still all Muslim. Mongols have converted though, so apparently that has made rural India the next hot target.

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>>389186285
>get too big
>now I spend 80% of my time fighting rebellions and uprisings

I suck at managing my vassals. I pretty much always sit around my vassal limit to keep them from getting too powerful but they still manage to fuck me. They should have added more ways to break up factions.

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>>389185874
Try playing the game

>>389186112
Play as a count under the Sultan of Africa. Reconquer Sicily and Naples.
Thosw are your first goals.

>>389186734
>not intentionally making your vassals strong enough they can actually overthrow you if your heir sucks

>>389186519
That's just Venice being Venice though.
I'm playing a republican game with optimal min-maxing. I hold twelve counties, most of which have four or five sub-holdings. As many cities as possible, I'm the richest motherfucker on earth. I create a mercenary company so large and strong that no one other than me could possibly hire them. I never even hire them anyway because my retinue can handle most problems, and if there's a problem they can't then adding my levies sure will fix it. I have fully upgraded buildings hospitals in all counties and all I do is start proxy wars to get rid of my sons so I don't have to pay them wages for just existing. It's more entertaining that you'd think.

>>389187097
And instead spend all my time perpetually clawing my back up the food chain over and over again destroying my kingdom from within instead of trying to stabilize it?

>>389186734
Just be a diplomatic mastermind, or give in to their demands, if the demand is more council power or autonomy that is. As it's pretty expendable and can moderately easily be reinstated. If they aren't happy about you and want someone else on the throne, try to manage an elective monarchy instead.

>>389187163
>That's just Venice being Venice though.
yeh no, I'm not talking about Venice, I'm talking about the great city of Zara

the new demesne improvements mechanic is pretty nuts, it's now a 7 slot province with maximized cities in all 5 of them (all owned by me) and 6 generations worth of prosperity and heremetics improvements

I could hold more than that but that's the limit: 1 county only unless I'm doge in which case I get venice to
but yeh creating the mother of all merc stacks is fun, and so is crusading, but then I give the kingdom away to one of my nephews and ensure they're independent

>>389186857
Every time I do I smash the catholics :^)
In all honesty, as strange as it is, I've yet to do a catholic run, but I've tried most others.

>>389186427

>become immortal as a 50 year old man
>time goes by
>marry a woman and have 15 children
>they all die and im now 205 years old
>keeping doing important shit when I get a warning saying another immortal warrior has heard of a tale of a immortal king (me)
>its a female warrior and I'm given 2 years to get my personal combat skill up
>I'm a 50 year old man with a PCS of 1.
>2 years later the immortal female warrior attacks my castle
>kills all my courtiers and men
>confronts me and gives me a sword so I can defend myself in combat
>she kills me easily and chops my head off
>I die.

I was pissed but I was also laughing.

>>389187369
yup, that's how you keep the game interesting

>>389187583
>the new demesne improvements mechanic is pretty nuts, it's now a 7 slot province
Sounds like a mod to me. I play vanilla.

>>389187627

Hahah that's awesome, didn't know that could happen.

>>389187369
Better than mindless blobbing that you find in EUIV.

>>389187715
unmodded game, if your prosperity is at maximum you get all kinds of demesne improvement effects, one of them being the option to add another slot to the province

it costs a lot of money but patricians can afford it

>>389187163
Wait you can create your own mercenary armies? Neat. I've been meaning to do a republic game for ages but the uneventful early game makes me give up most of the time.

Is there a way to create The Hansa yourself and not just by starting a late date? I want to be the German jews.

>>389187469
I always do. Though I'm not playing with Conclave, fuck that shit.

>>389187686
Fair enough.

>>389187834
But sometimes all you want to do is some mindless blobbing.

>>389187839
Strange, all of my counties have level three properity, and have had for centuries and I've never noticed something like that. Is it an even't or is there some menu that I'm not aware of?

>>389187627
>didn't fuck the female warrior to get a immortal children

>>389187972
>Though I'm not playing with Conclave, fuck that shit
It's great though. It adds more levels to empire management, or do you actually not like doing it?

What's the best religion to blob?
I'm playing as a Catholic and Holy Wars are great, but they have a long ass cooldown.

>>389187972
>I've been meaning to do a republic game for ages but the uneventful early game makes me give up most of the time
Just start as a tribe and turn into a republic, that's what I did. And no there's no formable nation such as the Hansa.

>>389188160
nomads, though they're very unstable. Though if you want a religion probably muslims with jihads and conquest wars.

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>>389187972
>sometimes all you want to do is some mindless blobbing
Then play EUIV, it's a better game for that purpose. Or better yet, Hearts of Iron IV.
>mfw annexing all of the USA in one go, after a month and a half invasion

>>389188028
it's an event, more specifically its the "Reclaim land" event from rip_propserity_events.txt

baseline it's fairly hard to trigger but it gets massive boosts in probability from high stewardship, high learning, learning or stewardship education, intelligence trait (hereditary or educational), diligent or one of the occupation traits you'd expect (architect, gardener, administrator, scholar)

that playthrough I went with basically everyone in the heremetics society so I virtually always met those requirements

>>389188160
Just play as a heresy no one else has and you can holy war everyone.

>>389180992
CK2 babby here. Everything besides CK2 and Stellaris (haven't played Stellaris since it came out that's how shallow it is) is too complex for me I guess. I wish I could comprehend Hearts of Iron IV at the least.

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>>389186187
What a fucking cunt this panda is

>>389188613
HOIV is literally simpler than CK2

>>389188482
I don't do societies, so that might have something to do with it, because I have highstewardship and stewardship education every time, and have for generations had good intelligence traits.

>>389188134
To me Conclave sort of added too much tedious busywork. A lot of the DLC have been give and take, they add a lot of things to make stuff harder(but generally not unfair), but they also give just as many good things to offset it. With Conclave all the new mechanics just felt tedious too me and never benefited me. Though I only played it around the time it was released, maybe it's been patched or I would enjoy it more if I played it now.

>>389188262
Oh well, thanks. Guess I could do a custom one if I really felt like it.

>>389188416
True, but CK2 is more fun. Before all the DLC you could have both, now not so much. At least not to me since I'm a bit shit. Then again I guess it wouldn't be CK2 without the Kingdom crumbling from within.

How do I make Rome my vassal? My Chancellor's been there for years but I still don't have a strong claim.

>>389180992
Boring shit. Tried playing it once, was dumb as shit then some noble assassinated me

>>389188613
HOI4 makes Stellaris look deep.

>>389188757
heremetics got crazy after generation 4
after getting into the society and activating all the bonuses my characters frequently had stewardship and learning of 30+

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>>389188613
>It's too complex
>It's too shallow
>I'm too retarded to understand the very simple HoI4
This is bad post.

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>>389186450
Play as Poland to get into. Easiest playthrough
>Different pagans at the east so you can holy war them and they can't even assists each other
>Catholic bros on the west and south
>Large enough to easily conquer nearby lands
>Small enough to have fun from conquering.

>>389188949
Offer Vassalisation

>>389188757
>hear about Cocieties
>oh shit, dis gon be gud, Way of Life is my favorite DLC and this seems to be more of that
>there are fuck all societies for you to join, you can't even create custom ones to have some fun with
Thanks Parajew,.

>>389188949
Make a vassal the anti pope. He then gets a claim on Rome. Conquer Rome for him.

>>389189137
Taht image is formatter badly
Just like that sentence.

>>389188750
>>389188750
Can you explain how? CK2 plays itself. Hearts of Iron IV has a bunch of shit about logistics etc. I tried getting into it when it came out and gave up after a day.

>>389182990
This was the part of history when the HRE actually WAS an empire. You're thinking of the EU4 HRE.

>>389189107
Pretty much why I don't do it, it's too overpowered and very unbalanced. Even the non-magical societies.

>>389186427
>Couple of hundred years
>Not achieving this with the starting character

Git gud

>>389189354
You can play Hearts of Iron IV, or you can pretty much make the game play itself thanks to the "Frontlines" mechanic.

>>389186285
>2.7.1
>HIP's Imperial Decay mechanic is broken
>Decide to try a Seven Centuries ironman campaign
>Play as the King of Italy (as always)
>Conquer Bavaria, Sicily, and Germany (in that order)
>Build an Italian Empire
I don't regret it, but the later stages were just as boring as I was expecting it to be.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAQcYKPHjaQ
Reminder that the best the Elder Scrolls game is mod for Crusader Kings 2

>>389189451
It's why I limited myself to one county only, wanted to see how crazy things could get with just one holding

>>389189354
For reference, in my first ever game I managed to fucking everyone in the Allies and not once were my country in danger. If my strategies didn't work I literally just waited until they magically did, without really doing anything. That's how I beat France, Russian, the UK and USA. Send dudes to the front line, wait until they magically break through the lines.

>>389189674
That playable with the newest version of the game?

>>389189848
in my second game I managed to push all the way into Berlin
As Belgium

>>389180992
>Doing no-fap
>Play this game
>Get horny
>Fap
Fuck this game

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>>389190161
>check out the porn mods
>all are either ancient or fantasy shit

>>389190161
It's kind of odd, but Crusader Kings II has a history of making people horny and masturbate. I know why I like it, but it seems to play into a lot of different people's tastes actually.

>>389190263
This. It's fucking awful. Where are my childfucking mods? I need loli and /ss/.

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I like how even obscure religions at the time are playable. Like, the next patch is giving Manicheanism features, that's pretty cool.

I tried getting into CK2 before and couldn't. I found no trouble learning Total War/Stellaris though.

Besides being a faggot for the newbie nation (is it Leon or something?) what are some tips for a beginner trying to learn up the game?

>>389190504
Leon is not a newbie nation at all anymore
the muslims are way more powerful

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>>389189639
Starting as a king is boring. My favorite games have always been those where I started as a lowly count of some small province and slowly expanded outwards. Add some mods that make it a little bit less easy to mindlessly blob all over the map as well (I used to swear by CK2+, but it's been so long since I played it last), and you can have a truly enjoyable grand campaign.

>>389190504
Start as the earl of dublin in 1066

>>389181594
there is litterally a button to ban the jew out of your realm

>>389190504
>what are some tips for a beginner trying to learn up the game?
Try playing passively, exploring features as you go. Try taking someone prisoner, try messing around with the council, try messing with the pope (of you're a catholic). When you're somewhat comfortable you can try going to war. I recommend staying passive and just ally someone who'll no doubt drag you into the war, it'll get you a feel for things like soldiers, army composition and supply limit, if you remember to pay attention that is. You can also try to go to war yourself, but then you'll just wonder why all you can do is make someone your tributary, even if the next big patch will casualize that part.

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>>389190753
>It doesn't create a stable and happy realm where your people prospers, but instead incurs penalties
I mean sure, there's one negative event less, but it's a rare one and you'll likely experience more negative event because you did it. But the dosh from loan+expulsion is great.

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>>389190625
>make a custom character from the Hapsburg dynasty, start him out in Aargau in Switzerland(where the Hapsburgs got their name from) with my plan to get a hold of Austria and use it to launch my own custom Austrian Kingdom, and possible even Empire.
>on my second character, game is going well, Austria still eludes me but I've become a middle tier Duke and got a lot of land by blitzkrieging all the lower counts around me
>suddenly I inherit Germany and become king
>some semi distant relative somewhere that was married to the king in some astronomical odds became ruler and then died
>no more Austria, the dream is dead
Fucking Germany man.

>>389189976
The newest version is only compatible for 2.6.3

http://www.moddb.com/mods/elder-kings/downloads/elder-kings-020-self-installer

>>389191150
As a vassal count though it's in your best interest to immediately borrow 300 gold from the Jews to build up your demesne and change laws. The king will inevitably kick the Jews out sooner rather than later.

>>389190504
Don't be afraid to fail. Play it more like you are creating a story rather than trying to win a game. Some of my favorite games have been when my realm was decimated and I had to start from scratch.

Are these games good if you don't know jack shit about history? I guess this applies to their non CK games where you can't use a total conversion fantasy mod. Don't you have to aim within historical parameters in these?

>>389191702
It's more fun if you know about history sure, but it's also a decent way to start learning about history

nothing wrong with trying and seeing if you like it

>>389191702
I don't know shit about history and it's pretty fun.

>>389191702
You don't need to know shit. If anything you will learn something, though it will obviously not replace a book.

>>389191702
>Don't you have to aim within historical parameters in these
World conquest or even just a "lasting united Europe" isn't historical, but you can easily do it in many paradox games.
EUIV doesn't represent how easily realms fall apart, CKII does it better but has other shortcomings.

>>389191702
A basic understanding of feudal politics eases the learning curve.
You can still go wild with the things you're doing. Going ahistorical routes is the real meat of the game anyway.

Anyone else like elevating random lowborns you like and giving them titles and then follow their families history throughout the game? And utterly annihilating them if they ever go against your dynasty.

>>389191702
Sure, CK2 is how you learn about history. That said a lot of the fun in the game, at least for me comes from basically creating historical fan fiction and what-if scenarios. But CK2 have made me learn quite a bit Geography and medieval dynasties.

>be emperor
>invite some dude with a strong claim on a kingdom
>give him a county so he becomes my vassal and press his claim
>he becomes independent
>reload save
>give his a duchy this time and press his claim
>he stays my vassal
I'm still not quite sure how this works. Does this mean your vassal needs to have a landed title one rank lower than the one you're pressing for him to stay your vassal?

>>389192427
I once gave a lowborn a title, but he earned that
He was one of my commanders, 28 martial and great battle traits, under his command my army won the crusade despite being outnumbered 2 to 1

so I reasoned giving him a ducal title in the holy land was more than appropriate

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Yo wtf
Is this published by EA?

>>389192959
Paradox is notorious for it's dlc
my suggestion: buy the main game, pirate the DLC

>>389192959
>He doesn't know about Train Simulator

>>389188949
give you son a church.
mame him anti pope.
press his claim.
profit.

>>389192959
Nigger 90% of those are units and music aka not needed to play the game

>>389191702
After 1000 or so hours of CK2 I can safely tell you that you're going to come out of it as a /his/torical autistic no matter the level of knowledge you had before.

Sooner or later you'll start googling the name of the cities and regions you own in the game out of curiosity and before you know, you are well-versed in the history of 13th century Finland.

>>389180992

A ludicrous mess of disjointed features hidden beneath hundreds of dollars of paywall DLC as brought to you by a game that forgot it's original design direction as badly as TF2

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>>389194670
>a game that forgot it's original design direction as badly as TF2
explain

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kangs

>>389188160
Nomadic or Eastern Europe Slavs.

Slavs gets a double defense bonus in your own territory so you just bait the AI into attacking you for easy conquest, and no waiting for cassis belli. Raiding too for free gold.

>>389186450
Play the base game first. the AGoT mod is top notch but it adds tons of shit that will get you even more overwhelmed than the base game will.

Plus the base game is actually educational.

>>389188482
Every time I try hermetic society I get killed within a year, so I used it for shitty characters when I want to die quickly

>>389180992
holy wars
assassination
blackmail
cuckoldry

>>389188530
Jewish horse lords are great for this.

>>389196807
hermetics don't get you killed though, they're just philosophers and shit

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>>389180992

>>389197209
Yes I know. It's probably just coincidence though but I seriously get assassinated within a year every time I try it

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>>389197302

>playing Castile
>remove kebab
>almost finish removing kebab from Hispania
>France becomes Muslim
shit

How viable is the new religious cult mechanic? Could be neat to try to orchestrate a Miaphysite, Nestorian or Zoroastrian uprising in the Middle-East.

>>389198327
Used to be ridiculously OP to the point that Kingdoms changed their religion every 20 years.
However, it has been nerfed so hard after the last patch that it is now basically useless.
It feels lackluster anyway.